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565: The Scent of Humane

2025/5/26
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Jason Snell
美国技术记者、编辑和播客主持人，专注于苹果产品和流行文化。
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Johnny Ive
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Myke Hurley
英国专业播客，Relay FM和Cortex Brand的联合创始人。
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Sam Altman
领导 OpenAI 实现 AGI 和超智能，重新定义 AI 发展路径，并推动 AI 技术的商业化和应用。
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Myke Hurley: 特朗普总统威胁要对苹果公司征收25%的关税，除非他们将iPhone的生产线搬回美国。这似乎是对苹果公司CEO Tim Cook的一种报复，因为他没有参加总统的中东之行。如果这个关税真的实施，iPhone的价格将会上涨。苹果公司似乎陷入了一个困境，他们需要找到一种方法来应对特朗普政府的压力。 Jason Snell: 在美国生产iPhone是不现实的，因为成本太高，甚至超过了25%的关税。Tim Cook需要向特朗普总统解释清楚这一点，并提出一些替代方案，比如增加在美国的投资，或者采取一些象征性的措施来满足总统的要求。关键是要让特朗普政府退让，或者找到一种方法来让他觉得他赢了。现在的情况是，有人在向特朗普总统传递与Tim Cook不同的信息，这使得情况更加复杂。

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Myke and Jason debate the merits of Jony Ive and Sam Altman's big announcement and what it means for Apple, Tariffs continue to threaten iPhone sales, and Apple may have committed to smart glasses after all.

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