Hurricane Milton, Trump/Kamala On Media Tours, & Is Elon Really The Presidential Candidate?!
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What's up, guys? Welcome back to the pod. We have a paco for you today, first of all, over the top of the hurricane. Stay tuned uh, a little later for our polymer segment. Were going to look at the polls between kala and trump that are widening now and not poll, sorry, the betting markets where things have widen the widen the pulls as well.

I think the pulsars are just starting to uh to reflect what the see really addicted gamblers ers argue and where the type of the discourse, I think A A lot today surrounding the hurricanes are some funny things there and some are funny things there. We're gonna to all of them. I think first up, just what happened. So uh, two weeks after HEllen, one of the largest hurricane recorded history formed in the gulf, we were looking at a category five IT was and then wasn't and then was again um there was a one weird stories sort of I think I was a little bit of fear mongers thing, like should we will be creating a category six and what does that look like?

I think they were saying if there was over one hundred and ninety eight miles power winds or something may be to be considered that but I think this tapped out around one hundred and eighty or so um but I was crazy we knew as IT was going to hit the Flora gulf coast um IT was gona dip down to about a category three but the question was where was gonna hit and IT looks for a while as if I was gonna IT tamper which would have been a directed on a very crowded coastal city the first of which we've seen in I don't know, I think since Katrina would have been a three that hit new orleans and I think that people were not really prepared for the kind of damage that was going to do. IT ultimately touched down in season a just a little bit south of tampa. And um we are still kind of assessing the damage at that this point recording with its thursday.

There are not there is not a lot coming out of the area. My sister is listen tampa with her family and they are evacuated. They're all in my place in miami. They have not been able to to see the damage.

And I think that's probably what's happening right now as of thursday, probably over the weekend, you're going to start to get a sense of a of the disaster and I think it's going to be pretty bad. Um we were looking at, you know enormous winds. We were looking at one crazy thing, I think as as IT as IT approached the coast after you know days, we were watching this thing.

Tornado is just across the southern part of the state, like something out of the fucking apocalypse um even in miami, which was the one weird pocket that was safe IT was crazy to see people say, uh, you know take safety and have a map showing you sort of what was safe and what wasn't and I think that was not safe was all of the flood depends la. Um just up yeah massive, massive, massive storm still figuring in out what's uh what's going on there. I do wanna talk a bit about I think as we wait to see more about you know the damage just the way that we talked about IT.

And I think that one interesting thing that always what happens with these crazy heritages is if they're in the midst election, right? So we have to talk about the various conspiracy theory that are floating around. Um we have to talk about global, I think, and we have to talk about just a straight political sort of the feeling I would say at this point between camelon rasin is on the topic of this hurricane involves biden really once you um want you started with that story, just teed up in and tell us what's going on.

Yeah so um in case guys didn't get the memo, the first thing that you're supposed to do when a deadly storm is approaching is to immediately think about how you can fit that into your politics. It's not look for shelter. It's not you know any of those things. That's politics first so um and like you said, you had actual politicians taking this approach uh with commonly trying to make a big deal about rodes's tis not taking her call with hurricanes elton approaching something he called quote uteri irresponsible um to say that just responded by saying, look, you've been like vice president for three and a half years you've never called me .

about a storm and i've been in touch with both feet on the president as well as marching all our state agencies and working to support our local communities and so for commons Harris uh to try to say that my soul focus on the people of florida is somehow selfish uh is delusional. He has no role in this a in fact, she's been vice president for three and a half years. I've dealt with a number of storms under this administration. SHE has never contributed anything bitten .

himself confirmed that and said the senators had been quite very gracious coordinating with the White house on the hurricane. So I come look clearly trying to like leverage that for politics. Um you had media outlets as well as just like everyday people on x um trying to politicize this.

Of course the climate change takes coming in from the left um when Helen happened, I remember the guardian had an article about IT like affecting the campaigns of like tromp in J D vance um is like calling them climate deniers essentially implying they like got what they deserved um but on the other side of the coin, ued people implying that the storm was created by the government um possibly to interfere with the upcoming election like you said and stop fda obviously a red state from voting um so yeah well multon itself like thankfully didn't end up being as catastrophic as I could have been. Still a lot of damage, obviously, but not like a category fied direct hit on tampa. The storm of like insane takes on the internet did, however, very much live up to expectation.

I want to start with the with the ran com ala stuff so that was um I was really a surprise that he did IT. I was surprised that SHE so the story broke down with um IT seems like one of ron staffers told the press that they had received a call from comment that they didn't answer. Koala then was asked about this and he said quite a lot and this is now in the middle. The storm is bearing down on the gulf coast.

We don't know what it's going to hit IT seems like it's gna hit tamper IT seems like it's gonna a three or four and IT does we're talking about like massive carnage if that happens and destruction unlike anything again we've seen in in korea and um and he calls himself fish and says, you know we should be putting politics aside times like this and just doing what the people need in the again sort of there's the obviously which is just that this is in her job and there is this enduring curiosity I have over like is he in charge or not because she's having in both weights, right? We're supposed to say SHE was leading the the the uh the country for four years and don't you dare say that he wasn't a part of that. If you do um you know it's sexist.

You sort of taking away the authority that he has but then also like she's a runnings, a change candidate, you have walked literally on stage saying things like we can handle for more years of this referred to the bide administration that he is a part of. So you know, pick a lane. Are you in charge or are you not in charge? I think in the case of harrick is pretty clear which is not in charge. The person who is is um was the president, the fema and there's the governor and this is dance that we see in every single election. And IT usually goes the same way.

IT usually involves um by partisan CoOperation that is uh really loved by the press and by the people who doesn't love that the time of a crisis you saw that um remember the one that comes to mind is uh Chris cristi also during election um coordinating with brack obama at the time in an absolute big public way that many republicans were upset about because they felt like a cost um they cost the election uh you you've seen run over the years, coordinate with every single I mean with both trump and biden and and I was just I was surprised that he walked into this in the way that he did. He even then took a call that SHE recorded with the mayor of saying petter's burger sort of again trying to pretend that he had some sort of role here. You don't see that from trump because it's not true.

And well, who knows what trump l do? I ouldn't not have been surprised if you throw himself in there in some sort of stupid way. But but I expected, um I do not expect the commons handlers to be a little more savy than this. IT looked really, really bad. IT still looks bad. They're of not letting you go again by releasing the the mayor footage and and um uh the the mayor of same Peters burger was sorry um that was uh IT just seems like he doesn't quite get IT like you weren't a part of this there was a crisis happening your boss three under the bus and brand and you might have some thoughts about this something you go but I do wanted to circle back to that piece neck which is um you know the joe biden of at all because IT was crazy the way that he just straight up smacked IT down like no the root he was being asked about her he he was SHE this thing happened with her is that true? And he was like no multiple times actually and now the two of them were like, you know, trading compliments back and forth looks terrible for brand.

What you think I was just about to affect at you in real time? Let's go. This is forgivable, apparently.

So i'm looking on this week right now, three three hours ago, literally trump IT out of video um just like wishing everybody um hoping everybody is safe and like doing the standard thing. But he also said that he is in contact with with the santis. But I told you.

I stopped and I said, I wouldn't be surprised if you .

did something stupid. Yes yeah. why? I don't think it's that stupid just like I been in contact with and I was like one looks IT .

was like five seconds of it's also different but it's also so different to be like I am wishing you the best .

and how can I help yeah and I guess my my take is another it's kind on the obvious side. But if I mean, obviously, commoner's behaviour around the hurricane was super cynical and political. But if I think if you just put yourself in the santis shoes, you probably you can you don't have any time to talk to somebody.

Who just wants to do um a sort of communications move and put that in their sort of like back pocket and promoted later as like I talked us to the santis and you like it's just not useful. You're probably actually trios ing every minute of your time as this hurricane proof es. And I I think probably the santis was probably just like I actually don't have time to talk to somebody who has doesn't have any valuable information to give me right now. Um and so I think that pretty much those two things explain the the interaction and i'm sure that know the entities would have time for biden because biden probably does have something valuable to um to say or contribute uh to the recovery efforts what he did and .

yeah and they they always do this. We always see this this the relationship between the president and the governor during a disaster and and it's it's very important in hasty with I think funding is part of IT, just like resources in general as part of IT.

And think part of IT also is um is just the I think people are really scared if you're not if you've never X A lot of people not from florida or familiar with florida or familiar with storms, I think don't fully understand how dangerous this is. Um we're talking about like entire as if you took a rag and you're just wiping out entire parts of of the state like all the houses were like protecting mean anywhere from ten to fifteen foot storm surge is a many, many people probably did. We we have I think a dozen plus at this point are confirmed.

But the hurray e hit yesterday uh during middle the night. So it's going to take a minute before we know how people have died. Many people have died already. Um and the the real thing is I think in terms of what you are saying, branding like he's busy.

They were evacuating millions of people at that point out of tampa bay, which also I think most americans will realize how big it's a real city, right? It's like there are millions of people in the tampa bay region. Um you have the entire state evacuating. There's nowhere to go that safe on the pencil other than like the southern tip, a little dot in miami and then you gonna go way up north um close to the other close to close to the border is like the next safest spite so so it's it's like a master accidence and um and he wants to have a photo up again obviously frustrating, but I am surprised that he thought he was going to be able to like eat a Victory out here.

Just one point on the the biden thing. So I guess and I just saw this before we started the pod, but I guess biden has since said um that when he was like praising descanted s and stuff for the hurricane effort he he said he didn't know the desk tis uh have rejected comments call earlier so sort of like trying to save face there um and maintain this like turning into a partisan narrative um but he said .

I don't think so I I I even .

read the article but I don't think so what .

I mean there is a growing conspiracy theory or a theory let's call IT um that he hates carmilla and the staffers were at war IT was you know IT was him mbaru trump pad IT was him pacing around the scientist after the call IT was him. I've noticed there um very kid into counter programming. Um so cAllen we're going to top us in a minute. Been on this press M A SHE was on the view, I think, when I delivered an address, I believe, about the hurricanes. Uh, and you've seen this sort of building, and that's the rumor is they just they really don't like each other at this point.

But I read a rumor from a really bad right wing guy, his name's jack bike, to know the sky, as I think he he might have. Like.

I seen his tweet. I don't know him.

I think he invented, I think he was like, the guy that did this again, really.

I think so. So royalty.

yeah, yeah, a royalty in the retardation sphere. And he alleged jill bian staff had a physical altercation with the with commons staff recently at the White house. It's on his twitter account and trying to find IT right now what something .

to believe IT because it's funny. So that's that's that for me that's how we're deciding that one. Um I don't I mean, I don't know if I I don't know IT to true it's like a rumor I have to worth remember to read IT if you want to .

read IT i'm trying I can't find a tweets some million times a day.

I see people tweet me.

I'm Milly, one hour into his timelines. crazy. I think I may be fine .

as I don't get at me. And my style of tweet is one a day and they all go viral. That's how you do IT around here. And I think the other piece .

of this .

that's interesting, actually, so I want to move on past mona piece for a second. We will get to her pure, commonly discoursing a bit separate the harricane. But also on the hurricane.

You saw the rise of this. And this is going to a huge story, by the way. And I knew IT as IT was happening.

I was slacking everybody on a team days ago. I was picking up on actually pick up on that for the first time in alan. And I was surprised I didn't pick up speed there.

There is a belief among a certain subset of IT seems like the right that believes the hurry icons are being you know there's a there's a broad range of ideas in the space of hurricane craon um conspiracy. I think some people believe that the government is doing something to them to make them stronger and sending them to to people. There are some people who believe the government is straight up creating the hurricanes.

Um a lot of this has to do with radar like these lines that you see in the radar shots that they're just like, look, it's a line that clearly goes from this place very quickly to this hurricane. Um obviously, they're being created. Margry Taylor Green has been involved in his conspiracy theory a jining IT up to a certain extent and IT is, of course, become a misinformation story.

It's frustrating because it's very crazy and most people don't believe IT, but it's being used as know yet another reason why we have to shut down discussion of things online um and that's always tell these really just evocative examples of disinformation are used their their sort of lifted up to to say you shouldn't be able to speak IT is a stupid theory um however, there is so here's what's true. What's true in the context of the global warming discussion and the government's creating these hurricanes discussion is um the gulf of mexico. The water in general is warmer.

We've talked about that before. I was in miami, I member last september. So not this one I just passed, but the one a year ago, I was at the beach and the water was like a hundred and something degrees, which I didn't think was possible.

genuinely. I I thought that that was not a thing that could even happen. And I thought men, and like the hurricanes are gonna be really bad.

What is waiting for a bad when the hurricanes intensify over warm water? We know this. The warmer is it's not a direct correlation, but um IT has a huge flow influence on the size and power of the hurricane.

So what is warming this? I believe we do know people might disagree with me, but I just I don't agree with you prehaps fully um. The question is like, why is that? And democrats generally have the upper hands here.

And I think they're correct that we have contributed to a certain extent. I think there are some natural warming. I think we probably also contributed by pumping carbon into the atmosphere. But recently, brand, I believe that you were looking into this so you can maybe break IT down. There was an environmental regulation that was putting into place that prohibited these software and fuel, I believe and um and we need to talk about the impact that has had on the warming water as well. So if you could break that down for us.

Yesterday was an agreement in twenty twenty or new regulation put out in twenty twenty by the international maritime organization um and IT drastically reduce soft dioxide emissions um by global shipping containers, mostly in the in in the atlantic ocean the the intent was to improve um air quality produced air air pollution um but it's IT had an unintended consequence IT actually reduce the cooling effect that a sofa dioxide emissions have uh which a paper publish the nature and twenty twenty four alleges cause and actual and abrupt increase in global warming so the the regulation of basically had the opposite effect of its intent um some background on the science tier sofa dioxide increases the reflectivity of clouds and so when we had a lot of sulfur doxy in the atmosphere above the atlantic, the clouds were just reflecting more sunlight which had a cooling effect on the climate now that we reduced silver dioxide by eighty percent in north landing shipping. Uh all of that or a lot more of A A lot more sunlight is actually hitting the ocean and warm in the ocean and um and the paper alleges that there there has been an increase in ocean temperatures because of this very regulation.

This is fascinating obviously. Um this what you what you're effectively talking about is geo engineering by accident. So you've like proven out you've prove in out that statute, eric aircell injection is a method of cooling the planet.

And this is something that I just continue to be very excited about. Is this the entire space of je engineer? You have the big sort of scary one, the people talking about giant solar shields and things like this to cool the whole planet or whatever.

But you just don't need to do all of that like clearly, we've been doing IT by accident for a while. It's like the republicans are always not all you know in in general, you see lot of denial on the right that the people have an impact on the planet at all. On the left, what you see is an obsession with the fact that we have impacted on the planet.

But then they sort of forget that they believe that humans can impact the planet. Like if we have had an impact on the planet, that means that we have agency over the natural world, which we do. We have and we do.

There are things that we can do to the planet that changed the environment. And this is where maybe the sort of like rightwing conspiracy theorists about the government controlling the weather, which is wild, considering they don't believe global warming. Um have a little bit they're like there there's like a if they were the story was a metaphor, they would be roughly correct. The government IT was actually palmer um very had a funny post about this um the the government did control the government is responsible for the harrick.

In a way, if the government government regulation has LED to the end of sulfur in in the atmosphere, which is LED to warmer to warmer waters, then that they are in part that regulation is in part responsible for these giant hurricanes and that's a conversation that no one seems prepared to have because again, it's the right is very incentive right now, incentivised right now to um deny that any this is even happening while the left is really you know obsessed with more regulation for the environment and um and focusing on the fact that we've created the problem, uh but really not open to any solutions other than we have to use less energy, which is only that's a solution. That's just a recipe for masturbation, I would say, throughout mostly the third world and we're not doing that. So we're in this weird deadlock.

But I want this i'm interested in this in this path between the two global warming, these courses where yeah we we accept that we have had an impact on the world, and then we try have a Better impact on the world. This is what we learned. As I learned about global warming the first time decades ago, I immediately applied IT to mars.

I got me excited about a foreign world. If we have changed our planet by increasing the amount of carbon in the atmosphere, and that warm is the planet, then there's a path. Do this elsewhere.

IT is a path. terrible. Ming, but Terry forming can happen here.

That as well. And I think he needs to. And that's now what we're talking about.

IT. IT is very crazy to me that we learned this. This was nature.

I mean, is didn't nature just endorse? Was the nature of scientific american that endorsed calm of president? These are left wing. These are left wing journalist.

And even if they did, I mean, we've seen super lewin suffer them for years like these are places that you're supposed to. These are reputable sources, right? I mean these studies are real.

We really did this. The regulation really happened. We really start stopped releasing software into the atmosphere and the planet really warmed.

Um and and now we have some consequences that you know you can maybe said, I don't want to say that it's a one one we know for sure that this happened in all these hurricanes are happening. But I think there's a link there are worth expLoring. And certainly, there's an impact that we can have that we can make to call the planet.

There are all sorts of people working on this on the um on the private side, trying to sort of get geo engineering companies off the ground doing things like status here, ero injection, temporary measures to put more sofer in the atmosphere and call the planet we need to start looking at this stuff if if you're serious about this is actually my this is my line on IT if if you say that you're serious about global warming as a problem, you want to you're afraid of what we have done to the planet. You are afraid of the warming air, the warming waters. You are afraid of the rising sea levels, you afraid of the hurricanes.

You accept all of those things, and you're not interested in the engineering at this point. That says to me that you're lying. That said to me that you don't actually believe in global warming.

You just want to reduce energy consumption and that's your primary goal. Um and and I think I really do believe in a global warming. I really do believe that we had an impact and I really do believe have to do something .

about IT really what you think about this yeah just on the software versus space lasers creating and so reminds me of like covet when you had some on the like the very far out there saying, um china cooked up a bioweapon and uni on amErica and then you had like a few steps below that, which was like nobody we did have this lab over here and they were doing research on like a more scientific back argument for IT and it's like both of those got lumped into the same argument. And if you even like, dipped your toes en to one, you automatically got lumped with the other. I think that's a very somewhere thing that we see going on here.

Yeah IT IT happens. You know, I think I probably participated IT in IT myself, unfortunately to a certain extent because there are really are a lot of people who believe the government is controlling these hurricanes right now. There are enough that I think it's it's not fair to use this in the way that obviously the left is now is using in a throughout the media.

Um but I mean there are people who believe this. I I don't know why biden is talking about. I don't know that this is the other thing. It's like people are saying it's dangerous misinformation. I'm not actually sure how it's dangerous. I'm not actually sure it's like knowing st saying the hurricanes coming everyone was saying get the fuck out of dodge like you don't want to be here when this thing hits um there is a question of whether you know ninety poli created IT herself in her basement like that and no one got hurt in the making of that disaster conspiracy um I ate is a little bit frustrating dish to see people say such stupid things and like you said, I think maybe the real reason that it's frustrating is because like once you poison the well in that way, IT makes discussion about these things in any sort of contrarian way impossible because you you're lumped in with the true crazes of the tardy sphere um and now I I don't know is just discourse hell and always I ish there was a Better way to I know this this is the endorsing problem of our age, right? It's how do we how do we come to any kind of collective agreement on anything and IT just seems like we never will.

And in the longer that we we persist in the state, the more I think crazy people become um on the left, in the right I mean, remember keep in mind, yes, they were talking about you lasers creating hurricanes or whatever. But there are also people who believe that don trump stage is assiniboin mpt twice and that's crazy. That's the blue in on shit that we've talked about um everyone's a little bit done, everyone. There are a lot of crazy people online. They seem to be proliferating at this point.

I feel like whenever they are like extreme like herky weather events, especially to do with water that dragees people like totally. I don't know what this is about hurricane like floods. Maybe it's like the flood myth you know like the delusion myth, the ancient feeling of like the flood is coming because we deserve IT and it's gna cleans away all the bad people and there's gonna be a reset afterwards.

I don't know if that's what's activating in people, but I feel like the crazy st conspiracy theories happen when there's like a hurry ane it's like females like you know killing people. They're like they are harvesting bodies or I made the crazier stuff comes up during these new cycles. And I feel like there's something uniquely arranging .

about I am so glad you raise ed that point. IT is what I have been feeling online for a couple of weeks now. This is like this darkness that has descended upon the land. I have no idea what that is.

I will say that when you're in a storm, there is I was one and I was in miami and we got the the outer curls of like a tropical storm barely passed over us. IT was unlike any other storm. There was something, when you're in IT, I mean, the sky goes black, and IT just feels different than their thunderstorms all summer.

And I M not like this. This, for of moments, IT felt like you are encountering some kind of cosmic male vaLance. That IT is a scary story, A A scary storm. And that was, like I said, the whisps of of a trouble customer was not even a hurricane. Um when you see images of this thing coming into into land, you should look up. And if you can find them these pictures of the her of of the torne atos that that we're striking all around the state, the hurricane project, you see the Ariel satellite of the bigness of this thing. And IT does feel like, I agree, these these giant storms that so completely the feeling of them is like you feel small in the face of something so big and and terrifying and looming and coming to you slowly you know it's like you have days, days where you can think about this thing coming after you um drives people insane. And yeah we saw throughout HEllen first and continue to see IT in the context of um of the famous stuff that way people discuss this and and now you see again, I I don't even on other topics like while the storm was coming, I found people to be next year online and um even for an election IT felt uniquely toxic the last week or so.

I will be curious to see if there's a sort of hostile to female narrative around milton like there was around Helen. I haven't seen that yet and I wonder if that's just because the santis has been visibly in charge and people feel like he's in control. And so we don't have this partisan because I think the the fale stuff I don't I mean, maybe females not doing, I didn't do as good as they could have.

And there was some corruption that caused that right in alleen. I don't know that seems like what's being alleged generally by the retardation funner, right? Um I haven't seen that in the milton media cycle, and i'm curious how that's how it's going to play out and how I be careful with I will use the word .

retarder phear too though just i'm going to push back a little bit. I don't the fear stuff feels very different to me than like invent like the governments creating her kids um and the famous stuff I felt I agree with you on IT. I don't think they'd one anything wrong.

I at least I haven't seen to improve for that. But the allegations feel more grounded in reality. And also I am willing to listen to more here i'm going to listen more about IT you know about you. Please fucking email me. I would love to know everything that you've got um .

but I think on the female .

is interesting. What you say about female you know is that is IT in this feeling of the last time we heard a lot about we always lot about fema. But during Katrina o we heard a lot of about female in the opposite direction IT was like, you know they don't um they don't care about norlands because it's a black city um and now you're hearing really leagues and echo of that more than a echo.

It's it's the mere image of that in reverse, right? Uh, they don't care about the the apple asian region of north CarOlina, whatever, because it's all poor White people. And now you have to santis who, like you said, seem like is in control.

And if you just have that other figure head that can take heat off of female, maybe that's what does IT. I think the other thing, again, it's just we don't know what happened still. You know we're recording right now.

It's thursday, two P M eastern. Um I was looking as best I could. People aren't there yet. I think about with the time that this airs friday four pm will probably have a Better sense of of what the disaster is.

IT takes them a minute to even get in there to start helping people people um so it's anybody's guess how the feminist tive will evolve. It'll be interesting to check check IT out next week though. I think .

one other observation I had is that female is seems to be renting out of money. Every disaster that happens. There's a new story that comes along with IT. We're like the female director is like we don't have enough money IT seems like every single time I think this happened in covet, you can actually google that I did at the other day and I just every every time female is called to respond to a disaster IT seems like the spokesperson like .

that means they don't have enough money first of all.

pay us more yeah they use IT and so it's kind of weird you know it's like you bring a lot of sort of negative energy around fema bicay. We don't have enough money um but they also were use presuming they actually use disasters to get more money.

Yeah and I I know that sounds pretty crap, but um IT may be the only opportunity, quite Frankly, right? Because when you're not in the midst of a disaster, it's kind of out of sight, out of mining ments probably easy for congress not to increase their budget or or funded. You know as much .

as stated last year.

You I mean, this one was if there was the funding controversy, did they take money out of female ever and give IT? And I was much more complicated than the way that the first broke, but not so complicated because money is still going to people for like free housing in food and whenever else the far these people who just got here and we and like the the did female does have a does you never have a bank account? Like it's like checking account with six hundred billion dollars in IT and they gave you know five hundred and ninety billion to the immigrants and out of money for north collar.

That did not happen. No money was taken out of a fea checking account given to the immigrants. What I think is true and and this is again and this is another instance of where the the the crazy right is you're like metaphor ally, correct about something, but not actually corrected.

All is we're giving a lot to people who just got here to live for free in new york city, for example, and there are people who we still can't find in north CarOlina. And you have families that are getting once seven hundred and fifty dollars or something. I don't know what the approach should be.

I feel bad for feet to a certain extent because you people are looking for you to fix something that's unfixed ble. It's inactive. God just bore down on on a community that hasn't seen flooding like that ever in the case of north CarOlina or in the case of Sarah will find out I think a little more later the day tomorrow um but the the nation's priorities is really what we're talking about there.

Are you prioritizing americans right now when they are really in need? And I think that probably the government could be doing more and I think think that they could really be doing more of that. This is on both sides, is having an honest conversation about global warming, having an honest conversation about, you know, what is going on.

There are things, so the waters are warming. Okay, yes. Why is that? Is that the software thing? Is that something else? What can we do right now to stop that? Because, you know, it's not going to stop that if the waters are warm, reducing the amount that we consume right now is not gone to stop anything.

If we could go, we could go to zero emissions right now, and we would still have all that carbon in the atmosphere, we would still have these warm waters, and we would still have these mega storms that we're looking at. And it's like, what is the plan to get that carbon out of the atmosphere or to alter the the atmosphere in some way so as to cool the planet down, that we need to be be done now. And I just with these people who are, you know, literally there to represent us, good fucking represent us.

we should celebrate the .

fact .

that we are so dominant on planet earth that an alien from light years away could recognize that we exist because um by like you sapling a through us a spectrum ete um the different gases is the gas composition in our atmosphere. It's like fucking and cool like we can work here and and everybody knows that um because we you we we work or in founders mode.

let's go yet the whole species. I was thinking about the shower this morning as I was going ready to come to the h studio. I was thinking about the erl injection thing. So if we don't in, god knows china is not going to stop burning shit, so the carbon gonna keep going into the atmosphere. But if we start altering the planet with something like status spheric arial injection with the sulfur um that has to be replenished IT is very temporary.

So you now start this you now start this process where you're sitting to start extend the sky to cool the planet, and you're doing in all over the world, and you have to do IT consistently. But we're still dumping carbon in the atmosphere. And maybe we're increasing the software sort of code, whatever. If humans ever stopped doing that, at that point, you like, let's say we don't change our behavior other than we add these new precautions that are temporary.

Twenty years from now, thirty years from now, one hundred or two hundred years now, if we forget how to do IT, the world will end like we're talking like like so much carbon the atmosphere will become like Venus it's like the global warming is so say that life on earth dies and that is sort of like you know it's like a it's like we're holding the rest of life that is that all known life hostage or something um that is the power man, yeah it's ours. Men, let's go. We got to take care of IT though.

But that does that mean for regular shit? That means solar punk future where we where we altered the world and make IT Better. Go us. Let's talk about commons press tour so uh both .

trump y animal are sort of going on stepping up their media hits as the election is like lesson among the way now calm less made steps on the view where like you mention slain a um he said, uh something about like h SHE wouldn't change a thing from what binding did from his presidency which a lot of people on the right touch on um she's also been on Steven called bear Howard stern show um sixty minutes as well as an alternative media appearance with called her um more calmly and host uh alex Cooper primarily talked about uh reproductive rights and other women's issues but trump has also been on the podcast for quite a while now.

He's been on four cent as well as the evan podcast um all in obviously. Most recently did flagrant with ander shalts still hasn't done rogan yet though. I wonder if they're working behind the scenes to sort of make that happen closer to election. There is something, but it's good that both candidates know that like podcasts, just like a new part of campaigning um so I guess yet trump calm with either you want to come on the part wires podcast, we would love to have you trump as a prior idle judge I got would be fantastic but way I think .

I yeah he be great. He would be great.

I would love that. And both have been on their podcasts. We will see if, uh, any do any more stops in the future.

The there was also the sixty minutes interview. So part of her pressure was the sixty minutes interview, which I thought was the best of maybe any interview that we've seen so far of either candidate. I thought I was hard and chAllenging, and the do was unrelenting. You know, he would ask questions again on everything from that.

Mean, the main thing that I, when IT comes to a different candidate for me, my big question with commonly is, what do you believe in? And this has to do with the fact that he has espoused very radical, crazy left wing policies just a few years ago, that he hasn't actually repudiated herself, or explain why SHE changed her mind. Things like the fact to open bers, things like you know free sex change Operations for prisoners and for illegal immigrants.

Um I would say her her gun policy previously um obviously her tax policy like a but I really the one is the bordering IT is the crazy st and like like that's where I like what you what do you actually believe in? What is actually your plan? And most importantly of all, I don't mind when a politician changes their mind. I just want to hear why I wants to hear how you got there.

You know what do you agree with and um he was good that but they're getting attacked now the cbs for the sixty minutes interview because they released longer uncut footage where they really dramatically edited some of her answers and did make her sound I think Better just objectively SHE did sound Better when they added to her and maybe even I think there was one they they moved around. I feel like the overall the substance didn't change of the interview. Um and I think you do have to people who realised this were not editing themselves.

I think you do have to edit the video in some way. Uh, uh, raw transcript of anyone talking. If you did a raw transcript of me right now, I would sound terrible in in a transcript, you will hear all my arms and ends in my meandering little stories that you tell to get to a point conversational dialogues very different than than what we do consider in our mind to be crisp, clear dialog. And he doesn't bother you when you're listening.

But I really would bother you if I was in, you know what supposed be a tight in interview or if IT was right now doesn't bother me um but that's kind of I don't know that that was sort of ful like the Cherry on top of of her sunday is like even this this is the that the whole tour is bullshit and this one at sixty minutes was totally manipulated in your favor. I don't think that was quite fair. I think it's smart.

Are going to podcast rather you had a great take about that this week in the daily, which you got to subscribe. You if you have already, we're constantly refreshing this thing um this is where we live in the pirates daily go to pirates stock and subscribe to to the daily is free and we send you three takes a day and that's where we you know discuss the news really um you are saying like this is what IT is to be a modern president I agree, our modern canada, you have to talk to people in this way. I.

I think I think it's interesting how they kind of go to their own eeo logical echo chAmbers. And I don't really dip tou. And I think it's interesting what he said on on the view where SHE very clearly didn't know SHE doesn't know.

This is why we should really talk about here. He does not know if he is a change candidate or if he is the by administration SHE SHE has not figured that out. I don't know how you run a camie n if you ve haven't figured that out, you've got you've really, really, really, really got to .

pick a lane because I just wonder how how much this is changing public opinion um as IT relates to the the outcome of the election .

well um yeah I see no wanted to talk about that. I keep .

seeing the difference between. So we're didn't talk about that Polly market. There's a screen shot going around of trumps chances and commonest chances sort of sharply diverging.

And they actually like a few zoom out on that chart. So this is I think it's like a it's a week the day anger this chart, maybe a week he zam out to a month. The the change looks like namal like nothing. You can barely you can barely see IT.

And so I think that the odds changed in trumps favor represented in that screen shot or actually they seem to be insignificant um but a lot of people are like getting hyped up about IT i've seen on twitter um and i've been following I i'd trust I like kate is like my like I don't actually I when I like i'm wondering about the election. I just look at night sl twitter account um I know a lot people I problems with him, but I don't see what the big deal is with him. I think he seems to be premark.

I and he despite out a tweet today that I think trump gained. The race is me by point three points told trump over the past week mister, should trump feel little Better about the reassure has been a major change no so I guess to bring this back to calm alan um either her press tour has done nothing or slightly hurt her, you know and I wonder if there's any anything that can happen. I wonder what can happen until until election day that may move in the needle significantly such that that won't just be a toss up until the very end.

I think it's hurt her and I was surprised by that. actually. I thought that I was surprised he was right to not say anything that seems. But i'm unpacked a little bit more of the cinnamon of respond to a bit and to our a police market section, I think just works well with this conversation. So, uh, thank you. The polar market, this are one of our partners here, required wires that h makes all of this possible bloody guys, that the market, tony, this cash, that fat .

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that like Polly market surge, make duck pull, that we swim in. It's not that it's not like that I found um but they do pay us so thanks guys um they become, I will say on Polly market and this is do not pay me to say this. They have become a major part of this election which is fascinating to watch.

The Betty markets are being taken seriously in the way they have never been taken seriously before. They always you've always because you can bet on the candidates of vegas and always good. And we saw a lot of that.

And they would be like this interesting data point that would come up eventually, but IT matters and it's they tend to do well. And here we are now, I would say part part of its the real time, you know you you get updates every second on where people are putting their money, who they believe is gona win. And this is coming from a mix of things.

I imagine you're a well betting, Donald trump, you're looking probably your own internal polls. You're not just looking at sentiment in the news like you're basing this off of something so you can win money. H troops reunion rally with elon moskin buler pensylvania that was the iconic elon jumping happily.

Wild, wild picture.

Don't know how to happen. Glad I did. matt. Pull IT up for a second. Thank you moment of then back to IT that lets to a surgeon his odds for winning the presidential election jumping to a fifty four percent to forty ty, five percent lean over commoner Harris.

Critics on the left quickly attributed the shift to ella's promotion of the polling site to his rightful audience, noting Peter tiles investment in the platform. This is a funk inspirit we can talk about a minute. Um my sense is just sort of like if you don't and if the theory here is okay, founders fun first well, I don't know people people know how founder one works like the crypto g jolie crook LED this investment uh in into Polly market. I am not even sure how aware of IT Peter was. Um he was certainly at the meetings and stuff but he's not out there like champion IT uh that was joye brought that and he was really excited about IT continues to be um you know Peters down but it's not like it's like Peter tells money IT was a founders and investment but because Peter is a general partner of found spoon and Peter is a notorious republican who has he's he's the right wing George soros to some of these people um they believe that Polly market is an instrument of Peter till and and that's why the bedding market is showing favor for Donald .

truck that wouldn't make sense.

So either no it's it's it's just so yes, exactly. And but then but then also you know this is this is coming to because I believe market is in some kind of partnership with nate silver. Now they hired in some capacity of not entirely sure of what's going on there.

And so they're also saying, you know night silver in the bag for trump because of the Peter till money which again is not Peter tells money um and even that doesn't make sense because they spend mostly indicating from what i've read until recently, autumn paper of cma。 Um in any case, my read of this is just like if you think that then just bet against IT. If you think it's not fair, if you think it's wrong, then you should bet against IT put your money down and and come out a hero. If you think it's wrong.

then you have an unambiguous opportunity to get rich. And that's all there is also we taking measure of can yet that that's all there is to say there's a measure of conviction that betting markets show that polls literally in categories cannot, right? Nobody in that is being pulled has their money on the line. And in bedding markets, you literally have your money on the line.

You I mean, again, I am a little you can go back to what we saw with the walls debate that in Polly market that gives me this question market where I wonder, you know, for all of the money they have on the line, that they still just not aware of how this works.

I see. So I was looking just according to perplexity, and I just asked IT, you know, how well did bedding markets perform in the past ten presidential elections? And IT tells me that, again, this is perplexity.

So I don't know. According to news week, betting odds have successfully predicted the winners and seventy seven percent of elections over the past thirty five ears. In eleven elections since one thousand and eighty, betting markets correctly predicted the winner ten out of eleven times.

But there is one big caveat. In twenty sixteen batting markets heavily favoured clinton over trump. This is the so we all know what happened then that was actually the only time um bedding markets uh we got something got an election wrong since one thousand and eighty. So well.

that was A I have an answer for that one. I think that speaking of polls, I think the bedding markets generally look to polls, all different kinds of polls. And some of them were I think, private polls, some of them were internal polls, some of them were public polls.

But I think polling is where a lot of the huge, the huge money in the betting markets get their information that shape their opinion on this specific question of the election. And in twenty sixteen, people were not honest about who they were voting for. I think there was so much a hatred of trump.

And IT was different, honestly, before you want IT was like, also IT was just unthinkable. IT was, he was considered so beyond the pale that, you know, you have to be a broke and stupid person like there is. You were highly incentivized about who you are supporting, even in polls.

You don't know who is on your phone. I think people are genuinely scared to save the truth. And and I think that's what impacted the bedding markets. I think we were just totally wrong, but I think have been roughly correct since I think the polls and and especially I mean, I think in twenty, twenty, people are pretty honest and I think people are being very honest right now. But who you're voting for?

I'm very confused about the police market conspiracy. Like, what do people think like because Polly market shows like trump with a slight lead like if someone was gonna over calm a there like, oh, no, i'm team trump like conspiracy makes a no sense to me.

It's also, we know that internally this would need silver was saying today, he was saying he saw their people in both lamps that he is in communication with. He is like, you know, IT seems republicans and democrats both think polling data that indicates come is losing works in their favor. I think I don't know why on the right, they think is generally the psychology of thinking you're losing and having to get to the polls.

That makes sense to me. Um certainly people are hoping on the code that you know this for them this you know I just saw a seeing clip where this one was accusing him of hilarus policy. SHE believes this is a connachar hit larian figure.

This is one of their this is one of their main hosts, not like a really mass guest. And and if you believe that and you think that he's winning, you know you really wanted get the pulse and you have amo there. And so I agree, I I don't understand I don't understand they think what's happening here.

I just don't think they understand what betting markets are. That's pretty much if you actually think that peer tels dark money is for some reason incentivised to to sway a betting market, one where another like that you just simply categorically do not understand what a betting market is for or what IT does or what it's value is yeah.

guess what you could do is take all that money in bed just for your guy, but then you would lose IT. Yes.

you do. You don't want to be the whale that uh, that totally distorts the market because it's .

easy money. If you know that it's wrong, you just bet the other direction. Absolute silliness through and through. But that is interesting that he has I mean to go back to original question.

Brand I think really is for both mentioned after all this press where are we IT seems like this this party a commons definitely at this moment losing from between both polling data and um in the Betty markets markets seem to indicate this um you know there is the interesting question of why or how you know what is IT about this press? I think what was going on this week, I love people didn't see the see the interviews. Uh, well, call you that you I mean, that was that blew up.

I mean, people definitely tune in at the sixty minutes ten people are still talking about, but there's the hurricane think it's I mean, I don't want to be it's a sort of seems like the more people here the last day like her and or less, they know what he thinks. And maybe it's maybe my opinion here is roughly share, which is like, what do you believe in? You know what? What is IT are you? Are you to change? Do you believe in change? Which was she's an as is a change candidate. If so, then why when Sunny asked you what you would change, you said nothing. Um yeah what who are you?

Noticeably in absence is the joy that she's SHE .

came out the .

gate with um the weird mean yeah the White guys .

for koala i'm .

not seeing quiet not seeing this crazy buzz enthusiasm anymore and that so worn like this hangover, right? Or they are the commons supporters. And I don't know what that means for the outcome, but I think what we do know is you can't restart that. I don't think you know. And so that that effect is, uh, no longer in play and I don't think it's coming back.

You need things to move the race now, like you need these views to do something there to be abounds or and like or you need some new event to pop up. You need mean, what's the october surprise?

What is the top? Can they do to? They can do anything to trump.

And I mean, what are you going to say about trump? What I have already there, possibly there anything know? Like he's on, he's on the phone all the time with button. You seen a .

little and he he gave some he gave some coffee tests also.

I'm like, that's cool for I don't is that a problem?

Me, I agree, because the pandemic is like I thought that we we were all coming together in those early hours of the pandemic. That was my recollection of the event. IT was scared. I wasn't thinking, like, fuck even then I think I was not even thinking fuck china at that point. I really wasn't IT took me a minute to be like, wait a minute.

yeah. Like this front I was like in the movies were like aliens invade and you feel like there are no borders. Yeah yes, different languages were all one global. I also move citizens.

I mean, many of money about this. I think trump has many flaws. I do not actually think foreign policy was one of them.

Um I think I never had a problem when he talked to a kim jung on, I thought that was awesome. I I thought that I was great that he went over there in in, talking in. I thought IT was great that he was talking to, put in. I remember not having new words when trump was in office and I don't think he's bad of this actually.

I think that um yeah he doing bother me that he talks to this guy and I I think that maybe he thinks is going to win and he's going to go in there and have a relationship with put again, which is what you need, that's what diplomacy is, is you have kind of these a rice famous had a relationship, not a not a relationship. He had a relationship with that putin and they had a lovely sort of like carrisford like SHE spoke russian and he found her charming and that that's what you have to do um that's how this works but also the air amErica isn't get to ship about russia so they don't care about ukraine. They don't care about israel.

They care about there are two things the ever amErica cares about. They care about fucked up economy, and they care about the fucked up immigration system, that those are the things, and in different directions, you know, they all left the right as their own version of sort of approaching these things. But I my sense is that outside of the polar extremes, that's where most americans are sitting.

And that was going to determine, I think, where we go with this, which is why you see calm, pretending that cheese has different views. Now on I think both of those issues, but the golf has begun to between them maybe will keep up. I'll see next week. Um I think for now, the thing that we really have to do is get the prior title. We are approaching the second round of quarter finals math, the music.

And we are back to the greatest show on youtube, the internet, on television. I think all of the above is hired idle. The quarter files are upon us. We have three contestants back.

They're going to battle to the death or to the end of the segment on the topic of whether or not elon must is running for shadow present first. Well, welcome back us for joining us gives a little wave weve got Chris. We ve got jack.

We got grand who cut his hair for the show. I'm assuming ing taking IT seriously, we like that. We love to hear IT Riley do us a favour and t us up .

sure thing contestants. So this week liberal x commentator and losing minnesota house candidate will stand. Cl speculated that elan's embrace of trump is a way for the foreign born gn billionaire to essentially run the White house while trump p rots in front of fox news. This prompted some like newest Smith to say that they had heard the same thing in others, like america's favorite billionaire ke salona, to comment, literally nobody is .

saying this. I like I say to my own, to my own home. I mean, there is a good tweet. The tweet are good. I ve got to say, here's what we will set exactly.

So apparently the word in the tech world is this eland's embrace of trump is because elan thinks he can essentially run the White house while trump rots in front of fox news. It's a way to circumvent the natural born citizen requirement and let musk serve as the fact tio president a lot to work with here. Um I have my I have so many things to say about this about noa um but why don't we start? Chris, welcome back to the show.

What do you make of IT? I guess the question is, you know is, is he on running for you? You can take IT in direction you want with the I quite like is even running for shadow president. Is trump able to be controlled in this way, someone already controlling trump um or if you to take about whilst angle and all years yeah you could .

go a lot of different ways in that. So the version is I will to tech my whole career and we don't have some kind of secret ball coffee room where we talk about things away from the public or we do, but is just twitter.

It's literally just everybody is tweet at each other all the time and it's in public and it's actually insb that you can go see like what more can recent is to or BIOS is up to, or wherever zuker berg gets on threats or whatever what he's up to and see what the richest, smartest, most powerful people in the world are doing all the time. And so if you want to know if this is the case, you can just go look at what and you want are actually saying that the only person really that we can see what they're thinking about and doing is Peter teo. And that's really mix fall because he's the cm o counter is fun.

And so we'd like to see that change. But the next thing i'd say is um this definitely just sounds like an opening for welfare. And if there is something vegal illegal or salacious, the way that you on musin trumpet or interacting could be prosecuted or could be immoral or something, then IT sounds like they're trying to then this up they're trying to push this to the point where potentially there could be something on earth.

Um so in general, IT just seemed sort of underhanded and manipulative and that's that's because IT is and republicans will absolutely fall for IT because again and again, when we are faced with these situations, the republicans just always take sort of the literal approach and often lose because they're not very good at dealing with these kind of are gray areas. And so you see that as a repeat team where republicans lose because the left is much more comfortable with stretching the truth. The left is sort of in a place where theyve been eaten by toxic compassion.

So we're having a lot of these like late stage of republic vives. And one of them were seeing in the democratic party is where they've value being nice over getting results for long enough. Then you see a lot of these people like and no are taking over where they're very comfortable stretching the truth or lie.

And um there are solutions to most. The problems are facing with the left doesn't going to talk about him because they're willing to want to strike for truth, and they want to lie about silly stuff all the time instead of getting results. And so there was this, they did this study with little kids where they asked, they put salt eliminate, and they asked little boys like, hey, how does this taste? And the little boy said, like, this tais awful.

This is terrible. But the little girls really like, oh, you actually hard to eliminate IT tait, he's great. And they lied about.

And so you see this all across the after right now, where this like toxic compassion has taken root. And now they just lie about a lot more stuff. User short, the end results of that slippy slow, if i'm hearing you correctly.

you're saying that will the dancer and nose Smith are essentially little girls agree with .

I I I will say .

um first why I think it's interesting to link this to the lafave stuff. Uh, I think probably what I really agree with you on is that it's just a lie.

These you're right, most of us are on twitter, but the people who are also on twitter are are willing noa and the the framing so when I I mean I tweet something about about well at IT went violent he was like, oh no, is this true and no he jumped into sort of fact check on the tech voices um no is Smith is just a random writer who doesn't know any of these people that he's talking about. Well, stancy knows none of that. I mean, wilno ws truly none.

I think no. I actually at least lives in safran. This coco, so we might be friendly with with some tech workers, but he's not one of them on certainly nobody i've no one has ever thought for a second.

No one who's not stupid has thought that elon mosque is gonna run the government. No one can control separate from the tech of IT all nobody can control on on trump like that's the one thing I think that we know about him is that he's he's uncontrollable and sort of unpredictable. And um it's just very delusional to think that they're some sort of puppet master behind all of but no one will learn, not illusional.

They do know that no one is said this. They are just lying. And I I when you are saying, you know, the left is more open to lying, the right, I disagree with that a certain extent.

I think and I think most people would would think that's not true at all, that you know the right is much more open to misinformation. I think that what you see terms of misinformation on the right tends to be like really crazy shit. So the misinformation were all sort of stepped in right now, which we we were just talking about a little bit earlier in the pod was um the the secret government hurray e lasers.

You know like that's the kind of shit that we're doing on the right and it's cloud h and you immediately clock is not based in reality in conspirator oral. And um maybe you know there's some sort of interesting it's like a like a metaphor for something interesting happening in society we can talk about but that's really you can say about IT. The let's lies are like this.

They are a certainly I don't want to blame all of for this but certain in the lie that we're looking at here in the sort of the wild ancel um form that to me is more insidious then the secret government hurricane laser because people will believe this um you know the average person doesn't realize that these guys don't know anybody in tech and all there really seeing is twitter and no one on twitter is even saying that other than will stanl and know a Smith um and I think it's probably being used just as you know scare people because there are a lot of people who hate elon though I guess I I am curious like like who hates elon at this point that doesn't already hate trump? I don't know. That's not so a little bit confusing to me. Jack, what do you think? Men.

so I actually didn't know wheel stand was a real person. And so a few days ago, but I was I went I thought you might have been like A A russian deep fake that was put in a state controversy and I saw that he actually lost uh for he lost an election for the minnesota state house representatives district sixty one a in their um like state election but I mean, I think he's just addicted to twitter and he realized this is a really good way to become the main characters are on twitter again, which we're talking about. Him kind of worked.

I was I was looking at his twitter feed as we were doing this, and I called a perfect screen grab where he had treated a meme and then deleted IT and tweet the same meme of the different caption because the first went didn't get enough, as most recent tweet probably now says you on musk, big plan. It's a picture of mosque of the podium, the truth behind them. He tried to treat how elon musk seize the world before that with the same picture.

And I didn't work. So like it's, I mean, we've all posted to a treat. I got like three lives. We deleted IT, posted a different tweet that was a banger. This is an engagement thing, right? Like he was like, oh, what's a really what's to take that nobody can move and nobody can verify that true or fault. So I get to and I get probably isn't true, but is going to take way too much efforts like ask every single tech worker if it's true, like somebody said, what's your source and he said something like who knows or all see or something like that is a very ague stuff.

So I think I think this is very much a what's the hot dest take I can do that could plausible be believable by one person like the intelligence or new york mag put out they like rote a profile on A A couple of month talking about how he just went over zr on twitter that can december and they said by rough counts dancer, twitter about the economy one hundred fifty times and december alone, or five times a day like this. Stude honestly just loves posting. So I I think the entire of thing is bullshit IT. But I respect his commitment to the game like he just want. He won't break character.

Yeah, you can take that away. You can take a way. The fact that he is a poster.

I.

I mean, the thing that does, I do think to think that bothers me the most about this is that the two of these people are pretending they know people that's really IT bothers me like really bothers me.

The people they are pretending they know we're talking, you know like the big guys like their pretending especially know a pretending that is of the at the table with like you know the patrol caul sons of the world, the market and reasons in elon and Peter and stuff like they don't know him. They like do not know him, they do not care, they not reading a stupid little blog. They don't know any of the things about knows that he's saying they're not true is is certainly true of will stansell as well.

And um they're not delivering any kind of insight. But again, maybe doesn't matter like what you said. IT doesn't matter like like he's not there's something not do you think there's something not serious about IT? You know he's not maybe actively trying to lie.

There's like a lot of joke. I think I think the best way of you will stall is from an entertainment perspective and seven information perspective, like if you just like tweet, like pure entertainment like this is kind of like a character in a sit com back and be simple. He treated for the crime of pointing out the economy looks very strong.

I was already getting pummeled cosplay witter communist, thanks to eight silver's entry into the debate, are now being swarmed by the right wing, anti vx types to love him. This must be a polar felt in eighteen thirty five. Pause reply. This time pole is going to win though, like he's of his .

twitter feed.

I think it's all just like crap like he's totally laughing the whole time things trying to ARP and who maybe becoming an actual like main character but you know right now just treat them like entertainment and he can be very entertaining.

You know, it's treated well though. And I think that I I guess the way I kind of try and figure out where people sit in what they think about generally beyond the sort of main characters on on social media is just what's happening in the comments. And to a small extent, you can and you can trust all of them.

There are no shortages. Are n agents just people joking around? But in aggregate, when you're looking, you know, hundreds of thousands of comments, I think you do get a sense of at least what now the subset of the world which is called, you know, twitter users are thinking. And there were a lot of people who who agreed, I would say he has there are people after who are like, oh my god, this is so true for them.

I think it's more maybe of like a billion air, billion aires controlling Donald trump yes, which is another there is out of in the same I guess the same species has like no ismalia real standard is not eglash ous and um he does this a lot where he's like, oh this is all it's billionaire is protecting, billionaire interested whatever. And as a more classic, I guess, left to attack path. And I do think that's a little bit of what's happening with the elon things like people to see.

Okay, rich, powerful person, try to the georgios architect of manipulating behind the scenes puppy master. And here's the Younger, rich guy who seems to like a politician mask, therefore new stores.

Yes, I think the source one is a little bit, I mean, he does IT to himself. His son is now what? Posing with these people as if there, you know, prize beast that he's hunted in in the forest it's like, you know here's amy.

What's your face? The one for medical ta um the one who is famously like throwing your shoes at people on stuff. She's to get this reputation for being violent. What is her name?

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batar that was the one I yeah I required for president. They're all these staff leagues that were like, yeah you like I think one of them, i'm pretty sure fact checked me, but i'm pretty sure he threw A A shoe with someone.

SHE was in founder mode. Great thoughts. Yeah I was .

going to say that this feels like almost a math up of like two great political conspiracies. One is um trump's birth thoris m sorry, there's like the immigrant angle here. Like know it's explicit in the constitution that you on can be the president but it's like the looming ing like you know american cities and foreigner billionaire and then kind of like the obama shadow president narrative r reiden, you know so IT, is this like there's already some psychological fit here of like pushing these different types of things and now it's like the billionaire immigrants running the government from, like behind the scenes.

And then i'd say like the other pieces, I think I mean, this is like kind of smart in the sense that the other element here is that, like trump, it's tough to hit him again. Like when you hit him for the thousand time, IT just doesn't do anything. So I feel like this tragedy has really been to focus on people who are not trump but are associated enough with him.

Like that's the way to drag him down like the successes have been around um project twenty twenty five and being like the heritage foundation, you or jd events or you know whatever. So I I think polling must in as this um figure is just very much a political move. And i'd say that um yeah like you know talking about matic aces and some other people like you know matt will start beef with people on his own side like I think they still listen to him a lot like I think he really does, at least on certain policy matters, have the year of the White house but no IT doesn't do that.

No IT is very much like on the team you like score his beat, he sharing like combos, wins like the the party like he's very much like a true political like good boy. Um so I think for ham, he's just he sees IT as this move and just jump in and back IT. So I I think that kind of makes a lot of sense and IT also makes sense that elon has now decided to back prop regardless of their why .

is that you think just .

because I mean, the government has been very hostile to him. So you know like every time he turns around, he's getting sued. He obviously wants his company succeed. He has his vision. Um so I think going are just going for IT and being like, well, you have prety clear that i'm your enemy so I guess piano, I don't have any any other options so I just seems prety rational for like everyone involved .

yeah I just saw um I figured now what show IT was maybe was M S N B C. I can't remember now but it's one of these shows that Carries swisher was on and and he was on IT and IT was A A panel of people talking about 伊朗 and one of the democrats on panel was limiting the fact the democrats had lost elon mosque。

And he was respecting and saying, you know, like, what have we done? What could we have done differently to not do this? I think that we we should maybe given in more of his accusations. And you know, he stands for things that we all say that we care about.

He's just like a space guy where the party of J, F, K, like this should be a natural fit and IT was for years we saw that right like he he was waiting in line to go hang out with brock obama like he supported him and um I think you'll biden as well um and there was shock at the table uh you know like I think that we've given him his accusations and how is he taught his accusations? Carer actually defended the person who was SHE raised a couple of things that be done. But the big I think is the losses.

I mean, there are lawsuits all over the country and it's very early, similar to what I think happening with the trump at this point. Um and then you see some of the fcc, the reward for starting taken away, uh, would have affected the region's in north CarOlina that are now we're going in and being saved. I starlink.

Um it's clear there's clearly like a government. I don't want say IT. It's just not avert.

It's never avert. It's never like the state has officially said elon is an enemy or something. It's just death by a thousand cuts in a thousand different ways. And yeah, he felt IT and reacted to IT. But I also think I mean, I think that the he spent a lot of time on twitter and I think like all of us, we just saw what people were saying in the year twenty twenty and twenty twenty one and we were like, that's really crazy and bad and we need to change things. Um he he .

actually talked about A A big thing that the the number one thing that turned him away from the left was um when his child um came out, uh you know started to go transat whatever and um do some of the things that weren't happening there. We're like they weren't communicating honestly with him and his actually life like they were withholding I think they were like withholding information and then like I I think that that is good transition and he was like very against that happening at a very Young age, which is this isn't an irreversible process that really damages children. That um we've seen actually professional medical societies all over the world come out against these procedures for minors um and yet they're continuing to be performed.

And it's it's actually really sad because I remember uh, I didn't know I I made a lot of done decisions when I was a kid and i'm really thankful that in a lot of society was there to stop me from going to off the rails. And so these irreversible surgeries are not something that managers or Young kids should be having performed on them. And I think that's enough for if if for all the parents out there, like that's enough. And especially if the school is hiding things from you, or like professionals are hiding things from you a about your children, that is that's a pretty crazy situation.

right? I mean, can even get to att too when you're a kid. So I understand the argument for sure. And I also agree that that was the I think that it's sort of an uncomfortable topic because it's inherently so volatile, so politicized and so divisive. If the word i'm looking for um that I think neither like elan supporters nor elan detractors want to want to touch IT um it's much easier to go after him as an arrogant billionaire who wants people to say nice things about him and I think kerrey said he wanted to be invited to the summit of the the White house what he was angry about IT was the electric vehicle summit where he was completely ignored as the guy who basically like pioneer the uh the the trend of electric vehicles in the country by building the first successful you know auto company in many, many decades. Um but I don't think he was that I think IT was I think it's like what happened to his kid and how the schools to handle IT and then how people in media and government we're talking about IT. And it's like you want to have that conversation with amErica as uh a mainstream democrats or do you want to talk about like a sort of argan billion aire and it's like you don't want to have the first one because I think that the probably that the trends youth stuff is fixed, we don't hear about ever, which is actually confusing me. I don't I don't know why it's not coming up on the on the right wing side, but my sense is that people are in amErica generally not happy with IT.

I think for elan, there's I was just going to say think there's very material things to like, right? He needs a lot of power to you do A I for there's all these regulatory things he needs to deal with the space. But even just expanding tesler, you know obviously bad a bunch of subsidies that he is received um his companies have received for electric vehicles through the inflation production and act and things like that.

Um so some of its a hedged to right like you know some of his businesses are a with kind of the bite and haris agenda. Um other ones are basically being timid about these regulatory forces. Um I think and then there's really not a lot of concrete plans. I mean, in general, I mean, I am not falling in his clothes. I was before is not a lot of concrete plans for reforms i'm coming from, I guess, either like campaign formally, we've talked about a lot of things, but I haven't seen you know kind of the need create like think tank style up and anyway, you you need the regulatory reform like trump is at least like you know, we're going to put in the people who we're gna remove a bunch of these people are timing these things um there are um you know policies proposed by congress that will move those things forward. Um but you know I think I think also like not to get too much in his psychology, but just like material things he's trying to do and he is very lined at his vision of actually exceeding, you know becoming a multiplying tary p or what are these objects out there?

How much of the do you think is the the sort of, I mean, I would say, anger to even ranging on a hatred people on the left in to ha how much of that do you think is about the fact that he's in african american? I don't think it's an uncomfortable question.

but I think .

it's worth most. I think it's worth dressing nothing. Uh.

I think there I mean, like, okay, this is you know kind of spice on the other side like I think there are really a lot of reasons why um people could just be turned off from elan and excluding a the like he's a billion error or that he's supports strong or something like you know he's he identifies as a trans humanist. He wants to put IT like machine people's brains. Like if you go and talk, you like go to the middle country and talk, start talking about that unprompted and people will look at you like, you're yeah I like.

yeah, I don't know. I think it's these people in the in the country, its spaceship and stuff and they really like that cool. I I think it's more just its people online and left specifically you don't like this eat.

I understand if I didn't agree, I agree with him and probably most that maybe seventy percent, five percent of the things that he says online um if I didn't agree with them so much, you know I will be very grading to to beyond other side of that is a huge he is a huge microphone. I think it's just simple. IT is tribal.

It's just like basic tribal politics. I think if you agree with the things he's saying, you're on a side. And if you don't, you're not.

Before he was speaking so much politically, IT was less I was more confusing why people had a problem with him and I I think also more interesting um you know, when the left, this would really go after him hard to meet that felt more like IT was because he was such a good example of what a can do um and but generally people didn't graft like generally he got a lot of love and support in the press um and then he bought twitter and I would say that was the end of that. Like there were no more glowing profiles on the mars mission. Yes, we rap IT up the thoughts.

Last thought on elon. Last thoughts on the sort of online influencers who say they know people that they don't. Last thoughts on you.

The link between the eleven trump, the shadow presents I mean, I think i'd be great if he was I guess that's the take that no one said wouldn't IT be great actually if elon, our president ravitz trump or biden um would actually I mean, I would sign up they are saying over we're hiding IT that's that's the new no, no, no they're all lying because it's it's so clearly the thing I think again, this is partly a member or ever but I I just I wish I guess is my my main thing I really do wish that was the case. I wish elan was up there. He was one of the choices. But what guys last thought on this.

I am, I think this was like a pretty simple core part of this whole beef that flipped just that. He literally started the entire like E V revolution of everything. And then multiple times biden came out and like called general motors, like the front round of electric vehicles in america.

It's like to like he built house like common and that's not even like it's not even a clever cover up like anybody, anyone the political spectrum can see. Like like everybody drives tesla s IT doesn't t if you're like alright with a cyber truck or like you're a complete lib who is the like first tesla owner in california. So I I I think a big part of IT is just like we talked about all the lawsuits and stuff and that's a thing.

But tesla was like his original baby that put musk on the map and he like he people who did, he found hazle, whatever does the matter he is, want to built IT through, like truly not a company at one point, and just getting completely ignored on the national stage by the president multiple times about that. Yeah, I actually like everybody. Everybody is a little bit petty when they feel disrespected and and I think they like a big part of IT is literally fucked this guy like and now his vice it's running fucker too like they wouldn't give me the respect I deserve what I did.

I just want to say that um many people are saying whatever I said many people are saying on twitter um so I ever do this. I do know them and don't don't know IT Chris .

last thought, yeah.

you wants talking about maybe cutting ninety percent of the government is trumped and and you elected and if that happens, the hand cuter off and we will have the greatest five or ten years of the U. S. Economy that we have ever seen if we fire all these bureau craters. So let's do IT let's go shadow government all the way.

It's time to go for elan folks. Um you heard to hear first, I was lying the whole time he is running for shadow president and I think you know what you have to do. You have to rate, you have to subscribe, you have to review.

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