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Military Defense Has Taken Over The Tech Industry | PIRATE WIRES EP#9

2023/8/11
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John Coogan
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Mike Solana
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Mike Solana: 我观察到科技行业出现了一个新的国防科技领域,这在十年前是不存在的。许多年轻人对国防科技领域感到兴奋,这与几年前截然不同。 John Coogan: 冷战结束后,国防工业整合为五大巨头,长期主导国防技术发展。然而,与俄罗斯、乌克兰和中国的冲突,以及来自伊朗的无人机,引入了新技术,挑战了美国的长期优势。Palantir 和 SpaceX 通过诉讼挑战了国防部与老牌公司之间的长期协议,为新公司进入国防科技领域铺平了道路。美国联邦采购法中存在商业优先权条款,但长期以来没有得到有效执行,直到 SpaceX 通过诉讼迫使政府遵守该条款。 Trae Stephens: 国防部为了促进创新,设立了多个创新机构,但这些机构的资金大多流向了研发,而不是转化为有意义的产品。Anduril 的目标是成为一个能够与大型国防承包商直接竞争的下一代国防承包商,而不是仅仅争夺研发合同。传统的国防合同是成本加成合同,激励承包商尽可能多地花钱,而 Anduril 的方法是自筹研发资金,开发自己相信能够满足客户需求的产品。Anduril 的策略是关注未来五年国防部计划采购的项目,并开发能够满足这些需求的产品,同时提供额外的功能。Anduril 在成立的第一周内就与首个客户建立联系,并开始游说国会。随着国防科技领域的发展,政府关系和游说方面的专业知识变得越来越重要,这使得新公司更容易进入该领域。对国防项目的参与并非没有争议,但科技人员的核心目标是解决难题,而许多难题都与国家安全相关。国防技术领域相对来说是两党都能接受的,即使政治环境发生变化,对国防科技公司来说,影响也不会太大。Anduril 的成功离不开 Palmer Luckey,但他并非是唯一重要的人物,整个团队的贡献同样不可或缺。未来五年,国防科技领域可能会出现更多公司,但同时也会出现一些公司因资金问题而倒闭或重组。

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The defense tech industry has been dominated by a few large companies for decades. Anduril, a Silicon Valley startup, has disrupted this landscape by focusing on innovation and competing head-to-head with established primes. Their approach involves self-funding R&D and building products that meet customer demands rather than relying on cost-plus contracts.
  • Anduril's self-funded R&D model contrasts with the traditional cost-plus contracts of established defense primes.
  • Founders Fund's early involvement played a crucial role in Anduril's success.
  • SpaceX and Palantir's legal battles paved the way for new players in the defense tech industry.

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EPISODE NINE: In this episode, Mike is joined by John Coogan and the Founder of Anduril Trae Stephens. We discuss the history of defense companies, how the tech startup Anduril became a player in the defense industry, the shift in opinion working with the government, and what the future of tech defense holds.

Featuring Mike Solana , John Coogan, Trae Stephens.

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TIMESTAMPS:

0:00 - Intro

0:25 - Welcome John & Trae to the show! Preview of John's documentary on YT - Link in Description

2:55 - History Of Defense Companies

8:35 - What Does The Defense Industry Look Like Today?

12:40 - Competing With The Big Companies As A Startup

21:15 - Talking To Congress

23:20 - Will There Be New Players In The Space?

26:30 - Changes At Founders Fund To Accommodate Anduril

28:30 - Project Maven

37:15 - Tech Industry Has Zero Power In San Francisco

40:15 - The Dream Team Needed To Make Anduril A Success

45:45 - What's Next For Defense Industry?

51:30 - Go Watch John's Documentary on YouTube! And Follow John & Trae On Twitter (X)

51:50 - See You Next Week! Pirate Wires Podcast Every Friday!!

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