CEO K*ller Luigi Mangione Arrested, Daniel Penny Acquitted, Mystery Drones, Trump Wants Canada As A State
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You can only push people so far, and then they start to take matters his own hands.

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What's up, guys? Welcome back to the park wires pod. We have a pack show. So i'm onna get right into IT today. All first up, moly joining us where in loss Angeles were back at my favorite studio here you can tell because we've got cramer with us um males in town.

This is where brand in and rally live last week when we were recording and occurred to us that we could actually do any person pots. So here we are again. Don't get used to IT.

Um probably i'll be back on my laptop next week but for now our together we've got coming up uh stay tuned for the party market segment where we we will be disgusting. The I mean, it's a whole host of crazy odds on the wedge. Imagine the A C E O. Sen um but first we should just talk actually about that really take IT away.

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the we mand joni, the guy who is apprehended as a person of interest in the shooting of ted health care C E. O brian thomson and later charged with his murder um so much on packet er but manja I was first detained after an employee recognize him mcDonald um in altona pensylvania um because I guess not even killers can resist the mick rib apologies arf kate junior um and according to police, his fingerprints matched the ones at the crime scene in new york city. Uh soon after he was identified and his name went public.

Uh manganese background and social media history was brought to the spotlight and this is where things get pretty interesting for one he at least at one point had a lot going for him. He was the valedictorian at a prestigious boy school and bolt more um iv v graduate former athlete um evidently was like pretty ripped at one point. Those expecting some like typical lefty and tea like uh easy to categorize liberal guy would be pretty mistake in at least based on some of his a online activity.

He shared him urban content. Uh, he was an under huberman fan, I guess agreed the talker carson about some of his takes about architecture. He even retweet Peter teel content. Frankly, a lot of IT lined up with like a typical pirate wider like reader. I was worried he was going to pop up on our subscriber list but I guess .

we have sense chat.

I was worried um but anyways major uh did also seem to express some distinct like capitalism or I guess you could say like modernity. Um he gave a favorable review of the unabomber manifesto he had an interesting tweet um about urbanized japan um describing IT as a quo evolutionary mismatch for the human animal um and calling for solutions like banning tango flash lights and japan real whole custom point star pocket is being sold in donkey hotel grocery stores.

You can say the guy wasn't creative but the uh real radicalizing event for man jonie appears to be a back injury he had that I guess was pretty debilitating ating。 Um his landlord said he even prevented him from like having sex which how would his landlord know that that's weird. In his manifesto that was later leaked online, decried how like expensive the U S. Healthcare system is um something that lefties like a lizbeth Warren, of course, launched on to saying what violence is never the answer, but people can only be pushed so far.

will IT over and violence never answer that gets a trial whose allegedly killed the CEO of united health, but you can only push people so far and then they start to take matters his own hands yeah. Lastly.

as another possible factor, lui j also seem to be a pretty big fan of psychedelic drugs, luigi mario mushrooms. The parallels continue, but how much any of that played a role in the murder, I suppose, remains to be seen.

Yeah, I saw that. Um mean, what's the identity reveal happened? I was like, I was online. I mean, like him live online.

So I at the second happened maybe within two minutes, I saw the name I saw at a twitter. I saw that he had. I saw three things I saw.

I saw huberman like he said, I saw him, urban, who I later the end, I was like, bro, I feel bad for you. Let me know how I can help. This is going to be crazy for you. And then I saw a Peter to video, and I thought, oh, luck, he's one of ours.

He is like a hundred for one of ours and when you look into IT, I mean, the more you look in, the more you see, yeah there is some left sentiment but he's attack bro and um I saw a kind of sad destruction of a of a person I think um you could see a piece together a lot if he's together not only what he was looking at and reading but also um friends of his we're online looking for him he says family IT looks like he went missing um over the summer he was supposed be at a wedding from what I could tell and he just didn't show up to IT his friends were looking for him a dust the portrait that that sort of revealed itself to me was one of real tragedy like this pain happened, I think can happen concurrent the back man happened, uh the built in backstage seem to have happened concurrently with secures. Perhaps this is all speculation at this point. Um he lost his mina little bit, became fixated on this as a path to do something and when and kill someone if it's him which we can maybe talk about in a second IT seems like it's time I um we focus a lot last week on the on hindi reaction to him.

I think I didn't want to do that again. But the lives with war in one you know very senators had had a statement that you expect from a communist st. But he's like a principled good guy and a communist st.

If that's possible. I think he does sort of walked that tight rope. Well, he he was very clear to me that he had, he was unequipped really trying to stop people from political violence.

And then he's like, but let's also talk about heth care or now let's talk about of warns did not feel that way to me, Lawrence, a little warn, felt very sort of almost like a tasted endorsement, like to to be rationalizing and understanding and justifying IT and then just as we started this podcast um there was the one that popped up from a cossio cortez which was crazy to me. This is not to comment and this is not to say that an act of violence is justified. But I think for anyone who is confused or shocked or appalled.

they need to understand that .

people interpret and feel and experience denied claims as an active violence against them. Now I just wrote a piece about this. Ah you guys to check IT out on the war stop com called the the killer inside you. The fact that like we cannot we absolutely cannot be talking about health care right now. We we can maybe be talking about the problem of extra dial public execution of class stratus, the problem of violence in the streets.

Like if you want to have a discourse about that, whatever politicians want to talk about that, whatever, but by having a conversation about health care right now, you are rewarding a behavior that concluded in the execution of a human being. You are guaranteed, absolutely guarantee, that IT will happen again. And i'm really a lot.

I am very, very nervous for a couple of reasons. One in this dude, luigi actually was frightened, sort of like seeing a bit of ourselves, not the common ist that you typically expect that they're all celebrating IT. Really, you tell, you could tell they are really trying a memory hold the fact that he's a tel boy like they don't want to believe that like they're like noise one of ours, he's a foko, whatever. But this is the thing that i'm i'm really nervous about is is the way that now these politicians, these major and very popular politicians have absolutely rewarded the behavior and and we're going I think we're going to see more that worried. What do you .

think i'm actually concerned for that point? exactly? I think it's feeling the fire even more of making IT somewhat socially acceptable because if it's a if it's brought up and you're starting to talk about healthcare because of IT, um well, that's good.

We should be talking about health care, but I don't think I should be related to a murder. I think IT should be by vocative. Let's talk about that back like leader when or if case in place and we're in a new segment of society.

But but actually giving this more fuel to the fire and then blowing up the case even more just just kind of makes IT okay. IT kind of makes you feel like, oh, okay. So actually if I do do something like this, I will get recognition for IT IT go viral and i'll create a movement. And I think that's really dangerous.

IT feels like the movement is here to me. Like if IT does feel IT, IT feels like they did IT this. This feels really like column to me, uh, in the way that IT has captivated.

I was, I don't remember U. S. Too Young for this. I think I I was also Young for this.

I was, I think how would be was ninety nine, right? So I would have been like thirteen or something the like, everything stopped at that moment and we learned about the trench coat mafia. And at that moment it's like this dark, confident with saying, okay, like that attention on earths.

Is this damon's force that captivates you? And then we have been reliving column for twenty fucking years like IT constantly IT versions of that happen again and again and again and again. It's because that initial moment, that initial moment is rewarded. These misfitted in high school are rewarded with immense amounts of attention. And it's like that's what we've been living and since. And now it's a very, very similar thing here we have we that he was like, even without the allegest rubberstamp, even without the psychotics, social media influencers, the psychotic former journalists, now performer, artist, whatever that woman is, uh, even without the politicians, like that was something that was going to haunt, like he was going to become a focal online, the communist online, we're gone to be obsessed with him, and I think that we would have probably seen stuff like this again. And and now i'm really, I don't know how at this one, I really don't know how we don't see you again.

by the way, this wasn't the first assassination attempt, at least this year. This is the one I was Carried out. The you know the twenty twenty four is gna be known as the assassination year, or at least when an assassin start.

Yeah.

which is really all start .

again because we went through this cycle. We were none of us were alive, but our parents were. They lived through A A similar memetic contagion that LED to assassination after assassination after assassination and not just attempts of major leaders.

And now here we have just IT is shocking to me how irresponsible, warn and a cossio cortez are on this issue. You expect IT from retarded media people. You you at least expect politicians to be terrified for their lives. How do you get up there and and be like, yes, that was bad, but let's talk about everything that he believes, which is all justified and good now ah it's crazy like your lives are on the line .

is not the time to stroke your political ego no.

because who is more hated in this country? You think that amErica hates C E S. More than that? He hates politicians or journalists like you are fucking you are in danger. Are IT is coming and I I don't know um I don't know what you're doing. It's really frustrating and um I don't say frightening but it's warming to me yeah .

just to sharpen up that point and make IT really clear is when you call for violence or when you excuse or celebrate violence against your tribal enemy, then you paint a target on your own back because you are somebody else's travel enemy yes. And so if you Normalize that, that you Normalize, I mean, you're putting yourself in a in a in A A threatened position.

Well, because you're justification for IT and the .

justification that is now justification the other the other side can use. So if you're saying that, okay, we're doing IT because I think he kills you.

agree, country, who is and is not evil anymore or what things even so if you are Normalizing the concept.

you don't ate journalists enough. That's everything that me yeah every day the enemy .

of the people are whatever. There's a reason the journalists were upset about that when he said that when truck said IT because IT was too humanizing and alienating and I like I understood I understood why they were upset about that, even though I felt like I wasn't wasn't like he was saying it's okay. I could understand why someone wanted to kill them.

He was never saying that he just happened to be like, there are the enemy of the people, whatever. In the context of that, this is like, what do you? what? How do you think people are going to be seeing you? This is it's hard for me to understand whether this this maybe think the violence is never going to be hitting the other side.

For some reason, they think they can control this. You can control of me like this. This is not the way the internetworking these things are.

These are powerful, the thought constructs that, like, are burst into the world randomly, that are then fed by attention that take on a life of their own outside of all of us. And this is one that is specifically violent, that will be uncontrollable forever, and that will take everybody in to hell with IT there. There's no controlling IT.

Yeah I think that like the reason you see them equivalent is to try to score like political points about health care. But like I I wonder how much of this a about luigi's actions is even about health care? Like what I see a lot of in him as just like a like especially that take about japan is just like a desire for like purpose.

Like he seems to be like, really like and that's where I see is a lot of myself in him like he seems to be like to quote to me like the sensitive Young man like he is that that person um he you know how to desired, like make a difference, that desire just got coyote til like a blood list and wanting to take out A C E O. And so I know I think this isn't some due to just like win off the rails because of health care. I think there's so many other factories there.

This is a guy who didn't want to live in a society of online gambling in uber eats and just as so as existence with like no human connection um and you know what this IT was a sensibly link to health care. Um I think there's just like a deeper phenomenon here of just so many Young men like his age. You just feel like they don't have a purpose and like don't know what to do in life.

Yeah, right? You see people getting in pieces of this. There was a story about the fact he was an insel. And it's story, oh really, oh yeah. IT was a whole like they rought in doctors to talk about what happens when men can have sex.

or was.

And he said, if we have claims from around him, from people around him, that his pain was so dibdin that .

he could have the actually.

in the sense of, I cannot experience physical intimacy with someone and that drive someone insane and that was their argument. And I think it's like their close. And I think it's more what you are saying. It's like there's this activities ation of people that happened. This is why before even we learned about him, IT was already super avoca tive.

And now it's just a runaway train because he wasn't this person who you couldn't relate to everything that happened before the break where you sea pictures of many seems crazy um and I think we learn more about I don't actually know what the city of his mental health right now I suspect not good will see but everything before he vanished was like a thoughtful person who was hitting on things that were understandable none of this shit um and that scared me a little bit. It's like you can see how easily you yourself can fall and these ideas can take over. You have to listen to the rhetoric.

My feeling listening to these people talk is they actually wanted see me die, okay, like kason piker or whatever. Obviously the middle age women we talked about last week for too long. Um you have a cassio and warn you have journalists there was a clip of one of these people on a show with what is name the british guy pears Morgan, pears Morgan. And we're all focused on the person he was like this Sparked a joy in my life or whatever.

IT was much more shocking to watch the other due on the panel um he was one of the lefties I forget his name um he used to be on sea and I believe until he said something fucked up about palestine got fired so mei has on no, he was not him but um he just kind of moved right on after hearing something that was like truly shocking and worse IT wasn't just a casual IT was not what the person that said I was not uh yeah I was bad but I was straight up this made me feel joy and he just brushed IT off right like I see that and I think these people do actually want us to die. And so the question now is, well, what is the rational way to navigate A A country like that? What is the rational way to navigate an information environment like that? Like social media, there are no more get keepers.

It's the wild west. Should we be sitting here being these good guys turn the other cheek, pretend it's not happening? I think some people pretend it's not happening and people don't mean IT I think simers ignore IT. Um do you try and be that like you see this like center right?

I'm Better than you think, which is like violence is never justified and we should talk about that relate lesser or do you get IT back, which is what I want to do and I I can not want na be the person that does that. I don't want to become the person. You started this, and I see that like dark mere there. But but that's what I want, that I want to fight back. I don't want to sit here and just be fucking gunned down by eluted and how people like that laugh about IT.

I don't know how you think about this. If it's if you are saying like it's rational to to to one extinguished the other side.

well, that's the danger. That's what i'm worried about.

Yes, that's the rational.

And I think it's like it's super dark and I I think that we have to not enter this. But I think how do you I almost think it's inevitable because yeah, like that's the human instinct to survive for IT. The human instance is not to to to sit around and do this engage in this one side of media discourse that we have had for a century where the most arranged excesses of the communist left are constantly excuse or justice.

It's to fight back. It's it's to it's to want for them what they want for you and um the nature of the internet is such as it's been sort of a gay captain guard for a while that's broken. And I think I don't know how this doesn't evolve into something that's more human, which is much more primal and much more chaotic ah and much narnia and and more violent in .

the thing is nothing that you do or like C E S. Do is going to cause them to temper their position like give you if the united, the new united healthcare C E O, all the sun goes, okay, when to donate this much to charity or something, there's still gonna like you, an evil CEO. We want to gun you down in the street. So there's really no position, like they leave, no position other than to reciprocate.

I think you need to believe that, though some people may expose good attributes or values, their actions do actually tell what their actions are and what they believe, and they are evil. They could just very well just be evil. And maybe you don't need to be a byproduct because you believe maybe one percent of the values that they have, but know if they are like really speaking out aggressively over and over again, and like maybe not even maybe supporting something as atrocious as this, not putting IT down, not putting IT off to the side, but actually still giving IT light.

I I think you like you need to step back and like consider who who you have in your you know echo chAmber and why they're there because it's it's kind of gotten to a point where most of america, I believe, is like in some sort of like silent supporter, like silent echo chAmber, silent um silent um as like room where where they don't really feel safe to share what they actually believe, but they're kind just like flowing around. They kind of just going with the flow because they don't want to disturb anything, because really disruptive to disturb things. But if you do um you then you are evil and so I think everyone is super, super careful.

And there are some sort of like bystander culture effect where most people are are much more comfortable just sitting back and and not speaking out or being like note like actually what you just said was entirely evil and you probably shouldn't have a seat in the house or be a like of some sort of uh, real leader in in amErica or telling anybody anything for like more specifically talking on a podcast, talking on talk shows. Whatever you say, there does reverberate back into culture IT reverberate back into society and around the dinner table. So okay, maybe there's like one punchy person that you really like to listen to, but there that you know IT might not be right. Maybe you don't need to listen to them a it's it's kind of getting more like between other stories were talking about today is becoming more apparent to me that people just while some like you and us, we go between different sources and we like to find truth and like actually peace apart and like find something that's morally correct, like some people actually just sit back and listen and accept the realities of what some lunatics .

are telling them. I think you do you do with your article that that we publish today. I think box, you know you just got like, I hate to use a power to bill, like sunlight is the best defect that situation why you believe that someone .

is the best is effective number.

You bring pass plus like the you bring the, you bring the heat back and you like logically you you show you humanity them on on the in the discourse yeah I do think .

humiliation is an interesting word to use here because um I was entering Garcia Martina who first I think I saw writing about this in the context of school shootings and he was like, I have been key into the mean of IT already is something that I write about talk about but he talked about breaking the me with um like a humility ritual um you know the problem is that these people are seen as heroes to disaffected youth but if I was like a really embarrassing end for them IT maybe would end the cycle and I I do think like embarrassment and shame is flogged what public flogging a related topic um that I later popularized somebody say through the internet um no he was talking about actually a pretty nearly sort of like his idea was he was private chat S I should share IT 嗯 but IT was a different IT was A A different kind of humiliation of these people and um I don't like .

but what how humility them to because things are already they're done but other people are looking .

on the humiliation of them does is IT inverts the story about them that is perpetuating the act which is this um almost there are willingness but they're powerful like it's the it's the the trench coat mafia is um they seem in culture like powerful people and you see IT echoed in uh there is a show there is a show a call what is the the the in morphy hard show yeah american american story um I think it's season to the about a hundred hundred house season one season once and yeah they have a have a story about A A school shooter and the the school shooter it's like very columbine and Jason like he's like all in leather he's this bad as PK rock looking person but he was this nerd that turned into that and you see that echoed throughout our whole culture that is perpetuating that idea again and again and again again and that for someone who has no power is a story that you can access to feel powerful and so the way that you shatter that story is by inverting IT and um in making something shameful out of IT an embarrassing out of IT like the association of IT would make you not want to be that person like know the idea this is where I go back to my public flogged idea of the activist it's like well if their pants are around their legs their legs and they're getting banks and they're like you in themselves and crying that's not heroic looking anymore and nobody wants to associate themselves with that and maybe maybe IT breaks IT down maybe IT doesn't I say it's worth trying I giving a show powerfin meter yeah yeah you have .

you yeah you have to compete you I don't .

you can stop you can control the me you can you can introduce new memes into the discourse and and maybe they shatter the old one or or or read they push you back or something it's really I don't know I sort of think that we're in this new space of the way the world works like we lack language for a lot of the stuff is so new and we're living inside of IT that I think we don't quite know how to Operate inside of IT but probably the stuff that we're talking about now we will be really primitive and obvious in like twenty five years and like oh they have this problem going on and then they had to do X Y and the control I hope otherwise I mean maybe just maybe society ends of the polymer s going over a long time um public market thank you for paying us uh to do this work truly IT means a lot of the details of the wei man Jones arrest in possible motive for killing united healthcare CEO emerge new storylines and rumors are taking the internet by storm so Polly。

Market odds currently show a sixty eight percent chance that lui j used psychodeviant s based on reports from friends who say he explored them as treatment following a surfing injury whatever that's like tables kes at this point we've covered IT the more interesting one for me, the odds of the vg being gay stand at twenty eight percent. Uh, this has been driven ted by limited information about his personal relationships and speculation fueled by rumors. S, such as as possible attendance at the eras tour.

I agree that's pretty close to a smoking gun but the more important thing that um man would never have drafted into this piece here and that no one is talking about on police mark, is just the fact that I mean he has gay face and I don't know. I would like to introduce that evidence into the gay face. Gay face? Lug has gay face.

I think, what is gay face?

You I mean.

I don't know to describe you right now.

They just like, you know, you see.

that play was like, tailor.

I have no idea. I saw a bunch of means to that effect. I wasn't sure if .

he was actually how is the market resolve? Like what is the information on what IT resolves?

Like the gay thing, the gay thing here. I mean, a problem in to be. I don't know how resolves I would imagine.

Like you, I don't think, president, they can test this for IT. In like fact is logia Young guy.

I don't know. I going to resolve IT. I mean, I think if you find someone who had sex with him, you can believe me. Bi, I want to buy counts. People think he's bad.

I think he's bad if this buy oh, so I said as soon as his picture was released that this do is going to access the record for love letters written to him in prison because he's like attractive in people of murders. And now that if he's buy and he's getting letters from girls and guys, he's got that record easily like he's going be adored like he's already one of the most, like he's like a universal heart throw out already. If he has to post sexes.

that's crazy. I got info on how resolves and doesn't include bye xuan. He says market resolved to yes if IT is confirmed that he's gay or by by April thirty, twenty, twenty five, otherwise results no.

The source will be official statements from mangione, his legal representation and information released by law enforcement. However, consensus of credible reporting may also be used. Interest, I would I want to bet on this market seems like a, like a sketchy resolve rule to me.

He's the guy that we saw shooting, I .

know.

so I saw, just let me work up to IT. So I know that there are fingerprints now at the scene, the crime and the story evolves every, I feel like few hours. There's a piece of evidence. And right now, the latest one is there. There are some evidence linking him to the actual place of the crime.

They say this figure print on a water bottle or something I saw that you standing the guy who was standing there murdering the CEO, the gunshot guy like the gunshot happening um before I knew anything about the case, I thought that's a that's a professional killer that someone who was killed before he was the way he was standing IT was the certainty with the shot IT was the going up again and making sure he was dead um then I saw that smile and there were those weird other details. So the um the bullet casings that have the words on them, the monopoly money, that said to me that this is someone who was telling a story, someone who was incredibly intelligence, someone who was like the joker in a way, who really wanted us to be talking about this. They were trying to capture our attention. Clearly they have succeeded. Um that someone who is saying enough to do that uh and then I saw this ranting llama in his um in his orange jump suit.

And I thought that's not the same guy, that's just not the dude.

And the smile also like we were comparing the picture of when he was at his most good looking to loeg uh in that smiling the starbuck picture where he can see his smile and he looks like clean shape in and like like attractive yeah that was an you understood that connection but when you see him now um like this immediate holdout version of the person he wants was in prison that does not look like the person with the same joy for life that he had in that starbucks that people say, well, that's because he was caught, okay, but he wanted to be caught. He was in that mcDonald. He like wanted to be caught.

He never got rid of the gun. He SAT there with the gun and with his manifesto like, oops, Better take my manifesto to mcDonald, whatever I go. Like, who does that unless you want somebody to cash you and read the manifesto. And so I think that were IT could I don't know. I just not i'm not saying there that I feel feel I just think there's a chance they're not the same problem.

So i'm tracking that. Uh, I don't think the noses looks similar. I also noticed um and girls notice when you get your eyebrows done, IT takes a while to grow back like in in that one photo of him. I think like in the back of a car, something like that, like he had nice eyebrows and then the the mug shot, like he had a fall like almost unbroken like they grew in really fast and IT usually takes like seven and twelve days and I was only a matter of like four .

and wouldn't knew if you were the people in charge of this investigation and this identity was run away. Everyone got his name. Now they're all talking about.

They're completely obsess with this one person. I think you would be glad for that as you were trying to find the real killer. Um you would not want him to think that he a was being pursued.

You would want to think that he was safe and so maybe and then I want you to the the gay part i'm thinking of the movie scream and about to spoiled IT for anyone who has never seen IT before but in scream spoiler just like fast forward two minutes if you don't want to hear this there are two killers and it's an extremely hooroo relationship and you can tell that um you can tell that still is in love with Billy and that's why he went along with the sociopaths and this person feels like a mentally unwell person who perhaps wasn't love with a real tailor. Maybe, maybe, probably wrong, but if i'm right, i'm an genius. We're going to play this lip again and again and again forever. And if i'm wrong, whether going to tell what this lip again.

I got tweet that that, that offers an alternative take. We are talking about IT before recording, but let's read IT by Christian, a guji main, my favorite twitter. Follow the reason Lewis capture feels column cy and doesn't seem to make sense that they were tracking him illegally the whole time.

Now they have to reckon how they were able to find them, you know, like the feds like nowhere he was for like illegal reasons, right? Like they know where I am right now, probably facial recognition to tracking my iphone 的 GPS or whatever。 So I think that's the case.

Like like that looks really colum sy. You like planting on these evident. They're like that looks bad just because they couldn't.

They could not. That's the planting evidence thing.

Didn't know what is said that the .

number and the water bottle thing.

I don't he was I going to know where the thousand is cash?

Yes, but that's actually that the last Polly one last there's a nine percent chance they found a the money found on luigi was planted luigi's mp addressed this, stating, I don't know where any of that money came from.

I'm not sure if I was planned and also, that bag was waterproof so I don't know about criminal sophistication that to me it's nine percent people like, no, he definitely the money wasn't the money wasn't planned um why would he like about that? He and adding to the murder, why would like that? One random fact that doesn't make none of these details of this case makes sense to me. Ah this was like weird, bizarre thing after another bizarre thing now is pleading not guilty. It's like but you wrote a confession so what be doing here?

I don't get IT, we'll see the right. So he has a legal defense and there will be a trial and if um the press cover up to this point is any indication will be hearing a lot about IT know the story i'm here his side of the story.

the story think he's .

gonna say that he was like that he wasn't the killer and the killer still I think that the details of this rock.

he he is really not guilty to something and not sure exactly what is not plead not guilty to right now might have to do with some of the charges that were put on him in pennsylvania um which we're clearly just put on him to hold him there and that would have included like a gun charge and maybe the cash charge and maybe that's why he's doing IT. But I I don't he doesn't seem like someone who's gna lie about anything.

He certainly didn't lie about the health care exactly of whatever the manifesto is to believed to be true. I A stay tied, I guess moving on. Uh, there was another case, which crazy, they probably the main case we would have talked about this week.

If there hadn't, then this concurrently bubbling up on friday, which is a the Daniel penny case. Molly, take IT away. alright. So Daniel .

penny was acquitted monday of homicide in the chocolate death of Jordan neely, a thirty year old homelessness with a history mental, this manhattan D. A. Alan brag said he respected the jury verdict.

But this is also particularly controversial because he was thrown into the race wars really early on um which quickly also obviates the case, confusing people and causing more to just avoid IT altogether. Um and it's been interesting to see a like in the last couple of days people speak out and be like, no, he is a hero. Um i've been waiting. I've been like sitting on this and have not been speaking out about IT um which you I think I don't know. I think you might have been little bit closer to the byand er kind of culture that i've been thinking about recently. Um but it's just I I think we keep on finding ourselves in these tangled webs of conflicting narratives and really trying to make it's been hard define what the truth is unlike grasp ality because words invoking more distrust in anything that's going around us because there are so many different opinions where we can be confronted with plain evidence maybe maybe uh you know lui, I just gave us plain evidence and we are now trying to talk ourselves out to IT out of IT because were interesting but uh it's it's an interesting thing and I think um altogether like the case and i'd be curious for you your guys this takes the the case is kind of evolved where in the beginning I didn't I I didn't pay attention to IT but now that I you don't face with oh okay like it's it's OK read into IT now like all all look at IT but I was I was desperately of the camp avoiding IT early on I was .

obsessed the story from the very first moment that I was brought before I was brought when he just went to because of the moment IT went viral. The moment that happened, the story broke uh before they were charges and then alan bradley charges especially crazy because this is the program we're not going to charge criminals person who was concurrently trying to manipulate a presidential election by bringing charges against trump um which he never should have brought so it's the same exact dude and he's going after penny now for what are very obviously racially motivated reasons. And you know this because we ve seen similar cases in new york city.

George milliamp, for example, who I also defended who is a black man who defended his girlfriend from uh A A similar guy on the train he actually stabbed into depth so much more violent and dramatic than what penny did with the assistance, by the way, of another black man on the train who for some reason we are just not are talking we're not time at him at all um and so yeah really bother me I saw I saw just I think alan brig. Is a racist. I think that this was clearly done uh because of racism.

I think there's a giant racist mob that wanted to see penny killed because um are punished because he was a White person, a White man specifically who was also a military guy, who was also good looking, who also do this thing that we tend to see as heroic. There was a morally inverted response which was to go after him and a duck can of stuff drives me crazy. And once the case began, I was really nervous that he was going to become some kind of scapegoat for a sort of justice that was very popular a few years ago.

And he was not that has not stopped one piece of the story wanted to introduce three guys is um the B L M co founder who was outside or even in the court sort of getting up controversy throughout. We need some black violate. People want to jump up and choke us and kill us for being love.

How about we do the same when they attempt to all press us tired? Not only did he threat, he literally threatens pennies life. When penny left the court, he said, it's a small world buddy like this clear threat of amen to .

find you any the navy soo so like penny.

Yeah, no. yeah. Guess I can do anything but he's allowed he's allowed to do this in in our current warped sense of how the world should work like that a man because he's claiming grievance who's allowed to say whatever the fucking he wants to iran. A person in the street um make whatever threat that he wants and there he he did IT but he also said, um black people should be doing this to White people. Black people should be fighting back he suggested that black people should be choking out White people and um like people should .

be taken out crazy White people.

There should be craze person threatening your life. The racial the like race war agitation here is well IT is like disturbing and it's unhelpful and you hate that you want to to stop. You wanted to just not think about things that way anymore and then you realize the message didn't resonate.

And actually, there were riots. And most black people are looking at this the same way that we're looking at IT. And they're like that in crazy. We don't want to be killing. Ran a White people in the street.

Two black people helped penny, yes, a sub do the guy on the nearly on the train black and thanked penny, like on camera, like thinking and profusely for saving her life for and as much as we don't .

want to talk about joran illian s, they're really tried to make him not a part of the narrative. Everybody is on board there. And I think, you know, it's like black people, like White people live in these cities together and they see the violence and they don't want IT.

None of us want this. should. And so it's just like that style of agitation. I I, I feel optimistic, maybe I shouldn't, but I feel like that's on its way out. And we're allowed to call some of this stuff out for what IT is.

His son, media son, had another comment similar to the B, L, M guy, where I was just like, you're just a racist. Like many just hate White people, okay, like that. It's very clear that the only reason he wanted Jordan, he, that he wanted A A penny in prison, was because he was a White man who killed the black man, who killed the black man.

That turns out he actually kill him, right? That was this. Another detail IT was actually he was alive when the cop showed up and then they didn't do, uh C P R. Because he was dirty which is like, how is that not the only headline of this entire story um yeah yeah the .

the parallel to the um the mangani story here are like crazy because like um like after this verdict came out you had like people decline vigilante violence uh rep summer lee, I think that something like the history of this against black people or something, on the very same day some of those same leftist are celebrating the vigilante I violence of this guy who goes and kills the health care CEO. It's like do not see like the blatant hypocras y there.

I don't think they do. And also it's works like I don't see IT as a vigilante at all. Like he wasn't like we're going to punish this crazy person in the subway because he's crazy.

IT was like he's a threat to the lives of the people here. And we Better stop this, however we can. And then death was an accident that happened that, like, the death was an accident, the murder was not intentional.

IT was not the same as someone who hunts a person down with a gun and then shoots in multiple times from the back into the face. And they have to know this. It's like, I know that they know this.

There are just these. There just these, the antisocial luna, to want chaos. And they are going to find something to hide behind any chance they have. It's like there are people, I think we just have blood lost in the world, and that's not something that we tolerate in culture， is the expression of blood lost.

We wouldn't have survived as a species, I think if we had were a social approve social species because we don't tolerate IT um they don't often get a chance to express IT. But every now and then in this moment where someone really deserves IT, there is this there is this pro social function that exists in the group which is like this really bad person needs to be stopped. And I think that blood lust comes in. Its an evolutionary advantage. I think, okay, we can get rid of the people.

Sometimes we really have to in that dehumanization process is part of that is either in war, we do this in these moments, we do this when someone is really, really bad, like a mass murder, who we now need to publics cuter kick out of the tribe, whatever, and they kind of hacks that and hide underneath fit and um and now express their their honest opinion, which is, I mean, they just wanna people die and they they they do IT wherever they can. This is just one of the stories where they, the luigi wants. Specifically.

I wonder that if thomson had been black in Jordan, nearly had been White, what the reactions would be, I have to imagine, they would be almost exactly like reversed, like IT IT. Just goes to show you .

how much are are, are you being .

penny and nearly .

or on the subway? Yes, of course I would .

have been turned around.

yeah.

And nor there was another guy. Alba, have to hire a black CEO? no. Did yeah, I like think about the optics of that. If that would happened, I would have been a target racial killing.

I actually do think, I know, I think that we're out of that world. I think that that like the work, you saw that with the way that you you have these B L M terrorists I don't think all billion people are terrorists um I don't think that people who care about billiam is a moment which I think is very misguided our terrorists um I think this person outside calling for violence is a kind of terrorist and um this message is not resonating now people are not buying what he's selling anymore that says to me it's kind of over you know, he's going to be doing what Jesse Jackson did outside of courter or al sharpton rather did outside of courtrooms forever.

They are out there like trying to get a crowd and no one really cares. The mesage doesn't resonate. And then sometimes I just really does.

Well, i'm sure we will get to there again, probably like ten years now to be another cycle like this. But for now, I think we're out of the the racist um the racist mob stuff. I think again, I think maybe not. I think .

out of IT for now.

Hope so. I was crazy just in general how much the story got memory hold. Like as soon as the luiz stuff happened, like a this vertical was released and then pretty monumental. And then we find out the killers identity and just how quickly we memory hold.

This was pretty crazy. I wonder if it's because culturally, we're all on the same page with nearly and penny like we all. That's an old idea that we've worked through and hit every possible angle.

And you saw I was reading the york times come a peace on penny. And the piece itself was synthetic to nearly, and the commenters were not IT was almost universal. They they ignored what the times was saying, how they were editorialize zing within what was supposed to be reporting.

And they just all the most popular ones without with one exception, um were propense y this had to happen. If this didn't happen, that would have been an outrage. I was terrified this wouldn't happen.

We have to end the violence on our subways like we have to be safe but well, like people on the same page, whether this a the the legion thing is it's a new idea. Um it's classrooms are and we haven't done that before and it's health care and it's all it's like we don't have any anybody's to IT at all. And so it's just gonna much more it's going to be much stronger and it's going to kind of captivate culture in the way the other one came pending.

One also just really resonates because, I mean, I I think we all probably go in new york pretty frequently like it's that's a frequent occurrence. You're on a public transportation that supposed to be safe. It's like right there near and why you I went and why you i'd take the subway all the time.

Like there is kids taking. It's just like it's a real thing, like lunatics enter the train and you don't know what to do. And like how many chances do you think there are going to be someone that actually steps up and can not do the person? But I I saw, I think like .

that of politics. We are politics of trains in new york lake. People make IT a big statement to like job the turn styles like that's like some like charging people affair is like fascist. Where are the article you have that there .

was just an article about this?

Like people like they have like jump the turn style days and like it's just a bunch of antia people that think they are like lopping as really poor people who can afford the fair there said.

yeah, it's like this shouldn't exist therefore i'm not going to pay and there is it's done with self righteous ness yeah .

it's all around the train. Remember um you guys no show time? Yeah on the train .

I show think it's .

got show time. I was in for six years and you know one of every ten trains just like a group of like black boys that come in with a really loud boom box, and they like do like lips and stuff yeah, they do flips and should if we have to like, you're like the feeder got you are like getting kicked in the face like half of the time and you're supposed to like, you're supose to like, think it's good, you know.

But everybody is just like this fucking sucks. I didn't I don't want this person dancing really close to my face. And then they go around asking for money afterwards. I think that I think there was a controversy at one point where somebody complained about IT like some journalist was like the show time, like socks, you know and that like became a raced war like right away. And um I guess my points to say is like I think there's a pattern here with trains and new work, weird like races, like race war.

like stuff yeah because it's interesting, right? It's because the train is a place in york specifically that everyone comes together, including rich people. People take the subway because it's faster than a cap to go up to.

There's no traffic, right? You're underground. Um and so it's the great equalizer and we're all in the same space.

And so you do have these moments. I think it's really interesting. Um another interesting thing are these giant drones that are hovering over the state of new jersey. We do have to talk about before we move on to the the pirate idol segment. Um I would just premise by saying no one was closer to earlier the story than my mother.

Who can we find in?

I was I was he was very good. Like I don't you bring me up at all on the segment because I think I need to be taken seriously and no one's going there that you're joking.

Further record are not serious. We are taking seriously.

You were right about the story I was ignoring because it's not it's so crazy and now IT seems like it's there's actually likes to IT. It's been growing and growing as a story and uh brand and want to tell us what's going on.

okay. There have been large mysterious drones reported flying a reports of new jersey in recent weeks um and they appeared to avoid detection by traditional methods such as helicopter in radio according to a state lawmaker that uh was brief ed on wednesday but the department of homeland security um assembly woman dawn fantasia described the drones as up to six feet in diameter.

And sometimes travelling with their light switched off the FBI and hearing recently as they don't know what they are but have been investigating IT. And we've asked residents to share any videos, photos or any other information that they have, one of the representation representatives from the FBI said, um are we concerned that there are a ferrous intentions that could cause either an actual security or public safety incident? There is nothing that is known that would lead me to say that, but we just don't know.

And that's the concerning part of IT um somebody from the U. S. Coast guard uh, in new jersey told the associated press that multiple low altitude aircraft were observed in vicinity of one of our vessels near island beach .

state park that's where i'm from, by the way. Sometimes it's it's .

next door okay a pentagon spokesperson, uh, spring SHE, told reporters on wednesday that our nature assessment here that these are not drones, our activities coming from a foreign or adversary, there's a mean going around that like the drones are from a iranian mothership. drone? yeah.

yes. Congresses, yeah. And then there's a boat outside of new jersey that's controlled by iran um recently. So I think there is some misinformation about the state of emergency. Um there is no state of emergency but a new jersey state senator has called for a limited state of see that happened on tuesday surrounding the drones.

And so what is this? What do we think they're like far? The government said, not foreign. They're not ours. I think they look like you .

have posed to me their plans. They're mostly plants, even there is random. I ve looked at the photos and it's a literally a plane.

I don't want to believe their planes.

They are all planes like there are almost one percent of them a lot so I think I ve looked I is probably spent to wait in line, actually just roll in the time line um for a search for drones, new jersey germs, right? So I saw all the videos, right? And like none of them are not playing or like they're not C G.

I like one of them shows you ve probably in you may have seen a video uh or IT does appear to be like a smoky looking thing without any lights but you can see IT selected against against the background moving like slowly um I found out that that's actually from like a chinese tiktok that like specializes in C G I. Um another one you see poems uh in the area and one of the communities like this can be a new jersey because is no palm trees in new jersey, which I think probably too true um you know you see a red light, a Green light and a large Normal color White light. And and I was looking up like F A regulations and because like planes have to have these lights, yeah, and planes literally have to have a red linking light, a Greening blinking light and a orange light, or like a White light.

So what I think this is, is like mysterium is upset as media duce historia. And you know, another big media, do historia event happened new jersey as well. And that was one thousand nine thirty .

eight with the O G U, F.

I one yeah or .

so yeah.

So his story started a new jury. Like, that's where the alien evasion takes place. And reporting is like the reporting kind of induce the idea that actually wasn't that much historia, but the report exaggerated the amount of historic there was which created more historia. And uh ultimately, like I think it's it's been there's been a lot of misinformation about this event that wasn't actually people weren't freaking out, was just the media like freaking out about IT and making a big deal and nothing. So I I think that's what's happening here. There's another video of like you see like these lights, you know like going all sorts of different directions and that turned out to be like a like long exposure um and the camera was picking up to satellites in the atmosphere so I have yet to find one of these videos that actually looks spooky like spoke .

I I I my assumption was they were Jones from like maybe forever intelligence we know that the chinese also what's happening right now, you said share the link and slack yesterday we have chinese spy that was california for flying drones over mile base. I believe .

that um .

but I think that was that kind of adjacent to that. But I saw that one of the sizes, someone said that the dry with the .

size of cars or something yeah and like, you can judge distance very well, especially at night like this is literally playing like.

well.

I don't believe this. I don't I believe their drones. People are saying that they felt like right above. I'm telling you all the stuff that i'm believing from the internet because I want to believe drone.

What's um so what i'm seeing out there, this is in this .

is truly insane.

They are like, they're huge. They are the size of S U V. They look like just like military grade drones. Also by they are very expensive, like some hobbies like these can arrange anywhere from like you know like five hundred k like three million. Some like really expensive military ones are like up and like four hundred million was crazy. But they look, they look like IT and the videos s that I see like they are just hovering there and then they just kind of glide away and it's not like a plain that's one direction, but they just move around and they're just hovering in all these different places, play like pretty close to each other um and I wanna know what they are.

I mean, maybe I I won't seen those. There is one really hilarious thing that I keep things going around. You don't know if you guys i've seen that, but it's like, do I have a it's a screen shot.

It's like the guy saying, finally, we have the first clear picture of a drone. I don't have IT and it's like it's actually is the funniest thing because it's a picolet ted picture that is of a screen. So it's like somebody taking a picture of a screen. First off, it's not clear at all.

And yeah yeah.

it's it's really like you .

can see the size the .

this is clear like and yeah I think I I don't know.

I am well I look so whenever there's A U.

I P thing I go to mick west and like everybody hates mick west, but he's like the d bunker um of U F videos. And he is a specialist in optics and cameras. And I think that actually gives you a really good background for understanding, uh because like most of these things are like artifacts of a particular type of camera or the way that optics work. And yeah, I would just encourage any any time a hysteria like this goes around. Just struck out Michael west.

who do you think started the text chain in new jersey?

I think I think I just .

started IT was local outlets because when I I looked into this yeah week ago and there was all just local like a fox ifill's in some part of new jersey was like I heard reports of this .

thing and and not like josh holly and Martin Taylor Green are in leg. I feel like they are they're doing like political points .

no there there like they're like drag queen. I really see them that way. It's all theater in the they are like we are going to have a hearing. Josh is the one that just did the where he dragged the airplane executives to talk about how uncomfortable their seats were and should like this you like, you know that everybody is airplanes .

because he would go viral on twitter yeah.

later now here's him .

talking about will show IT sorry. Look, that's the drone for holy holly is talking about this drone. It's got a fucking red light right next to IT. It's a goddam airplane. It's airplane going away from the camera.

So bring if they are just playing, why do none of the government in the area like know what they are? What they came for does like.

I don't like A I I don't know what their communication strategy is, but their their planes. And why is the spread is is so conservative coded to me?

I don't know. U, F, S. Are conservative coded. And for two reasons. One is national defense, which is classically conservative voted, not new conservative voted.

And then two is you're not supposed to talk about IT culture and that's like that was right wing thought up until five minutes ago. And so that's how I think U F. S.

became. You saw all these stories that were like caring about UFO is right wing and it's like let's make one of those people. But also, it's slightly true now because if you're on the side of culture that is subcultural, which is what we're conservative thought was you have become a kind .

of like .

a metaphor for for that for some people. And I think to project things about the government exactly and censorship, you are able to 啊 message those things that as an effect。 I love that what's happening now, and I also don't think most people thinking aliens, I think mostly what .

was .

happening in jersey with people were like .

chinese people. I wanna anger Cathy S, I know that duck be disastrous for me um carey SE but if I believe you a strongly .

worded that letter um okay well that's that for now I am I have a feeling will be revisiting the drum story next week.

I know the way the F A had like he he stepped down so he's out because .

of I bought you.

Lets say too, I love the consent.

Let's just say, you know, the federal .

aviation administration to resign following trump pick so he's a lot. No, this is unrelated, I think. But mabe mabe maybe right.

Well, that's enough of that. It's time to move on to parallel.

And we are back to the greatest show on the internet. It's pirate. I don't we've got Jessie returning. We've got Patrick returning.

Moe's actually not in the competition right now, but I should note he is also in prior idle SHE just happened to be la. So SHE joined us in the studio. Why not um as we discussed earlier in the in the episode let's I use we lots to cover here.

We have two great topics for idol this week that I actually there are like regular topics I want to talk about. We are with Patrick kick IT off. We need to talk about canadian statehood. There are lot going on. Tell us, tell us what's happening.

The most important issue of our time and the biggest threat to the power's business model you guys going to have to get rid of you make the moon, the fifty first state and replace with canada. Uh, surveys to be a last month a trump threatened to impose a blanket twenty five recent tariff on all products from canada next ago unless the countries uh, took action. Occur below h drugs and I guess unauthorized migrants and everyone to call IT.

Um honestly not kind of a real issue from canada. I look at the numbers, I think the number of fence are coming from mexico. S like a thousand times war or whatever, the whole things very funny. So IT doesn't matter.

Um and then when they a grab dinner and our logo trudeau and tram, he currently joke that if trudeau can afford the terrace then perhaps can not to become the fifty first stay um and then trump this past we double down on tree social calling him governor Justin trudeau of the great state of canada. Um so I think many ways this is kind of a replay what happened during his first term. So there was like a long trade war which ended up.

And I think mexico, canada, the U. S. Uh, making a deal on the sanctions went away or the the taps away.

Um I think what's different now is the entire kind of canadian political landscape has one eighty. So like back then, there was really no serious conservative political opposition. Now they have the apple guy, the guy I was a name, and another, like extraordinary ily successful. That's when I just going to call for now on the apple guy.

Powerful, I agree.

And then they in polls. And, uh, trump is now more popular than trudeau, apparently. So trudeau has a twenty three percent approval rating by canadians and trumpet twenty six percent approval ating h, which is kind of insane. And then they also did a poll after his comments, and thirteen percent of canadians, twenty one percent of conservative canadians, want to become the .

fifty first day. So this is, I am my .

first .

thought on this story, was like a lot of joke back when they a maroo go the fifty first stay common. He was very sort of, if you don't like IT become a stated, everyone had a good laugh. And then he made that comment about should retaliated on the trade stuff.

He made some comments. I think that's the real missing piece of the story. He sort of collapsed back about tariff S I think that who knows, maybe necessarily have no idea was going on the scenes.

Truck hears this. And a little after midnight releases that statement that that posts on true social about him being the governor of canada. And that was the first time where I thought, like, I thought I was a joke. But i'm not entirely sure now where this is going, and neither is IT seems, the canadian government.

The very next day I saw this woman, who I think runs the Green party in canada expressing that he felt a little threatened by the statements and um and a little digging to see see how relevant SHE was IT turns out I think there are twenty two thousand people in her party so the woman did not speak for canada and this is when I started wondering how many canadians to actually do want this. One thing that's very important that we should if we can find a chart of this, we should pull IT up. There's a really interesting population density map of of the state of canada.

And you'll notice that all of the population of canada is right on the border of america. They earn, they learn to be american. They are literally as close to amErica as they can be without being american. In fact, many of them are further yourselves.

Then people in like seattle and what not because uh the great lakes region is uh at least the canadian territories in the great lakes reason is further erself than like uh what is IT the seattle or or what's the the N T for one poor land. So like we do like there are planned eth canadians that are already kind of in our territory. I think I don't know. I am open to canadian say to what you guys what do you make of this one?

I don't have an opinion. Seems funny or fall. Is that canadian .

on their side? The reason is trash because we see their bullshit. We see their like little tiny town and our side is a national park. So they get the beautiful view.

Their side is being subsidized by the U. S. government. So that's .

why it's much re. Countries besides by the us. Government, the entire idea of canada is a farce.

And i'm not just saying this to be a joke totalling I actually really mean IT. They're not defending themselves. They don't have a military.

The concept of small population .

that's like really peaceful and cares a lot about like in like they're always talking about in in what is h land knowing, acknowledged in the people trudeau famously doing, they like IT was like two X, L, L, G, B, T, Q plus whatever play pride month like that is a populist that could only exist if they were being treated like rule. Teenagers are living in someone's backyard. That's not if amErica wasn't there, they would just be invaded.

They were no longer exist. They're already basically in american territory. All of their ship is basically our, we just allow them the delusion of living on their own. And I think it's just probably I started really thinking about IT this week.

And the more I started thinking about IT, the more I thought like they're not gna be a country forever that that does not make any sense long term. I mean, I think five hundred years from now, there's no way they're not a state. So it's really just a question of when do we start that process. I think we could be nice about IT, but probably sooner than later, very good.

I think IT would be great for america's energy. Yes, dependability because okay, so I have like all these stats about IT, but sixty percent of U. S.

Crude oil imports are from canada. Eighty five percent of U. S. Electricity imports are from canada as well. Canada is also the largest foreign supplier of steel, aluminum, uranium to the U. S.

And has thirty four critical minerals and metals that the pentagon is eager for and investing, uh, investing for, for national security. About a third of canada's trade to the us. energy.

And let's see nearly three point six billion canadian dollars worth of goods and services cross the border each day. So IT would be great for us as we continue to go down this A I ravi hall at all these other kinds of things to fortify the U. S. If we just buy IT and well, not buy IT, let's just, let's just take IT, but peacefully acesulfame answers IT back to us.

There is time for canadians to come home that that .

what we're frame is actually solution for a rare earth materials processing. Since since they all live really close to the U.

S. You if we take .

over canada, we can do all the dirty materials processing, like near the artic circle where nobody cares.

We could technical do that. You'll ask now and ever stop doing IT. So I want to, through something else kind of prohibiting us there.

like have the regulations.

the regulations, well, that's like. So the other thing, if we actually what patro did you say the percentage was of, uh, conservative canadians who want U. S. Citizenship.

twenty one percent.

The numbers going up. alright. I think it's it's inching up. I think that the main thing from what I can read of the disco, that the main reason canadians don't want IT is just health care. They like their health care.

And I think probably a lot of people feel this way. I think this is like the Greenland thing to the european thing. It's like the one thing you just can't really abide, bi, is just the concept of our health care system into that. I say i'm willing to switch up our health care system at this point. Fuck IT like I am .

over IT I I don't think it's what did he say? He he agreed to the proposed anxian, the condition that we adapt to the a canadian heth cares are the canadian .

health care system. I in unGreen canada, and we switch up our health care system. I don't like the idea of a single pair system.

I do like the I fun. I'm open to doing. I'm open to doing. I'm open to doing like national option for people who want in.

And you can go and you can buy something Better if you want IT provided. Now I left IT without the bargain to see. This is process.

This is how should work. We're canada. We're body standers. Here's what I want from you, but we have to ban the depiction of borba obese people in target marketing.

Materials like that can no longer be celebrated, so we can no longer be celebrating. You don't like this idea. You you like them is IT like, I think it's great.

yeah. So I think that I think I am fine approaching the world of health care in some sense. And I this is a much longer conversation to be a whole part, I think.

But we have to rethink the way that we are approaching health as a nation like cultural things like this. So we want to discuss there I think the canadians would and I mean it's really they don't want to be stuck in the frozen wasteland of canada. They have two good cities and then whatever he is happening in the french part, no really knows or cares um they want to be able to go to L A.

They want to be able to go to new york work or work in sanfords isco. And like we want that too. They're already basically americans are culturally almost that they have funny words, but like they're american you know, people in boston have funny words.

They are american. They're knowing, but they are american. We can make this work. I think we can make the work.

They also bring a lot of great talent. U S, yes, very talented. Justin bieber .

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a canadian action. I. I think that like we need to not we make a joke with canada but I think it's an eyes joke mostly is because IT makes women like that Green party president or whatever he is the leader of its so angry you know I just that's a quote.

There's a kind of a kind of person. I like to Peter, but I love the canadians. I love canada, I think is a beautiful country. Up in the vancouver, we do an event for founders went up in the sala sound. It's got the desolation sound is called in up there, stunning, beautiful, like a reinforce .

yeah all that's rainforest .

yeah it's the same if the same as down in new zealand and there's a rain bars on, it's like it's a similar biome. It's interesting as when you're there, they look the same. I've hiked to the milf track the the problem anyway. Can the last lots on this before we move on to our our next topic?

I think the perfect sign of the vibe shift is like how little freak out there was to this, like tweet from trump like remember when he was like talking about buying the Greenland thing? Just how much like legacy media has in twenty yeah yeah in the now it's like that outrage was like so muted and granted, there was a lot of other things going on .

the new they're trying to destroy psychological anymore yeah in twenty six cent they were trying to fucking like make them kill mp yes, they wanted turn to kill themselves. Yeah are buying now. And now I think like he's like way more powerful and it's not happening.

Will also the yes, I agree with that. Like they were sort of in response, kind of broken by him. Yeah but the Greenland thing was also see the anything I don't think I think I could be wrong, you know I might be wrong maybe but he doesn't seem serious to me.

The the Greenland thing is was an actual proposal he actually attempted IT. I I know some of the guys who are working on that with him and what they said was the league killed to the deal. They were making progress and they felt there was a chance that Greenland was going to be a territory of the united states.

And once IT leaked and the whole world freaked out in the demarkation like population, the the citizens of them, mark t. Involved, and when they were man, there was an up for there. He killed the deal.

But I think that was actually possible. And that's why people really freaked out. The canadian canadian states did not seem possible. But now the more I like think about IT and joke about IT, I think it's actually not is a possible think IT is inevitable, maybe not truly, maybe not over the next couple of years. But I think long term, that's not a country. So it's just like let's just call this space that's it's like it's going to be a part of the the greater american empire.

How do we fit IT on our map, on our flag?

What people are talking about that as well, I don't know. The new states, they could be a territory and we can put their population is already on the board of america. They can to be part of the other states that all of what is IT toronto can be like. I don't know what is up there is IT are the you're like ohio or may you get something like just redraw on that state to include that? And then the just .

where the population is actually and .

senate done something on you can keep your health care like maybe we will even let them change of their gun laws. We're now in charge of their immigration because they're fucking insane about immigration.

And yes, so like .

trudeau .

is like cracking down on IT now now after his people. But now I like a third of their country is not born in ada.

even exaggerating. It's an insect number of people. But you understand the difference of of canadian perspective and immigration, like you understand how hard they had to work for those numbers.

There is no border. People is walking to america, canada. They have to fly there. So they are they're like bringing flights in, like they're importing IT, like it's like they're a busy four of coffee or something like we need that over here. I will understand that I never gotten IT, but um I mean, that's just like it's a very specific kind of White person. You know we all know .

that we come from we should do a Greenland episode, by the way.

Yeah I agree. I think it's a travis y that .

denmark's Greenland like that that's so random denmark he had to hold over from a different time yeah anyways .

how years ago? whatever. But we're moving on two. Uh the note that I have here is antipa chick wants police but I think IT is actually I think the actual story has to do with A A defined activist who um got robed, which is a heart warming story .

just in time for Christmas. Jessie, take away. Thank you. There was A A favor tisco woman. Her name is Darcy bell. SHE went viral on x this week, and it's because he turned to the platform seeking assistance. A because her rented duhl truck had all her belongings, and IT was fin.

Now someone might say, why is this going by role? And we hear about his crime and services go, well, IT just happens. Our girl, Darcy, is a defund the police advocaat, a pretty well known one, actually.

But I gotto say, like to her credit, SHE did stay strong in her convictions, and he did not call the police. He went to x SHE, called you call and was a gas that you have pointed her to the police. So clearly this was not the answer that he was 来。

Um and as you can imagine, I had to fall day with the story of lots of comments of the variation why did you call a social worker for help? Um my favorite comment, maybe a social worker can help her adjust to life without things and on and on. But like I said, SHE saved really sharma her convictions.

SHE has posted nothing to indicate remorse for her previously found the police return. Uh, SHE is now calling this the uhl chronical. This is so this is like break news stall.

So last night SHE posted, the truck has been found with a pole asking who found IT? The options were the boys in blue twitter vigilantes saying, Christopher you hall bounty hunters and twitter vigilantes is in the lead at forty five percent SHE will not tell us. So this is, I think she's gonna milk this publicity, it's gonna ep going.

And then today SHE posted an update saying, would you believe that if I told you, you hall pays a revolving band of bounty hunters to search for their strolling bans? So she's like missing the block here he sees nothing wrong of you believe. When I saw the story, my reaction was walls.

Like, this lady deserves to be trolled. A X to your thing. And yes, SHE does not see anything wrong.

Previous ways I do. You agree, though, that the idea of you hall paying a roving band of bounty undresses very interesting. We should do a story on that if that's truly not just the invention of a drain ed leftist bisto from the cisco.

That's too that you don't know this when you sign the paperwork. I don't know like that you would be looking for that when you sign the paperwork. But that could also be an interesting thing to look at.

The king like that sounds a little violent for me. I wouldn't have signed the paperwork had I known that they would also go out and find my stuff if I was stolen. This is a kind of person who feels vague suicide to me.

Do you know like? This is like someone who just wants to die that's really wants to live like like that's just what's happening here and we're already here trying to rationalize IT or justify IT. And um I think that's because they had so much power and twenty twenty member, it's like you couldn't even talk about the fact that writing was happening and seemed to you where you were sitting quite bad. You know you get attack for that and that's because these people we're stupidity giving jobs in media and controlled culture for a minute but that's over and now we can just look at them for what they are which is um you know people who have some kind of mental illness that should be paid certainly their kids should be pitted SHE is children um but .

I hope children on the post so in addition to her not at all acknowledged that her death on the police is the wrong passage like how dare people be rooting for my children's things to be stolen before Christmas right? Which kind of a fear point but again, she's just like you will see anything but the obvious of .

course it's good.

Patrick.

I kind of admire IT.

I mean, when I when I think of this woman, I think of the japanese soldiers after over two who are still fighting the jungles of the age and like you know, they have a sense of honor they refuse to to amend it's it's like the people who are still wearing masks .

and trying twenty four ah you .

know yeah she's got he was massed up.

I didn't see that SHE says SHE has those fucked up and yeah he has those those like those those fucked up communist things you talking about like like yeah the super sure they looked like almost cheap like you like .

that girl in that .

what's that movie about? The it's the south african movie about is IT l chappy or something? The it's like a robot or was in an .

alien l chappy. It's by a new new bloom cannet or something yeah the end word also a great .

new dog in where those banks come from.

Yeah, I thought you .

were going to do a real housewives salt like city reference there of the banks I had to about.

I mean, I could make IT, but I don't know that my audience is ready for that. I we maybe will come back to IT. Really you are Better say something I was .

going to say like we we talk about feeling sympathy for this woman and I do I I because I think we all sort of like deal with our politics in the abstract. Like I, for example. Like I would, I think a lot people should be deported.

Would I like to be the person who goes up to a family from venezia land as you have to go back now? So like I do, and that's not the same as the scenario, but I do sort to feel for her, at least in the slightest bit. Nevertheless, though, I do so hope he sees the error in her ways and realizes that we should not defend the police. But I do sort of feel her, if ever so slightly. Well.

spoiler, SHE will not figure that out. SHE will not always. We have people. There is the famous case in oakland of there was a woman who was killed, actually, and he was a defined activist. This happened a couple years ago before the vibe shift. A SHE was a murdered and that the stealing thing is easier for me to be like, you know, what is that that some since that like that kind of energy murder is tough for me. And even I don't think that he should be killed as because he was this dumb White Baker who thought that, you know, he wanted to help this made up group this anyway, I don't think you should die.

I don't think any these people should die like genuinely and feel completely actually not the way cause your courted the guy actually don't think that I don't want to see kind of violence um what the internet did and they went in hard and we're like you deserve this. But then her friends would not work with the police to prosecute the person responsible. And IT was on ground that they felt that SHE wouldn't wanted that.

And that's where did you go back to the suicide of thing, the whole thing. IT does feel as if maybe the western world has this kind of kill switch. And the lot, these people just they don't want to live and they certainly want us to live.

I me that's been established, but I think they don't even want themselves to live. And that maybe the more important thing that's where this is, that's what's driving on this. Like anti it's only the anti western.

It's it's like it's ante self interested. It's it's anti existence. Um they don't want to be here and we see that never came from the way they have.

No is that .

it's a medical term.

It's like the whole thing of a peak kids. We grow up in clean environments and the having more problems, like i'm very much a victim of this, I think that applies socially too. When you grow up in a very rich, prosperous country with very few problems, you just kind of come up with your own problems, both mentally and physically and environmentally and everything else.

And I think so many these people, not to say that theyve all had easy lives, i'm sure some of them grow in hardship and poverty and things like that. But like in a world with no obvious problems for them to solve their things, for them to work on, they've just kind of resorted to the same perpetual loop social justice. Um even the previously receiving my tredah is the same thing like his way of clipping back to truck was uh giving a speech about how come losing was uh an attack on a female progress. Um they just can't get out their their .

looks way but on that so i'm so glad you raised IT i'm so glad you raised that clip where he starts talking about feminism. This is I saw today this morning so I think this the trudeau is talk trudeau, the prime minister of canada, or stop to say the governor of the great state of canada. He is talking about the issue of feminism and he brings up the fact the commoner Harris the second, uh, he said he like he said, you know, we thought we made such progress, but then commute Harris, you know, the second female candidate for presidency, loses the election. IT shouldn't .

be that way. IT wasn't supposed to be that way. We were supposed to be on a study, if difficult, sometimes march towards progress.

And yet, just a few weeks ago, the united states voted for a second time to not elect its first woman president. Everywhere, women's rights and women's progress is under attack. And and subtleties. But I want you to know that I am and always will be a proud feminist. You will always have an ally in me and in my government.

And I thought I might even mad about this stupid idea that um someone should be elected because of their sex. Let's table that for a second and focus on the fact that he used the word we he is talking about the united states of amErica and he used the word we. Okay, this man hates america.

But like all leftists, uh, he hates america. Like all american letice, he sees himself as american. He knows that he's american.

He I think at that point I saw the video. I thought, actually no one thinks there are american citizens more than canadians. On some level, they all understand it's true and inevitable.

And I think that canadian state is coming. And this is why I just like, he was like, one more data point once, like, holy shit, this is way. This has legs. In a way, I did not realize .

I had legs or he and tram party made a background deal and he let IT slip. He accident.

said, it's possible. The other unna things, people think that he's the sun deco, a cuban. Let's go back to cuba for a second.

OK, yeah, let's go back. That's another part of the world that should simply be american. That's cube is going to be a state. That's my ultimate and my big my, you know.

is cuba a territory or not? It's not right. No.

it's to call me .

this country. But why aren't love to go?

Because we've been embargoed for sylum, but we're getting rid of that. We're taking that back. We were on the path to statehood before the communist st.

Took over. And um we're going to it's like it's a small the cubans in miami want IT, I want IT. Um IT tactically makes a lot of sense. I think they're sugar. There are probably I mean, I can make some kind of give me a week and i'll think of um a rational reason for but but but mostly I just think that IT just feels correct to have cuba, to have canada, to have Greenland, to have moon and then I mean and then I think we opened IT up. What you could do is you could .

um except applications .

franchise, we understand .

into the same people just .

forget that we like have a claim out there. I was thinking about that for um ah what was the phillipines we had and then gave up for some reason. Yeah don't know why we did that.

There was a movement to get rid of IT. Yeah only eight hundred.

There's I think the next one is going to be people going to try this is what you going to see over the next few years, people going to come for hawaii. They're going to trying they want us to lose hawaii as a state. And it's like we got ta go on the other the absolute other direction.

We should not be losing states or territories we should be acquiring. And I think it's a peaceful way to do IT. And I think should you lay IT down for us, I think there probably was a background p deal because I would want to believe that and and maybe IT was about like lisa truck, we'll do this, but you're not going to reveal what you know to be true about my father's reign. Ty, as a conspiracy theory by away editors note or legal note.

he does look so much like and though, but fdl castle son looks so much like him, the resemble is like, especially him around that age.

You're talking, yes, yes, I am. Do you guys know? I mean, are you familiar .

with something?

Note said his mother had a idea with foodful.

Well, like what ever says there to support that?

IT literally just they look like I think right .

um I did know there is more than that. I seen people, girl, there are people who are i'm not like A I don't focus on after doo. I'm a great fan of his black face.

Not in terms I think life faces, right just in terms of like what that game to the culture of that he is the prime minister of canada at the height of B L M was like on uh he was taken out of the closet as a enthusiast like um you know I love that, but that's kind of the height of what I know that in the fact that he said these stupid things this week is pretty much what I know about him. Um there was a fun. Now we have to get in .

to show where are the end of this offer. When is like why is the president for so long like one is their .

elections so like IT seems like he's been president for going to be that cooky .

the apple leader, it's going to help. Yeah who is?

He's cool. Not his. I like him. I don't think he's gonna a friend of, I think you've a friend of hours and so far were friendly to him. But I saw him talking about terrorists before trudeau embarrassed him in his nation this week, embarked himself in his nation this week.

Apple guy was talking about IT in terms of like, look, truth is going to do whatever best for the united states and that's what we should do as well and he was a very hard and kind of approach to IT wasn't like, I love that trump makes a lot of good IT was very just realistic about the end of global ali m in the rise of nationalism and how you interact as nation states um in a world of increasing nationalist sentiment. I've heard similar things from micron who I have much more people compare him to trudeau because I think they're both like attractive Younger guys. There is something similar to look, but micro is not that micro.

I think a much more interesting in commanding politician and a real a leader of a real country um with a real history that has real importance in the world and um he has said similar things about trump and is approached trump, I think in a similar way and I think that that is the future. And if this guy wins, which I hope the sake of canadians, he will I don't know that, that will bring us closer to canadian data. I think that actually will bring us further apart because he will be more competent and he'll be more nationalist and he'll be more self interest in this nation. It'll be a Better leader.

And he won't like to bank the truckers.

though. He won't depict the truckers, I think will have very friendly terms, uh, and you know, that border able soft and will become defect of the same country again, which I guess we kind of still are just, I don't know, I do like the idea of people.

I means that happening steadily over the last twenty years, right? Like whenever you apply for a global entry or crew check was like that other option called nexus, whatever, which is basically canadian U S. recheck. We've can just drive across the border like I think that has been slowly opening up more and more less ten.

fifteen years yeah and really sickly. I think that is how all joking aside, we do become the same country is just this gradual breakdown of differences until people actually forget that they're not even the same country. Um and I think we should do that.

I think that I think the canadians should upset IT IT feels weird to me that canadians can just come here and work. For example, they are like, you talk to a canadian and it's like, this is where the same thing you get is where the culturally we are exactly the same. And should that border should not exist, that's my note on canada.

Save them, liberate them, bring them home. Uh, Jessie Patrick, final thoughts. I feel like .

this was a great lesson and optimism like only twenty twenty one percent of canadians were like, we want to be amErica and you're all like, yeah, done deal. We got IT. So thanks for that.

So what you it's like so what you're saying is there's a chance .

my final thoughts, make the moon the fifty first state they already have earned that title pie virus is planted, that flag in the ground make canada the fifty second .

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