hanksgiving Lessons: Notes From Your Toxic Uncle, Crime in NYC, MSM in Decline, & The Broligarchy 🏴‍☠️
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Make crime illegal again.

starting at eight in the morning, stabbing three individuals in a completely unprovoked attack. In new org, specials announced a new congestion pricing toll the D A of the jurisdiction aland brag is only focus on crime when IT can be used against the presidential .

candidate he doesn't like .

between seven and eight, and viewership fell seventeen percent.

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You guys should just immediately talking about.

What's up, guys? Welcome back to the pod. A quick note.

Next week we going to be offered thanksgiving. So you'll probably not river this by the ending. You'll be asking me where the pot is on twitter.

It's in a show. I'm going to be cooking for my family on netscape. I'm not going to be recording a show with you guys.

Unfortunately, I do love you, but not that much, not as much as I love. I was just in my family. IT seems to tried, but you on my family can't wait.

Excited for you all, excited for me, the holiday I need to break. Yes, moving on. Um we have coming up uh Polly market segments to set up for that. We're going to be going over of the odds of uh, with the chances is according to the polymer Betters of a crime, a chrome google chrome google I guess separation agreement via a video j and our parallel segment, of course, so so tight for the return of miles and andy and I H I wanted to magic guys to be voting for these people in the comments section.

Um who you want to see more up because we are going to up i'm going to for the finals, which begin three weeks from now, okay, after the races. So make crime illegal again. Where to take you in york city? Riley, break IT down for us?

yes. So we've covered a lot of new york city crime like a naro t any stories.

But this one was like, sorry, ed. Special guests is welcome to the show. Hi, hi, hi lover, she's here again. Thank you on short notice.

rally back to you. So a bit of background on remond Rivera, our latest big apple criminal. Um for starters he's a homeless guy with a length criminal rap sheet. Um he's been arrested for burglary, assault and grand larson's and that's just in the past year. Um he had two prior mental health episodes as the new york post calls them, also just in the past year.

And one of his prior arrest was for actually attacking an officer in one of these psychiatric facilities that he was in and yet somehow this guy who sounds like an absolute menace who should be in a straight jacket, was just like chilling on the street um he goes on to commit a stabbing spring in broad daylight um starting at eight the morning stabbing three individuals in a completely unprovoked attack including a thirty six old man and woman in a sixty seven year old man who is just fishing in the east river all three of whom eventually succumbed to their injuries um meanwhile what were new york politicians doing and while this was happening, Kathy hoky and york officials announced a new congestion pricing toll, uh, which they claim is going to somehow fix the subway. We will see about that. And of course, the da of the jurisdiction, alban bag, is only focus on crime when IT can be used against a presidential candidate he doesn't like. And then in a bit of beautiful and sad irony, one of brag's assistance was this morning robed and attacked by an illegal immigrant with five prior arrests since twenty twenty three. So if that doesn't serve as a wake up call for these people, I Frankly don't know what will at this point.

I mean, concurrently, what you also have happening is penny on trial, right? So you're living in this, he said in our cartey really is that, I mean, the streets are not safe and that is the bare minimum thing, but you need to do as the city is. Care about that. It's crazy to me that this person is atomic, is these are sort to, they're connected, but sliding different stories. The first one is about a crazy american.

The second one is way harder to understand, which is, how are we literally paying to put up an illegal immigrant from venezuela, a who is in a gang who has been arrested multiple times? Like, how is that person still here? Why we paying his rent? Like, why is this allowed? IT is so crazy.

devise. It's hard also to keep talking about IT because it's just like what is going to change. I don't know what is going to take to change this. I know that it's um IT is worse than that sounds even because this is the thing this is how we see the government is the thing that protects us.

And if it's not that, then what is IT is just the thing that as you to rally like charges this lots of money for city service on things that you're living in new york city, tell a little bit about how you feel. Are you excited about the the roving gangs of illegal swell? Yes or no? There obama alone isn't. Push back here. Give me the steel man for the roving gangs of illegal Venus vaLance.

Get on my city. Now, I just that the one this week to stab this one I really like, got me find out like I don't really get too far these days. This one got me like fired up and it's said it's thirty third thirty people got stabbed in in the street and he went to multiple occasions around in manhattan so wasn't like he was in one condensed area.

So he was rome around new york city, just seven people. It's embarrassing when you have the solutions to your government. Are Cathy oko charging more for regular citizens to drive their car in the city? Or alban bag, who is trying to go after your trump fur stories.

Daniel. Payment that actually fixing. So I mean, the solution will have to be off at the vote out.

We did see the reckoning of that in L. A. And sampson, isco in time will tell that actually fix things. But they did vote.

The voters did vote to get these people out, right? And so as now there is an election in twenty twenty five in june for aland brag, and right now no waneth even contesting them. Not even a lead like contesting like there is is is expected for republican an to oppose him. But you know the general consensus is because you're in blue manhattan that he would still win. But the other democrats is not opposing alban a moment.

This is one of the reasons I started ted writing about local politics and and for cco it's because my god sends every time, uh, let's say late 20s twenty seventeen， twenty eighteen, before twenty twenty, when things were obviously insane, I would go to bar, hanging my friends, meet new people.

And if crime came up, if the question of carrick came up, or that I was mostly that berlin became a scary thing a little bit later, I mean, they are, but really Spiked after twenty twenty car bricks for the thing that everyone was freaking out about back then, when you talked about that people were like, shut IT down. What do we have to do to fix this problem? There is a complete agreement on this topic.

And yet the votes went in the same direction every time to sort of support people like chess abundant. And and so I thought I think it's just like people don't aren't they're just not voting. I think they're not aware of what's going on.

They're aware of an alternative. They're not engaged. It's like this is not a story that people care about and they're kind of local politics and local politics story. And that feels like new york city to be me right now.

I feel like every city in amErica really other than santa is go at this point um but new york is is especially important because the effect of capital of the country is not literally but it's the economic capital, is the cultural capital. It's it's our city and uh it's falling part and specifically, this dimension, I think, is just people don't know what they are. Alternatives are.

And if you could get people excited about that and have local politics be a bigger topic of conversation, I think that you I don't live in new york, but I don't I do not even know what your happy your legislature is. I don't know how many representatives you have like deciding what the laws are. I don't only even know who's being voted for or not or whenever that.

I bet most new yorkers don't know that either. And that little bit of basic education has to happen. Well, so much of IT is mechanic.

So so many people, manhattan are going to go blue because they're blue, right? Especially when you have a world of people afraid to trump and anything as republic in. If you look at the voter map that switched over the trump in new york city, he was the bronx in berkley wce stunning lee red, and it's at in the middle who's all very blue, and then making all the laws for people, right?

So h alan bread comes out of manhattan, so they're the ones voting from so a lot of his memetic up, just like I can vote for red. I just had to vote for the the democrats guy and he went to trump and I hate trump. So sometimes the party boils down to be that simple, I would guess.

Yeah, that's the national that's the the of distraction of national politics because sure, I understand that you know why you're new yorker and you don't want to look for don drop. I get that. But that does not map in any way whatsoever to local politics because when you're living in a one party state, everyone becomes corrupt and terrible, and the over to window totally shifts to the left.

And so now your standard democrat could be very, very derail. And this would happen probably in any that would happen, a republican party stays as well. But that's just have as we let the land of of of new york, it's crazy.

I I guess at this point it's such a high profile case. I can't imagine that nothing will be done to the crazy person now. And just like I sort of dust will see if that venezia ling is supported. I would be surprised at this point if you could attack who can detect one of the days office with a rap sheet and all this national attention and still not get deported them. I don't know so many times it's .

the time me of the event. So like if this happened in like the electoral is next week or two for an brag, you can seem game voted out, but then have like nothing really happens in the election comes. People could be asleep at the wheel.

So sometimes the time mean of IT really matters when events curve. But I guess I will do the who covers some cisco. So much like sam, cisco obviously reacted.

And from being a parrot liars, I never rose how crazy sample cisco as thousand. And a lot times are crazy in the new york city. So like how did they will finally wake up and how gona be applied to york city?

What was like? What the same before? I think that they just became a story that you were able to talk about. Like once there are a lot of people writing about IT and talking about IT you to have an opinion about IT sudden, like accidently educating yourself about IT you know, most people didn't know what to the dissect attorney. I don't think I honest.

I don't think like people know the dissecting ornee is I genuinely, I think I really know that like that they don't care. They don't think about IT until a part of their life and that became a thing that everybody in the city just talked about. A big part of that was, I think, the media cover of IT.

Thank you. And um and once I started is just what once you became a thing that you have to talk, that I had to talk about, but but that was being talked about. People nurture, learn about IT, formulate opinions about IT.

Maybe they disagree, but there at least educated on the basics. They know they know enough to be informed voter, and then also to be outraged when things are going wrong. Suddenly, now things are going wrong.

And you know who specifically you need to attack. Okay, who is responsible for this? Is this guy right here? He's the D.

A. He's the reason these people are being let out. The way that I stop him is by voting on this date and for this other person over here. But they have to know that first.

And I think that you're not even affect level in the new york york like emphasis go as super transit ent but less um but on new york I think is more transient then um then even cracis co emphasis is huge voting blocks that uh have always lived in the city and always vote sort of predictable ways. And um it's harder in new york gave a lot of people coming in there and out of there all the time. But still IT has to be .

done that the coverage you did on crime and sf actually made IT into advertising circles, which are you extremely left? This IT broke up a writer. R character pair was the big deal.

really. Wow.

my friend was like that. I mean, have you seen this article on my gives?

What's iro? Yeah yeah.

I think part of the shift tu, like in seven disco especially, there seemed to be this like downbent tonton paul where you know if you were like mentally ill, you know homeless, like you at the top, if you you had to commit crime for a living, you're that and then like women and children and or like the bottom somehow um and I think I think there's just like a little bit of shift every time it's like await these people, aren't you breaking into cars by bread? There's like seven million dollar crime rings um that are being uncovered and I think once people you know start to realize that like that that person at the top of the victim to paul, I might not be as worth protecting as they think. Uh, there could be a little bit of shift there.

Yes, that such a good point we have victimized the victimizers and away. It's the story that we all in, just, you do IT you move to a big city, america, and you very quickly, you like, pick up that story, that, oh, these people, you know, oh, yes, sad. The crime is bad.

But think about their life. Think about how about their life is. And I think that's perfect.

I think that's never valid at this point. I used to think that in these days, I don't even say actually bad for people. I I just like, no, that's that's that's not valid. But it's also not even true if IT we're true would not be well. But it's not true like you are dealing with massive crime ring throughout the city and and then also you're dealing with just the problem of, I think I guess, the one that I I keep thinking about how to follow this because I think this should be a piece that I know if I don't want to get stolen, but I have this idea, I think that if you've got rid of publicly funded housing in anyway subsidized, funded whatever, I wonder what crime would look like in new ork city or safran.

This guy I think about, like you're breaking into a car or something, do you have a day job? Like how are you paying your rent? Is how is that actually what is your what is the life of the average criminal in new york? Empty school, los Angeles? Was that look like? Where are the criminals coming from? Like teenagers were living with their family or their parents, whatever.

And then and then I think it's people who are on some kind of subsidized housing is people who probably shouldn't be in the city otherwise. And A I don't know you guys, we're getting any exclusive right now. This is like i'm just the in the asian face here.

Let you be ready to drop IT peace more. No, did you see what i'm going getting with this? Is that crazy? What do you think?

I think there's also a lot of like homeless people that commit crimes to the like. This guy who went on the stabbing spread was totally homeless.

a shelter. I thought .

that is true. That is true. Yes, he wasn't a shelter. So you're saying if they get rid of shelters, like would .

crime go outside of the city, far away from drugs and police and if and they're also like you shouldn't be speed, shouldn't get a free pass for committing crime because your homeless I know I am not commit that most criminals are homeless yeah.

I agree with that. I think a lot of its more organized than we think.

especially I think there for surely that I was crazy. That's a good example. But like but the other guy was living in up a was living literally a place that we're paying for or with me that math paying for.

yes. So I want to give you shut that down just what way you know it's it's not fully formed. I'm married to go attack by I to learn a little bit about tween housing crime.

But I do think yeah just I feel like there's if you really were to pull back the curtain on this stuff, I think we would be directly funding a lot of the crime that were upset about and is also a small number of people, like both of these people have been arrested multiple times um that it's a very small percent of of people who cause ninety plus percent of the chaos in all these places and we just have to get rid of them completely. But you have some come up in N L A right of a version of this happening. You just have that you had the recall of .

A H yeah ah I think lake, like going back to what you are saying, there's a few like cursive ideas that progressive have gresh gresh ve have that contributes this. One of them is that anybody deserves to live in a big city. Like there are some entitlement that like you, regardless less of your income, you should be able to live in a any city you want, which I think you're not actually entitled to IT.

I think like if you're going to live in L A, you probably need to make enough money to live in L A because L A might have if you're going to pay for the best services or the highest taxes, then you might need to make a lot of money to live here. And I don't think that I don't actually think it's controversial to say like if you don't have enough money to live N L A or in empty aso or in new york, then you don't get deliver here. That seems totally reasonable to me.

Um the other one the other cruse of idea that I noticed um was recently like very well ill illustrated in a tweet that I saw the other day which is somebody and the eet was really getting dunk on by one of the red scared rules but the tweet was like, amo, you're afraid of your kids riding the bus and I was in response to somebody who was like upset about crime in their city and they were saying something like, I don't I hate the fact that I like can't but like IT on a bus, a public city bus to go to school anymore. Something like that and what that like feels to me like is that they not only want crime to be legal, they actually think crime isn't a like the fact that crime exists is not a problem at all, you know. And that's crazy to me.

kind of cool.

I think it's like crime is bad. It's part of the culture. I think think crime is good or something like that city would even go that far, or that crime is good or something um or its crime is good or IT doesn't exist, or something like that is some other thing that's happening.

like diversity or something. Talk about the people who like cheering, like jump in and to turn out the subway.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Like their K S. agents.

Something it's, they know they are, but they are. How you possibly care about this? How could you not care about this? This is we are living in a city together, collectively, like we have to follow certain basic rules of adequate, or everything breaks down and stops working, and things are getting worse.

I, I, I really believe that they are getting worse. You look around, things are degraded. It's really hard to build new things. It's really hard to bring on a new police staffing. For me, the crazy person, the craze guy thing is very simple as just public I forget who I was.

Maybe one of the counter member of something was like its a mystified as to how it's a great mysterious to how this happened okay, I mystified how you're missed fied uh, what what happened here was pretty obvious if we can arrest anybody and crazy people were not allowed to lock up and so this person, what was that I think was Willy, you have to take like he stopped someone and became IT was a okay, he's too scary for the crazy personality where is going released him and hope for the best where is going to hope he doesn't kill anybody? You guess what? You are wrong.

He killed three people and it's GTA keep happening unless you figure out if if you're going to say that, okay, will cry people. He can help IT. He's just crazy.

Whatever, he's still to be locked. The fucker, he need to be off the streets. He cannot be free to run around as a crazy person and kill people. It's very basic shit.

I did want to note that the guy, the manhattan borough present, mark levine, is the one, the guy who tweet, how could this have happened? You're like, well, the fucker you are in ge. I mean, how did this happen? Does that makes you? Does the drive me the most crazy? Look into this?

I just read this new york post article yesterday or two days ago. The headline is turned to og o as ari set up shop in the sixteen states, holland security warns. They sent out an eternal memo to the, to other government, the agencies, I guess, and they blamed on immigration. This is like prety scary.

you know, this is also often framed as a smaller problem than IT seems. So it's in sixteen states. But how many people are there? really? How many crimes are there? really? What is that compared to the percentage crime nationally? And I think IT is definitely a small definitely a small number compared to average crime of other groups nationally.

However, they don't live here. They're not from here. So like it's very easy to say you should not be here. And the fact that it's a small amount of people is not a reason to keep them here.

And and what I always wonder like how is that defensive them? How is how is that at the fense of of criminals in the country right now is that there are not that many of them as sak. okay? Are you okay with this crime or not? Doesn't matter if there's not a lot of IT and if there's not a lot of IT, that sounds really like a really easy problem to solve.

There's not a lot of IT, then they buy and to just fix IT. And he could have couple, would have one, the election, if this wasn't if if this wasn't a problem, all you had to do is say affirmatively, I see you. I agree with you.

This is super fucked up. We're going to take care of its small problem. It's a small problem. So we're going to fix that and they don't and that leads me with two things just either want to complete collapse of state capacity, which I am inclined to think it's that um or two actual desire to watch the world burn, which. I think probably if there is a little bit of that.

I will say it's at least possible to change in other cities other than seven. Isco, we mentioned the George gascon, uh, Harry says name he lost this year. So I mean, whatever dynamic LED to his defeat, neli like hopefully that can one day translate to new york.

Like I don't know what IT it'll take. Like gas gone was on the ballot the same year of a big, huge presidential election. Maybe that's what IT takes. But like IT is possible to change in big cities other than take from this scope. But not sure what IT it'll take, but hopefully IT come soon, because D A brag is insane.

I know apart, what is voting guide?

Here we go.

one of the world. And I know we have fail.

but I think going forward, we need that definite.

I know there was that gene election coming up. We got what does that matter if no one run that's another is you need good people to run and no smart people want to run for local politics. It's really hard to get him involved um sort of like a slightly related question um the media brand in take IT away tell us about the fAiling fake news media.

Yes I don't actually know what that was. But recently mornings joe hosey ka brien skii and joe scarborough um announced on their morning jao program that they had visited trump at maroo go to discuss like a immigration and other other sort of like other of the trumps platforms.

J I went to mario go to meet personally with present elect trump IT was the first time we have seen him in seven years. Mek, I think that something .

like he is trying to Normalize relations with the White house. Um and some people noticed that, uh, new son put out ratings reports about this about about this particular episode of the show. And between seven and A M eastern time, a viewership fell seventeen percent. Now this is a four hour show. IT goes from six in the morning to ten in the morning. Eastern time I believe, and apparently like because of the way people wake up in the different time zones, viewership of that show increases over the course of the four hours but um this kind of buck that trend um and the question is like why you know if there was a backlash in these number, if these numbers show a backlash, like what happened john steward call them out and little ally just is probably because you call them hitt ler.

And for those asking why we would go speak to the president left during such fraught times, especially between us, I guess I would ask back, why wouldn't wait because you said he was hit .

work and that maybe what happened? Maybe maybe we saw the sort of some of the hard left fear's ship of, uh, morning show, uh, you know kind of morning so I guess so yeah, that's what happen with .

a clip but then isn't the background? Is there's background like M S N B C itself too, right? Are they?

Yeah so so so I mean, we cover this in the last forecast, but since the election, viewership has dropped on M S B C by fifty percent. Um we know that comcast is mulling a sale of M S N B C um and I think on CNN, they're talking about major layoff. S I think that Chris wallace has already been laid off is quit things started podcast because they ouldn't give him raiser something like that. But generally looks like media not doing so great right now.

I think fox is winning. I think .

the .

twenty percent .

of percent .

yes increased since .

the election election.

That's crazy. And who wants more election? election? why? no. But it's it's .

hard to imagine like people that we're .

watching CNN .

being like now i'm just going to start watching fox and is now like I can't see that happening doesn't make much sense to me.

but I don't know. I think there's that just like middle distribution that's to go at the flow of culture and it's shifted.

That's true and interesting. Yeah, that was the election, right? Saw you saw that even in touch with people coming out for trump, he just IT felt very a leaf on the waves kind of going, whatever the tie was taking them.

I think on the morning, joe stuff is interesting that they lost be erp on at, up on that episode, because I think a big part of this decision of theirs was. Trying to fit themselves into relevance again. And it's a play for a long term.

I mean, there's a there's like a sync, which I was entirely for viewers, and then there maybe a nicer read, which is they really do want to heal and come together or whatever, but both of them conclude in the same place, which is then trying to be more of a bridge rather than a tiny little silo full of people who don't wana even look at trump. I mean, you have to be GoldenDB who doesn't say his name um and that's like kind of cringing and child dish. And there aren't that many.

The majority people are not like that. And so if you want a bigger audience, I think you have to be a bridge. You have to stay relevant.

You have to connect with the person who you may be disagree with. Of course they are onna disagree um I know on about a million things, but I think is a smart move for them. I I think I can be wrong.

I mean if if he comes down, never you are something because of also might have been discussed, then they could have the only relevant show on that program. They they I think they have to do IT at the the election ended and they lost and now they're completely iced out. And so it's like you want that access or not? And I think that they do and aim at the decision. And um I don't know if it's going to work out for them because I don't know that people are really dying for a more left in version of CNN. Um but we'll see on the surface, I see what you're saying.

The problem is, is like they're known for doing these kinds of like so trump, he is, has been friends with these guys in the past. He used to come on morning jill all the time, used to call in the show constantly limit around twenty fifteen minutes first running. And then those two swapped over to the trump s thing in hya historical reactions for the past eight years, and especially in the week clean up to the election.

They were like peak hysteria. An in in dress girl. S also, the one has said, I talked to buy and he was he was coached.

He was gravely. So they've been doing this. So i'm totally find me like a list and let's find a bridge.

Let's end this. Let's talk. I get him on the show. Love IT.

But I think like you can't believe them anymore because there are just going to try to like, you know, fit whatever mole is convenient to them, which okay, that show is like to try and get ready. And so a game respects. Game is powerful.

Ling, but I mean, like I don't blame like people we like. Fuck this. I'm out, as with the M S. MBC shows as a CNN and know and people live in.

I wonder if IT is sort of like too late for them though, because they like built their brand at least recently all around like trumped arrangement syndrome, like fans watch them because of the arrangement syndrome. So like I wonder if like, like for new emerging media, I think it's the smart play to not go for trump hysteria. But when you ve already sort of build your brand or trump asteria and people are coming to for that, like are you even able to like pivot because someone who's tried to do this recently as Chris kuma, like he was full CNN lib and I was trying to be like base poca guy. And I think I wonder if it's like sort of working for him because like people always like bring up old CNN clips all the time every time he's trying to make a point of like, oh yeah, what will happen here and so I wonder if he is like sort of like too late for them to do the .

rebrand like you've already gone .

so in like I think circles I I think .

I have interesting as we talk about IT mostly in the context of social media people but yeah of course IT is a thing everywhere and especially for them and their stuck inside of their uh the M S A B C cat mom pan opto con and they take IT out and they're trying but it's like because they know thinking ship long term, but they're stuck in there for now.

I I think it's like back to your point, two mp, which I thought was interesting yeah like how do you call someone hit learn and say, well, I just want to saw to come together it's it's sort of like, you know very jarring to see by and laughing with trump at a lunch um you know it's like, okay well is this the dissolution of you said the democracy was on the ballot. You said that like this is is a dictator um is is here or not like what are we doing here? And I I mean I just what i've always to assume that he was lying about IT. Um but I guess for the average person who maybe didn't think that he was lying about IT, that would be disorienting and hard to stomach and maybe hard to tolerate moving forward.

Emperor is no closely. You just realize, oh, this is all fake, right? If you see by and laughing up with trumpet oh wow, I really fell for something here that's pretty journ. If you're just like a simple of watching the news and turn on, you hear a stereo and M S.

N, B C would be the place that that would be the last hold out of these people. They have nowhere else to go. They're not chAllenging.

Even CNN is chAllenging. A little bit like you really have this one bubble where you could go and be like he really is heller. It's o it's okay.

He really use heller. Hiller is really dear. He's rising. You have a right to be this scared and and out of your mind. Last thought, I C.

Iller has been such a cultural touch point for the longest time. And I think that might, that might be coming to an end. We should do IT like eulogy for hiller because IT was happening here. Like IT, they ran into the ground R I P heller .

r image by shared of the twitter logos over the years and like different versions of birds and I concluded in twenty twenty two IT was IT was the x and then um and in twenty twenty five it's like the nazi eagle with a and I didn't feel any kind of way about IT IT. I didn't hit at all like like I used to hit i'm not scared IT anymore. I naughty shit online every single day in the majority like to people throwing around obviously and yeah doesn't yeah it's last is emotional shock what it's .

like the boy who cried wolf. It's like the lib who cried .

hit ler like we hate IT. But this is got a worse online. Everything is louder and scales higher. And so the sheer amount of hitler that you've seen does take away .

the room of just kind of tired, right? You're like, whatever like I think ever who was the hitler .

before there was hitler, you know what were they? Where were they? Call on people who were evil in like nineteen, I know thirty, like back when hello was rising. They are like men this guys just like who who are they saying he was just like like napoli or something maybe napoli, but there people who were like napoli was like ool IT might totally one about that is generous .

to say this persons like gang is gone like.

yeah, I get there. Okay, everything yeah I think .

you're just call them certain, right? And all the anti .

crime and they believe IT more back and yeah, but the anti crisis is one two. Now onward to the polar market segment. Polly market is a paid partner of power wires that you guys for supporting the valuable work we do here.

And IT is valuable. I think my mom says bRandy things everyone thinks, everyone saying, many saying that we're say, let's get into IT. So time my google on twenty four of the U.

S. Department of justice asked the federal judge to impose significant changes on google following a ruling that the company illegally manolo's zed, the search market. The D, O, J S. Proposal includes four main points. One, forced google to sell off its chrome browser to prove IT google for making payments to filmmakers to ensure the default search option.

Three, allow websites to opt out of having google's AI models trained on their data for either have google device from his android phone business or place the division under court supervision to prevent anti competitive practices. Now, before this news, Polly market showed only a thirteen percent chance of google actually having a cell chrome when the announcement broke the od sky rock. And need to forty percent later, settle around thirty percent where IT stands at the time of this recording.

Google strongly opposes these measures, calling them a radical agenda that would harm consumers, american uh, technological leadership and small businesses relying on their ecosystem. The company plans to find the company plans to file counterproposals next month with the hearing on remedies scheduled for April twenty twenty five. Uh, that is, I was interested to actually how low the other after the government crackdown in this way.

And I thought, is that just because? Is that just trump? That was my first, my first question of all. This is just because trumps now in powers that why the odds soaks that's thirty percent pretty low to me that this is actually what happened. Meanwhile, the government saying it's happening and you're not going get out of IT. So is that just we think that this, like a protect industry group, is going na come in or something. What would you think is happening there?

I think it's a strange target. And there are more obvious ones like youtube could be span out as its own business. Chrome doesn't make money in of itself is basically just top of the fund for google to get user data until like um fun of them, until google search and other google's products.

So I don't if you if you break crime off of google, I don't even know how IT makes any money as as a sandal in business. So for me, maybe the markets are showing you reflecting that. That is just like not not a practical um record likes of suggestion or or or or ask for the D O J, but no idea where they are, not just going to happen.

I was just going to add the same sort of question is used long or like presumably they're like on a time crum cheer because like when the trumpet administration comes in, like you would think more probe business people would sort of fill those roles and put away from this approach. So i'm with you. I think like wouldn't they need to get this done like in the next sixty days?

That's what I think maybe were betting on. I'm not convinced that trump's well, maybe here I mean, I think that he certainly is indicated. We thought a lot about um i'm a bit about this in the context of europe.

He certainly into protecting our businesses, uh, which he perceives as assets to the country, which is nice because we have a government right now that genuinely has an issue with, I think, the concept of a successful business. So businesses were targeted for anti competitive but not anti competitive, but for anti trust regulation when they harmed consumers. And that is no longer the case.

Uh, certainly that was in the case previously among lefties who were very key into the anti competitive thing. And then now in a con, it's even starker. It's IT is like you could make some strange argument that is bad for the country or something that someone is uh so dominant in the market and you could be a lot of abstract arms talk about is a lot in peace.

Was IT amazon's the amazon on antitrust paradox or something? Uh, mad you could pull up a screen shut of that. I'll link you after we're done here.

Um I mean terms vegan opposer that like he's he's he wants the companies to be as strong as they possibly can to compete globally but there is no global competition uh, on google. So I don't know that I I see him being much more defensive of american like telic heart. I see him caring more about apple, for example, than caring about google.

I don't know why he would. There is not a search giant that's dominating abroad that's going to come in and steal our lunch stairs. So I don't know that he would necessarily jump in and and put his neck out there for this company that he perceived to be, you know, political threat forever.

You also have populists all around him who are super anti tech right now. And an interesting open question of where this administrations gonna. I've seen positive signs. I've see negative signs and I really don't know actually which which way are going to go.

Well, I mean, like don't we think that the outlook for so on valley a lot Better in terms of um like acquisitions emerges a with lindon presumably out the door? Or is do we know that lindon like that's for me that's not even clear .

too because wasn't jay Evans the the old me of like is the best IT is early very yes, you have to be like super niche to start up stuff. But basically, if you're going after these huge giants, then that maybe is good for smaller upstarts. But IT speaks not at all to the danger that you face from abroad and in converse of competition.

So you're nee capping our largest companies, while china is just doing everything I can to build its largest companies to create the most unfair landscape possible for them to battle on. And so they're growing and growing and growing into these giants. And uh, we don't do that.

We don't support our companies in that way. The that I think that we could do is just not get in their way. And that is maybe what the question that we're playing out now this is what direction where we're going to go here.

I don't really think that i've never believed that competition like oh there too good at competition. That's weird. I in google created all these the chrome MC created, right like gm IT created.

I don't youtube acquired, but that was what twenty five years ago about that. I don't who cares that effectively google like it's been google forever. Um I think that there is dominant and that's not for me a good reason to intervene unless there is direct consumer harm.

And then I think i'm a little more open to IT, but we have seen this a lot and I do think that need be double click. Is this how strange that is, to have a government that seems to have a problem with the concept itself of successful businesses. They get to a certain size, and nothing else matters.

The harm does not matter, competition doesn't matter, the the healthy vitality of your country's economy does not matter. If this company, if this company is too big, if someone has too much money, that is, that is enough to go after them. And that's really bad that I think that tied into the whole self hate that you see from the the harder of the hard left that permeates all the identity politics and everything like this is like hatred of american history and things like this IT.

Is this like weird, counter intuitive thing where you just are are almost hard? Is this self legal tion or something? I'm thinking of like the the catholic cult in that like it's it's really bad.

It's really toxic. It's really new, especially on the economy side. You always have democrat hood.

They want more regulations or what, not for whatever labor reason, but they really were hoping to do as much of that as they could without hurting the business. That was always the question. It's like, you know you clearly understand this is not right.

What you're going to do as much as as you can before the business dies. And I of people coming in with you sledge hammer know like, no, the company should just die because IT should die. IT has nothing to do with labor.

IT has nothing to do with any kind of moral uh alms about um like competition or something like this. It's it's not about that. It's just there are just a target because they are um that I think will not happen under trap people.

I think the market hit all time high after trump was elected. There was a pretty significant bull run starting november forth. So I think you at least I think the market thinks that you .

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big one universe at the time of recording. So tomorrow could be a hundred k and that's going to be i'll see. But this time of our recording and is ninety eight thousand five hundred dollars for a big that is crazy? Instead that is crazy, was also crazy as you ever like, used to have entire like breadless media cycles back around twenty k no one could talk about anything else other than this. And I was just casually, I scratching ing one hundred thousand dollars a coin um yeah because your riber in the clean house and um like there's nothing in the way now and so people going and .

even good yeah uh I mean I think you with that going they can wanted to watch people hanging themselves a little a little bit that happened were and like a router trust but not to go back to the hate big business but to me is like such a shake down thing you know like people really demonize like amazon for the amount of taxes as he paid as if they don't have a responsibility to their own board to be tax efficient.

Just it's like crazy retour C I I think you probably remember like the billionaire scouse um I think all that stuff is gna shift. I don't think people are going to get smarter about like understanding why people would want to reinvest vacation to the business and just stay more taxes. But the vibe is definitely more process. Yeah, I was like .

what you were saying before to just as the cultural shifts that middle section will just shift with IT doesn't even matter why.

No IT was definitely a process. I mean uh from nomination for uh treasury is how I like this no h kind for Sherry CEO. So like definitely the pro business group is here. I mean element is introduce biton bill. So senate now know republicans are in charge, so it's it's very proper so you I don't understand this google, same thing at all, like why they've going to waste of time, my opinion. But why ask me.

it's not what you to do.

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And we're back to the greatest show on the internet, its paradigm. Or in the semi finals, it's andy and miles head to head, each leading a segment. Very excited. Let's just first for walking back the two of you. Thank you.

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having me and you thank you for coming. Let's just get with miles europe. First, you are leading our segment on the roller darky break IT down. I think by now, we are all aware .

of the vive shift that's occurring by hear some of the highlights from the past years. So early on we saw the brave frg guys at U. C.

Protect the flag from the I. Heart homos protesters. We agency mails Carry the republican party, the selection of forty nine percent of gentlemen voting for trump.

We got john Jones representing his U. F. C. Belt to trump, which is lindy like a gladiator, swearing a sore to the emo after cause I image we had N F L players sitting the trump dance.

We also got the boys, elon and trump and rf k wearing private jets and big max, which is there are to be a humiliation natural for rf K I aggress. Essentially, men are so back. But the former twitter account, the guardian is not stoked on IT. Carol caught volador according to terminate roller archi and publish a cheat sheet, if you will have twenty rules, you must follow if you want to arrive the innocence of the brows some of my personal favorites from the list are, make sure you take a note rule ten, listen to women of color rural eleven think of your personal data as new self is the best one is rule fourteen paying cash. Asked yourself, what would an international drug traffic or do and do .

that the garden of stupid. They deleted their twitter are they left? They left twitter are which we talked about.

Uh, I think last week we went through some of the highlights there. Um I do want to add something here that feels probably a little bit IT south inflated autistic. I I wrote a peace about the billet tario and I feel like this is cribb from me.

This feels like the leftest bizarre world version of that story. It's like mine was even think about what you're talking. It's like the pilati adverse, the oligarchy, right? So i'm talking about the people are rising and they're like the small cabal of evil people are in charge. Of course, what they really talking about is uh, separate from the sort of mean the boy thing um they're talking about what like elon mosque, they are talking about trump doing what guy quoted things, I guess.

And um this is inherently threading, which is funny because I think they really do think that I think they do think that there is something inherently threatening about guys just guys being guys acting like guys liking guy things that code says to them danger, which probably says more about like the last five years I think that IT says about anything they think I do want to add just one final thing before I kick this over the u exam. Curious what you think about this specifically as our, as our women today like to give that we perspective. I wanna know a what this is a british woman writing for a british journal telling what americans how to survive like who asked you like what? Why is your own fucking business? No one is over here talking about your weird teeth.

No one is over hear talking about the fact you have a Cliff in the U. K. Now, like no one cares.

We were on this side of ocean. You're on that side of the ocean. We fought a war for IT.

Like why are you still talking? I don't understand. Eat, what do you think?

Oh, man. Um yeah the broader k on one hand, you might think like I would be so great. Top someone as intelligent as you on volte communicator .

like rogan .

you know some of IT it's like it's horribly unsexy 欢迎 guys like .

I don't want .

to be in that room and they don't come at the picture .

of them and of the deject like a mcDonald .

jet yeah yeah no， I look at IT. I'm just like how are they going to how are they going to shift culture in a way that completely screw this up? Because we have this like army of like pick me like coming out the wood works like my body is a choice.

Like this is just got to like.

so bad, so bad. It's like a like sense to eagles, but it's like the brows.

I think it's also there's something funny to me about a peace says like and just the house in general, which we've been talking about you know for a bit now I does seem to get worse and worse among a small class of people, which is like the people who run the media. The specific kind of woman actually, who writes is what IT seems like to make. She's telling you to be to be fearing for life.

basically. This is literally how to survive the broader ari. And I just feel like it's how do you tell people their life is in danger and then try and coin a word like brother garci and say that's a thing that you should be fearing.

But IT seems to me like maybe they don't even believe in themselves like they do. There is like looking for something to say, which is kind of how I feel that all of these uh the the administrative choices that trumps been making where where at like level nine for every single one of these nominations. I remember we've ever even talked about them during the bide ministry.

There are one or two would be notice, but most of these things are just not discuss because no one cares. These are being dissected and dissected and amplified, and its whole new cycles around each one. I think today, gates just step down after a whole sort of days of talking about him.

It's just, yeah, we're nine. I think because people are looking for stories because they really have to kind of maybe validate the story they've told over the last year, which is that hillyer is coming to power and hillis coming to power. And then all we're seeing is this picture of a bunch of dudes on a playing big max IT.

Just that doesn't add up to me. I don't miss you want to talk about, uh, some of these these choices. They are right?

Yeah I was I mentioned the my doctor is is a new choice, which is funny.

And I think that was real. I saw that before. I thought that that was just like someone mean. And what was he tapped in for .

ahead of medical medicine.

which is OK? Yeah, I don't know. So I remember .

the debate there asking trump about what this plan and been funny is like my planet is doctor us but he's more just like wants to privatize. He was very big on medicare advantage. He just wants to privatize medicare as much as possible.

But I don't know. I'll be cool to see though, like the department of government efficiency, like really, I don't be cool, but see what they could do with medicare. And been so big now and the enlaced mic man .

was the is doctor was going to require like all medicare patients to take his like fake supplements. you.

All I know about doctor oz, I do two things. One, my mom, to talk a lot about him back in the upper days. And IT was just, I associate him with like, just TV knowledge.

Yeah, this one of these like TV knowledge, people just imparting knowledge about healthier, whatever. I just don't listen. And then two, he ran against fetterman and lost.

And I I think that he lost because he crudity right in my mind. That's why he lost. He lost because he talked about crudity and they had him talking about cruddas and how to create like, a great fruit platter.

Or maybe he was, even he did like, so this is totally fake news. This no actually would happen, but in my memory would happen is he didn't add for his campaign. IT was some kind of TV spot something. And he was in a grocery store and he was putting together, yes, his the through the day, right? So is a broccoli is .

too much not the kind of broccoli there?

There's nothing that's four dollars running for this enter of pennsylvania, which is is an entertainer.

I mean, but like what kind of how bad of a candidate you need to be to lose like a fucking stroke?

Yeah, I agree. I agree.

I mean, this is what I mean, fetterman is way Better now. He's like actually kind of made like a kind of a macular ous recovery but I mean, dude, IT was that yeah.

he did. I would say though he's still in not that bright and also a slab and it's offensive to in congress see you in hoody. I don't want to see IT like that's not i'm on a pocket. I can dress whatever I want, congressman like a senator rather you d like you have to go there and be a senator like represent us. It's embarrassing like a much .

the party .

that talks about their norms to be Normal.

Well, he's like the ani democrats now. So that's true, I guess. And I also wanted to be consistent because I thought he was I thought he was like a dumb slobber sort of person before and I I don't want us to hear me like, oh, that was great now because he slightly because he took the huge step to say that the terrorism was bad in a moss and and like, what's the other one he's on recently?

Like the democrats run about campaign OK like not to be a rocket scientist to understand that. So i'm not giving IT. I'm not ready to give IT to him.

I am not ready to give IT to him, right? I want you in the shed. Give me something. Tell me the broad, give me the, give me your perspective on the .

roller jarque.

So just on how did you actually add something i'm in that this is, this is for the audience. My mom watches the show and he told me that I need to do a Better job of inviting rally because SHE likes him. She's his biggest fan. She's been SHE been and she's like he's really developing. They are rightly so.

You yeah that I fans up there is go will say that I will say on the on the topic .

of how we got to this this .

stage of the billa archi wonder how much of IT is just a vibe shift like the pendula swing back after the days of me too in the lectures about the pajaro. Like I still think back to that. Like you guys remember that like geek commercial from a far years back that was like lecturing about like toxic masculinity ity like you contrast that with like now of like u fc fighters and frack guys doing the trump dance. Like that's a complete one eighty poll shift from where we were like five years ago. I wonder if it's sort of a reaction to where we were.

It's definitely at it's a reaction. But the way are you saying the the the the performative masculinity is the reaction? I I think what is interesting in measure, like how an oculus is it's frame is dancing.

It's not that big of a deal. But those really were the kinds of things that were being attacked just a few years ago, like we were inflaming rap, is doing a dance with frays gang raping a person at a frac party. And then IT turns out the gangs wasn't even real. Totally made up story.

I thought the and fell thing was pretty interesting because like the end of players openly dancing on the field, like that doesn't really happen. Like one and val player named both of war maga hat years ago, never hear of IT and the same like nfl sunday like three or four players are doing IT. Like they're definitely .

comfortable doing that's like that's .

a huge y ship that they do.

And so I saw the serve cultural stuff bubbling up about that topic, and I thought i've definitely seen the nfl crackdown on all sorts of stuff flies or everything.

Do a little bit brave. They through a flag .

yeah like regular dancing, just regular performance, let alone something political like that. Um why is that? I have no .

study of the control players. Sports talk, I will be leaving my house.

They don't want to fend their .

audience about sport. They don't to do.

I don't want to fend their audience. They don't want, like to lose. They want people seeing them doing .

the trump dance I don't want .

to watch and I .

fell work because right? But the broader thing.

and they like people, people during the during the new regular, I guess we're calling IT now national anthem, but you know so I don't know, man. I mean, that seems like they are quite willing to offend like certain people.

I don't here to this. There is .

second versions.

We make everyone .

is a national lancome. Let's talk about I listen, it's been a great episode loving the parodied segment. What we really, really need to talk about, uh, thanksgiving is obviously it's coming up.

It's just, uh, what a few friday. So probably you are all traveling like a few days from now, monday, tuesday or something. And specifically, what we need to talk about is the toxic thanksgiving uncle of your nights res, which I think we got a couple in this chat. Any I would like you to break this topic down for us today.

For sherman, the basic theme of this is people need to calm the fuck down. People need to calm down. This all like reaction to the election is absolutely crazy. And I think the latest example of this is all the women, mostly women with respect, eat, you are deciding the day.

The women have decided to skip the holiday now because their families voted for truth and they cannot be .

around them.

Do you might have to do yourself so?

So evidently we've got sixty .

five percent of americans who are a saying they've got like election related stress and that is impacting their holiday plans news week as this article entitled women are boycotting with their trump supporting family and man is this impact with some fun quotes apparently there's this woman ana gant um who was on tiktok and went viral with this clip where SHE said, you know i've made the decision for myself and my fiancee and our child to skip out family holidays with my family that voted for trump um continuing on saying like you know it's not that their republicans is the fact that they've voted for all trust knowing who is and what he's capable of ve, you've got I recommend everybody .

check out this article. I don't I artic cloud, this is making of space, but this is kind of intergenerational ick. Is that what the interesting thing about all of this is that we have concurrently stories about what could potentially be the biggest travel day in history.

They said that we're about to break records for the many of people that are traveling around the maki ving. So it's like it's just nose. These people I don't know that these people are really themselves a lot, lot of things like a mass movement. This is people writing about a mass.

I will also say um just the idea that if you voted for trump, your voting against people like me or whatever like to be in my family there's no one in my family who's a violent Venus well in like illegal immigrant and that and that's the only person on boating like that is I would understand if IT was that dude who we were talking about earlier who was assaulting the assistant da in new york city and he's about to be deported and he didn't want to thanks giving with me like I I and country. So it's like it's a trade there, I think. But yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't think it's think of I look at maybe i'm just naive, optimistic or something, but I just sort of don't believe it's real. I don't believe you.

right? Actually, I really don't. I mean, this is this is a sort of thing that like jo goes by on on social media because because it's so like crazy over rot. And you know yes, there is a people who are no, they're pissed off about the election results and stuff like that. But you know like in the end, you know people really are able to just kind of like put this stuff side and and get along with each other, but does .

not find this article argo because yes.

they do yeah and yeah they have they have a kid, at least I think it's one kid who's in college and you know he was like SHE wrote to him and and was like, you know talking to him about about, I don't know, trying to talk him off the ledge to which means that this chick is totally done the number on this kid's head um but yeah yeah they do. So if women aren't .

actually boycott their thanksgiving, are they boycott sex? Did you guys see that?

Oh, yes, about .

anymore. Talk about I made the point last week in the podcast. I was like we're not going to be talking about this in two weeks of its fake and I anything about four bees .

since bees probably more real than people not going to someone's house for thanksgiving and thankful ving. I don't know, maybe everyone is families is different in mind, but there I can't think of a thanksgiving where there wasn't like some slightly awkward thing that was in play that people had to navigate. That's just what having a family of any kind of family, friends extended in our community.

That's what IT is so funny, and he is fun of spite. I love that drama. I love IT. I ready for IT.

Who is matter who and why and like what are we talking about? Though I didn't remember, IT would always to conclude when I was really Young. Those like like desert and ghostly ies, there are always somehow ghost's ies that I might aint paddy specific story tell.

But you, I feel like you would have an interesting insight on this because you are working at thought at aloe e for years back in the day. And I think of this kind of how to deal with your toxic thanksgiving. Unclear whatever stories, it's a genre of content. And for a long time, this is not a new thing since .

the beginning of internet time. Yes, I don't know if IT existed before that, but I think it's a unique um like digital thing.

Yes, it's like a general of internet content. Yeah what do you think is what do you think is the the thing behind the thing .

here feeling artistic people who want attention to say like they say something somewhat shocking and and other people and I think they voice um I think they are a voicing like the anxieties of miles you know how to argue with their you know with with their with their family or or whatever and like inside like they choose friends giving know justifies friends giving um I don't know I think it's just like narcissus timah .

you know I mean the other thing is do you have to argue with your your family about the election? Like do you have .

to know I want if they throw in your face, if they throw the I thought i'm not trying to read the stuff because I know that I you i've been training I live on the internet so it's like i've been training under tex gravity and is someone who's not really that into shit hasn't a pinned my older brother, for example, and he decides he's going to throws some uninformed opinion out at me?

I don't want to start that conversation because I know i'm going to come in hot. I'm not going to control myself. I think that they started.

yes. I think I think what started, it's, it's, it's hard to keep on the rails like I know this thanksgiving for sure. Um man, i'm going about my all my family's business right now.

Uh, I won't get IT somewhat. My mom and my sister, one of them voted for trump and one of them absolutely did not vote for trump. And this has been a bubbling drama for a while now because they they like my mom specifically like really needs to explain why she's doing IT.

And um what is the kind of keep initiating the conversation and my sister is this kind of person who really doesn't want to talk about IT but also does really have strong opinions. They are both intelligent women. They are both very strong women. And ah I just know if there's going to be a fight about trump. I know IT I I know hit more than I know almost I can't even more than I know anything else is going to happen and it's giving those who are gonna have a fight about trump at some point and and i'm .

going to be there through a piece of like that post lady.

Yes, it's really at some he's going to hope I proxy to like, be a part cooking.

I started cooking. My and d create too much chaos in the kitchen and just stressed me out. And so I just completely took over. And the cooking about cooking for thanksgiving is you get to opt out of everything and just open in whenever you want, really on your terms because you have a job and you're busy and everyone's very thankful for that. And so you just like you have a free pass.

I have a theory for why the political talk has become like so unavoidable recently. And I think it's because like we just these days have like so few to talk about other than politics. Like there used to be a point when like everyone watched like math or something on TV or like everyone saw the movie that was in there's then or like listen at top forty radio. I think culture is much less homogeneous now. And so it's sort of left like nothing to talk about other than like politics because is the .

one like every so that's really interesting touch point. Everyone knew something. And so just out of almost social anxiety, you want to raise the thing that everybody knows about.

yes, these. You want to sports to like sports games around the beautiful .

game on in my family, I come from a family of lawyers. We we are always arguing politics and philosophy and stuff anyway. And even though we are all, we're not like a politically divided family, we're all on the right.

We all have sort of like you know really like varying takes on you conservative or you know in my case like sort of conservative libertarian politics. And um so even though we're all like basically on the same side, there's still in an awful lot of arguing. And my mom and I get the most headed about stuff.

So it's always a fun time at the the jone's household. Look who cakes my mom. My mom could.

Well, some of us will. Yeah yeah. SHE still still works too. So .

she's .

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want to say like we .

wanted to give advice， some of our our listers, if you're the uncle .

at at the thanksgiving, what do you I am and my advice to you is don't pick a fight you're not prepared to fight because like if you come unprepared, you're going to lose. And that's really what brand and yours were of touching up before. It's like these people who are not the reason have anxiety about IT because they're not prepared.

Talk to people who are actually well read and well research. And I ve thought about these things a lot themselves and just simply disagree. That's the kind of conversation that not used to they're not used to going into an enviro like that.

So that is my advice. The toxic alcohol thing is all about asking questions. Oh, that's an interesting that what you find that out.

So why do you think that think we told you that? Oh, no. Would you feel that way about this other related thing? interesting. And you just like let them go and they they .

know that they're wrong.

The method is uncle, anyway, they know that you're wiser and smarter and Better and they're trying actually, I who did just the last last thanksgiving, so we have not quite gone there. But we were on the way back to the to the airport and SHE asked what my politics were and I was like, oh girl, you know this is not just have to do this.

don't have to .

which on SHE would be like thirteen and and SHE um but like very like very like I mean lives on a socialist like island.

It's like I mean you it's rich person's island like the middle class have a family, but they live on this like beautiful island off the coast PC surrounded by like very laughing ing people and I just thought, ah we're going next year is going to be banger because your entry high school, you going to have opinions are, you're gonna know for sure, as certain as I was, you're going to be that certain about how right you are about things. But your eyes are right. Just have this at all. Anyone, I mean, are you is all just like the passive sort of not obviously not you, but like maybe a brain to you strike me like a peace maker .

yeah I don't want to argue with. I have like bad like factory call and I have somebody in my family who I love very much and like who has very he has like very in cyclists digicall. And so you can put its like very it's very surface level, right? So i'll just like recite old things that happens and I can't fact I am in real time and like, I know he's wrong but i'm just like, well yet like, okay like that's a good point prompted say this one racist thing at one point but I don't know you know but yeah I like them more .

passive and I try not I know friends all in a CIA. They have their person in the back room like telling them what to do and .

stuff yeah I know me. Me, my mom are like very different people and like always kind of have the same natural position on things. There's not really that much just like this harmony, Frankly, at my table kind of.

is you the peace maker? Are you the one .

throwing bombs? And I was small family. So we talk about politics too much, but I know my there is a very like left wing, but every time I try to up trying to argue with her but she's not going for i'll probably be the incident to be honest.

Um well, I I guess we're writing down here if you don't have any final comments about thanksgiving in the bank of the target uncle warning signs, how to deal with anything out there we've got.

I don't know. I guess my my parting words are just every body called down okay, it's going to be okay. Like, you know, he he ready did to four years.

They weren't any camps that they weren't any trains. They were lucue. Nobody was getting pulled off the street and taken away from you. And that's not gonna en this time either. Well.

unless you're a violent veness, well an okay.

well, i'm not talking to them. But yeah, yeah.

you're going. My neighbors got to go. My neighbors got to go.

Advice for thanksgiving.

Oh, man, I mean, i'm from the farming families. People going to agree with each other. 嗯嗯， i don't know you guys meanly talk about portion.

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just did though I love you .

like i'm having an abortion right now.

Yeah, that's a good one, good guys. That's your device. But in all honesty, seriousness, have a great holiday.

Stay safe uh again at a rate we matched the tough epsom, but we are gonna off for thanksgiving with our families who we love um and thank for bearing with us while we air all of viral laundry on the pie wise podcast. It's been real. Have a good weekend and see what we're back.