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Google AlphaEvolve - Discovering new science (exclusive interview)

2025/5/14
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在计算机科学领域,矩阵乘法是一个基础问题,其优化具有重要意义。Alpha Evolve通过结合大型语言模型和进化算法,在矩阵乘法算法的发现上取得了突破,打破了56年的记录。这一成果展示了人工智能在科学发现中的潜力,并为实际应用带来了效率提升。 我感到非常兴奋的是,Alpha Evolve找到了一种使用48次乘法而不是49次的更快算法。这个发现证明了人工智能在解决复杂数学问题上的强大能力,也为未来的算法优化提供了新的方向。我们团队对这一结果进行了多次验证,确保其正确性,这进一步增强了我们对人工智能在科学探索中作用的信心。 Alpha Evolve的成功不仅在于算法的发现,更在于其在实际应用中的价值。通过优化Google数据中心的计算任务调度,Alpha Evolve能够持续恢复大量的计算资源,为Google节省了巨大的成本。此外,它还能够加速Gemini模型的训练,进一步提升了AI系统的性能。这些应用案例充分展示了Alpha Evolve在解决实际问题上的潜力。

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Today GoogleDeepMind released AlphaEvolve: a Gemini coding agent for algorithm discovery. It beat the famous Strassen algorithm for matrix multiplication set 56 years ago. Google has been killing it recently. We had early access to the paper and interviewed the researchers behind the work.

AlphaEvolve: A Gemini-powered coding agent for designing advanced algorithms

https://deepmind.google/discover/blog/alphaevolve-a-gemini-powered-coding-agent-for-designing-advanced-algorithms/

Authors: Alexander Novikov*, Ngân Vũ*, Marvin Eisenberger*, Emilien Dupont*, Po-Sen Huang*, Adam Zsolt Wagner*, Sergey Shirobokov*, Borislav Kozlovskii*, Francisco J. R. Ruiz, Abbas Mehrabian, M. Pawan Kumar, Abigail See, Swarat Chaudhuri, George Holland, Alex Davies, Sebastian Nowozin, Pushmeet Kohli, Matej Balog*

(* indicates equal contribution or special designation, if defined elsewhere)

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AlphaEvolve works like a very smart, tireless programmer. It uses powerful AI language models (like Gemini) to generate ideas for computer code. Then, it uses an "evolutionary" process – like survival of the fittest for programs. It tries out many different program ideas, automatically tests how well they solve a problem, and then uses the best ones to inspire new, even better programs.

Beyond this mathematical breakthrough, AlphaEvolve has already been used to improve real-world systems at Google, such as making their massive data centers run more efficiently and even speeding up the training of the AI models that power AlphaEvolve itself. The discussion also covers how humans work with AlphaEvolve, the challenges of making AI discover things, and the exciting future of AI helping scientists make new discoveries.

In short, AlphaEvolve is a powerful new AI tool that can invent new algorithms and solve complex problems, showing how AI can be a creative partner in science and engineering.

Guests:

Matej Balog: https://x.com/matejbalog

Alexander Novikov: https://x.com/SashaVNovikov

REFS:

MAP Elites [Jean-Baptiste Mouret, Jeff Clune]

https://arxiv.org/abs/1504.04909

FunSearch [Bernardino Romera-Paredes, Mohammadamin Barekatain, Alexander Novikov, Matej Balog, M. Pawan Kumar, Emilien Dupont, Francisco J. R. Ruiz, Jordan S. Ellenberg, Pengming Wang, Omar Fawzi, Pushmeet Kohli & Alhussein Fawzi]

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-023-06924-6

TOC:

[00:00:00] Introduction: Alpha Evolve's Breakthroughs, DeepMind's Lineage, and Real-World Impact

[00:12:06] Introducing AlphaEvolve: Concept, Evolutionary Algorithms, and Architecture

[00:16:56] Search Challenges: The Halting Problem and Enabling Creative Leaps

[00:23:20] Knowledge Augmentation: Self-Generated Data, Meta-Prompting, and Library Learning

[00:29:08] Matrix Multiplication Breakthrough: From Strassen to AlphaEvolve's 48 Multiplications

[00:39:11] Problem Representation: Direct Solutions, Constructors, and Search Algorithms

[00:46:06] Developer Reflections: Surprising Outcomes and Superiority over Simple LLM Sampling

[00:51:42] Algorithmic Improvement: Hill Climbing, Program Synthesis, and Intelligibility

[01:00:24] Real-World Application: Complex Evaluations and Robotics

[01:05:39] Role of LLMs & Future: Advanced Models, Recursive Self-Improvement, and Human-AI Collaboration

[01:11:22] Resource Considerations: Compute Costs of AlphaEvolve

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