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IT was like a movie as asking. He was like due to decide on what was facebook post going around them announcing the news. Like the last rio, I was the most popular choice for the mog.

And people wonder why we want exactly dead. We don't want to enter starting ah really hard to get off. No one is about the law. No one is above the law.

Nobody is above the law. So burden announce sunday that he would be part of his son hunter by and would you be part of your son?

My son would never agree.

not my son.

not my house.

What's up, guys? Welcome back to the pod. We're all in we're all in person today. For the first time ever, we're in miami for our because according what I don't know, never going to see each other.

So we gather one together and I was like, fuck that, let's do any person thing. So here we are. Um we've got these great hats on.

Thank you. Kd in the office or set us up, I think tasks definitely great. Great turkey.

Um yeah that's great. Um cool. So I guess I don't know.

I feel like weird, just like giving into IT. I don't want to get a business. I'm really like like this is new for me.

I want to do my hands.

yes. Um let's get into the show. I think there's no way we have a couple of huge topic, obviously, Polly, markets coming up. We're going to talk um uh in the polar market segment a bit about the pardon, obviously have to talk about the partners we want of a big stories today. But IT just crazy news this week that I think we have to start with is the assassination of brian tops in the C E O of insurance giant um uh united health care, which was crazy, which we all watched happen on the internet here about the first, but within a couple of hours that to started going viral IT was a straight up IT was like a movie assassination IT was like due with the simple things like shot him he turned around multiple times spent off you had a you had what is right the a for his last name to like, uh, who did the city bike tracking um .

I think that what first name was rarely .

wasn't yeah was rarely so we can both tweet unclear factually the city, but was down involved. But this seems good. So you've see a lot of, I mean, immediately you have twitter people trying to cracked this case.

I did do a banging of jokes. There's someone out there, the city bike. We found someone was around and immediately dog piled by the communists, who came out, obviously in favor of association talk pause on conviction. Al w um IT was IT was crazy to watch people reaching immediately for a take on this.

You could see that I saw people say, oh, this is I been talking immediately when the news breaks and people are saying this is about crime in new york city and this is about, um I forget with the other one, there was another really stupid one before we got to the sort of lethal gloating and I just like, this is people this is so big we just witness something to actually watch IT was I think you were laugh with this really this feeling of of importance associated with this thing was a really grisly killing in broad daylight of a major executive um who know one ever knew about until now so he wasn't even like h we knew he had to coming or something in it's like he's in the violent game of whatever it's just a rent. It's like a random executive and um IT was for me just that was enough that was shocking and I didn't actually I felt the impulse too I think to have a take but I just SAT with IT and and serve walked away for me because i'm an adult. Many people did not do that and had to say a bit of stuff and I think ultimately really didn't add into the conversation what what I saw and what I felt before the end of the night and then it's change this morning was just, um so this is this is a real thing.

I think we talk about stuff, this bullshit so often, doesn't the matter so often that we try associate that with important moments like this. But this one really mattered. This is like the trump s. assassination. That one was even more of the attempt that was, you know, more serious and more, I think, visually horrifying even even though he didn't die there was something about just we didn't know that person and um think about what we've happened to the country at that point in whatever but this was one of these these rare moments you're taken out of the bullshit and remember that the country is maybe the world is just sort of still a pretty violent place and pretty crazy he can go on what was your immediate first reaction to the um to the .

um the hit for me I be york mediately you want to go to the new york's like narrow and I was I think that time monday I saw that seemed like that we knew as target already but like immediately this city's atic control is law as describe everywhere a CEO being shot and kill and so IT is one of time to remember like to just fuck and shut the hell up first second, because he was to get react by saying a lot of things so you can so they make a lot things about crime. I think I think you really say, well, in the daily is like badge just happened. Sometimes like, sometimes really can't like put and I will find more about like, what the hell all the back and of all this was like maybe thought the first might be like, I actually like .

hit but or now .

I .

like course my hordle father day was like, that's kind of sick just like, okay, I remember this movie shit too much as I may come from jersey but um I I actually thought I was within like I forget what bring up like what he wrote on the bullets so IT seems like he might just be like one crazed guys just like chinese Anthony people somewhere to the one who want the president but I mean.

he was like, deny.

deny, defend the pose, right? So this a, this is actually, this was a book about insurance companies called delay, deny, defend. And the subtitle of the book is why insurance companies don't pay claims.

And what you can do about IT. So GTA be sorry that it's gotto be like the sky has had a really bad experience with united health care, and he's crazy. Any any, you know, trains to do this.

kill them. I mean, but that's one of things that IT is like a random act and this isn't a lawful your city is like anyone can kind of do that anytime and just walk the silos t like the is like that.

That's why my big worry out of this is that like this going to lead like copy because everything about the story from, like the messages written on the bullet things from the glee that we're going to get into on the internet of like this guy is doing hero's work close. There is also a possible photo leaking of this guy words like kind of good looking to everything about IT, in my opinion, is just like laying the frame for copy cat offenders to just follow his lead and be like this. Is that thing we just do to see you now?

I mean, is IT not, in a sense, itself a copy cat? This is, we just saw one of the highest profiling profile, attempted assassin, the history of the country. We all watched IT. That was, you know, I think we forget how import that is and how huge that is and how dramatic that can change the way a person thinks about anything. And I and I I, you feel like their linked.

I think that we are living in this very violent world actually, and this very violent moment actually, which was kind of, I mean, at some point you have to just believe people when they tell you should that they believe um and what we saw has not just been a few crazy on the internet saying their glad this person was killed because and I think the argument goes something like this um the health care industry is terrible and um therefore people who are working with health care industry are bad and it's good when bad people die I think roughly is the thinking here on among, you know, I want to say just like a drage segment of the online left. But IT was like a huge, huge, huge population of people we looked at. So you see this facebook posts going around that were announcing the news.

IT was like the left crime. Mog was the most um popular choice for the M O G. Uh there are endless tweet that we can throw up here um that you know tens of thousands of likes on them giving timely, probably one of the eyes st profile and this is this is a mix of of, I would say you're crazy online communists like actuals of hammer and sick in biocomposites and and just very hard core left wing writers who are defending IT.

And of course, the higher profile one was none other than miss information herself. Tell the rents. So this is a tRicky one because there are A A tailor post in this. I I really didn't want to actually, I don't want to talk about Taylor SHE is an artist and um I think a lot of what he does, he should be respected in that way.

Like you don't pick IT apart and debate IT you you put IT, you put IT in the oma and and you let IT just faster and you put like a little, you put a little little what is IT like a valvo around IT and you charge people to look at IT. And that's how you treat art. But this felt not like that.

This was the man died SHE post a picture of a another C E. O of another health care company 不是 was blue ross blue shield and and in a separate post all on blue guys。 Funny how SHE another thing is creative out is that he chooses the content that like SHE, puts her content on the right platform.

And this content was only on blue sky, and this is where I belonging. So SHE has this woman's face. It's like basically a target. This is a while this guy was killed. Now post another person on top of the story uh that looks very bad for a blue cross blue shield about anesthesia um revoking payments on anesthetic or something uh uh IT IT was very obvious to me that the implication there was go Better but he was not a smoking gun until you looked at your feet and you saw her also things a post before um and people wonder why we want these executives dead. So what follows is just the coffee of discourse around whether or not this is okay.

And and I would say it's discourse and not just there wasn't just cause that there was column nation you among my friends there was confirmation among you know my follower list IT was like old. She's crazy. This is awful.

Um I have questions about the information which is giving her money, and we can talk about that in the second. But all over blue sky and all over threats, people were like based choose correct and and he went on on about this every time I came up. SHE helped over twitter and SHE further.

Judge SHE was like, I didn't say that SHE father justified. IT was very clear in the context of Oliver posts that he really didn't think this person a deserve to die, that other people like him deserve to die. And I would say, just like I would add on top of this, not just the healthy care piece, the way that SHE started the entire thing was, uh, this is how I found the news out.

And IT was a picture of a mean SHE got in a group shot that was this like smiling star that said, CEO down. IT didn't talk about health care. IT said, CEO down.

And this is again, like this is this is not she's not picking this out of nothing. This this is the kind of conversation that's really popular online among what we call like the dirt bag left. Uh, these are people who are actual open marxists and talk about killing ceos and business professionals all the time. And it's class warfare.

And if you go after them for this and say, you know this is horrible, how I could you say this is, well, you're a boot liquor or a well, I would be a boot liquor probably and then someone who um you know wasn't run a business themselves would be called a class trader and and they love IT and like a little bit arpi and uh and arrange just like they really believe that, do they not? And I wonder why people asked that question, because this has happened for over a century now. They believe IT like these people are real.

They uh are called communist st. This language is the exact language they use. This is no longer like the the luny to um you know social uh left.

This is the economic populist left. They are the real deal. They go into a country, they proliferate, they take IT over and they do a lot of mass murder. And this is the language they use. Uh and this is what this whole stories about in my opinion is is that actually what's happening here is not about heth care, it's about communism and um and communism is proferred on these left wing channels and people like Taylor who are desperate for some kind of cultural thing to plant a flag into, has down the accent circle ground which is the hammer and ickle crowd which is fucked .

in and wild is there not just like a beautiful irony of her saying, like anyone who row dogs, the air is killing all .

people omenn I could defend that all that was the the Taylor ends are that .

was beautiful but doing that and then also like posting like boundings basically for old people like is are not just like a terrible irony and that I don't know well because um because he was a health yeah because he is like posting the .

the faces of health are C E O to like target next and like ony .

is right before he was SHE posted the woman's face when he wanted .

again and let's be very clear like the you post that woman's face because you want her to be killed yes that's what Taylor or is doing SHE is posting this woman's face and SHE is saying implicity this woman be killed SHE is since I should add ah SHE added a post underneath that that you should write her a polite you should write this woman tons of polite letters this is after it's like you can't write that after we just saw you say that the reason that you said the words the reason we want them dead but you said IT you just want to set IT we.

Have a screen shots I saw. There are nothing screen shots. It's still up at the time of our recording. It's still posted. SHE started delivering IT like SHE just believes that is where that he didn't.

I don't know why SHE lies about the fact, but but the crazy thing is right before SHE posted that woman space where he wanted again to die, um SHE had a thing about these rights ing journalists who are aren't taking seriously the treatment of women like herself on my internet. These these dedicated harassment campaign, and of course she's talking about stuff like this, are talking about the actual like terrorist things that SHE saying. That's the harassment that he is. Just truly, this is like, this is the mind of a and is .

fascinating IT is I refine the information .

and you should create IT we should create .

like a ten episode netlik s it's that kind .

of like a comedy to exactly are you out there because if you're out there with the script.

i'm a .

screen .

rider. I I was way Better fiction than I then yeah i'm i'm down to write this information and just be hard to like .

you done the fact. So because we need to find things out like her actual age and things .

like the SHE said that .

she's now she's trolling the troll this is the trouble .

that I have with this story is that like, you know most of what you are and means that terrible things about me, and, you know, she's tried to mean years ago, he went after people who followed me and went in their in their dms to tell them that I was a bad person. This is crazy years ago, like SHE, really.

But then I mostly avoided, I would say, like I never really got in her cross hairs after that until recently and I was like too funny because I have a way bigger platform on x now and we have fired wires and the company not intimated by people like that more um but it's still nonetheless funny to me for the most part, like most of what he does. And I even sometimes wonder you like not trying to have fun with IT SHE jokes about her own age. SHE does have law.

I think that's fascinating. Like like I all that stuff is interesting to me. This one was not interesting.

This one is like, this is a problem for me and not region because she's a crazy person saying these things. I probably would have ignored this actually um if I was just her. The problem is that the information just ran a piece of hers and gave her money.

The information is like, you know, one of the top business journals in the entire country. This is where business reporting happens. We expect this, this institution, to be giving us unbiased information about the state of the technology industry.

This woman, a technology journalist at one point, or SHE, changes her idle, like constant. So who knows what he thinks he is today? I don't know.

Ask her. I have no idea. I think she's a performance artist.

But like, what does SHE call herself? I don't know. It's part of her art. I'll leave IT to hurt. The problem for that I have is that I know like the information legitimate and makes her like a legitimate voice again. And and the fact they would hire her back to me calls into question everything that they do.

That's like, how can I as someone in the tech industry and someone running a company, I am the CEO of this company, trust anything that you're writing about ceos like you are paying the person who is laughing about ceos being literally gone down the street. That's crazy. That is like a whole other fucked in level and and it's not really about Taylor.

It's about for me the interesting piece of this is the way that she's treated by institutions as legitimate um the way that she's protected by them, the way that she's celebrated by them that is the tell into who they are, into who the institutions are and that is my interest in the story i've been accused this morning of cancer culture for the we're talking about this but alex, something rather I forget his name he was the journalists to matter many years ago not as much as any more but he still has he's got a great handle. It's just at alex so respect to him for getting in early but is like a hundred thousand followers or something but is just like all the return of cancer culture whatever when I raised this is a problem. This is not the same thing as a journalist getting fired because he an off color joke that a woman happened to hear at a tech conference.

Okay, this is the question is like. Why do our tions literally want us to die? And i'm not even saying that this woman should be fired or not hired after saying that matters like this is an important part of the way that we think about an institution like the information is that they are working with people like this that that is meaningful.

And we do need to talk about IT we concern to about that company. But still made a little bit and she's been elsa at near times washing post. There's not the outlets for her. So SHE seems like she's on next time her last stand and and he started like mainstream media sa cosign yes, he was.

I wouldn't have talked about IT until the information thing. I think I would have been a big deal about IT, but that's that's a huge deal. I mean, I would say also funny though on that no, yeah, she's you know run out of the york times, run out of the washington post seems actually even more significant to me because what i've heard from the inside is one of the real issues with Taylor.

The washington post was the way that he would talk about subjects that had nothing to do with her core cop and see which what the fuck is that supposed to be? Don't know. But what is certainly is not is, uh, israel, uh, in palestine. And so journals .

working on other .

subjects become frustrated by her talking about their ship, because IT um IT influence their own work. Obviously, if you have the every time teller says anything at the washroom post that would be framed as tell of the ends of the washington post says this, or just the washington post says this and then if you're like a journalist covering this stuff that's razing you don't you don't want that. But yeah, run out of wash post. I think that that that one feels more like a forcing out to me yeah leaning into sub stack, which is funny because she's going after them for years that is old and he has laugh.

He has to sort of stand on their own view, which I thought she's be great up personally, I thought that would build up a bunch of SHE didn't SHE starts struggling starts SHE is strugling in the message her like sort of whining messages on the subject saying, like if you care about journalism, you have to pay for this quality, whatever blob a blog that I do, tiktok report people are not paying her SHE struggles for like a month and immediately becomes a full fledge communist st. That's interesting. I think that need to be a part of the .

story here. It's like the last game in town in the sense. Like, is IT like chest SHE actually believe, or has the gone too AR a the right side like that? The large is go so far, you just stuck in like the fuck in the the train, like the water spirit.

like so I think the p is extensive for sure. And a lot of what he says, I think is fake, just like a lot of what these letter and general says you fake. But on the question of economics and economics populum and eating, the original of this, this is a, this is a space for losers. This is a space for, like to form breaks of society who can make money, like they always find communism. They have always .

found the personal people I know who who supporters the most are like the the debats, like the the ones you can, like fell, the ones where, like way too left in. Like that is like there's still living with, like four remains and at the age of thirty eight, and like all the way up in that style like OK and like look, good luck with that.

There's planning of money around for for tailor. I mean the C C, D, H.

who her her fans don't believe in capitalism, was going to pay for her.

I think tailor is going to be around forever. I think she's gonna get really rich. I think SHE could be a really great politician.

I see that might be the next timer that SHE just sees a goal for. You could do really well .

in the on profit sector.

That's sure. How do you have the stomach .

for the now?

Profit is perfect.

Nonprofits thrive on Operating in the shadows and exerting lots of power, pretending they have none. Taylor is a champion of the arena. Like he wants glory.

He wants to be in there. He wants to be crying and laughing and like celebrated applause around her that's not not profit. That's what she's doing .

which is the point from he is all he is all over twitter. He's like really big that's .

a lawyer for the the isom and case for the this record yeah may be but I think that that ah I don't know know that I think I think is .

not Lawrence this last time. She's not gna go out quietly. That does I think a palmer said about her about being like she's like a like .

a geo dest journal .

oh yeah journal. She's generous because she's willing to suicide herself SHE reference anything it's not behind the pale .

to have these questions about um about our institutions and SHE IT doesn't is end because she's now at a feeling substate. So if you're giving her money and just lesson just did, that is a huge deal to me as someone who is again a CEO and doesn't love the idea of the Normalization of CEO being murdered in the discourse as as a funny thing that and it's like not a lot to ask of someone my Taylor is is is so of careers .

like the social media trendy girl so SHE gives habit to be like in the in the fears of tik talkers and whoever like the the famous person day is so her opinions tend to reflect that so i've talked to you that like so then I know easy with elder millennial s what he is, one what I am to they keep trying to act like twenty old when they're like forty year old and so like what I see who write things like this, when I see other like left these that I know on the personal side who like right mesters like this like sir man, you are thirty nine years old, stop posting like your nineteen yeah like you shouldn't be thinking like a left is like that at your age.

You're going to give you up for millennia though again, myself included, to look great elephant as look like, yeah, they're acting Young, but they're looking Young too. Yes, like those twitter fresh.

But but, but, but that's what the work of that I can so hard .

to say that I think I don't think he looks forward. I think he looks great. I just I think like I think I looks like is actually Young Better I I think but that's what the large goes because you have to constantly .

keep acting Young. You're constant to keep going and more extreme circles to sort to keep fitting in with these nineteen rules.

Yeah, that's just the edit two. We're all in the stew together. And what do you do? How do you how do you in a digital space where you're kind of free of the physical body in the science of age, you want to you, you can laugh. And so you do.

And then is the lip is IT really even fake? I mean what is really fake and touches who SHE isn't her mind works are whatever how how I am, how like it's is IT fake it's I don't know, I don't know there's like this increasing separation between the physical and um in the mental because of the internet. And that maybe what we're seeing here, the first pieces of that, it's a good .

shape shifting, which again would be perfect for politics. And I like that theory.

I think that wired would hire Taylor. I can definitely serve landing a spot wired well, we make them much more relevant, which is, yeah, that would be a get for wired piller wood.

Well, yes, he has look into IT. Give me another, give me another reason to write about because as IT stands.

I don't know this is currently blocked.

had a reason yeah he locked me to yeah SHE SHE attacked by her wars, unprovoked. And I was like.

let's go. Yeah, i'm are you joking?

Like people think I don't. I was talking to someone yesterday this morning who was really anxious about being dog piled by communist online. IT said something about the shooting and people attacking him in the how to deal with all his death rats.

And I was like, I love this. Should you you grow to love you? I love you. Yeah yeah. But that's what they don't understand. It's like they and maybe I think most of them do they don't come back to me anymore, right? I I think it's like at a certain point, they realize what tweet me or something. And I I would clearly enjoy IT and I just took the IT took the I don't know they want to be hurt, they want to kick you down.

They took IT out for them yeah so yeah he will have a party wise we obviously 疗 struck back with mighty blow yeah um and then um there's a piece you can check out actually we can maybe like google screen shot of that piece right now take yeah we updated today the history of Taylor and his lies and then and then SHE commented on some of the stuff that we were saying。 He had unblocking to do that. So SHE unblocked me.

SHE commented in back right what he said, this is fan behavior.

Do you yeah .

for the job to.

what will I ever do you so terrible. Don't tell people that SHE .

post on twitter and her instagram stories that those as well. So SHE SHE had SHE twenty .

four hours with. Yes, he was when he, when I sees you, it's like SHE enters a few state SHE does so it's like IT was funny for her to say I was baby. I mean, SHE posted, I think, six or seven to one a against me like SHE SHE goes, goes and goes and goes.

SHE blacks out. Yes, I think he also enjoy that. This is, listen, we have a lot in common.

I would never celebrate the public execution of A C. E. O. But I know I see where he is. I I think I choose some muse of mind, let's say but but yeah that you blocked me and that was the end of that I would say sea from tailor.

Um but on the issue of the killing in the discourse, which you mentioned the Normalization really a mm ago, because I think is very stute and very correct. And actually the danger that we're facing now I hand not one but a handful of C E S, uh in tack, reach out to me about this issue. And they were not scared, but they want to talk about this.

They want to talk about um IT IT was like world's getting more violent. Language is getting much more course. You have platforms now that seem to be celebrating language like this and now you have a high profile uh public public execution of um.

Of A C E, O, uh, that is being defended on classroom ounds. And people are worried about copycats. People are worried about more of these. And I don't really have anything great to say in response. I think like for sure there will be more attempts.

The trend .

yeah yeah .

same thing happened when that submarine blew up yeah .

when they they are .

looking at the titanic. I was always the have .

a tweet says one of the .

dip shit billionaire on that stupid submarine is rich from running a private jet company. He's literally cooking the planet alive, and we meant to feel bad. His stupid head has been squashed by the righteous pressure of the ocean.

Nomen R A P. Bozo, not on soon enough as fifteen. No, one hundred likes hundred and six thousand views.

Yeah, a immersive one is it's not as bad.

It's not as bad as celebrating and assassination. I think it's .

so it's like mixed for I I went back in four things. I don't know which one is worse. They're obviously very similar and they're tapping into the same blood loss that you see. The it's like an excuse, blood loss that you see on the left, like the right has crazy. Yes, the left has crazy that work IT.

Like there's a columbia, a professor that was saying something similar to you have a writer for the information or something saying something like this like like that's what the left house it's like. That's what what is the difference here is the in the institution al support for crazy like this? But I don't know which one is worse.

I think that with the submersible you had to butch of people who are kind of they seemed more clues and innocent. And there was a kid on board. And so IT was like, very sad in this other way of the kid. This was one like, they had to really reach. They were happy to reach, but they had to reach for the class action here, which very clearly a class or very issue and was he was killed because of his job in health care, which was seen as um exploitation of our people.

Yeah, you see you see way more justification of the dried tweet, the assassination, then you do, then you did the the titanic like i've seen. I didn't really see a lot of people following up the strange titanics tweet being like, oh no, actually this this crazy drage take is justified. But with the assiniboin have like whole you tomes being written about how .

it's OK for us to to celebrate the murder insurance because everyone can haves like.

yes, that's how they fine IT.

Yeah I don't know anything .

about i'm sure everybody is just expert right away. I think it's .

just also crazy though for for a right are specific. I mean, there orange if you had to pull americans on how they feel about journalists with journalists pull higher than healthcare executives, I don't know, because they would. And so I think it's a very dangerous game to play yes, of um you know who deserves to die and who doesn't yeah yeah I think it's just we don't want to enter this dark time. Dark is really dark to get off of IT because this kind of stuff bills and becomes run away like you see the medics of school shootings, for example, which happened so many years ago, is I feel like column is the one that really triggered IT column happens and you have no decades of copycats. IT does not go away.

IT keeps happening every time there's one obviously because there's so much a motion behind IT and so many stories about IT and your faces plaster all over the news and um IT just that attracts more crazy people and IT happens again and again and again and this was my fear with a dollar drop attempt and and what I hoped was that um I hoped that by his I am surviving and the ah the assets being so just like quickly and modifying killed that he looked really pathetic up there. H A shot destroyed. I hoped that the imaging of that would shatter the metics of the assassination.

And we wouldn't see anymore again of politicians because our country was fought enough like the idea of entering a new loop, like we had him at what, sixties and seventies of, like, high profile political asset like that just seems crazy. It's true darkness. You do not want to be there. And I don't know if I did. And this this is like, this is very much in that like dark spirituals .

do not to get more depressing. But I I do, I do think that the early sixties and seventies, like the crazy college White people who said that they were going, that they were like on the side of all the oppressive people all over the world, they did eventually they were lapping at first, as my read of history, but they dead, end up blowing people, you know, making bombs and then blowing up buildings with people in them. So we could get IT .

could get worse in asco. Ation have in the streets. IT reminds you and we reminds left, like what nine eleven? You just realize how easy just to kind of do this things like what is easy to get a walk and in the year and forget like we live in another year, cities like it's not that hard to like do so make really bad shit pretty usually .

and it's like a got the super lining about humanity, easy to do things and that almost never happens. Almost everybody finds them important, which is why we all lose our minds when we see people saying that it's not a point.

It's what we wrote about a or would I rote about for pirates res your help um back during uh what is the the terrorist attack in israel that triggered um a piece of mine called moral inversion and um this is the idea that you when truly horrific things um are not only excuse but celebrated that's really disorientating for the average person who's not evil. And that is what we've been experiencing, not just in in that case, but for years. And there are all sorts of check in the case in the like broke every single one of the big popular ones over the last few years down. This is that now you know we're back inside of that and and that's what I experience when I see this is like this really powerful revulsion to the inversion of morality and um and then I guess just an anxiety, a low level xiety that it's it's not the end of something, but the beginning of a new kind of class warfare.

Someone sitting next to a billionaire really hope not, especially sharing an office with a you.

you, you, you are all working with what is what would they call you? They will call you like, i'll certainly class traders.

Oh, am a big time trader. I saw myself.

But I mean, there is like, you know, like my parents. But that was an construction and teaching. He would sort of go back and he did a teaching and construction and teaching and construction depending on um there are a few years of time in the eighties and nineties where IT was a lot of money be made doing to drive and IT dried up. And so we were back in the teaching.

My mom was a teacher and became a school ministry or but like he had much money when I was Young um and more than my older siblings but still IT wasn't like we were not I am not like I am not of the uh elite ite class I don't even know that I didn't know how rich people were even until I went to school b was the first place where I was like wow like there are other degree levels of rich that I do not realize existed genuine um and there are a lot of them like a lot of people, way more people than I thought. I thought everyone roughly live the way that I did class, school, whatever. Then I went to send for cisco and I met an entire other level of wealth after a boss university from all of these samper kids were going to ever league schools who had, like, real wealth and hour.

And i'm not a part of that or I wasn't, but I am. Now that's the american dream. Let me go.

We're all going to give us. We're going to get you going to move down people on the streets. You just got ta fuck and do a job well.

makes the money tail be more .

interesting and sell some self here. How about you? You don't have to do communism.

We were reading for you. I was. I was really reading for you. Chosen one. Believe what the problem is. No one shows you though that's the thing that's that's what she's freaking out about. SHE was not chosen.

SHE was not SHE was not given those substate dollars and now she's you know supporting mass murder basically inevitably just give her a week um anything else on the on the assassination of temperature a lot more hopefully. I mean, we're going to probably learn lot more uh, over the next day like I think that now we see this picture, I think it's only a matter of time, probably before the before the N. Y, P, D.

Catches this guy. You are saying this like people think. So what you're saying .

about all people think the .

pd posted a picture for recording catch criminals. That is the truth. People think they are. The yp sucks at this because in our city is he looks like the third world, this topia. But um when horrible things happened, a track heads together, for example, when they may see thankful ving day parade was interrupted briefly by those process as people shut down the fuck out, shut down.

not even remotely hit that broadcast feed.

But no one like this show new you x no way. They're like, you're interrupt 皮卡丘。 No, no, you're not not today. See, they clean them, right?

Excuse me. Romi donal this up. yeah. I want to see .

what he was right of Donald, right front of them. And they were just like the fucking out here, get out, everyone you ask. And they're probably that I bet there in gel right now know that .

our sacred tradition.

which was the hundred IT, was the hundred and was that one hundred or was ninety eight, I think was IT was one. So we're going .

to see the hundred subsequent direction. I love, I love the parade. Yeah, love. sick. Just balloons in the air and walk on the streets.

sick. yeah. So nice to let us do IT. IT feels like one of these beautiful things that surely there's like an environmental reason or something that people can use to rule in this for us. And they haven't done IT yet.

and i'm thankful for that. Be honest. Private for for the tour because I like parade.

Locals are there too, though that was I sofa vor flamed there this .

year .

yeah you know the yes.

but you have, you live around.

I live here. I don't want to dress.

I was.

But yes, I do. I do the pretty close .

to the party. Alright, we get to a lot of the pardon, really.

Let's do IT about .

speaking of crimes, speaking of criminals. Tell us about the tell tell us about .

joe biden's accident. Man, yes. So biden announce sunday that he would be parking his son hunter bite in um the guy with a history of activity too graphic for this family friendly podcast. We will knock IT into IT um despite previously saying he wouldn't do such a move and despite many people from his own party saying he wasn't going to he did uh pardon hunter notably it's for not just the gun case who is being investigated for but for like everything up to I think he was like january twenty fourteen um in this of course really runs counter to democrats saying a constantly on the campaign trail that no one's above the law which someone made a beautiful compilation of on x that we can play right now.

No one is above the law. No one is above the law.

Nobody is above the law.

No one is above the law.

No one is above the law.

But however, as long I noted in the daily, why are we pro clutching about parnes? Now, like you, this is us. Grant pardon confederate generals fd r part in like the population of since anadi. Like the real issue in my eyes is like doing so now despite saying, like all those years that you weren't going to, that's the real 的 issue in my ice。

I yeah, I think the lie is hard to stomach. Yeah I think it's also hard for me to span, right? So so so by hardens for eleven is an eleven year period? Yes, that's that's that raises an eyebrow for me.

That's like what what do you mean an eleven year year period? What specifically are you partners? It's this this concept of um of of a unconditional sort of like whatever arden for crimes not only that we're committed or that we know about and that that he was um that he was um what is he called um but he was something of what is the word of like accused of a when you get IT .

when you are court .

and they like you go on a fuck in prison but I wanted tell you how long in a minute convicted um so he's only part of for crimes that that he was convicted of but for crimes that he committed that we don't even know of that's really weird and I would say, you know where mary bizarre ethical territory here and it's like anything what if he committed treason, which is possible I mean, we're talking about the connection between him and ukraine like I don't know what's going on there, nobody does.

And other the baLance and there's a reason that they issue the partner. Um I think that's yeah that's that's the warehouse of this is not just the depart of his son after a conviction, though even that would be probably unethical. I think the partner should really be used.

There's something there some utility to IT, I think where it's like the justice system imperfect and it's kind of nice to have a human at the other end of at all who can actually like a human. And you say this was wrong and the country thinks this is wrong. I think this is wrong.

And to fix this and you saw that a little bit um with trump when he parted that woman for the drug charge um in his term and everyone who felt like, yeah, that was messed up and like thank you for doing that obama part a lot of people. Uh, I only looked into a couple of them or one of them really which one that came up IT was another one that was like this like a sort of unfair drug charge and and I be willing to believe that obama probably had a bunch of these. They were just um they were too much and not right in this of the time.

whatever. There's something in IT there, I don't know, even the confederate thing I can defend as well. You know, you, this is as grant winds for the north and then is trying to heal the country.

And so he just try to, you know, get over this. And it's like you need something, you need a person, a human to to touch this as a human rather than as this you know unfeeling, unthinking machine that just exit exerts what neutral justice ever. But this doesn't feel like that. This feels like something really personal that is very dark and difficult to defend until we know the extent of the crime he committed. And yeah.

I am the city like the reverse pardon? Like O J.

like oj.

Like to know .

actually he was definitely yes.

You got to go. I saw another one that was crated. Someone's like, you know, I really before if the president gave people blanket partis who weren't accused of anything but got specific like i'm going to part in joe scarboro am I going to put a name to this? I'm going .

to part in like .

I personally hate for looking at inappropriate pictures of miners like part he's party for IT. He's party for IT. And I just like quiet just puts him in the news for that.

K that's really funny.

Could also do like almost A A stand up routine or you you're parting them for like just being at you're like, i'm pardon you meco, what what's your name for? Like to say about her like her nipples were bleeding .

or something. 你是谁 的 part？

Did he say something about plastic surgery? Your face was badding.

I am. Maybe there .

was .

a very, didn't you see that that about meggan something about with Megan? I think, yeah, that was a long time ago. Yeah, I was, you think or .

one of their one of their fights you can part .

in .

the entire insane radical left just turned to do a row.

I yeah of thing. It's just like a funny I think yeah.

twenty five minutes. And up to what we should .

do is if we're going to partner at all like this, you can't as partner a little bit of lazy. You have to go all in part on a lot like just do you should have you should a part of truth yeah is I think you should destroy apartment about the optic first. All there is nobody on the democratic side who thinks really, honestly believed that trump h loves in prison the crime that he committed.

No one seeks that IT is pure politics. It's pure war. Um and this is your opportunity to get out kind of in an interesting way with with hunter.

It's like you say, listen, all the laughter has gotten so out of control. I am partners, all of these people. I'm partners, trump and partners. Uh, the j six people i'm pardoning ban in who I think is still in is bin still in jail but still i'm parting is no longer felin i'm parny my son who was a victim of laughter other sign.

And now it's time for us to come together and you know get over all of this shit um you know fuckyou polo c and then he bounced to the beach with the ice cream corn, and he would be remembred. Well, I think, yeah, because we do feel, I think we all feel this real uncomfortable is discomfort with the state of the politician. Everything impossibly agree with you would .

play really well to the bite and me, where he walks off with the link and park music in the movie credit partner. Everyone is like the music heads.

He's out a to unify the country. yes. And I would I would be totally agree with what you're saying. He should be part, he should be partners with political enemies, and he should be parting people on the right. He should be partner, the j six grands .

and the feds .

that um that such the whole thing .

up yeah it's 乱。 七头 reputation， the whole thing would change .

something about that. I want him to eat out of win .

yeah you .

and and we I feel like there's this there's this being going around around about biden .

that is like getting back at the democratic party.

Yes.

I .

idea right .

away.

Yeah.

which obama, obama, yeah, obama did not want that. Obama wanted to have a process and policy wants to have a process. And biden said, okay, so you're forcing me out.

fine. Good luck kala, who everyone hated. But people forget that cella the worst approval. The reason no one heard of her for years was because he was so bad that people, they hit her away so bidens like, comes up.

It's the only right thing to do there was a sense to IT because of the money piece like SHE SHE could campaign the money that really raise. There was something rational about IT but um but there was no process and he did that on purpose so they say maybe that was sabotage and uncertainly mean his behavior throughout the election. He didn't really campaign much at all for her.

He was on the beach. Pictures of him at the beach were brutal. Or the democrats and and then also IT was famously but trump pat laughing.

Not I I love that picture.

Not good. I love IT and a and then IT was like that in the end that, you know, trump wins by in as trump over. And he's having the time of his life at that press conference, just like talking his old power, Donald. And who he's said is the right, like just months ago, this is the rise of fascism another like he's chock dogs not shown, seemed happy. And I think that's where comes from my fair piece .

of evidence that why I believe that they vote of a trump joe biden war a full red dress to go voting that day yeah, don't act like they don't know what they're doing. This is like the same bb in politics or whole life and obama world had to melt down. Yeah, they know what they're doing. I like that's a red as to as he was learning.

but I believe in a fall in the the ukraine um long range missile thing I think that was was bad for trump and I suppose good for democrats by the falls well you you .

talking about, I know I back to the world so you have you have biden allowing a ukraine to use long range missile so that would strike into russian territory that were given to them by the americans after saying .

that he wouldn't let them along the time and so this happens like said that was .

a red line is pretty razed to be like here these mussels go a blow up in moss yeah yes yeah. That I would be upset too if rush did that.

Like that sounds like war to me so um he does that and the whole worlds like, I mean the right wing is generally saying, oh, biden wants to create war because they this is what they believe every time like the talk calls right but I thought, you know this is and I was action also mention this IT feels like a bargaining ship sort of actually is sort of helpful for truth because you have this like crazy by and who's doing this crazy thing at the very end of his term when IT can't possibly affect really much and then trump comes in and immediately hasn't negotiating, isn't ship to negotiate with with putin and I believe this like we will will take that you get off. You guys give me this and I want to take this off now drop as a barinia that he didn't have that this is like an extra one for him. I think it's a kind of works in a bit, provide that we do not all die before january twenty. Big IT works in droops favor.

I so hope that's the case, not the start of whole word. I think that was our take on IT was like we hope that this is a bargaining .

chip and not the start of world, world, world three, nobody wants a war. Guys is ripping.

You do. Video, russia zone long range missiles coming down like vertically. It's horrifying.

Yes, you guys have to see this video. Maybe you can find IT. I've never like science fiction. You to topia. It's scary. Not ideal to watch because these things are coming in from fuck from like outer space, basically and they're going mock seven. And so all you see is is just like in a millisecond this like missile coming down and the whole sky lights up. It's crazy .

yeah crazy yeah.

More we have to talk .

about the point market. Uh, so suber related to this and totally, it's the the question partner, which I think is IT is an interesting one. Thank you, Polly. Market for supporting power wise is a pay partnership and um we could not do the incredible reporting that we do without your support.

So on the seven first twenty twenty four, president joe by issued to fall an unconditional parting to his sun one hundred by and covering all federal offenses committee between january first twenty teen and december first twenty twenty four. This part includes hunter biden's convictions on federal gun and tax event charges. In a statement, president biden expressed that he had refrained from interfering with the justice department decision but felt compelled to act, stating, I kept my word even as I have washed my son being selectively and unfairly prosecuted.

So the question, who will be pardoned next? And you know, a bunch of them are coming so political reported that the White house may part in doctor Anthony fauci to protect them from future federal investigation and prosecution. Uh, so that's up on palmer there, a bunch.

So we have at the time of our recording right now, folks think anthy fact is a thirty one percent chance of being parked. So relatively low, lower than I would place IT during the sons at six percent. That's not happening to biden.

But maybe under under tromp, I could see penel Anderson going into the White house in petitioning on behalf of boy. This chain has a twenty five percent chance of being prevented tly pardon for what crime? Um not entirely sure, unless i'm not deepening up.

Maybe there is a blanket chy family. But now on trump, on Polly, we've got ross or break sixty five percent. We have donal trump self partner at only a thirteen percent chance which confuses what do they know that I don't know.

I thought that was like ninety nine. I thought we were going to be right in the pie wired piece about the first ever self parking. Um Edwards snow, nineteen percent change.

I don't see that what happening. And eric atoms at to six percent chance. I will say that I see a higher chance of that when happening.

What do you guys make of these parts? And start with the bine ones. What do you think in fouche?

I I mean, though he is the one to talk about, what do you guys think about the potential fouche pardon? What do you think that happen? And second of all.

do you think that should happen? Is an like an admission of guilt to to preemptively well.

still may will be that this it's actually just a tell into what they think the trumpet administration is going to do. They think the trumpet administration, the republicans undertrained p are going to go after fouche regardless of where are not fouche committed crimes, for example, being responsible for A A once in a generation delic killed millions of people and shut our entire world down for literally years here.

But it's also a tell that they don't believe in the power of our justice system and our institutions to survive another trump presidency, which I did years ago.

I mean, this is the question, right? Like I never understand what they are talking about this stuff. It's like all the naughty stuff and now that it's like the trump IT was fine actually like I was whatever he didn't like him, you either like him didn't but whatever but like we literally are here. We survived democracy happened there in election. Like I don't understand the .

argument that is the part in and work like if.

No, a partner .

make a trial or a lawsuit against fouche more or less likely, I guess less.

But like I was only creative if it's like one of these well, I don't even know. This is like the the blanket hard in preemptively. I believe the hundred one was historic in this way. So I don't does that hold up in core? I don't know, not sure.

I mean, what what a crazy voice of how he been like, the so called hero in the early panem not like a part in like the fact that even come out of the conversation and he did, that's crazy.

I mean, I think where they would probably try get him is surgery um because of the game of functions died and that's just one of those things in law. If you like the ego after someone for because you can't get them for the real reason your mad, which is going to function research, which I think I could even steal, man, kind of functional research like, I mean, this is like there is a bio argument favor of doing this kind of research.

You're trying to get ahead of pandemics and creators when they're ver. But of course, when you work with china, you have to assume that everything that you're doing is going to be used for military purposes. So that's really there's .

no justification for that be the worst I did them to deal because i'm especially we see who I knew whose that new .

FBI .

directly that like trumped es cash cash they want to keep .

onto go after people. So two hundred million fraud and .

the report crazy in the report .

of the house report on COVID, that's like weird that I don't want even the Fosters to go. It's like, oh yeah, some random guy creating some fake business and about the alone in some slum I don't care about that. I care about the government officials responsible for that entire system.

How do they just how do you just preside over two hundred a billion dollars of fraud and then keep working in your job? Like not all you're not being put in jail, but like you're still getting a paycheck for us. That's crazy.

And it's like everything there's never been we've not had a recording for everything that we went through under covet. And I would like to see something and I think it's I want to see the democrat can understand the democrat actually allowing factually to become a kind of scape goat and they get out themselves. But then maybe no.

everything in that code report was like all the things we got banned on for social media else, all the things they told you that your your crank, if you think that way, like everything in that report was exactly, was in twenty and twenty.

talked about effect acy of the vaccines. They talked about the same. He talked about the out, the ah the masking effect acy IT talked about the farm of shutdowns for children.

He talked about two hundred billion dollars of fraud. He talked about the fact the virus almost certainly came from a lab in china like that we fuck and funded. This is the stuff. This is this. This is why we have the state. The information, let's call IT in the information disaster that we have right now in this country is because the truth was guarded from us rapidly for years when we needed to the most.

Why you started this magine? If Riley lost part war, two hundred billion dollars, we, we fire him.

I would hope so.

If I ably think .

I have to .

a billion link wars would be so enormous to me.

And he lost first.

I know, but I would just want, I would need time in the forces of all to do just what? Yeah.

there should be triggers in the government. Forget IT for you automatically fired. You lose two hundred billion dollars.

Well, so you guys, but do you guys think this will happened? Thirty one percent low. These are low, these are all low than I thought but is getting easily parted. And uh you can maybe map hold this up. We have um I tweed a list.

Uh I was on wikipedia of just like all of the partner by president, but is still pretty noisy like the time of the tweet he was like in his twice and and so that you know he's not he only just getting started in a month ago. I think the partners are coming um why not he just created the sort of innovation of the blanket unconditional partner of things that have not even been discovered yet. So like why not a fouche part?

I'm just trying to imagine that outrage on the right if that happens, like they already hate the sky so much if that happens and there's just like you above the law, you like I think we're close to like riots that's insane like you they .

hate .

fouche someone yeah I don't I didn't see a big chance for happy. But I could be one of things for that can can lead to the media and like the stories can spend up and then maybe he gets more, more attention and like he eventually does part in because like, like, like I got to do IT now because it's much attention .

on IT because like this kind, kind of nowhere for me. I'll like, wait, what about you parking out the view? I went, checked out.

I always give them a little, a little, a little bit of my attention. They had a whole show defending the concept apartment before, even happened days before IT happened. I believe that someone in the White houses in contact with them to help them get messages out, please.

And I really believe this and no one covered that. It's a fairly big deal to me that they were talking about these days in advance and then obviously looks ef defending IT as IT happened then the republican plan they have on there to pretend that their not a left wing show they saw coming. And I think that maybe that's where we should look for the next promotive parnes IT will be interesting to see with a few ladies, all the watch. I can tell you in the america, you can pat on the platform, but you can rest assured that a that felt he is getting out the view .

to White house pipeline is real.

I like IT yeah so any thoughts on maybe the um these are with the .

truck was like the last one for trump. Actually IT should be hard than sixty five percent because the bet has to happen. He ran on that. He all the big of people I like.

he was going to do that. Yeah, he had mentioned he also just took he took a Victory lap with the crp of people already with big coin. He said, i'm the, you're welcome. Maybe he thinks that are, you know, my dad is paid to the to the crypt, to bank.

I know, I know there is a big contention .

by libertarian types .

that a lot they really want ross to to be to be part. And so he has come, has to do that, must have do anything. But like you should didn't .

ross like commit like crimes though?

This would require a whole .

show OK going off off the point stuff.

But we do a russia when when department everyone comes back up, we can discuss IT. It's a complicated story. You don't really, really get on the show for that.

A sign bannister, who I has follow IT really closely and is a free ross guy. What about a self? Part of last dots is last part of the segment be idle.

Will IT happened? I don't even know that you can do IT. I don't either never been tested. A lot of the cases .

have already like been dropped on their own, right. So maybe that's the reason why he won't.

But like what they they were paused .

I thought like the jack Smith has stepped down. I think it's like the georgia one is .

still going on. They're waiting for a sentencing and the sentencing I ve always .

paused until .

after right his his term.

So oh then yes, to do IT the self partner. Now that's how I play IT.

Here's the other question. So he's going to be old, is going to like that's nothing to stop them if you can do as if you can do a part in preemptively or an enormous period of time. And we're now entering this world of law fair where both sides seem very keen on destroying the lives of not only the people are running against, but their family members.

Then do we not just see a tradition now of as people exit the White house, they everybody they know and everyone in their family for everything they've done? And then also, I would say, like can you even be mad about that whether A A republican or democrats does IT? I think the answers no because there's no way to function as a democracy now without that.

If we're in the business now of of jAiling people after they lose elections, then we cannot persist. We will never attract competent people back to politics again as long as that environment persist. So kind of in favor of the black department that point.

Well, I guess i'll tell tell you, as would you part in your son.

I would probably not are under biden, but I think the problem here is that there was probably some connection between one hundred and and jail like, I know I would probably not part on at my craft tic son. But I wouldn't have gotten in a job in ukraine either, and I wouldn't have been like a dirty, corrupt politician either.

So like, who can get in the mind of the very.

very primal? I don't think that this is is complicated as people are pretending actually the real reason of replicas, because I was complicated in right, in my opinion. You know, legal note, that's a conspiracy theory, allegedly entertainment .

purposes only. That is just saying.

guys, it's Christmas.

That is what people were saying though, about the timing of the hunter partner. It's like, right, when the ukraine buries must have started to .

pop off so before two and fourteen probit .

brain with you .

part in your son? Yeah, let's go.

I would. Do you guys get .

a budget baLance in the house? Yes, I mean.

you tear point if my son was doing, my uni was doing probably, but just has .

a general listen to my son would never act like her.

not my son. Never .

about my .

house didn't. Is there's another the another band that died, right?

Yeah.

that was a good one. yeah.

Rather that the law of by famous is like, he, like, really great. And was that I unexpected .

don't.

But he was a chosen one and he was a star.

And after sex with the good s. Wife, like there's a lot there. We're closing that chat, guys.

It's over. The partnership are coming in. I'm sure we're having more. We we got to move on to the idle segment. Let's go.

OK IT is time. IT is time. IT is time. For the moment you've been waiting for not only have the semi finals run semi als, right, with the not only the semi finals of the greatest show on the internet, concluding or not concluding, continuing right now IT is the battle of the spouses that give us some like crazy music or something on top of the piano music to tee up the battle of the century.

And here they are, we have in the audience with us, Chris and Olivia, where you guys coming in from me now, are you in different rooms? Are like what? What does the vibe tell me everything that you're thinking, feeling?

Here I met my working space that I met that I typically work from Olivia downstairs .

at home speak the tension is high .

yeah also a well, you know it's been a real joy um we are stocked to Carry on and I would say and i'm just going to get right into IT living of you up first. And the topic that I would like you to see up for us as we Carried on the show today is this transgender biller, not bilma arted. The court case is that the supreme court is hearing right now, what do you break down the story for us? And then we're all get into the topic.

Step one out of riles book. Yeah sure are thing. So the supreme court appears likely to uphold the tennessee ban on gender affirming care for kids. The case brought by families and a doctor opposing the ban argued the law constitutes sex discrimination. The courteous conservative majority seems poised to sideward tennessee conservative justices like Robert kony, berry and cabinet raised concerns over unsettled science as well as the state authority to regulate medical practices. Um many of you also probably saw the viral tweet by the first openly transgender lawyer to speak before the supreme court saying that two year old's getting gender uh surgery is something that they would that he would support SHE he would support. That's basically the case and there's a couple of different uh， angles we could take here.

Yeah, I saw a congee Brown jack, and I was picked the arranged ment of her names. Which one is IT, which I don't know. The one, the new one by the one that biden said, I think was the most recent supreme court justice SHE compared this to another one via SHE, was comparing into interaction.

Al marriage, which I thought was like, wild, like, rather really crazy. But I mean, is anyone like me? What guys thinking is, is that who was IT defended?

Probably someone should .

still manned and still, man.

I think that that people like Brown, Jackson, or whatever name is see IT as a humans rights issue, and not anything else. And so if you're treating and sing nine year olds as some sort of fundamental human right, I can see how you would elevate that to the level of national marriage, which I think is a perfectly reasonable needs to have that being you okay thing to do.

And I think .

what's going on here to which is interesting is like one side of IT is is this actually sex based discrimination by our constitutional standards? Um and i'm going i'm going to argue, no, it's actually an age based discrimination um but it's really difficult to offer an age based discrimination to the supreme court because our society is full of age based discrimination. Miners cannot drive. They cannot smoke cigarettes, they cannot drink alcohol, they cannot serve in the military. They can even get a job.

We can get the truth.

We can get one.

can get that the truth.

Yeah, exactly. And so this is actually an age based scription, the x space one. One of the arguments that was presented in this trial is like, okay, if a Young boy wants to get to stash room treatment to speed up his analysis, has a hormone deficiency, he can, but a Young woman wants that, then you cannot.

And that's why this is a sex space discrimination. I think that's a pretty big stretch. And I think because they presented IT as sex space discrimination at all, it's pretty clear that it's gonna ban will will go through.

Well, I think it's it's not just I think it's a clever IT was not like the case would have happened with or without this framing what the actual tennessee because a bunch these bills I think in the country but the tennessee been specifically allowed for, let's say a Young boy has delay puberty or something and needs to ask her to jump s start that which is I don't know, comment IT is but that is a treatment that is that exists.

I don't think if that controversial and um the state got ahead of that and wanted to preserve IT so they said they specifically carved IT out and they said there are a handful of things they carve IT out like this um and I said, well, this is OK but uh any sort of sex ormonds that um are contras, someone's sex like treats for that will be will be banned and so then IT actually is others in each thing here but but I think IT actually is a sex space discrimination thing they're saying like like and boys have to start from but have girls which may be sounds crazy if to us but like legally speaking, I don't know that they don't have a like to stand on. I mean, they're using preexisting law that maybe that preexisting law is the problem. Like like maybe maybe this is just a problem of our sex discrimination laws or something.

I'm pretty sure this is also, by the way, how gay marriage made IT through the court was something specifically like this where they said, got IT was so long you how can i'm to try and do my best to remember how they justified IT? But IT was something along the lines of, like, by now I can't remember IT, but I was this expire scribing thing. They they made some sort of tenuous argument within the confines of of that.

And so probably IT all past, but not because I don't think because the arguments flags. I think because there are more people on the world who are like this. Is this like we want? It's like the states right to do this.

So we're going to find some way to justify IT no matter what, which seems how they're all coming at this issue. When I was listening to the justice, they are all very clearly had made up their mind before they eat and saw this. And and then I just like this weird game in american law where you just have to find some arcane thing that existed a century ago and still like cast your spell and um and sort of move on.

So if you guys all heard of the drug to timide, most people know IT from the billie joe song. But to litigate IT was a drug that was prescribed to pregnant women to treat morning sickness. And the result was thousands of babies were born without arms and legs, or very deformed arms and legs.

And this drug was legal in europe and africa and some parts of south amErica as well, and widely used. But there was one woman who would worked for the fda in america, and he had really big concerns about the use of this drug. And so he continued to like, pushed back and not allow approval in the united states.

And the results of that is thousands of infants were spared from serious deformities. So a huge concern I have about puberty blockers and hormonal therapy for minors is the shake ky science. Like there are no long term studies on any of this stuff. And the effects IT has for kids, like just from a hormonal perspective, like anyone who is or has lived with a woman knows that based on the time of the month she's going to she's going to be more except table to certain things know and is because it's that's just a hormonal reality of humans. And so for children whose hormones are not even fully developed like we don't know the long term consequences and there are serious concerns about bonds' and fertility, which would be irreversible.

Um so I did some first principles here like I look up how our children diagnosed with gender dis phya and it's all behavioral al and mental questioners not a single medical review of like what's going on in their body you know if these kids were diagnosed with serious hormonal efficiencies and then they could kind of supplement to help them with whatever mental health issues were was all thing. That's one thing. But these are purely like emotional quality ative evaluations.

right? It's so the opposite of everything that was prescribed uh, socially for Young gay kids when we are coming to terms as a culture with out how we treated gay IT was um well, you just leave them alone. You know they're fine like like they don't.

We have to do anything to them. They can live their life like we can live our life. Um you treat little gay kids with respect, whatever. And that kids, I mean like teenagers, they're coming out or whatever, like whatever, like nobody ying IT a super, super upper. Like this is who they are, and like, just don't touch them.

And the trends argument, which has lumped into that is precisely the opposite, is to this is a mental state that they have that needs to be affirmed. And to do that, you have to dramatically alter them chemic cormon's permanently. And i'm not often surgically and that you know and which is what they're calling her transfer. I believe the the the lawyer on the case, he is change.

Yeah it's a he sorry.

he and that is what that lawyer, that is the argument they were trying to make. I I think you know maybe but maybe can make an argument like that, but it's just so completely knew that you have to give IT to I think you have to give IT to the states. This is a really, really new issue and people we're going to have to decide this on their own.

You can have some top down a enforcement of of allowing something that IT is medical and we don't, like you said, know the consequences of I think you have to just exercise um openness on these issues that are so new. It's just kind of my name, I think not my opinion about IT. So you actually .

don't have to leave this up to the states if you didn't want to. The inspector general holds the right to exclude nurses and doctors from participating in federal health care programs, and so that means that they can revoke those individuals rates to using any medical insurance in public health. So the inspector general ism appointed by the president, so we could, we could do, we could say, I call on president to permanently remove all medical professionals who have violated their hypo crates growth by participating in enabling or profiting off of the mute mutilation of children as Youngest, too.

right? I wasn't saying illegally. I was saying my like sort of opinion on IT, which is that we should leave the states just because IT seems like people really I mean, I I don't think I maybe guys understand IT more than I do, but I don't it's it's an issue that I feel like I guess I just maybe there's something in me that doesn't like telling parents what they can and can do with their kids, first of all, like that.

Maybe the other can like confusing part of this. As you have parents who brought the case to test against tennessee, they're saying, like this is what we want for our kid. And we just have I I will say, you know, I find IT apparent personally.

I guess like. A comparison is like, why can I take my son to his pediatrician and be like, listen, I want more fee for him .

for right?

Good point. Like we you know that's that's not under that's not an argument and it's partly because we understand that morphine for babies is .

bad most like you can go and be like, I don't think my son should have a hand .

and so we need to cut IT off permanent general mutilation that results in them being unable by their children.

It's so my grey areas, right? Because like one of the problems of this situation, because parents seem to be almost forcing some kids into IT from like the sort of magic social side of IT, especially special S I could to be more gay or or trans. So and then like the other great areas, like you'll see people who make the example of, like, oh, I knew those two old trans, like maybe they were and then like everyone else, no has no idea. And so like you just start and this liba like who actually knows and who is crazy? Who is part of like the the culture at the time of .

what's invoke and they can do whatever they want when they eighteen think but we're now beyond this is like the core case is not this, the core case is not this reading deciding when they know the stuff ble we ban the stream court is deciding whether or not um states have the right to ban IT like we're not even at that like let's ban IT all across the country phases is the question of whether all the states have this right and I think they certainly do have the right and you saw that the in the cases even another that one thing that really bothered me was the the distortion of the the concept like settled science here and that's what train etho was doing.

He was he was going like he was saying like, oh, we know that this is A T that this is helping these kids IT is with their um their sense of despoil and like suicide dian and things like this. And one of the supreme court justice at of in cagan who was of all of the crazy justice is is usually my favorite but was very bad on this. Who brought up this this idea that like they're always Better off and they say they're Better off and it's reporting with Better off, but that's not the other juices bringing like actually like all the recent science that we have about this is indicating the opposite.

All of the studies are indicated in the opposite. All of the european and studies are indicating the opposite. All of the eupeptic gis lation is leaning towards the opposite because of the studies, like the people who are not following the studies right now, there is trendy fa and his friends like those.

The people who are not following the studies, because for them in adults are really are happy with their hormone treatments and things like this. And that's fine. But you, whatever, live your life, keep IT away from the kids. And and again, like at the very least like this is the state of right to ban IT for you I may .

be heard out about for your setting science. They heard that without right .

topics IT turns out never settles. It's like, you know, just run another study.

The point, what does the puberty blocker do like you? What is the person that did?

Like person happened. Voice never .

changes. Years old sound .

like a good. I was .

just going to say, like when you talk to doctors actually about this for years, what they were telling parents was that I was a temporary on off switch and that if you used puberty blockers, then IT was not permanent and IT was fully reversible. And that was absolutely not true. IT is is a IT is a permanent IT causes permanent damage. Those children, they never go through those later developmental stages. So they they don't develop physically the way that people do when they go through the every and and they lose the ability to .

have children yeah on the small business .

thing is .

like a tiny well that is true and IT becomes a problem for a trans women later on in life. We want to get that. Gery, this is, this is a lot of information. I know if you guys want all this information, the ready pod, ready dicas much information.

No jail. Mike.

I don't know, but I have read the vagina plate. What the becomes very difficult, what time is not to say if we not talk about this, is the facts. Man, you want the facts.

You want the facts. You get the facts on pie wires. And he becomes almost IT, becomes close to impossible. If you've been on these drugs and you have a micropolis, which is what happens for Young men who are given these drugs because they use that tissue to create I and so then they have to do all these other fucked up things and it's yeah it's like a total it's a total sort of scary .

mostly and obviously you can't reproduce .

of course yeah ah you get A A well is on let's move on. I would love .

to talk trans .

yeah transitioning right now to um we are transition to the tesla judge so i'm going to let Chris, just not this one out of the park for us ahead.

I mean, to try to get through a lot of back story very quickly. A delivery judge ruled on monday that tesla CEO elon mosque still is not entitled to receive his fifty six billion dollar compensation package despite shareholders of tesla voting in june to reinstate IT.

So this is the ruling by the judge chancer or kathleen mccoy of the of the change following her january decision called the pay package excessive and resented IT that surprised basically everybody because judges don't traditionally do this. And um people are saying this cast uncertainty on whether muscle stay with the car, stay with tesla. So at the time, a little history at the time the deal was signed in twenty eight, tesla had a market cap of fifty billion dollars from muk to get paid.

Tesla market cap had to double to a hundred billion, and then mum was paid more for each additional fifty billion dollars. He increased tesla value all the way up to six hundred and fifty billion at the time. That must sign the agreement.

IT was super unclear that this was even possible. Talking had jim cramer said, quote, if elon makes that much money for people, I would double what he gets. I wish everyone would take that kanker of cnbc square x Andrew sorkin said, it's truly eat what you kill skin in the game.

Dare I say crazy. Perhaps the most radical compensation plan in history, impossible to gain. If he gets to, say, ninety nine billion, he gets nothing.

Not only did test book get to six hundred and fifty billion dollars, IT only took three years, then must be suit. To claw back that payout, the lawyers filed the lawsuit on behalf of a single test. The shareholder, who only owns nine shares worth less than three thousand, two hundred dollars, and actually made money for those tesla shares. Uh, this was an unelected judge who said, must deserve zero dollars, but awarded the eternity that suit mask three hundred and forty five million dollars, a rate of eighteen thousand dollars per hour in teslas shaps.

That's the most ironic .

part is the .

tesla shares. I know, yeah, he said he wants that money in tesla. You know, like you don't .

want that as well.

but I do this is it's it's crazy. I don't know how to justify this and you thought like across social media, all of the invest is like pretty unanimous ous agreement on this among CEO and investors and shareholder like mature shareholder and major companies.

We were just like who fucking asked you, kathleen, who asked you, why are you talking right now where this is our an agreement between us? Your job is a judge is to make sure that agreement is we follow through you on our agreement, not to not to change our agreement or alter our agreement in some way. I think it's it's pretty bad for the city of delivery.

This is a this is a state that I discovered this week. While all sort of playing around with researching the news, I didn't realize there are more companies incorporated and delivery than there are people who live in the state. And that is because obviously, deliver the entire corporate law structure of that state is exist to encourage this, to encourage and co Operation in the day is like this is what they do is their business.

I think it's just I mean, there are a lot of elements of this, but one of the strangers to me is just that this is so sort of contract. The best interest of the state of delivery like separate phone is happening to to elan. It's weird to me that they would do this. I just don't I don't understand or or tolerate this. I just don't .

any legal presence for the shareholders made a decision in the court overturns IT.

How is that even the remotely allow I there be a good I .

don't think that, that shareholder vote was legally in a way that, that judge would have to then overturn her decision. I think I was just they were using they're going to use that as a piece of evidence in the world.

People, yeah. The original question like a case that in a way that you can bring in this evidence.

The other interesting thing is that this is the judge that forced you want to buy twitter but don't IT seems crazy to me that because .

he regrets that yeah he totally didn't disagree with with him and it's like now he runs the country because he is really second .

in command right now got .

to be some legal status that prevents a judge from being biased, clearly like this.

And I mean, how present .

so what's interesting.

as I looked in to how these judges actually get elected. And in america, a lot of judges and a lot of states are actually voted on, but that's not the case in delivery. And there's all about it's about fifty, fifty.

So in deliver, they're actually elected by the governor. So in this case, that's john carney. And um he had lawyers privately submit who should be elected to this position and then he makes the decision.

And so it's really shady. This is historically how it's always been done. Um so it's arguably a case of law fare. And another example of an unelected bureaucrats, he was an elected that's doing a lot of damage to america.

What's ilaria to is her salary is presumably taxpayer funded, which delaware taxes come from these corporations that they're waging war on. It's like really put you so like do you really want your salary to .

just like b going away thinks about I think this feels like reflexively trumped arrange to me it's all there is not like this is a variation. That is a new variation is like the delta variant, which is elland arrangement, and that is what SHE is suffering from. Um this explains the twitter thing. This explains the double down on this decision with the shareholders and he just doesn't care. And I don't think that there is really like I don't seen the consequences for her.

I I don't know anyone in paradise knows about local delaware politics. For what are they doing in their state like this? Is there, is there thing, you know, is the corporation?

Is the governor .

the nominated? I want to know, does anyone know about delivery period?

Like who has been to deliver south of new jersey?

I know that I dreve there once for movie. Let me just tell me the movie. I was in college and I was walking the street. I saw advertisement for trials for a movie, and I was like a student movie.

I thought, I love to aldo that, and I was acting in high schools like I does in a while, like, yeah, i'll try out for the show. And the show was called the movies called dela, where W H R E and I about this very premise. IT was a bunch.

People were like, who's ever been to deliver? Nobody is even really is a conspiracy. Y and then they go on this journey to find, deliver and and in the na, do in the na try to get there and they realize it's not real.

I believe if you can find that there was A B, U. I ve made along the way yeah, IT was very short, actually. Remember anything other else about IT other than I was a star, of course, and I brush IT.

but I care about, I think we should make moona state instead of delaware.

I think replace them like .

if they're going to wage war against like the whole reason they exist, which is corporations.

just it's honestly too small to be estate. Like it's we're like very it's very silly. I don't know how that happened historically.

I don't know why we're lowing to persist. IT doesn't make any sense whatsoever. And I get really man when they started about making D, C, A state.

That's crazy. That's first all. It's dc in a state inside of another state. I can just be a part of that state. IT doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Ah I think we need like other we need to expand territory but maybe reduce the number of states.

I'll say Greenland first before dc.

Greenland doesn't have to be a state Green len can be a territory. We don't need to make IT to stay if people like place on the flag or whatever fish. Well, that's good enough reason to not first.

All second, like IT doesn't have to be state. We have pull tons of territories. This on the state.

He was virgin lands aren't states. I can't print. Is that the mariana islands? guam? american? simple. These aren't states.

This is just territory that we own Green len can be that cuba publish to be a state. I think I think they going to vote the way that I want to vote. So so really like humans in.

Of course, they're getting senators. And I think we we had a populated first, but will probably after be populated, I think one state who just sounds really cool. So i'm favor of that.

And what do you guys think, king, about that? By the way, where are you on the issue of on moon day? Od, oh, you know, i'm going to reduce IT. Let's start with Greenland and we can take IT up there.

hello.

And OK you. I like that somewhere. And to do with open, why know where does this go? I guess does this go with the tesler stuff? I mean, how does this does IT?

IT goes up to a higher corner delaware that is apparently more conservative. Gary black is a guy that professionally, he talks about this stuff and has a lot of investors. And so he's analyzed and he says, just go to a higher corner anywhere and they're more conservative.

When one last angle to this that I would point out is and is with great sadness and incredibly reluctance, that i'm forced to admit that the british may have a point in britten. If someone sues and losses, they may be required to pay the defendants legal costs that discourages frivolous and false claims. This is called the loser pace.

Yeah, we need that. I mean, this case never who is tell me more about that. We know anything else about the guy who who suit, who have this, the nine shares.

yeah, a single guy and and find someone they want the case control around. They find the guide to represent them for the for .

the two case yeah.

we going to do about crazy lawyers. This is like A D A trolling patent troll. There's another new type trolling, and I forget, but very pathetic.

Yeah, I don't. I don't like IT a model an of IT a model an of the judge kathleen got my fucking in. I don't. That's her name. It's cathode lean.

There's an extra aim there randomly .

like relies is appointed.

She's a yes.

the nation needs caren. We need caren to look what do something that's a whole the topic guys has spent real and we've got ta wrap IT up. This is is IT looks like our Christmas episode, but it's not our Christmas.

We have you know two more weeks ago. I just was in the spirit everyones in miami. Any last thoughts?

I mean, we could go backwards. I mean, you just want to talk about the trans situation, time to see. We can talk about his love, can combine these things somehow. There is a link. I know the link.

I'm going to bring you up. You, I don't know IT so are physician's yeah .

yeah the .

link is that um well I don't the link is could be ill on in Chris talked about this in another episode like his child a these a couple states that allow children to receive gender a firming care without the of their parents. Washington and organ are two of those. And then some schools in california have like they can offer contract action to children in school based clinics.

And so this whole like in a sense, it's good that the left went so far. I think they ended up getting a lot of moderates to vote for trump this way because they're like, listen, I don't care about your tax policy. I don't care about all these other things, but I do care about the safety of our children, who, contrary to some people's beliefs, are the most vulnerable members of our society. We need to protect them and we need to use common sense as to what's best for the long term.

Yeah IT IT seems like this is the issue that radically trump I know a lot of people um who voted for not only bed in but um Hillary who voted for trump in this election and IT was the and IT was IT was specifically this issue this was IT was the issue of ah and I was not just on the kids too. I think there was something really orienting about um watching the swimmer or a lot of people I think that was the was like watching that swimmer just like rack the and then that came a little bit later and I think people are really very arty had been piled at that point. The box was just confirmation but but the swimmer was the one where I was like, IT wasn't just that I was happening IT was that IT was that they were treated or like they were bad people for just questioning IT like just saying like wait and what's going on here.

campus SHE seems huge.

like we should talk about that probably and that's what the pilling began, I think and that's certainly he's what began and then i'm done unlike that guy with a map right now. And so like that links over to he starts getting crazy on x um which he's forced to buy by cathleen. That backfires because he was really well for him, at least in terms of politics.

And now she's really mad and she's dubble down on the test. The thing she's lashing out, she's bothered. She's trying to figure out whatever he can do to stop him um and I don't know maybe he will eventually something going to stop him.

He just keeps he's like husband damnable for years but everyone falls eventually in kathline could be the woman will he be? Not entirely sure. But stay tuned, we will find the story to see if kathleen destroys elon mosque.

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They didn't attack you much. IT was pretty capable, I don't know, was going to go on tonight. Probably scenes they get a little spicy um but you tell us who you want to see.

They're keep the private but they might get a little spicy. I want to some argue I to see that you have I I want to see a little more this function happening just for of my purposes.

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