Destroying Statues & Wearing Shorts In Congress | PIRATE WIRES EP#15 🏴‍☠️
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I don't I don't even know what to say about something so crazy. Welcome back to the pod. We have the honestly legendary, comfortable ly smog with us today.

I met him online years ago. He is the host of the ruthless pod, which is now the leading political podcast. But as I was just telling him a second god think he just said, it's now beating a pod. Save america. What is what is the one to beating?

That's right. Bet said on the charts. Really proud of that one.

Yeah, for me. I mean, in my heart, you beat them many moons ago.

Thank you so much.

I me of course thank you for coming. Um I spent a long time coming. I think we have a pack sure today.

First of all, before I get into all the different topics were going to be covering um apologize for this strange environment and i'm travelling in a lot the next few podcasts will be hoping around stealing or or rather sort of uh what is IT when they what is the the couch surfing thing i'll be surfing from office to office um but the topics of the day okay we have the statues of our founding fathers in york city being taken down. We have the john veteran dress code debate co. In the senate.

We have comfortable sg, smog is just going to lay down the hand by entity ment in sort of the evolution of that, for which I think is fascinating. River is going to lay down the details of his latest piece for pie wires, which follows job ad in tech hubs. From this is funding from the chips.

Bill is now being spread around the country and we are going to apparently create uh, safe for cisco's in every single state. Multiple, multiple safran. Ces goes in in in several states across the country and we have deemed pressed in the city supervisor of sand Frances go, who is all of our favorite ite, uh, his advice for the city in terms of combatting car break ins, which is simply to stop putting stuff in your car.

Um let's just get IT to IT right at the top. This statue thing is something that feels stupid almost to care. It's a statue.

you. I shouldn't care about this. I cared about this a lot. I have cared about this forever. I've cared about this.

So twenty twenty, the summer of twenty twenty, is the first time that this issue for me really became, uh, alarming, and that something was happening that I felt was unthinkable. IT was was crazy. I was in the head.

I was, no, I was the summer of twice, twice. This is, this is the summer in which riding was legalized. And he was a sort of general like that man.

Ask Christopher milans batman. Ask chaos in every direction. Uh, and as I SAT in my apartment in the heat, I followed the news on twitter of these sort of roving mobs moving around, tearing down status. The backdrop behind that these were statues of.

reportedly, evil sort of.

they were american historical figures, but they were evil for some crime. Rather typically, racism was the one that we would sort of swar around. IT was always some sort of strange and bigger connection to slavery.

Famously, the statute of bully as grant was torn down in serving this goal, which is ABS on grounds of racism, which was especially crazy because he fought against the south, like about his main thing, was waking the civil war and freeing the fucking slaves um but that's where we were in twenty twenty backdrop is you had all these confederate statues and, uh monuments being targeted and the argument was, uh the argument from the people who wanted to preserve IT was like, this is a part of our history. And if we start here, if we take these status down, what's necks is is going to be George washington. And if we said, no, that's crazy will never be George washington.

Um IT was always going to be George washington. George washington collect the main when they want to get rid of and here we are fast forward to today. Ah and I don't know, it's like this is happening in new york city.

Uh, the sims of city council has decided that they are very close to the test. The ability is going to take down the status of washington and and jeopard. That .

eats me up.

man. Like I am unpassed about this and I I don't want be I don't be angry. I want to find the levity here, but this is just feels IT hurts, right?

Like those are those are that that's our legacy. That's that's what amErica is as our history. That's something that we should be proud of. Uh, I don't know how we kind of persist as a people when you lose something like that, that feels important. I don't know what is what is your ice is take .

they are to tried to take the columbia ati in chicago down because if you remember, uh, Lorry light for america's mayor SHE was on record SHE. There are recording of her saying, the italians, i've got the biggest. And chico.

it's kind of mind.

Yeah, he's perfect. I let her no and I worry you things so um yeah I I think .

that is really interesting is to me this all began in twenty seventeen when I was the debate of OK. We bring down confederate statues, which should be done. And at the time there was an executive order that was put out by the White house of OK.

There will will be an establishment of, uh, a national garden of monuments, you know, trying to find a place to house his mindless. And at the time, trump famously did what he always would do as he went on twitter, and he gave his take, and his take was, this is just the ginning folks are going to come for Thomas jeffson and George washington next. And h, when I went back and look, it's funny, MBA news and news week posted fact checks where they said, this is false statues of George washington and Thomas jefferson, and are not next. Those will not be removed.

razing, if that, how do you, sorry, keep going. And then we have to talk nature of fact.

I mean, that's the thing is I think a lot of you see the cultural changes that come alongside with the political changes, they go in hand in hand. And the reason behind this is you can't lead people over the edge if they see a coming right. It's kind of like, you know, you want a boil frog IT doesn't feel the water get warmer.

And that kind of the effect that the west tends to take when they bring about their policy changes, because they can bring about the utopia they think they want overnight and has to happen incrementally, slowly. And in just three short years, we got to the point where actually George washington is the bad guy. Is now that the accepted belief among, you know, city driving people in new york city.

yeah, he feels totally standard to the point that I was in. There was no real that yet. There was kind of backlash online.

But it's going to happen and nothing's gonna stop IT and that's just that is actually strAngely, you know the response to the state is being shared red by the mobs in twenty twenty fell much louder and and now I i've talked a lot about this kind of vibe shift IT seems the cultures change. The overtime window is broadly that IT doesn't seem as bad to me as IT was a few years ago. But then this this issue in particular really got me thinking about, I don't know IT.

I I might be really I might really have gotten that wrong, because the the problem here is not even necessarily that this specific kind of leftist wants to get rid of the statues there. They're always gonna to do that. This is marxism.

This was the cultural revolution in china. Ax, they do IT they? They race the past, they make you ashamed of what you were, and they provide you the sort of the new face, the only new accepted faith.

Uh, the the problem that i'm facing is not dam, they're always that they are always going to exist. I have a problem with the reaction to this, which has been pretty muted. And that said to me, that culture has, yeah, I was maybe right about a shift.

But I IT, i've had friends kind of good push back on me in the past. They said, listen, they want. That's why things fill common. They want they change the way that we think about these things and and that's how IT is with washington. It's it's it's crazy that i'm sitting here thinking to myself what are the ways that I could possibly get an annoyed trouble for defending George washington. That's that's a huge change.

Only is like you said, it's incredibly delivered. If you're not grounded to your history, you're not grounded to anything, you can be taken anywhere. And that is a central point that they want to happen to meet. Like the funniest thing is the whole city council. The reason that they give for the removal um is just wrapped in layers of irony hypocras y where the city council said, we have an in fox of migrants. So to afford, you know, uh, housing all these migrants, we have to start shutting down places we can afford to keep up these statues of art, washington, and they remove giving trouble history people ad for years of this is a santry city will to live up to the hypocrisy and not let people see the headlines of where they say, you know, well, we can't take any more people. The state livery has changed her words overnight and now says, go back, there is no place for you here did rather say, well, uh, I think we could go with chopping George washington that be the the acceptable outcome for this that .

I didn't realize that they were I know what is can you actually try and steel and up for me? What is the possible reason that the statues could cost what the identical acting their statutes that they already exist?

So this was, uh, in the proposal from the city council when they put together the annual budget and they were looking specifically for service cuts that could be made because of the cost is now being brought upon by the influx of migrants where the estimates go to fifteen percent of the city's budget may now have to go towards housing, shelter and Carrying uh for the migrant which have coming to the city, have had shut downs of uh you know parks in the city uh, during the summer they tried using schools uh to house migrants. But to deal with that in a in force in the cost, uh there were proposals that were taking up of where can we have service cuts and they saw the up keeping care for statues as one the first places that they could go, particularly they mentioned the gear washington.

Yeah.

it's I don't I don't even .

know what to say about something so crazy that immigration stuff in general is I mean, this wasn't on our on our docket, but uh, we do seem to be in this I mean, it's a IT is a crazy immigration moment. You have concurrently the island and ideally where you now have what more migrants will. When did you buy the way shift from. Immigrant to migrate that feels like a recent thing that this .

is illegal immigrant is the more accurate term. They never filed the paperwork when .

they look at in there, right? Because you have some you have some actual refugees from warn torn countries than ezela. Uh but but you also have just illegal immigrants and they're all just migrants.

The refugees and illegal immigrants, they're all the same anyway. So you've got this island in italy um this sort of gateway to all of europe flooded with with with illegal immigrants. More now illegal immigrants all the island than than italian.

and but six six times as much as the as the actual initial population of the island.

But then now we have we have a bit on the border showing as a video of federal agents were moving the wire that he put up to prevent crossing right, and then waving legrath over the border. Um IT IT does seem like, I don't know, is this just is the immigration conversation that happening i'm talking about this everyday is IT possible that we are getting these images for the first time, simply by virtue of the fact that elon mosque bought twitter? Is that the major change that is precipitated this enormous immigration backlash?

Uh, I mean, it's also and that might have something to do with that, but it's also the fact that border crossings have been a record every year of the by administration like twenty twenty was a record for southern border crossings. Twenty one was a record, twenty twenty two a record and twenty twenty three people going to be a record. Two like I just keeps beating itself.

So it's like there are actually more and there's there's all this spin on IT where they are like actually um I remember in may they put out something they were like actually it's um that the lowest points at the beginning of the administration, which was like the largest ever. So it's like like this. They just say he comparing IT to like how bad it's been under the same administration. It's really there really are more than they've ever done. And um I mean .

the I don't know I .

mean what you what you guys think about .

IT her rest for mog, which is the political component of this you so dollar truck there are and will always be endless, I guess, theories on how he won in two thousand sixteen and what IT was exactly that propelled into success. What is the unique sort of special sauce and dollar? Indisputably one of the most important parts of his camping was immigration.

He was the only person on the republican side. And then certainly in the in the general hoo hammer, this issue, homes, I would say, I think IT feels like he s issue to assert exam, build the wall, right? Like this was very much something that he was talking about.

And IT resonated as far back as twenty sixteen. The immigration problem was not nearly as bad at that. When the arrest, he said the illegal immigration problem was not nearly as bad at that point as IT is.

Now we have millions of people who have crossed the border. Um it's not we're not talking about is IT because I know the borders with mexico. There's this assumption maybe that we're talking about mexican migrants.

We are not any nine more. That is your that is your grandfather's illegal immigration problem. We are talking about people from all over the world who we have. We have no sense of who they are, a crossing the border. And it's a major problem that seems I mean, to me IT seems that the problem has entered the sort of moderate sphere of politics, which is really crazy to see.

It's a completely Normalized conversation across social media and IT IT seems that if there was a big problem in in the twenty six mutations or or a big issue, I can't imagine IT not being a massive issue in this election. And how do you see, I guess, smoke? How do you see the democrats responding to that given job items in power? You also have a year now to get ahead of IT.

Like don't they don't they have a poll? There has to be IT. Seems like there's a strong political reason for them at least seem like they they care about this issue rather than, as we just saw on taxes, opening the gates and waving people through that IT feis like a bad idea politically.

What I mean, I think the what you're seeing is a prime example of the game plan that the democrats have essentially been running on ever since trump was elected, much to their surprise, their ideas. We don't need to have a plan. We just aren't dwd trumper the republican.

And so we don't need to come up with a plan. We don't need to put a plan into place. We can just say, hey, we're not Donald truck, we're not the mago radical so that they feels enough to emilie themselves and in much of the media that has been enough .

was not in the last lecture, right?

That's exactly IT is is joe by essentially ran on i'm not Donald trump and that getting him the win is how he is governed is well, it's not like I really need to come up with any plans to govern because i'm not dowd chop. I didn't really come forth with any plans of what I would do.

My plan was i'm not Donald and I said you're seeing the chaos which occurred order during the m democrat primaries uh there was a debate where famously the question was asked, what would you do uh, with the problem of illegal gration with migrants to the border? Would you provide them with healthcare job services? You know, show hands if you would be willing to provide them with health care and services if they enter the country illegally.

Without exception, every single democrat candidate raised their hand. So their idea has been that, well, I feel the most compassionate approach is no one labelling IT as migrant, which is a catch all term for anyone who enters the country illegally. The whether there for seeking a Better life for for ferrous purposes, the actual value of what ends up happening is the border is essentially being run right now by coyotes, people who smuggle the team and trafficking who smugger people up into this country.

They they set the, uh, groundwork in terms of what passed that they use. And then you get statistics where roughly fifty percent of all women and girls who you cross the border have been sexually assaulted on the way up, where it's gone to the point where when they began the journey, it's understood here's contraceptives and here's plan. Be Carry that with you because inevitable you will be sexually assaulted.

Because under this guys of being compassionate, all that is encouraged is a market for illegal behavior and for people's life to be grow up in effect. So I think not having a plan has LED to this chaos. And whenever you had a situation where, uh, don't trump s fourth of policy like remaining in mexico, where is like while your uh, you know paperwork is being filed, that if you seek asylum in the united states, you must remain in mexico and that was lifted by the by administration.

And so now there is essentially no plan of what to do to separate individuals who have entered the country illegally from the various purposes where we've now seen a record influx of central. There's every week more final granting nine states than to kill every american ten times over. So we clearly don't have any idea of how to secure the border in any sense for own safety, let alone to have some sort of an immigration procedure put in place. Let me kid.

this is a years ago the republicans used to talk a lot about, uh, a real I D laws or what what is I mean, isn't this like to to work you have to have the the ID. I mean, what is the these feel like ancient conversations? But but so slowly that has to be similarly, that IT has to be .

brought up again. What is verify? And verify doesn't work because you can just buy a social security card from like a flame market like you going to like flame markets are used to like you can just buy like a social security number like it's I like like even I loved his access.

And if you river in the photo of the driver doesn't match the guy who who is driving you. I mean, because the person who got the e verify done is the person in the photo, not the person driving. I mean, the whole situation has become to the point where there is this significant population which has already entered the country illegally.

And he saw governors like the scientist and a in in texas governor abbott, who are so frustrated in feeling that for years they were essentially told that, hey, border towns, you just deal with IT OK. The statue of liberty says they should be allowed, and so deal with IT. And so when you have these border towns, which has been suffering horribly, unable to deal with this inbox of people, and then they begin sending them to mothers vanier in city chicago, and after only a few months of a few thousand, you have new city being like, well, we ve got to get ready. George washington, before this situation, it's now become a real problem for them, catastrophe.

And it's not just a catastrophe in terms of their services, of their budget. I think IT is a political catastrophe. I think that there is a real serious problem. When what what this did the just I I said not a tweet like I think greg abbott has done more to change, I would say the em, the immigration debate than any other person I can pick up in living memory by sending immigrants to each of these cities and forcing people to confront this is sort of changed. I think it's changed the way democrats think about this or or is certainly changing the way democrats are thinking about IT.

In one very important, the urgencies there is, I would take black americans in particular, because you have a lot of black neighborhoods in the cities that are given in ted in particular and and it's just it's it's sort of IT is reframing the immigration debate as, uh, what about the people who are already in this country and need help in all of the people who the democrats are supposed to be supporting and separate from the marriage of that? We can talk about immigration all day. The political component of that, which is interesting to me, is toxic for the democrats.

I don't know that they can run with this for years. So IT seems to me they have to come up with something over for the next year, otherwise I do not see short of, I mean, what I do. You see a few ways that truck could. Mt, wait. But my sense is trump in an election is going to do very well, given the circumstances.

Yeah, IT used to be like the left wing position actually, that immigration is bt. Yet burning famously said in twenty sixteen and once day again, twenty, twenty. So then somebody as a reporter as about open barriers.

So that's a cope brother's plan. IT is IT was like a libertarian. Idea that .

you can just put more ah but .

I mean like the labor left, which was you know the core of the democratic party for most of the twenty centry, until like rap and the australians ation, they even like legal immigration models like illegal immigration, I mean seizure. Chavez called mexic immigrants wanted bags like you did not like the like. He was like, these people are strike brokers.

They drive wages down. They shouldn't be here. He said the U. B, um unit farm fireworker sent patrol militias down to the border with guns to stop mexican immigrate from coming across.

This is a very basic principle that hardcore capitalist libertarians are obsessed with in every other dimension of the market, except for this one, which is supplying demand. When you have a lot of workers, you don't have to pay them as much. And I just I don't understand why this is a complicated thing for people to grasp and and nothing would they not grasp.

They will look at you like you are an idiot. You're like an a literate who can understand these absolutely basic principles that the more labor you have, the more expensive IT becomes. The more than you pay these people, the Better IT is, the more the middle class grows. How IT does not make any sense. And so of course, the socialist had a problem with, you know, these are its pro union, pro I I mean I have all of problems with the labor movement um but this which again we can talk about IT I I understand that position um it's just again, it's supplying demand. They are corrected of my suggestion .

government abbot would be to send some of these buses of migrants to the U. A. W. Strikes and just see how that goes over, because at this point, the democrats.

the interest is how the U. A W. New strikers received joe biden. He came out to support them, and they were not into IT, which is crazy to me. The politics of of the twenty twenty are insane that they're constantly evolving. A IT makes perfect sense, when you can, of double click on that that working class people are going to be wary of joe biden because that's the natural home now of I don't want to see the republicans.

It's the natural home of dollar d truck like how many of the truck comes out in in the meat present view, very smartly goes after union leadership and supports the unions and he's and he he pointed out the the election car thing he brings in china. He says, yes, these things are going to be built abroad. That is why there's and that is in his right I am just was writing a piece about this.

They the unions have specifically called out electric vehicles as a serious concern of theirs and they're not wrong. How can we even pretend that they're wrong after decades of global ism, budding american industry? It's like, of course, the electric vehicle thing, which all of those parts come from abroad. That is a problem. That is a problem for american workers and drops keep .

into IT yeah and I think the democrats can have a problem if this continues at the the numbers that it's come, the are happening right now, it's going to be a big problem for them because like black people specifically like black working classmate suffer the most family will immigration. There is a study in twenty uh two thousand seven that said that the immigration influx that occurred between one thousand nine hundred thousand and two thousand accounted, uh, explained, about twenty between twenty and sixty percent of the decline wages among a black men, twenty five percent of the decline employment and about ten percent in the rise of incarceration rates among blacks with the working class education.

How do they how how do illegal migration Spike black incarceration?

I I guess I was like more poverty, more crime. I didn't know.

I am not interested. Direct tie that's placed between poverty and crime as if you're poor, the crime is next well.

And I think there is a thing I can put cranking below.

I like, I know lots of poor people. My mom grew up poor SHE never had a hard time not breaking into somebody y's home. I think we have to get there.

but it's not just property crime. I mean, like the in my where I grew up, whenever a lot of the factory you shut down, you saw like a Spike and you know drugs and the answer things that come from that. So if like you're in an economically devastate area and people are doing math and hero and stuff, like there is do the fines but also like there are crimes that come from that, like there's a general social decay. I think that comes along with the because not just people stealing because are hungry or whatever.

Well, speaking of the working class and the working class, hero, heroes, but there's one more than any, and that is the man we call john. I want to talk about the fact that john federman, who is the, and I get in trouble here when I talk about him because people say, well, he's disabled and so you can, you can insult the way disabled people speak.

And I, I, I don't remember john that I ever speaking coherently, so I don't that feels unfair to me. I should be able to make one of the fact that he's a moron uh I think he would be OK with that being a more honest thing. It's getting out the bumbling full but he's .

just like everybody .

else um he wears shorts and a hoody to the senate, which I will admit there is something funny about that .

did you show in senate and gene shorts? Mike.

I think I remember here that I would never but I think this is like, I mean, have been a liberal in for a while, but maybe I never was one. I had I always had this kind of reference for the country and the institutions of IT in the history and remember going to dc as a little kid looking up at linking memorial and uh and the White house i'm going to goods ones right now that stuff really meant something to make IT.

I uh, didn't interview with dan crenshaw couple years ago and he took me into the capital. This was during covers, so no one was around and we had IT was quiet and we SHE walk me through and, uh, I saw I was just all these different statues, including a grand statue art. And, uh, I felt something for that, that was an important, that's an important place for us. And IT feels that I know I sound maybe like an old man, but to see him in there in a hoody kind of like shuffling through with his nasty as beard and he's disgusting shorts with his weird little skipped leg day cabs IT it's insulting I have feel like equally offended by IT um and IT is is just crazy that the senate changed the dress code rule so he specifically could dress like that uh rather than wear a suit I don't know uh maybe i'm totally off base here river you're the youth.

It's wide treasure proprium, by the way, because his dad is an insurance executive from upstate new york and like what .

when you look like .

that you group and money like you're on to me, it's stupid you he's a rich kid who like it's like who would like became like a leftist mayor, whatever and like move to like some like shit like tom and was like i'm going to be like king here. It's like a tails all this time really um but yes I mean it's just so if IT also feels like it's feeding into like he's depression because like the so like the core of depression is that like nothing matters right and so they're like yeah nothing matters just like show up um you know in basketball shorts on the hood to vote in the senate, get nothing matters and he's like, yeah okay this is a part a part .

of depression because this is the this is the pathology as identity thing that's been happening for the past three, five years. Him being depressed is a core part of what he's giving now it's like part of his drag. And my question is, I thought that depression was a mental illness, right? That's how we treat that.

Now it's not some just sad thing. It's a mental illness. Are you able to be voting in shit if you are mentally ill? Should you be getting help and fixing yourself before your passing legislation? That affects three hundred million americans?

yeah. I mean, well, there's layers of hypocras y to is just like he was mentioned. This is A A trust one kit.

This is someone who is wealthy and who the home that they lived in was purchased for one dollar. And in a sign deed from his sister, he, he, he lived. The american dream has a paid off house.

He only had to pay one dollar for for him to wear this as something of like a symbol of the working class is a complete absurd on face of that. But what really is is messed about the situation is, you know you broke, okay, is IT it's it's not fair. People say it's mean because he is disabled.

What he hasn't said that he suffers from any sort of a disability to the exact opposite sense during the election, care swisher famously said that hey needs to leave a pattern alone in a few months. Is gonna completely fine that you know him having to have, you know, all the questions, no, Anita, and put in front of him for at a debate to be able to understand IT and given time to be able to understand IT is no different than someone using a hearing aid. Well, there's never been an allowance under the A D A. If you wear a hearing a that now the dress code is you are hold in shorts, that's that's a completely absurd reason to give for that. This individual allowed to have the central bend.

Or are people making the argument that the stroke is the reason he has to wear a holy? Because I did that that was maybe the landmine here but have they actually said like this is because of the stroke essentially .

the what the left really loves about federman as he seems to have this kind of a shield of its unfair to ever criticize him because it's like, ah come on guys, he had a stroke, you know so they feel that can shield anything that he does or size or any of his behavior under the guise of all he's a stroke. He can't criticize any his behavior.

A perfect example of this being that he can even do the most basic sign of respect, and it's not to the August body of the senate. It's a sign of respect to the people who put you there. That's a house that was built by U.

S. taxpayers. You're doing the work of the taxpayers of the americans who put you there so you show in a suit.

Well, the tourists can wear whatever they want because you have to show respect to the people you you serve. The people. So this isn't about, oh, it's a hoody. It's no big deal, guys. I think the layer of hypocras y that really gets me is the way that the media essentially shield ld at him.

Uh, when this news came out, those this journalist, uh, Sarah evil wise, said that it's telling when some people here in dc are more upset about the senate dress code than say, the threat of a government shut down our child poverty more than doubling in the U. S. And then I was like, well, i'm really, really interested to see what their opinion was when federman is running and then I pulled up from october their tweet as john federman and radio interview on whether he would wear a hold on the tor code.

I'm going to only wear what you're supposed to wear and whatever dress code on eventually finished the sense he said whatever dress code basically saying i'm just gonna follow the rules that's why you're voting for me because I am capable of this job I will do was required of me and now the same journalists were like, okay, well, he said he's fine. He'll do is ask saying, well, here's what is actually good that he's not doing what he said he was gonna do. It's totally fine.

Folks start looking at these other things because they don't want you to look at the hypocrisy because IT, at the end of the day, they don't even see the hypotheses about high archy. It's once there there, what do you simple people have to say about IT? You know what they do? You have he's the center. He can wear rever.

He want what IT comes to the actual, maybe the concept of a dress code, or of of of a formal dress.

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while I was talking about this online, there was a lot of you know, a lot of push back. And IT was interesting eyes that is kind of across the political spectrum at divides in a weird way not not every obvious libertarians don't care but um I saw a lot of democrats really do a lot of democrat who were these sort of almost you know fetishize the institutions and they are upset by this and into this.

There's interesting common ground and certain places and to artery others but the notion is was reached that you do not the way that you dress has no bearing on the way that you do your job. And I would say maybe that's true. You know like maybe if I wear this hoody, uh or I wear know a three peace suit, i'm going to be writing in the same way.

But to say that the way that you dress doesn't convey anything is totally wrong. Obviously, the style of formal dress has been designed to convey a sense of formality in the whole entire pages. Tree of IT is designed to convey respect.

The reason that I am wearing a hoddy right now and the reason that we dress this way in tech, uh in the reason that you know even across corporate america, dress codes sort gone down in schools and things like this because we as a culture have decided those are not places where you need to show that level of formal respect. You, we, we are saying something with these things. And so when you have the conversation, I think when you have a conversation about the dress code, you're it's not rigorous.

You're talking about where we do and do not demonstrate to each other formal respect. And so this for me it's it's like weddings. I you dress up at a what you convey formal respect.

And when someone has been voted in to the most important legislative body on the planet to represent us, I IT seems bad to me that they don't believe they need to convey a sense of respect that fears like that feels like a degradation of society. And maybe we've been degrading for a while, which is why the rest of us arden suits. But I I don't like seeing IT there.

And I don't think it's a small thing. I think it's it's an easy thing to put the suit on. And it's quite a big statement to change the rules of the senate so you specifically can wear your fuck.

This happened when my dopper ganger auto marsillac with before congress and a Green t shirt, and I like was meeting by just wearing a like a like a Green t shirt, like a Green like cover. Uh, jack and people are like, he's fighting a war and i'm like his not not, not really. He's here is in dc. What do you think is not fighting a war right now?

IT was added, completely aware of what was doing and reregister that what happened .

was on a smooth slob. You know what? I mean, committing the president who's giving you all of this money, put on a fuck. And so.

right, he's conveying something. So people are responding to you the way they are, because he slansky conveyed something with the way that he was dressing. This is IT is a kind of communication that humans do.

And I am very frustrating when people expect me to pretend that I don't understand what's being said, by the way, that someone is rising in a situation like that. So let's y IT was very transparent. He's conveying military guy don't have time to wear suit, trying to beat back of the invasion veteran, saying something too. We're just trying to pretend that he's not saying IT. And what he's saying is I don't keep a good about any of you exactly that is like already come knew that based stone is overall vibe but the fact that the democratic leadership would kind of formalized this into the rules of the senate, that it's not good that is that a huge problem?

no. Again, as the thing is, that was never about institutions or norms or any of that. That was just the line of attack that would work when they want to go after drop. They don't care about either.

What about the Normal of a diamond smog you been talking about hunchy. I this is a very political losses. So apologies to fox at home.

But I mean, if we're going to have smuggle, we've got to talk about hundred. You had a tweet recently that was pretty interesting, kind of just pointing out the evolution of that conversation in america. Uh one of Walkers through .

that sure so uh between and question uh was erased when uh Gavin newsome was asked about the whole one hundred bine situation and gave union said it's Normal for people to use family members to get a little influence to justify his business deals so this is such A, I mean, this is a rapid, slippery, slow. Bono is even a slow at this point.

We just completely jumped in all right off the Cliff side with this because, uh, in the tweet, as I laid out my side, incredible how we've gone from number one hunter's laptop is russian disinformation that's what we were told leading into, uh, the election. And then we were told one hundred did nothing wrong. Then I was hundred did drugs, but not corruption.

And now finally we've arrived at, actually, corruption is good weve. We've gone a whole hog into anything that been said about hunter. Is, is, actually, is the russians yet again, trying to interfere? No election. And people were walked out from twitter.

There was a photo from hunters laptop during um the campaign which leaked and IT was him with a hooker on his bed and there were a bunch of a stuff pokemon and I zoom in and took a screen shot of four pok on from his bed and I was like, bro, why does hunter have these here? And I got locked at a twitter for that you could even have a screen shot of the pokemon he had in the room. That's the level that we reached like, well, this is absolutely not something that allowed to be discussed and here we are now it's it's it's two years later. And not only only we know aware that, yes, everything on that laptop ended up being true, but it's kind of OK let there be a little corruption guys come on. At least he's not true.

But what what an can you break down the entitled for us? What is this? Because I trump s said something is always hard from trump s making case for the U. K. Quite tough. Like what is real and what I he made the case on, meet the press that I mean, they were well like eight or nine possible and dietary and the only one that he went down, that that hunter went down for was a gun charge sort involved this to to rebuff the interviewers assessment that you now surely now you can stop saying that you're being targeted because everybodys being targeted fairly or whatever.

Uh, what is the what's the truth there of the like? What actually I ve been falling under by up too closely? What what are the induction on the table? And what is he now being joked with?

sure. So I mean, it's actually it's a it's a long story, but the rest of IT is is really interesting. Uh, basically begins in two and seventeen when he was.

And this is all the records which have been put out by the U. S. treasury. So this isn't you know some kind of conspiracy theory or anything that coming up with this is from the willer journal where in two thousand seventeen he earned two million dollars um from business that he did in china in ukraine because I mean of course he is an energy executive you know someone who uses a lot of cocaine and and hookers I guess know a lot about energy um so he earned two million on that but he doesn't want to pay the taxes on IT and uh further than you see in october of 2， he purchases a gun and then when uh you you purchase a gun during the background check, you asked if you use drugs or if you addicted to drugs and he said no and at the time his girlfriend, his brother's widow took the gun and threat into a trash cane in a school's one when they were having a fight and so, uh, a few hours later, I guess they both, you know, calm down.

They go back to find the gun and it's gone so no, you've got a gun in a school's one which ends up missing and a gun shop owner, uh, is approached by the secret service who say, can you give us some paperwork on a hunter band who purchased a gun from you guys and he says, no, because he was worried that, okay, I guess a gun that I sol, I was using in a crime i'm not giving this to the secret service. He sends IT to T F to have, uh, hunter is then interviewed on, okay, what happened to this gun and he directly says, I think this is what actually wild and it's difficult to find but you can you can actually find his statement out there. Uh, he says, I if I had to think i've seen, uh, some mexican people hanging around near that trash can, I think they are probably illegal so that was that was the statement that he gave on the record to what happened to the gun.

So we fast for the years, years later, where investigation finally begins into all of this. And, uh, hunter, a hunter, a mary garlin, the journey gentle. Uh, let's attorney and delaware take the charge on investigating.

Okay, what have an hero? Was any corruption? What's with these gun charges in the tax event and everything and eventually they get to a point where hang tra is going to take a plea on the tax charges, not have to pay any of the back taxes.

Of course, it's great to be the present on, uh, the gun charges. Everything will disappear. And his lawyers get IT writing into the three reem of that.

Also, any other crime are committed, are forgiven. And so the judge sees this. And and and rock, are you serious? This is not legal.

This other crimes, yeah, astrid t at the bottom like he he can never be held accountable for anything else he's ever done like .

also other crimes he did or O K now and so the judge has absolutely not uh and and throws out that when the whole predetermined l apart and you saw this wild's ramble from the White house, because at the same time, unfortunately for the bidens, the republicans had won the house and the houses where investigations began. And so they actives began an investigation into all this.

And the house has a peano power so they can get all legal documents related to their area of investigation and that we start picking up all this information and multiple whistle lers comfort from the F B I, from the I R S saying that we were told specifically these are the areas were not allowed to investigate uh and so then the attorney general, merry garland, once again in a goes back and a post this time the same attorney who got hunter that deal as the special council to investigate. So this in a way can stem y further investigations from the house, because now the feral government, because they will, with we have a special council that's on IT the main take away to begin with is by holding on to the case in this way, the statue of orbital is now passed on his tax crimes, so he has already scared on those. The question now is, was gonna happen with his gun charge, which is an extremely serious baloney, and also now that the U.

S. Treasury has released these records, that the millions of dollars that were coming in from china to hunter were also then being wired to nine different members of the biden family. And so that's where the story leaves off. So whenever ver, you hear the thing of like, oh, well, hunter is in the president in what does him having hookers have to do with me? Well, when you know nine members of the family that control the White house are getting money work from china, I think IT kind of has something .

do with all of us. Yeah, the salvacion sss of IT all, I think, kind of distract people. That's a whole, because they seem margery tailed. Room with the pictures and their like well is pretty hung for an irish guy and then they not like, you know, there's a whole other thing go I got where is like, yeah wiring money directly from foreign government the the whole ukraine's scandal, it's like biting basically do what trump was in peach for the second time, which is denying foreign aid like congressionally allocated foreign aid to ukraine. Um in order to like influencer internal politics, like IT, if you miss all the insanity just because of how fuck up the story and is and how these because he's such an interesting character, I am vassal by hunter biden.

Just asn't do is, I think of something funny about him and kind of awesome. He does not care. And if you were, I think, the .

window of the dead .

brother this, like, if he were a trump, I think that people on the trumps on that, they would be down, they would be, would be endless means in favor of hunter. He is just, here's here's that bitch. I mean.

it's in again. I think the .

whole thing goes back to the whole slippery slope of like what we were initially told and then where we are now, where during the election, joe biden was asked, did you have anything to do with any of this business? And he says, point blanker, you meet the person interview. I never once spoke to any of hunters business associates. And now from the records to have come out, we now know, number one, hunter biden called business people that he was working with in china and said, i'm sitting right now in the room with my father, and we are extremely disappointed that the wire has not arrived there is going to do. Doesn't .

hundred crack out? We don't. Can you believe that things that hundred .

says so here's the thing is the date that that phone called this is the benefit of the house republicans now getting all the piano records. The date that that phone call actually happened is a date that he was in. This burden we have at that time with job in the White house when joe body was the vice president. So we now have the time in the place.

It's not just that he was on crack at the time, which I agree, bEthany makes a very difficult person to trust what they say, but we have that on record and then uh further, when we have an incident, uh, a record for joe ban being put on speaker phone at a dinner with hunters business associate having a discussion and then you have the congressman from new york, dal gold man who initially said joe bian says he never once spoke to the business associate now saying that well with and doesn't everyone is posture promise to say that he shouldn't be talking with hunters business associate every dad we talk to their kids business associate so we are constantly the state of, well, we just need to hold information from people until the next election. Then when we get there, we just tell them it's not a big deal. And IT doesn't matter whether you're public in or a democrat, whether you support trump, whether you support at the end the day, everyone should be concerned if there's an individual who is willing to cash and and and and get in money from foreign adversary. And now that person is sitting in the White house, that should be something that is concerning to everybody.

agree. Um and more to come on that I mean, of the initiation just went down. And I think I mean, we're an election here. I think this is going to be I said I think because if i'm making some really crazy prediction, and as I said, it's going to be crazy where to be a crazy here, slug, you always is that he famously say, I want to get the exact for, but right today he is going to be an insane, going to be an insane day, but is going to be an in same day for the next three hundred and sixty five days.

Uh, plus, I want to talk about one thing that I did that, uh, well, i'm sort of, so the chips sex, the song with the chip sex, what I am roughly in favor of merchandise. M, I think at this point, our government, we are competing in the global market. This is I don't really see a way for us to build up any kind of manufacturing capability to home without significant government port.

I like the speed of the chip sac. IT actually started under trump, and I wrote all about IT in a peace called american households microchips edition. One of the things that was going to happen, one of the earmark, this massive bill, I think, and riders going to break IT down on the second, just like the whole history of this, um was the creation of tech hubs, tech hubs around the country in, I don't want to see blooded areas, but just sort of like economically depressed returns of the country. The notion being, we're going to create, you know, little mini silicon valleys everywhere. River roa story, uh, just publish this week all about IT want you break IT down for us yes.

So um this is the tech hubs program are officially the regional technology innovation hold program. Ah it's just one part of chips. There's a lot of other stuff that's going on there that I don't get into you. But essentially what this program does is the .

economic .

development agency, which is like a sub department of the commerce department, is going to designate twenty tech hubs um and there's all these requirements on what those have to be. One third of them have to be in low population states um which is like this is a hole less on its side laska, north dakota, south dakota. Why I got that, I think that's probably was putting there to get a little bit of about gan sport.

But um one third will have to go to rural areas. Um and a certain portion of those twenty design day tech cuts is weird that like they're like we're going to build these U T. Clubs, but they're actually just like not you're going to give all of the money, but they're not going to give some of the money a lot of IT up to sixty five million. And the way that this program is conducted is sort of insane, like you're judged on how well you coordinate with hpc use and other minority serving institutions, which I looked into its like basically any college that's like more than twenty five percent of the students are non light or something.

Also like you have to have like plans of like how you're going to help traditionally marginal I figured what the exact where IT is but like traditionally marginalized roup that basically dawn White people like um they have in a whole no that explains um that is like a disabled people um in all kinds of stuff but the most like insane thing is that because you you have you're thinking about this right you're like OK. So they're trying to create tech hubs in rural areas, in rural states that also have like hpc use and though or whatever. Okay, how is this going? Uh, how are you you going to get tech people to let move there and they enter? That is you can and you should.

If you're not allowed.

you're not allowed. There's this revision in this that says um it's called the non relocation policy which says if you accept any money from the you cannot use any of IT to entice people to move from one part of the united states to another um so basically in like they know I think that this is a problem.

Are our migrants covered under this is is that OK? I think that is like historically marginalized?

Yeah immigrants are like specifically like historically modern oni. Ze, and I think this perhaps there could be a loop where you could attract because the real location policy says that you can uh entice workers to move from one part of the united of the others.

So I guess you could not enter them to move from abroad, which is inside um but they in like a list of suggestions of what you could use the money for um they suggest um using some of the grant money uh to create partnership ships with organizations. This is dr. Kate partnerships, organizations that support employer adoption of hiring and employment practices that support employer adoption so quickly baba baba blaw that happened to the talents of existing workers, and remove barriers to good jobs such as sill plate based recruitment and hiring practices. So they want you to get rid of skills based recruitment and herring practices so that you don't have to deal with the fact that like you're in rural north dakota and like there aren't a lot of people who know how to work in that you know how to come to do whatever.

How much money are retaking about .

um at the sixty five million I think is like so .

we're talking about taking this money.

her program A A recipient. So like multiple grounds .

of top twenty times sixty five million.

no, not twenty because not all of the twenty you're going to get money, which is even more at same program because you're just saying that places of take me, you're even giving them the money to do IT, even though the money is probably .

not gna help. So the goal is to go into an unpopulated area with no skills in tech whatsoever, and to use sixty five million dollars to create a test cop without inviting anybody else in the country with tech talent. Legally not allowed to do this to help build the hub.

And there are suggestion for how to do this with people in the area who don't have these skills is to simply stop caring about the skills such as, for example, the ability to code that is, this is not serious like I don't. It's like that succession, right? You are not.

You're not. See those people. This is not serious.

And I am like, persistently, I feel like i'm driven to the point of madness because i'm expected to have a serious conversation with fundamentally cloud h people. This is crazy. Why is this happening?

Yeah well, I mean this could only really like, I suppose you can make the argument a certain projects that would be covered into this like um certain types of like high and like manufacturing and stuff like you could hire a local person to work on the line. Yeah true, but you're also going have to have you also going to have to our engineers to like design the products and to like working like the fire details of things like yeah, you can hire local people to work on the wine, but like you're still going have to like a trap. Top talent is because if you want to be a hub with like multiple different company is going is just is making some .

when they're like just don't just drop the skills requirement and hire them anyway whatever like that. Some stupid shit that you just expect from today's politicians. But the problem that we don't have people in these regions with the skills that they're not properly educated, that's a real to me, that's a real problem.

IT is a problem. That large swath of the population, american population or not skilled for a technological society or for anything, let alone tech. Um our education is a special and one thing that really bothers me right now and tech is this and has been like this since I joined and I used to be much more than to IT.

But these days and this is like really a hard acy in the tech industry. Um but I the h one b VISA, should I am like that? Yes, if we're going to have immigration, I think we need to be bringing in people who are skilled.

But the bigger problem to me is not that we don't have indian engineers who american entrepreneurs can hire for less pay than americans. The bigger problem is that there are so many americans who are not skilled to do these jobs. Like I would love to see.

It's hard. You can throw money at a problem, but but I would love to see a strategy in place to help these kids in these world areas, in every serb suburbs, or likes the city like that. The skills problem is persistent across the country.

I want to see us doing more to get americans prepared to work. And I I wish I, instead of creating these fantasy hubs, the deal of nowhere they would, they would put the resources in and not just the resources, right? Because you need a strategy in place.

And maybe here is where the tech industry could help by by importing them in the direction of of what they need and going into schools themselves and hiring maybe I don't know, educators or something in them up to train other people. Um that's that's where the alpha is is in is in the next generation of americans. I almost feel stupid, say IT, because it's so try like we need to focus on education, but we need to focus on education.

Well, I mean, I I think a 2 bees also allow a leads to basically disengage from like the problems in education in america。 It's just like, okay, we're not training the workers too. Like need to work for us. We can just hire people broad to do IT and that is so that way. Like oh yeah, I can cost like three hundred thousand dollars to go to medical school or like you know even just a regular college degree if you are not you know if your parents can afford to pay, you're gna have to go to tend the tens of thousands of dollars and to get IT and so like that this advises a lot of people um from going to school, especially the like and a lot of people go and then they drop out because they are having to work all the time to like take care of themselves is just way too expensive um to like get education in amErica I think that like province, a lot of um people who who will ago in these areas who would otherwise like you know be able to get those jobs if I were like free or cheap from being able to do IT.

I say also this is a very big country, massive, one of the largest populations in the world and you know if you are in some tiny little five million person country and you to have a silly complex r american tech and you need to staff that and you couldn't find the talent, I would understand, oh, man, we Better look elsewhere.

Um in amErica perhaps we do need to look elsewhere right now and there is an argument for the h one b saying and in that I am going to listen to that but there's a much bigger if you cannot find engineers in america, computer programmer in amErica with the tech industry was born in a population of three hundred plus million people with unlimited resources. That is a huge problem. And that is a much more important problem than facebook needing engineers. The much more important problem is we have left behind our entire youth and that like I want I really really want to see people addressing this and I hope that we can see um I hope this is something the democrats at least a paid lip service to forever and republicans really historical if not um I would love to see in the age of .

this new sort of .

trucker tucker trumping government doing more for people think I would like to see them start talking about this. I would like to see them start talking about skills based education in rates, actual strategies for for helping Young people prepare themselves. And IT would be cool actually, if we had some bypass, an consensus on the topic of, like, we need to do this. And then the question became not whether or not we should focus more on this, but what is the most practical way to go about IT?

I mean, just hearing this is is shocking to me because I don't think anyone in any of these groups planning any of this. Ask the simple question of what are the matrix for success here? What are we actually looking accomplish? What's the m goal and how do we know that we're getting there? And then I I would be remissions ed, and bring up an example. Uh, there is this guy who's actually running for president and he doesn't get nearly the attention that he deserves. Dog bargain.

Uh, governor of north dakota, who was once a chimney y sweep, came from an absolutely broke, poverty stricken family and of going to stanford and starting a software business in north dakota because he saw that anyone who developed tech skills with leave north dakota and he started his software business in north dakota and turn the university of north dakota to attack feder school for his company which he then goes on to sell to microsoft where he's executive so is not necessarily that the answer here is another government program because I think the h one b shows that's a government program. That's just an admission of defeat on the U. S.

Educational system. And IT perpetuates the continued failure acceptance of the failure of the american education system. When you have teachers, unions are are pushing to get calculus advances, placement classes, remove from the curriculum so that there might be a Better chance of kids passing basic literacy because they just want to be able to teach a basic literary test instead of worry about, okay, there might be some kids won to take calculus who might want to learn how to code. But we can't worry about them if we don't start heating some quotas on getting some kids to pass reading and writing other basic level.

I'm onna lose a job yeah um I think that the framing because it's interest I crazy because like this is one of these topics .

where no one really .

talks about IT and then the moment you use to peel IT back, it's like everyone sort of agrees you can see the problem like this day it's we need to be focused on applying our researchers that are coming from amErica to helping out the future of amErica and para. I mean this the idea that imagine before is like, I love this.

What are the metric of success? That it's like how I often say we need a plan for success, and I don't wanna pass any kind of legislation that increases spending without a plan. I talk about this in the context that homesites m safes cook quite a lot.

But as you just mentioned, it's worse than not having a plan. We don't even know what the goal is. Yeah, you can create a plan towards anything if their social goal.

And I think it's because the goal here was just to give money to people. It's just it's it's a weird there and this is what our government is to its just cutting. And so it's like is eat it's like this leaky he force IT that just spreads like oil all over and and nothing really comes at IT.

Um and I think it's like i've evolved from being I never maybe knew it's like am I against government spending IT or against the government? And it's like I I think my problems with this government and I what I want is a government that does shit like Apollo. And uh, I want to I want to be inspired and I just I and it's all of these things are connected.

The veteran thing, I don't it's not inspiring to see a man like that and senate representing me. It's not inspiring to be building hubs to nowhere in middle of the country. Um it's not inspiring to be giving up the youth of amErica with the h one b.

One thing you is just, he said, a total admission of defeat IT IT is exactly what were singer and he to break with a local politics example deep pressed in a supervisor in santana ago. The best one is the actual millionaire xie, a member of the D. S.

A. And he has come out. He's decided after years in office and saying the oke defund the police and everything else.

He's now decided to come out and say, okay, the car break in problem in sanford isco is a problem he saying this because it's like ninety nine percent of people in safer cisco either have have a car broken in or know someone who'd have a car broken in and everyone agrees its a problem, uh, but the solution is not and he didn't say the solution was not policing. He's no longer to fund the police guy. Just he doesn't talk about the issue.

All his memory all IT. The solution to carrick, he says, is simply convincing the public to stop putting things in their car like that. The solution to rampant carrick ins and that what is that, but is just admission of defeat is like you just gave up as a policy that's crazy. This is her job is to stop this, not to tell me to stop having things as a way to avoid having my things taken from me.

I mean, that's a great solution. If if you simply have nothing, I can be stolen. I mean, great idea. Great solution problem.

So putin, congress, we had more to talk about today. I wanted get to apple and stuff that we are running over a all this stuff is really interesting. You actually i've been trying to put together a peace on immigration.

I think I now know the approach so that'll be in your box next week um again, this is comfortable ly smog and i've got you are a legend. You are amazing. Your twitter so much everyone should follow. You were one of you, one of my personal earliest supporters. You, I think, are really responsible out .

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