Thanksgiving Lessons: Notes From Your Toxic Uncle, Crime in NYC, MSM in Decline, & The Broligarchy 🏴‍☠️
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What's up, guys? Welcome back to the pod. Quick note. Next week we can be offered thanksgiving, so you will probably not river this by then you'll asking me where the pot is on twitter. It's not united a show.

I'm going to be cooking for my family on neko giving. I'm not to be recording a show with you guys. Unfortunately, I do love you, but not that much, not as much as I love.

I was using my family. IT seems to be tried, but on my family. Can't wait.

Excited for you all, excited for me, the holiday I need to break. Yes, moving on. Um we have coming up, uh Polly, market segments to sit for that. We're going to be going over one of the odds of uh, where the chances is according to the polymer matters of a crime a chrome, google chrome google, I guess, separation agreement via a video j and our parade segment, of course, so so tight for the return of miles and andy.

And if I wanted to magic guys to be voting for these people in the section um who you want to see more up because we argued to tie them up and we're going to bring him back for the finals, which begin like three weeks from now, okay, after the races so we have to talk about a little faces of mine that I like to sort of beat the drama every now and ever, now and again, which is make crime illegal again. Where to taking you in york city? Riley, break IT down for us?

yes. So we've covered a lot of new york city crime like an arco tyana stories.

but this one was like, sorry, IT s get ID. Welcome to the show. Take hi you.

Hi lover. She's here again. Thank you. On short notice right back to you.

So a bit of background on remona vera, our latest big apple criminal. Um for starters he's a homeless guy with a lengthy criminal rap sheet. Um he's been arrested for burglary, assault and grand lars and that's just in the past year. Um he had two prior mental health episodes as the new york post calls them, also just in the past year. And one of his prior arrest was for actually attacking an officer in one of these psychiatric facilities that he was in and yet somehow this guy who sounds like an absolute menace who should be in a straight jacket, was just like chilling on the streets um he goes on to commit a stabbing spring in broad daylight um starting at eight in the morning stabbing three individuals in a completely unprovoked attack um including a thirty six year old man and woman in a sixty seven year old man who was just fishing in the east river um all three of whom eventually succumbed to their injuries um meanwhile what were new york politicians doing um while this was happening Kathy hok al in new york officials announced a new congestion pricing toll uh which they claim is going to somehow fix the subway will see about that and of course the da of the jurisdiction alban bag is only focus on crime when IT can be used against a presidential candidate he doesn't like um and then in a bit of beautiful and sad irony one of brag's assistance was this morning robbed and attacked by an illegal immigrant with five prior arrest since twenty twenty three so if that doesn't serve as a wake up call for these people, i've Frankly don't know what will at this point.

I mean, concurrently, what you also have happening is penny on trial, right? So you're living in this, he said in our cartier, I really is that I mean, the streets are not safe and that is the bare minimum thing that you need to do as the city is care about that. It's crazy to me that this person is along is these are sure to they're connected, but slightly different stories. The first one is about a crazy american.

The second one is way harder to understand, which is, how are we literally paying to put up an illegal immigrant from Venus who is in a gang who has been arrested multiple times? Like, how is that person still here? Why are we paying his rent? Like, why is this allowed? Is is so crazy defines it's hard also to keep talking about IT because it's just like what is going to change.

I don't know what is going to take to change this. I know that it's um IT is worse than that sounds even because this is the thing this is how we see the government is the thing that protects us. And if it's not that, then what is IT is just the thing that as you know, to rally like charges us lots of money for city service on things you're living in new york city tells a little bit about how you feel.

Are you excited about the the roving gangs of illegal? Yes or no? There is a all of isn't. Push back here. Give me the steel man for the roving gangs of illegal venezuelans.

Fuck, get on my city. Now I just that the one this week of the stabbing is one I really like got me far up like I don't really get too far of these days. This one got me like fired up and it's it's said it's like thirty, thirty, mid thirty people got to stabbed in in the streets and went to multiple occasions around in manhattan.

So wasn't like he was in one condensate area. So he was rome around york city just seven people. Um and it's embarrassing when you have the solutions to your government are cappy KO charging more for regular citizens to drive their car in the city or albin brag who's trying to go after the trump fur stormy Daniel payment then actually fixing this.

So I mean the solution we will have to be upset at the board room out. We did see the reckoning of that in L A. And set is go in time will tell that actually fix things. But they did vote. The voters did vote to get these people out, right.

And so as now there is an election in twenty twenty five in june for alban brag, and right now no one's is even contesting them, is not even a lead like contest like there is is is expected for republican to oppose him. But you know the general consensus is because you're in blue manhattan that he would still win. But another democrat is not a in alen right this moment.

This is one the reasons I started writing about local politics. And thanks for cisco. It's because my good sense every time, let's say, late twenty teens, twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, before twenty twenty, when things were obviously insane, I would go to bar hanging my friends, meet new people and if crime came up, if the question of carrick came up or and that he was mostly that berkely became a scared thing a little bit later, I mean, they existed.

But IT IT, really, after twenty twenty car brick ins, were the thing that everyone was freaking out about back then when you talked about that people were like, shut IT down. What do we have to do to fix this problem? There is a complete agreement on this topic.

And yet the votes went in the same direction every time to sort of support people like chess, abandon. And and so I thought I think it's just like people don't aren't they're not voting. I think they're just not aware of what's going on.

They're aware of an alternative. They're not engaged. It's like this is not a story that people care about and they're kind local politics and local politics story and that feels like new york city to me right now. I feel feel like city amErica really other than someone is this point um but new york is is especially important because it's the effect of capital of the country is not literally, but it's the economic capital, is the cultural capital, is it's our city and uh, it's falling hard. And specifically this dimensions, I think it's just people don't know what their alternatives are.

And if you could get people excited about that and have local politics be a bigger topic of conversation, I think that, you know, I don't live in new york, but I I don't I don't even know what you're having your legislature is. I don't know how many representative you have like deciding what the laws are. I don't only even know who's being voted for or not, or whenever that I bet most new yorkers don't know that either and that little bit of basic education has to happen or so much of IT is mechanic.

right? So so many people in manhattan are going to vote blue because they're blue, right? Especially when you have a world of people being afraid to trump and anything that's republic.

And if you look at the voter map that switched over over the trump in new york city, IT was the bronx in berkley once stunningly red and it's in the middle who's all feeling blue than making all the laws for people, right? So, uh, album break comes out of manhattan. So there are the ones voting from.

So a lot of a metic up, just like I can vote for red. I had to vote for the the democrat guy. He went to trump. H and I hate trump. H, so can sometimes the party boyles out to be that simple.

I would guess. Yeah, that's the national. That's the this of distraction of national politics because, sure, I understand that you don't wire your new orka and you don't want to work for doing shop.

I get that, but that does not map in any way what so ever to local politics, because when you're living in a one party state, everyone becomes corrupt and terrible, and the over to window totally shifts to the left. And so now standard democrat could be very, very drained. And this would happen probably in anyone that would happen in republican party today as well.

That's just have as we land land of of of new york is crazy. I I guess at this point, it's such a high profile case. I can't imagine that nothing will be done to the crazy person now.

And just like I sort of dust will see if that venezia ling is deported. I would be surprised at this point if you can attack and can detect someone in the da s office with a rap sheet and all this national attention, and still not get deported them. I don't know so many times.

It's the time of the events. So like if this happened, and like the electoral next week or two for alberg, you can seem again voted out. But then like nothing really happens in the election comes from how people can be asleep at the wheel.

So sometimes the timing of IT really matters when events curve. But I guess I will do the question you who covers some cisco. So much like sam, cisco obviously reacted.

And from being A S I never rose how crazy. And cisco is part wars. And a lot times are crazy in york city. So like how did they will finally wake up and how can to be apply to york city?

What was like, what I ve said before, I think that there just became a story that you were able to talk about. Like once there are a lot of people writing about IT and talking about IT, you have to have an opinion about IT. Suddenly you were like accidently educating yourself about IT.

You most people didn't know what the district arney. I don't think I honestly don't think like people know the disappear ney is I genuinely, I think I really don't know shit like that. They don't care.

They don't think about until it's a part of their life. And that became a thing that everybody in the city just talked about. A big part of that was, I think, the media coverage of IT.

Thank you. And um and once I started is just what once to be became a thing that you have to talk, that I had to talk about but but that was being talked about. People neurally learn about IT formulate opinions about IT.

Maybe they disagree, but there at least educated on the basics. They know they know enough to be informed voter and then also to be outraged when things are going wrong. Suddenly, now things are going wrong.

And you know who specifically you need to attack. Okay, who is responsible for this? Is this guy right here? He's the D.

A. He's the reason these people are being let out. The way that I stop him is by voting on this date and for this other person over here. But they they have to know that first. And I think that you're not even at at level in the new york york like emphasis go as super transient but less um but new ork I think is more transient then um then even care cco crs O S huge voting blocks that uh have always lived in and always vote sort predictable ways. And um it's harder in new york, you a lot of people coming in there and out of there all the time, but still IT has to be .

done that a the coverage you did on crime and sf actually made IT into advertising circles which are you extremely left us IT broke up a writer or character pair who is the big deal really?

Wow.

my friend was like cat. I mean, have you seen this article on my life? I ve seen .

what's girl, yeah.

yeah. I think part of the shift tools in cement tisco, especially there seemed to be this like download turn paul, where you know, if you were like mentally ill, you homeless, like you at the top and if you had to commit crime for a living, you're that like women and children and or like down at the bottom somehow. Um and I think I think there's just like a little bit of a shift over times. It's like await these people aren't you breaking into cars by brother like seven million dollar crime rings um that are being uncovered and I think once people you start to realize that like that that person at the top of the victim of total poll, I might not be as worth protecting as they think. Uh, there could be a little bit of a shift there.

Yes, as such, a good point. We have victimized the victimizers. In a way, it's the story that we all in. Just, you do IT not.

You move to a big city, america, and you very quickly, you like, pick up that story that, oh, these people know, oh yes, sad. The crime is bad. But think about their life.

Think about how bad their life is. And I think that's personally, I think that's never valid at this point. I used to think that in these days, I don't even say I feel bad for people.

I I just like, no, that's that's not valid. But it's also not even true. If that were true would not be well. But it's not true like you are dealing with massive crime rings, drop the city and and and also you're dealing with just the problem of, I think I guess, the one that I I keep thinking about how to follow this because I think I should be a piece. I know I don't want to get stolen, but I have this idea. I think that if you got rid of publicly funded housing in any way subsidize funded whatever, I wonder what crime would look like in new or city or empresa. I think about like you're breaking into a car or something.

Do you have a day job? Like how are you paying your rent? Is how is that actually? What is your what is the life of the average criminal in new york cities after school of Angeles? What does that look like? Where are the criminals coming from? Like teenagers were living with their family or their parent or whatever? And then and then I think it's people who are on some kind of subsidy house is people who probably shouldn't be in the city otherwise.

And this is a guys we're getting any exclusive right now. This is like i'm just in in the asian space here, not even ready to drop p IT in peace. More I know. Did you see what i'm were getting with this? What is that crazy?

What do you think? I think there's also a lot of like homeless people that commit crimes to the like. This guy who went on the stabbing spread was 就 homeless.

a shelter? I thought .

that is true. That is true. Yes, he wasn't a shelter. So you're saying if I get rid of shelters, like would crime .

go down? Side of the city, far away from drugs and police and if and they're also like you shouldn't be speed, shouldn't a free pass for committing crime because your homeless I don't I am not commit that most criminals are homeless.

Yeah, I would agree with that. I think a lot of its more organized than we think.

especially I think there's for sure like that I was crazy. That's a good example. But like what the other guy was living in them, I was literally a place that we're paying for, me that math paying for.

Yes, I won't give you shut that down. Just what you know. It's it's not fully formed. I'm already to go. I are a little more no link betwen housing in crime. But I do think yeah just I feel like there's if you really were to pull back the current on this stuff, I think we would be directly funding a lot of the crime that were upset about and is also a small number of people, like both of these people have been arrested multiple times.

Um that is a very small percent of of people who cause ninety plus percent of the chaos in all of these places, and we just have to get rid of them completely. But you d have some come up in N L. A right of a version of this happening. You just had IT. You had the recall .

of a recall. Yeah I think like best like come back to what you are saying. There's a few like corrosive ideas that progressive have a progressive have that contributes this. One of them is that anybody deserves to live in a big city like there are some entitlement that like you, regardless of your income, you should be able to live in a any city you want, which I think you're not actually entitled to if I think like if you're going to live in L, A, you probably need to make enough money to live in L.

A, because L A might have if you're going to pay for the best services or the highest taxes, then um yeah you might need to make a lot money to live here. And I don't think that's actually think it's controversial to say like if you don't have enough money to live N L A or in sympathy o or in new york, then you don't get deliver here. That seems totally reasonable to me. Um the other one the other curse of idea that I noticed um was recently like very well, is illustrated in a tweet that I saw the other day which is somebody and the eet was really getting dung on by one of the red scared girls but the tweet was like, L, M O, you're afraid of your kids riding the bus and IT was in response to somebody who was like upset about crime in their city and they were saying something like, I don't I hate the fact that I like can but like IT on a bus, a public city bus to go to school anymore something like that and what that like feels to me like is that they not only want crime to be legal, they actually think crime isn't like like the fact that crime maxim is not a problem at all, you know and that's crazy to me.

It's kind call.

I think it's like crime is bad. No, it's part of the culture I think think crime is good or something like that city we'd even go that far, that crime is good or something um or its crime is good or IT doesn't exist or something like that is some other thing that's happening like diversity or something. Talk about people who like .

cheron jumping the turns out the subway.

yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the key s agents something it's like, no, they are.

but they are. How could you possibly care about this? How could you not care about this? Is, this is we are living in a city together, collectively, like we have to follow certain basic rules of adequate, or everything breaks down and stops working, and things are getting worse.

I, I, I really believe that they are getting worse. You look around, things are degraded. It's really hard to build new things. It's really hard to bring on new police staffing. For me, the crazy person, the crazy guy thing is very simple, just public. I figured who I was, maybe one of the company member or something was like, it's a mystified as to how it's a great mysterious to how this happened.

OK, I missed fied, how you're missed fied uh, what what happened here was pretty obvious if we can arrest anybody and crazy people were not allowed lock up and so this person, what was that I think was rilly you have to take like he stabbed someone and became IT was like, okay, he's too scary for the crazy personality which is going to release him and hope for the best we're just going to hope he doesn't kill anybody you guess what? You are wrong. He killed three people and it's going to keep happening unless you you figure out if you're going to say that, okay, we are crazy people.

He can help IT. He just crazy. whatever. He's still need to be locked. The fucker. He needs to be off the streets. He cannot be free to run around as a crazy person and kill people. It's very basic shit.

And they want to note that the guy, the manhattan burgh president and mark vine is the one, the guy is a tweet. Like, how could this have happened? You're like, fucker, you are in charge. I mean, how did this happen that makes you does to drive me the most crazy to look into this?

I just read this in york post t article yesterday or two days ago. The headline is trend. Auo has already set up shop in the sixteen states, homeland security warns they sent out an internal memo to the to other government agencies I guess they blame them on great immigration. Um this is like prety scary.

You know, this is also often framed as a smaller problem than IT seems. So it's in sixteen states. But how many people are there? really? How many cut crimes are there? really? What is that compared to the percentage crime nationally? And I think IT is definitely small definitely a small number compared to average crime of other groups nationally.

However, they don't live here. They're not from here. So like it's very easy to say you should not be here. And the fact that it's a small amount of people is not a reason to keep them here.

And and I always wonder like how is that a defense of them? How is that? How is that a defense of of criminals in the country right now? Is that there are not that many of them makes that okay. Are you okay with this crime or not? Doesn't matter if there's not a lot of IT and if there's not a lot of IT.

And that sounds really a really easy problem solve, not a lot of IT, then biden to just fix IT and he could have couple, would have one the election if this wasn't if if this wasn't a problem, all you had to do is a affirmatively, I see you, I agree with you, this is super fuck up. We're going to take care of IT a small problem. It's a small problem. So we're onna fix IT and they don't. And that leads me with two things just either want to complete collapse of state capacity, which I am inclined to think it's that, or two actual desire to watch the world burn, which I think probably if there is a little bit of that.

I will say it's at least possible to change in other cities other than seven years. We mentioned the George gascon, uh, he says, name he lost this year. So, I mean, whatever dynamic LED to his defeat neli like, hopefully that can one day translate to new york.

Like I don't know what it'll take. Like guest gone was on the ballot the same year of a big, huge presidential election. Maybe that's what IT takes. But yeah, like IT is possible to change in big cities other than differences go. But not sure what IT it'll take, but hopefully IT comes soon because da brags insane.

I know apart what is voting guy.

Here we go.

One of but I I know there is that .

election coming up with .

what doesn't matter if no one runs. That's another is you need good people to run and no smart people want to run for local politics. It's really hard to get him involved. Um sort of the slightly related question um the media bread in take IT away tell us about the fAiling fake ness .

media yes I don't actually know what that was but recently morning to host mika brain skii and joe um announced on their morning jail program that they had visited trump at morale go to discuss like immigration and other universes like other of trumps platforms.

Um mega I think that something like he was trying to Normal as relations with the White house um and some people noticed that uh new son put out ratings reports about this about about this particular episode of their show. And between seven and eight am eastern time, a viewership fell seventeen percent. Now this is a four hour show IT goes from six in the morning to ten in the morning eastern time I believe and apparently like because of the way people wake up in the different time zones. Um viewership of that show increases over the course of the four hours. But um this kind of buck that trend and the question is like why you know like if there was a backlash in these number, if these numbers show a backlash, like what happened, john steward call them out and literally just is probably because you call them hitler and that maybe what happened maybe maybe we saw the sort of some of the hard left fewl ship of morning show， uh, you know kind of the morning show, I guess so yeah, that's what I happen with .

that clip but then isn't the background is there's background on like M S N B C itself too, right? Are they?

Yeah so so so I mean, we cover this in the last podcast, but in since the election, viewership has dropped on nbc by fifty percent. Um we know that comcast is mulling a sale of M S N B C. Um and I think on CNN, they're talking about major layoff. S I think that Chris wallace has already been laid off is quit saying to start a podcast because they wouldn't give him raise or something like that. But ah journal looks like media ais not doing so great right now.

I think fox is something .

I think .

the twenty first .

of increased .

since the election increased. Elect, that's crazy to me. And who wants more election after the election? No.

but it's also it's also hurt. Imagine like people .

that we're watching.

seeing and being like now i'm just going to start watching fox and now like I can't see that happening doesn't make much sense to me.

but I don't know. I think there's that just like middle distribution that's going to go at the four of culture and it's shifted.

That's true and interesting. Yeah, that was the election, right? Saw you saw that even in tech with people coming out for trump, he just IT felt very a leaf on the waves kind of going, whatever the tie was taking them.

I think on the morning, joe stuff is interesting that they lost be erp on at a on on that episode because I think a big part of this decision of theirs was. Trying to fit themselves into relevance again. And it's a play for a long term.

I mean, there's a there's like a silver, which I was entirely for viewers, and then there maybe a nicer read, which is they really do want to heal and come together or whatever, but both of them conclude in the same place which is then trying to be more of a bridge rather than a tiny little silo full of people who don't wanna even look at trump. I mean, you have to be GoldenDB who doesn't say his name um and that's like kind of cringing and child dish. And there aren't that many the majority people like that.

And so if you want a bigger audience, I think you have to be a bridge. You have to stay relevant. You have to connect with the person who you may be disagree with.

Of course they are going to disagree. Um I don't know all about a million things, but I think is a smart move. E for them. I I I think I can be wrong.

I mean, if if he comes down and is an interview or something because of this, which also might have been discussed, then they could have the only relevant show on that program. I think they have to do IT at the the election ended and they lost and now they're completely iced out. And so it's like you want to access or not and I think that they do and name at the decision. And um I don't know if it's going to work out for them because I don't know that people are really dying for a more levering version of CNN. Um but we will see on the surface, I see what you're saying.

The problem is, is like they're known for doing this kind of like so trump, he has been friends with these guys in the past. He used to come on morning joe all the time. He used to call in that show constantly limit around twenty fifteen minutes, the first running.

And then those two swapped over to the trump is hitler thing in hypothetical reactions for the past eight years, and especially in the weekly enough to the election, they were like peak hysteria. An in in j girl s also, the one has said I talked to buy and he was he was coached. He was gravely.

So they've been doing this. So i'm totally find be like helius and let's find a bridge. Let's end this. Let's talk. I get him on the show, love IT.

But I think like you can't believe them anymore because there are just going to try to like, you know, fit whatever mole is convenient to them, which okay show is like to trying to get ready. And so a game respects game is powerful. Ling, but I mean, like I don't blame like people really like fucked this. I'm out, as with other M S N B C shows, as we CNN and know, and we were living.

I wonder if IT sort of like too late for them though, because they like built their brand at least recently, all around like prompt arrangement syndrome, right? Like fans watch them because of the arrangement syndrome. So like I wonder if like, like for new emerging media, I think it's the smart play to not go for trump hysteria. But when you ve already sort of build your brand around trump asteria and people are coming to for that, like are you even able to like pivot because someone who's tried to do this recently as Chris kuma, like he was full CNN lib and I was trying to be like base poca guy. And I think I wonder if it's like sort of working for him because like people always like bring up old CNN clipsed all the time every time is trying to make a point of like, oh yeah, we will what happen here and so I wonder if he is like sort of like too late for them .

to do the rebrand like you've .

already gone so in like .

I think crowell was I K I think that I audience, it's interesting as we talk about IT mostly in the context of social media people but yeah of course IT is a thing everywhere and especially for them and their stuck inside of their uh the M S C B C cat mom pan opto con and they take IT out and they're trying. But it's like because they know thinking ship long term, but they're stuck in there for now.

I I think it's like back to your point, two mat, which I thought was interesting yeah like how do you call someone hit learn and say, well, I just want us to come together it's it's sort of like, you know very jarring to see by and laughing with trump at a lunch um you know it's like, okay, well, is this the dissolution of you said the democracy was on the ballot. You said that like this is is a dictator um is is here or not like what are we doing here? And I I mean, I just what i've always to assume that he was lying about IT um but I guess for the average person who maybe didn't think that he was lying about IT, that would be disorienting and hard to stomach and maybe hard to tolerate moving forward.

Emr is no clothes. Y you just realized this is all fake, right? If you see by and laughing up with trauma tic of, oh, I really fell for something here like that's pretty journey if you're just like a simple of watching the news and turn on you, here is stereo.

And M, S, N, B, C would be the place that that would be the last out of these people, where they have nowhere else to go. Where are not chAllenging? Even C N N is chAllenging.

You a little bit like you really have this one bubble where you could go and be like, no, he really is hitler. It's OK OK. He really use heller.

Hello is really dear. He's rising. You have a right to be this scared and out of your mind. Last thousand, I was in me safe.

Hitler has been such a cultural touch point for the longest time. And I think that might that might be coming to an end. We should do IT like a logy for hiller.

No, because it's what happening here, like into the ground. R I P. haler.

I image I shared in the park of the twitter logos over the years and different versions of birds. And I concluded in twenty twenty two IT was IT was the x and then um and then in twenty twenty five, it's like the nai eagle with a small and I didn't feel any kind of way about IT IT. I didn't hit at all like I like IT to hit. I'm not scared of IT anymore. I see nazi shit online every single day in the bajo ity like to people throwing around obviously yeah doesn't um yeah it's lost its emotional shock whatever.

It's like the boy who cried wolf. It's like the lib who cried, hit her like we over .

so long decade. But this, I got a worse online. Everything is louder and scales higher. And so the sheer amount of hitler that you've seen does take away the room of just .

kind of tired right here was like, whatever like I think I so much was ever who was the hitler .

before there was hitler, you know, what were they? Where were they? Call on .

people who .

were evil in like nineteen, I know, thirty, like back there was rising. They are like men. This guys just like, who who are? They say he was just like.

like napoli or .

something maybe there people like the police was like, cool like to say.

you this persons like gangs is gone like.

yeah my body get okay into another thing yeah I think you just .

call them certain right and call the and they believed .

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On november twenty, twenty twenty four, the U. S. Department of justice asked a federal judge to impose significant changes on google following a ruling that the company illegally opposites. The search market, the D O jays proposal includes four main points. One, forced google to sell off its crowd browser to prove IT google for making payments to phone makers to ensure the default search option.

Three, allow websites to opt out of having google's AI models trained on their data for either have google device from his android film business or place the division under court supervision to prevent anti competitive practices. Now before this news, Polly market showed only a thirteen percent chance of google actually having a cell chrome when the announcement and broke the odd sky rock. And to forty percent, later settling around thirty percent where IT stands at the time of this recording.

Google strongly opposes these measures, calling me a radical agenda that would harm consumers, american uh, technological leadership and small businesses relying on their ecosystem. The company plans to find the company plans to file counterproposals next month with the hearing on remedies scheduled for April 225。 Ah that I was interested to actually hello, the odds are after the government crackdown in this way and I thought, is that just because is that just trump?

That was my my first question of all this. Is that just because trumps now in powers that why the odds soaks, that's thirty percent pretty low to me that this is actually that happen. Meanwhile, the government saying it's happening and you're not going get out of IT. So is that just we think that this, like a protection industry group is going to come in or something we think is happening there.

I think it's a strange target and there are more obvious ones like youtube could be span out as its own business. Chrome doesn't make money in of itself is basically just top of the funnel for google to get user data until like um fun of them till google search and other of google's products. So I don't if you if you break crime off of google, I don't even know how that makes any money as as a sandalled m business. So for me, maybe the markets are showing you know reflecting that that is just like not a not a practical um record like sort of suggestion or or or or ask for the D O J. But no idea where they're not just going to happen.

I was just going to say the same sort of question is used like presumably they're like on a time crunch cheer because like when the trumpet administration comes in, like you would think more probe business people would sort of fill those roles and the away from this approach. So i'm with you. I think like wouldn't they need to get this done like in the next sixty days?

That's what I think maybe you were betting on. I'm not convinced that trump, as is. Well, maybe here, I mean, I think that he certainly is indicated. We thought a lot about uh, i'm a bit about this in the context of europe.

So he certainly into protecting our businesses, which he perceives as assets to the country, which is nice because we have a government right now that genuinely has an issue with, I think, the concept of a successful business. So historically, businesses were targeted for anticompetitive, not anti petite, but for anti trust regulation when they harmed consumers. And that is no longer the case.

Uh, certainly that wasn't the case previously among lefties who were very kid into the anti competitive thing. And then now in her con, it's even starker. It's IT is like you could make some strange argument that is bad for the country or something that someone is uh so dominant in the market and you could be a sort of abstract ark talk about is a lot in peace.

Was IT amazon S S, the amazon antitrust paradox or something uh that you could pull up a screen shot of that i'll like you after we're done here. Um I mean truly vegan. Opposed to that he is he wants the companies to be as strong as they possibly can to compete globally.

But there is no global competition uh, on google so I don't know that I I see him being much more defensive of american like telic hard. I I see him caring more about apple, for example, than caring about google. I know why he there is not a search giant that's dominating abroad that's going to come in and steal our lunch hair.

So I don't know that he would necessarily jump in and and put his neck out there for this company that he perceived to be, you know, political threat forever. You also have popular all around him who are super anti tech right now. And an interesting open question of where this administrations going to land. I've seen positive signs. I've seen negative signs, and I really don't know actually which which way going to go.

Well, I mean, like don't we think that the outlook for the family is a lot Better in terms of like acquisitions emerges a with lindon presumably out the door? Or is do we know that lindon like that from me? That's not even clear too .

because he wasn't jd events fended whole meme of like is Linda best and IT is early very yes, you have to be like super niche to start up stuff. But basically, if you're going after these huge giants and that maybe is good for smaller upstarts, but IT speaks not at all to the danger that you face from abroad in in terms of competition.

So you're nee capping our largest companies, while china is just doing everything I can to build its largest companies to create the most unfair landscape possible for them to battle on. And so they're growing and growing and growing into these giants. And uh, we don't do that.

We don't support our companies in that way the least that I think that we could do is just not get in their way. And that is maybe the question that we're playing out now. This is which direction where we're going to go here.

I don't really think that i've never believe that competition like there too. Good competition. That's weird.

I an google created all these, the chromate created, right? Like gm l IT created. I don't youtube acquired, but that was what twenty five years ago about that.

I don't who cares that effectively google like it's been google forever. Um I think that there is dominant and that's not for me, a good reason to intervene unless there is direct consumer harm. And then I think i'm a little more open to IT, but we even seems a lot.

And I do think I need to be double click. Is this how strange IT is to have a government that seems to have a problem with the concept itself of successful businesses? They get to a certain size and nothing else matters.

The harm does not matter, competition doesn't matter, the the healthy vitality of your country's economy does not matter. If this company, if this company is too big, if someone has too much money, that is, that is enough to go after them. And that's really bad.

That's I think that's tied into the whole self hate that you see from the the of harness of the hard left that permeates all the identity politics. And everything like this is sort like hatred of american history and things like this IT. Is this like weird, counter intuitive thing where you just are are almost hit this self logger tion or something i'm thinking of like the the catholic cult in that direction movie like it's it's really bad.

It's really toxic. It's really new, especially on the economy side. You always have democrats.

Would they want more regulations or what not? For whatever labor reason, they really were hoping to do as much of that as they could without hurting the business. That was always the question. It's you know you clearly understand this is not right.

What you're going to do as much as the as you can before the business dies? And are you people coming with sleech hamer? And like now the company should just die because IT should die.

IT has nothing to do with labor. IT has nothing to do with any kind of moral uh qualms about um like competition or something like this. It's it's about that is just there's just a target because they are um that I think will not happen under trump will .

see the market hit all time high after trump was elected. There was a pretty significant bull run starting november forth. So I think you know at least I think the market thinks that has an optimism about .

the every market, american economy and the market. I is another thing though.

because you're there anounced resignation, you're getting ready of all the bodies in the .

big one universe at the time of recording. So tomorrow could be a hundred k and that's going to be, i'll see. But this time of our recording, and is ninety eight thousand five hundred dollars for a big point, that is crazy.

That that is crazy was also crazy. You ever like used to have entire like breadless media cycles back around twenty k no one could talk about anything else other than this. And now I just casually I scratching one hundred thousand dollars a coin um yeah because you and they clean house in uh just like there's nothing in the way now and so people going .

and you good yeah uh I mean, I think you with that going, they kind of wanted to watch people hang themselves a little little bit happened over ever and like a road trust but not to back to the hata of big business, but to me is just like such a shake down thing.

You know, like people really demonize like amazon for amount of taxes he paid as if they don't have a responsibility to their own board to be tax efficient, was just it's like crazy retaliation. I think you probably remember, like the billionaire scourge, I think all that stuff is gonna fts. I don't think people are going to get smarter about like understanding why people would want to reinvest back in to the business and just stay more taxes. But the vibe is definitely more previously. Yeah, I was like what .

you were saying before to just as the culture shifts, that middle section will just shift with IT doesn't even matter what .

ah ah ah was definitely a problem business. I mean a transnonain uh, treasury is how I like this, you know kind of for serial C E O. So like definitely the pro business group is here.

I mean, city alums is introduced on bills, senate. Now republicans are in charge. So it's it's very proper business.

So you devicesif, I don't understand the google grim thing at all, like why you've been going at. Just waste a time, my opinion. But why ask me?

It's not what you to do.

Get him in there. Get them in their coach. Matt is available.

Tap in for the D. O. J. Um your country wants you.

Okay, guys, we have to move on to partial and we're back to the greatest show on the internet. It's pierides were in the semi finals. It's andy and miles head to head each leading a segment. Um very excited. Let's just first all welcome back to the two of you.

Thank you. Thank you for having me and then coming.

Let's just get into IT miles. You're up first. You are leading our segment on the broader guardy break IT down.

I think by now, we are all aware of the vive shift that's occurring by here are some of the highlights from the past years. So early on we saw the brave frg guys, you and see, protect the flag from the I heart homos protesters. We agency mails, care, the republican party, the selection of forty nine percent of ency men voting for trump.

We got at john Jones representing his uf c. Belt to trump, which was very lenny, like a gladiator wearing a sd to the imperatrix. We had nfl players sitting the trump dance.

We also got the boys, elon and trump and rk, wearing private jets and big max, which is, there has to be a humiliation ritual for OK. But I aggress essentially men are so back. But the former twitter account, the guardian is not stoked on IT.

Carol caught volador according the term mate rolla archi, and publish a cheat sheet, if you will, of twenty rules you must follow, if you want to arrive. The innocence of the brows some of my personal favorites from the list are, make sure you take a note, roll ten, listen to women of color rule eleven, think of your personal data as new self is the best one is rule fourteen, paying cash. Asked yourself, what would an international drug traffic or do and do .

that the guarding of stupid. They deleted their twitter that are they left they left twitter are which we talked about. Uh, I think last week we went through some of the highlights there.

Um I do want to add something here that feels probably a little bit IT south inflated statistical I I peace about the blotched and I feel like this is crimping from me. This feels like the leftist bizarre world version of that story. It's like mine was even think about what they are talking. It's like the pilati adverse, the Oliver y so i'm talking about you know the people are rising and they're like the small cabal of evil people are in charge.

Of course, they're really talking about is uh separate from the the sort of mean like the boy thing um they're talking about what like elon mosque they're talking about trump doing what guy quoted things, I guess and this is inherently threading, which is funny because I think they really do think that I think they do think that there is something inherently threatening about guys just guys being guys acting like guys liking guy's things that code says to them danger, which probably says more about like the last five years, I think that says about anything they think I do want to add just one final thing before I kick this over the u. exam. Curious what you think about this.

Um specifically as our as our women today, to give the perspective I want to know a what this is a british woman writing for a british journal telling what americans how to survive like who asked you like why is your own fucking business? No one is over here talking about your weird teeth. No one is over hear talking about the fact you have a caliph in the U.

K. Now, like, no one cares. We were on this side of ocean.

You're on that side of the ocean. We fought a war for IT. Like, why are you still talking? I don't understand. Eat, what are you?

Oh, man. Um yeah. The broader k on one hand, you might think, like I would be so great. Top someone as intelligent as you are involved communicator like rogan, you know some of IT, it's like it's horribly and sexy. 什么 是 guys .

I don't really want to .

be in that room and they don't done at .

the picture of them and of like a mcDonald's jet yeah.

yeah. You know, I look at IT and I just like, how are they going to? How are they going to shift culture in a way that completely crews this up because we have this like army of like pick me like coming out the woodworks like my study has a choice .

like this is just got like so bad.

so bad. It's like like sims to eagles, but it's like the brows.

I think it's also there's something fighting to me about A P says like and that just a has in general, which we've been talking about you know for a bit now IT does seem to get worse and worse among a small class of people, which is like the people who run the media. The specific kind of woman actually who writes is what IT seems like to make. She's telling you to be to be fearing for life. Basically, this is literally how to survive the broader ari.

And I just feel like it's how do you tell people their life is in danger and then try and coin a word like brother darky and said, that's the thing that you should be fearing IT just IT seems to me like maybe they don't even believe in themselves like they do is like looking for something to say um which is kind of how I feel that all of these uh the the administrative choices that trump has been making where we're at like level nine for every single one of these nominations. I remember we never even talked about them during the by administers. There are one or two would be notice, but most of these things are just not discuss because no one cares.

These are being dissected and dissected and amplified, and its whole new cycles around each one. I think today, gates just stepped down after a whole sort of days of talking about him. Ah it's just yeah where nine.

I think because people are looking for stories because they really have to kind of maybe validated the story they've told over the last year, which is that hiller is coming to power and the hiller is coming to power. And then all we're seeing is a picture of a bunch of dudes on a plane in big max IT. Just that doesn't add up to me. I don't miss you want to talk about, uh, some of these .

these choices. They are right. Yeah was I mention my doctor as a new choice, which is funny.

and I didn't. That was real. I saw that before you were like email. I thought, I think that was just like, someone mean, I know, what was he tapped in .

for head of medicine? Medicine.

which is OK what? Yeah, I don't know. So I remember .

the debate there asking trump about what this plane was been funny like my plane is doctor us. But he is more just like once to privatize. He was a very big on medication, and he was once to privatize medicaid as much as possible.

But I don't know. I'll be cool to see though, like the department of government efficiency, like really, I don't be cool, but see what they could do with medicare. And so big now and the enlaced mic man .

was the is doctor was going to require, like all medical patients to take his like fake supplements.

All I know about doctor oz, I do two things. One, my money, to talk a lot about them back in the upper days. And IT was just, I associate him with like, just TV knowledge.

He's one of these like TV knowledge people just imparting knowledge about health or whatever. I just don't listen. And and two, he ran against fetterman and lost.

And I I think that he lost because he crudity right in my mind. That's why he lost. He lost because he talked about crudity and they had him talked about cruddas and how to create like a great crudity platter. Or maybe he was, even he did like, see, this is totally fake news. There's no actually would happen. But in my memory would happen is he didn't add for his campaign that was kind of A T V spot something, and he was in a grocery store, and he was putting together, yes, the vegetables that he wanted running for, the a of pencil vania. And good, I to find that is an entertainer.

What kind.

how bad of a candidate .

do you need to be to lose like a fucking stroke in this?

Yeah, I like I agree.

I mean, this is what I mean, federman is way Better now. He's like actually kind of made like a kind of a macular st recovery. But I mean, dude, IT was bad. Yeah.

he did. I would say though, he's still in not that bright and also a slab and it's offensive to you in congress. I don't want to see you in hoody.

I don't want to see IT like that night i'm on a podcast. I can dress whatever I want. You are congressman like or a senator rather like. You have to go there and be a senator like represent us. It's embarrassing like a much like .

the ms just and if I can suit be Normal well.

he's like the ani democrats now, I guess. And I also wanted to be consistent because I I thought he was I thought he was like a dumb slob bish sort person before and I I don't want us to hear me like that is great now because he's slightly because he took the huge step to say that the terrorism was bad in a moss and and like what's the other one he's done recently said like a democrat ran bad camie n okay, like not to be a rocket scientist to understand that. So i'm giving IT.

I'm not ready to give IT to him. I am not ready to give IT to him, right? I want you in this chat, give me something, tell me the broad, give me the, give me your perspective on the roller jarque.

So just how how you actually do something i'm going. This is for for, this is for the audience. My mom watched the show and he told me that I need to do a Better job of inviting William because he likes him.

She's biggest fan. He has been. She's been he's like he's really developing that. So you're not .

I yeah that I have fans up there let's go will say I will say on. On the topic of how we got to this stage of the burla jarka, wonder how much of IT is just a vibe shift, like the pendulum swing back after the days of me too, in the lectures about the page, like guys still think back to that. Like you guys remember that like geet commercial from a furious back that was like lecturing about like toxic masculinity.

Like you contrast that with like now of like u fc fighters and frack guys doing the trump dance. Like that's a complete one eighty poll shift from where we were like five years ago. I wonder if it's sort of a reaction to where we were.

It's definitely a react. It's a reaction. But the way are you saying the the the performative mascula ity is the reaction or yes, the I I think what is interesting to me is like how an augus IT is.

It's frais dancing. It's not that big of a deal. But those really were the kinds of things that were being attacked, ed, just a few years. So like we were conflicting rap way is doing a dance with frame gang raping a person at a frag party and IT turns out the gang rape wasn't even real. Totally made up story.

I thought the n felting was pretty interesting because like the the players openly dancing on the field, like that doesn't really happen. Like one and four player named expose of war maga hat years ago never hears the of IT and the same like nfl sunday, like three or four players to doing IT, like they're definitely comfortable doing that's .

like that's a huge y ship that just to do IT anything .

I think they were or and so I saw .

the sort of cultural stuff bubbling up about that topic, and I thought i'd definitely seen the nfl cracked down on all sorts of stupid .

to fly everything, do a little bit of Operation. They have a flag .

yeah like regular dancing, just regular performance, let alone something political like that. Um why is that I so no, I just .

stupid rules. They make silver rol players, sports talk, I will be, I want to .

spend .

their audience.

They they don't want to .

end their audience. They don't want like to lose. They want people seeing them doing their .

trumpton ance yeah I don't .

want to watch .

and I fell any work right.

But the broader thing yeah they like you know during .

the during the you know regular I guess we're calling IT now national anthem but you know so I don't know, mam, I mean, that seems like they are quite willing to offend like .

certain people I care of this. There is .

second few versions .

is a remake.

Everyone is a national. Come, let's talk about, I listen. It's been a great episode, loving the parodied segment, what we really, really need to talk about, uh, thanks giving is obviously it's coming up. It's just, uh, what a few days so probably you're all traveling like a few days from now, monday, tuesday or something. And specifically, what we need to talk about is the toxic thanksgiving uncle of your nights res, which I think we got a couple of this chat, and I would like you to break this topic down for us today.

For sherman, the basic theme of this is people need to calm the fuck down. People need to calm down. This all like reaction to the election is absolutely crazy. Um and I think the latest example of this is all the women, mostly women with respect eat decided to.

The women have decided to skip the holiday now because their families and for truth, and they cannot be around them.

But you might have to do yourself so. So evidently.

we've got sixty five percent of americans who are saying we've got like election related stress and that is impacting their holiday plans news week as this article entitled women are boycott thanksgiving with their trump supporting family and a man is this impact to with some fun quotes a apparently there's this woman, ana gant, who was on tiktok and went viral with this clip where SHE said, you know i've made the decision for myself and my fiancee and our child to skip out family holidays with my family that voted for trump um continuing on saying, like you know, it's not that there were this is the fact that theyve voted for all truck knowing who he is and what .

he's capable of ve, it's you've got I had this map of space but this is kind of intergenerational ick. Is that what is the interesting thing about all of this is that we have concurrently stories about what could potentially be the biggest travel day in history. They said they were about to break records for the many of people that are travel around the makers giving.

So it's like it's just noise. These I don't even know that these people are really at themselves. Let a lot of this like a mass movement is just people writing about a mass movement.

I will also say um just the idea that if you voted for trump, your voting against people like me or whatever like to be in my family there's no one in my family who's a violent Venus well in like illegal immigrant and that's and that's the only person boating like that is I would understand if IT was that dude who we were talking about earlier who was assaulting the assistant da in new york city and he's about to be deported and he didn't want to have thanks giving with me like I, I, I get I country. So it's like it's a trade there, I think. But yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't think it's I think of I look at maybe i'm just naither optimistic or something, but I just sort of don't believe it's real. I don't believe you.

right? Actually, I really don't. I mean, this is this is a sort of thing that like G O goes viral on on social media because because it's so like crazy and overload. And you know, yes, there is a people who are you know they are pissed off about the election results and stuff like that. But you know like in the end, you know people really are able to just kind of like put this stuff aside and and get along with each other.

but does not found is this article is argo have kind?

Yes, they do. Yeah and and yeah they have they have a kid, at least I think it's one kid who's in college. And you know he was like SHE wrote to him and and was like, you know talking to .

him about about.

I don't know, trying to talk him off the ledge to which means this chick is totally done the number on this kid's head um but yeah yeah they do. So if women aren't .

actually boycott their thanksgivings, are they cutting sex? Did you guys see that?

We can talk about IT.

but I made the point .

last week in .

the podcast um I was like we're not going to be talking about this in two weeks because it's fake. And I have know anything .

about four bees since b is probably more real than people not going to someone's house for thanksgiving. I don't know, maybe everyone is families different than mine, but there I can't think of a thanksgiving when there wasn't like some slightly awkward thing that was in play that people had to navigate. This is what having a family, any kind of family, friends, extending our community, that's what IT is, makes funny.

And he is fun as bt. I love that something. drama. I love IT. I ready brought IT, who is matter who and why, and like what are we talking about? Though I didn't remember, we always sort of conclude when I was really Young, those like like desert and ghostly ies, there were always somehow ghost's ies that I might aint party.

But right, you, I feel like you would have an interesting insight on this because you are working at thought out of log for years back in the day. And I think of this kind of how to deal with your toxic thanksgiving unclear whatever stories, it's a genre of content been going on for a long time. This is not a new thing .

since the beginning of internet time. Yes, I don't know if IT existed before that, but I think it's a unique um like digital thing.

yes. So it's like a general of internet content. Yeah what do you think is what do you think is the the thing behind the thing here? I R C.

people who I want to, they say something get somewhat shocking. And and other people, and I think they voice, I think they are voting like the anxieties of millennial who don't know how to argue with their you with with their, with their family or or whatever. And like instead like they choose friends giving, you know, justify friends giving, I don't know, I think is just like narcissa ultimately .

what you know. I mean, the other thing is, do you have to argue with your your family about the election? Like do .

you have to I if IT comes up, if they throw, they throw in your face. If they throw the I thought i'm not trying to read the stuff because I know that I i've been training. I live on the internet.

So it's like i've been training under ten ex gravity and is someone who's not believe that into shit has an a painting. My older brother, for example, and he decides he's going to throw some an informed opinion now at me. I I don't want to start that conversation because I know i'm going to come in hot and i'm going to be control myself.

I think what they get started here, I think I think what started, it's it's it's hard to keep on the rails like I know this thanksgiving for sure. Um man, i'm going to let my all my family's business right now, uh you know I won't get to somewhat my mom and my sister, one of them vote up for trump and one of them absolutely did not vote for trump. And this has been a bobbling drama for a while now because they they like my mom specifically like really needs to explain why she's doing IT and um once to kind of keep initiating the conversation and my sister is this kind of person who really doesn't to talk about IT but also does really have strong opinions.

They're intelligent women. They are both very strong women and ah I just know if they're going to be a fight about trump. I know IT, I know more. I know almost. I can't even more than I know anything else is going to happen as giving those who are gonna have a fight about trump at some point and and i'm going to be there no, to write a .

piece about IT like not in .

a post lady yeah.

yeah it's sillies. It's it's like the main aman at the party is like SHE is going to go down and at some point .

it's going to happen is you got to hope about your proximity just completely took over. And the clothing about cooking for thanksgiving is you get to opt out of everything and just open whether you want lily on your terms because you have a job and you're busy and everyone's very thankful for that. And so you just like you have a free pass.

I have a theory for why the political talk has become like so unavoidable recently. And I think it's because like we just these days have like so few to talk about other than politics like there used to be a point when like everyone watched like math or something on TV or like everyone saw the movie that was in theres then or like listen to top forty radio. I think culture is much less homogeneous now and so it's sort of left like nothing to talk about other than like politics because it's the like.

So that's really interesting in touch with everyone knew something about. And so just out of almost social anxiety, you want to raise the thing that everybody knows about.

yes, these you want to sports to like sports game on the beautiful game on in.

My family come from a family of lawyers, so we were always arguing politics and philosophy and stuff anyway. And even though we are all, we're not like a politically divided family, we're all on the right. We all have sort of like you really like varying takes on you know conservative or you know that in my case, like sort of conservative libertarian politics.

And um so even though we're all like basically on the same side, there's still in an awful lot of arguing and my mom and I get the most heated about stuff. So it's always fun time at the the jone's household who cook, who cakes my mom, my mom cake. Well, some of us will yeah yeah SHE still still works too so she's you know no SHE yeah. Also I did .

want to say like we wanted to give advice to some of our our listeners if you're .

the uncle at at the and my advice to you is don't pick a fight you're not prepared to fight because like if you come up on prepare, you're going to lose. And that's really what brain of touching up before it's like. These people who are not the reason have anxiety Better because they're not prepared to talk to people who are actually well read and well research.

And i've thought about these things a lot of themselves and just simply disagree, and that's the kind of conversation do not used to that. They're not used to going into an environment that so that is my advice. The toxic alcohol thing is all about asking questions.

Oh, that's interesting that where you find that out. Why do you think that? I think we told you that? Oh, no, you feel that way about this other related interesting and just let them go and that the wrong method .

can be uncle. Anyway.

they know that you're wiser and smarter and Better, and they're trying. I actually, I have a this who did SHE just the last, last thanksgiving. So we have not quite gone there, but we were on the way back to the to the airport and he asked what my politics were and I was like, oh, girl, you don't this is not, we don't have to do this.

We don't .

have to do that. He would be like thirteen and and SHE um but like very like very like I mean lives on a socialist like island it's like I mean it's yep it's rich person's island. It's like there the middle class come a family but they live on this like beautiful island of the cosmic at, surrounded by, like, very laughing ing people.

And I just thought, h, we're going next year's going to be banger because your entry high school, you're gona have opinions. You're gonna know for sure. As certain as I was, you're going to be that certain about how right you are about things.

But you nice, I right? Just have this at all. Anyone, I mean, are you is all just like the passive sort of, uh, not obviously not you, but like maybe a brain to you. Strike me like a peace .

maker yeah I don't want to argue with. I have like bad like factory call and I have somebody in my family who I love very much and like who has very he has like very encyclopedia all and so you can put its like very it's very surface level, right? So i'll just like recite old things that happened and I can't fact I came in real time and like, I know he's wrong but i'm just like yet like, okay, like that's a good point trumped say this one racist thing at one point but I don't know you know but yeah, i'm like more passive than I try.

I just try friends he call her in a CIA they have their person in the back room like telling them what to do .

and stuff .

you get .

work yeah I know me my my mom are like very interest people and like always kind of have the same natural position on things. Um there's not really that much just like this harmony, Frankly at my table kind of is you .

the peace maker or are you the one throwing .

bombs are a small family. We already talk about politics too much, but I know my sister is very like left wing, but every time I try to, i've try to argue with her, but she's not going for probably the incident, to be honest, make you want to talk .

about IT. Um well, I I I guess we're writing down here if you don't have any final comments about thanksgiving in the vi of the tar uncle warning signs, how to deal with anything .

out there what you got I don't know. I guess my my party words are just, everybody, calm down, okay, it's going to be okay. Like, you know, he he already did to four years and there weren't any camps, there weren't any trains. There were markets nobody was getting pulled off the street and taken away from you. And that's not gonna en this time .

either well unless you're a violent venezia in legal o they .

i'm not talking to them but yeah .

yeah .

you're going .

my neighbors and my neighbors .

gonna for thanksgiving.

I mean, i'm from farming families. People have to agree with each other um I don't know you can really, really talk about you.

You like i'm having an abortion right now.

Yeah, that's a good one. They go, guys, not serious device, but in all, ha, see our seriousness. Have a great holiday. Stay safe.

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