Total Victory! Trump Wins In Landslide, Dems In Shambles, Vibe Shift In America ft. Bridget Phetasy
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Most of guys, welcome back to the pod. Thank you for giving us that extra week while we were head on bridget fta y in the house who is also at her right on the nc extraordinary cracking jokes at all of our expense, but probably no one's expense more than ran Johnson, uh, the model man, that was fine. Thank you for doing that and thank you for joining us.

Thank you for having me. What an exciting time.

I mean, you obviously listen this is maybe that like give us some kind of amErica fireworks flag in the background. This is the election episode.

Obviously we had to talk about IT. Um one of the reasons I really want to bridge here today, other than the fact that he is just a funny, brilliant geoeye man being, is I noticed that he got you got in this a really interesting dust up with the header dox people which were going to talk about a little bit later who felt you know, he was just really insane that you wouldn't vote for the same person they were voting for.

Um before we get into that though, I think that we probably just should tee up what happened on tuesday. And IT was just a wild, overwhelming trump Victory. IT was a comeback in other man lost the last election or somebody says had IT stolen.

I don't know if anyone in this child would say that. He certainly won this last one. We kind of felt IT early on in the night.

I was I just like felt the vibe, right? IT just didn't. Once those first results started coming in, nothing even change.

I'm not sure what IT was. I just I had got feeling and let just go through some of the stuff that we saw. So obviously, he won the electro al college, but then he sort of critically won the popular vote.

I think psychologically, that's really important for the country. IT also hasn't happened in twenty years. There were all of these strange anodos coming in from around the country.

One of the first ones I saw that I really shocked me was miami beach. Miami dead county hasn't voted for republican presidential candidates since one thousand nine hundred and eighty. IT was plus eleven trump, uh, you had plus mad or producer mad, the pod, uh, mentioned before the show started, or maybe was in our slack.

York city obviously went camera, but swan, nine points in trumps direction. H every single swing state was one by trump. You saw huge gains among latinos, uh, in black men as well.

You saw one of the crazy st ones for me was Young man, eighteen to twenty nine plus thirty. There was like a thirty point. I think he was swing. You had huge gains also in blue states.

So no one's going to talk about new jersey because you know went but the fact that IT came so close, you saw you saw gains all throughout the state in different counties that used to be uh biden countries and now trump countys and you just thought I can narrow margin. I think he was a plus for the commonly have taken a by saw gains in Virginia. And then there's a story in california.

So i'm in los Angeles right now. The program D A, I guess gone, I think, is last time is was fired. You had a prop thirty six past, which we criminalizes h IT makes once again theft of merchandizing under one hundred fifty dollars.

Me, when you go, you rent sea store. That's now a felon again. So this is this sort of like a make crime illegal again policy past, I think IT was like by forty points.

IT was an over again and overwhelming Victory up in san Francisco. Mayor breed fired up in oakland. You had the mayor and the D. A. Both recalled IT was just a IT was a massive sort of, I mean, around the country route.

I would say the house is now uh, in the baLance IT looks like it's gonna republic in the senate is in the hands of the republicans and Donald trump and there's lots to talk about. I think the question for you guys right off the bad is just how do you see this? Are you seeing this as more of a of a trump Victory or a loss for democrats?

IT feels like A, I mean, both, I think, I think why not both? I think IT feels like a trump Victory. Obviously, the popular vote, I agree, is psychologically important for the country, but also for him. I think IT makes him see, you know, he was the thing that he wanted so badly in twenty sixteen. And IT does feel like a loss on the left because reality, really, everything you just ran through is really examples of reality reasserting itself in a way that i've i've been kind waiting for in america. But I think like the IT feels like the grown ups stepped in and we're like, okay, enough of all this nonsense like we let you guys say that men could get pregnant and now or done like, all right, we've had enough of this silliness and we will let you guys, you know, loot stores for a while. But I IT does feel like there's a little bit of a push back from just like the silent majority kind of spoke up.

yeah, rally brain, what do you guys? I mean, broke in L. A.

What is the, what is your sense of the vibe? I'm here. I happened to be here this week, but, but not typically.

So break IT down for you. What was that usually like there? I mean, what are people been saying? What is the reaction?

So I live in gandel, which is a majority of majority armenian, has the largest population romanians in the country. And there they're pretty they are on the base side of things. Um my personally, my neighborhood was full of commonly science.

They're all gone today. I saw tweet like today, which I didn't believe. Somebody said somebody y's twitting like, you know, in my community, I can say that I voted for commoner because I would be me like I would get critical cancelled because I think the opposite still remains here. Anybody who voted for trump is not talking about the fact that they have voted for trump.

If you just saw today that on twitter I saw on my turning section that like newson has like convened like policymakers in california um preventively to like fortify california from like the attack on democracy that trump s is is you know essentially preparing so um I don't you know like. I eventually gone out to bars since the election. I don't like know what the vibes, but like my my expectation is like this is going to be a sanctuary, an city from like the actual realignment that's that's actually happening.

It's crazy because when you said that new some convened policymakers, I I, I assume he's a smart politician. I assumed IT was something along the lines of. He read the room and gathered people together and said, hey, if we don't take care of some of these really dragged policy positions, we are at risk of losing the state.

And IT maybe IT seems like no I to go off bridge what you were saying before um in in terms of IT seems only likely adults in the room kind of V I I had a similar feeling. It's sort of I think if I had to to to steal what happened on tuesday into one piece, I mean, obviously mp is funny and he has his core group of fans who who love him in the means were on point. But I I really think that IT was a kind of, you know fuck around and find out type election IT was like you opened the border and let him between ten and twenty million what illegal immigrants we don't even know that number first of all, like that's crazy, by the way, that you don't know that number.

Um you then paid these people with taxpayer dollars for their rent in their food, while americans were strugling to pay their own rent because of economic policies of yours. Spoke around and find out, you know amErica had to watch, uh, no biological men beat the shit out of a woman at the olympics. And then was gas sled when we said, hey, this seems off right.

Like, fuck around and find out there's all the law. Fair stuff I was thinking about like the idea that they thought americans, we're gone to watch the state wield all of its power against not only the front runner, opposition candidate, but all of his allies many whom, by the way, I went to jail um and be more afraid of him than them, is delusional. Like fucking around and find out there was a whole list of things like that and and I think that you you can really say there are basic there are these three very, very basic, basic, basic things.

It's the border, it's crime and it's the economy. And I think these are like these are roughly the things that you would turn um you know a part of the social contract. The bare minimum of what you expect from the state is why we sacrifice rights to the state, is why we give them taxpayer dollars.

And when you don't take care of those three things, you are breaking your side of the deal. Your government is no longer legitimate. There was a massive right.

And I think that was on those grounds. Republicans probably would be I I think they would be very they should not think think of this as a Victory for them. It's a Victory for trump.

And IT is really an entitled, I think, of of the of the shirking of responsibility, ie. S that we've seen for many years like as you said, that was a returned writing that was twenty twenty gan. And it's kind of this feels like the end of that period of time in american politics to me, I hope yes.

I think if you are to say it's more of a tram Victory than the democrats loss, what you would look to as look to a strategy. And I i've never been more happy to say I was wrong, talked about the podcast campaign strategy for trump earlier ede. I had skepticism and I thought this wasn't a reliable voting demographic.

It's a risky IT may blow up in his face and instead proved to be pretty genius I mean, like the zoom or brows turned out in full force with massive swings to the right like you mentioned um and it's just an incredible swing and you know we'll get into this topic later i'm sure. But just the erosion of trust in mainstream media really left the door open for podcast to sort of filled the void and you they proved to be far more influential than I thought they'd be, I guess. Sorry, barren for doubting you. I guess he was sort of the architecture of that strategy and his grandpa's a year about that one. But yeah, I guess like to quote the title of a previous sona banger like we really are the media now and that's kind .

of did you see and say that he actually he said, I think you want to says that you are the media an hour something he was very tired wires coded like let's go the is the man is reading he's paying attention um yeah agree at the podcasting important this was the podcast election.

You know, this was if you just and we have the whole chart of in our last episode of just the podcast that people had done, media is fragmented now we know this and we can get into IT now, but it's it's totally fragmented. And so you can't just go to the york times, which is obviously on your side and a and expect them to to send out your your story. You have to go to all these difference sort of silos of audiences to rogan being one of the biggest that come on, didn't care about.

But I wonder if you to count the number of podcasts and the number of listeners on those podcasts and compare the two, the two commons to trumps, I want to what you would see. I I think I think the only thing you could clean from that is like, of course, trump on, he worked harder. That's another piece of the story that maybe is not it's kind of ignored.

And this happened during the the hilary uh, campaign is, well, where job just works. He really does work a lot. He is his touring, touring to touring, touring, touring.

He's hitting every single location he's talking to, everybody he's dipping in from like you know, rally over in wherever the Helen pennsylania that he's going to. McDonald in doing his tour, whatever, anything. Ning, joe rogan.

And I mean, come on days, I think I kind of birthday, I don't think he did anything. I just seems um I know SHE just didn't wanted as much as my opinion. I still think that about her.

I don't think he wants this. I think that he's going to open a restaurant in napper and um it'll be great. I'm going to go.

And that's what you should do. I'm happy for ye. It's interesting.

The podcasting, because I was so silent, I feel like I was did make IT hard detail. A lot of us were like, feels like trump s is gonna win. But I wouldn't be surprised of commended because I know that I mean a bubble, and I don't know, and I try to pay attention to the other bubbles.

But because everything was so stratified, you really couldn't get like a good idea of the polls. You could get a sense. But IT was, I I was very much burned in twenty twenty two, thinking for sure there would be a red wave, and then was very wrong about that at the mid term.

So this time around, I think I was a lot more measured in terms of my confidence, and I got feeling on the temperature of amErica and IT. Turns out my gut feeling was right up for really the past four years. I've been seen this trend by.

It's all of like that. You know, everybody being so dispersed makes IT hard. Or I think, be confident in your ability to predict anything.

Yes, I felt the same sense of not knowing going into IT where I I really was doubt ing myself. My god, also was IT. Seems like, you know, I have all of these friends who voted for biden, who are now voting for trump.

Yeah now I travel a bit throughout the country. I see trump support everywhere. I was looking at just all the rallies and the enthusiasm. And then certainly what we all feel online of the podcasts, everything on x um but then you have is you you have you have then your times you you have judge report which is sort of I mean used to be the sort of road guys and now they are just totally trumped ranged. They are like they're like the wild version of the main remedia.

Now like a little bit edge but um they are obviously pro Harris and they're studying polls which we're onna talk to in a second our polar market segment um but all the polls were what a coin toss to slightly leaning towards cama and I thought, man, he was one of our friends right brand and our friends ryan. He he said, I don't know what's right right now and I I am not gonna know. I think until the election, I don't know someone is line to us like we're a little a lot when this election happens.

And I went in with a giant question until really those first few moments when the results started coming in. And then I knew that, you know, the right wing, the twitter thing, the sort of retarder sphere, right? There are a lot of conspiracy theories.

There was a lot of made up bullshit. There were a lot of fake celebrity endorsements. There was a lot of weird made up sex scandals.

It's a garbage dump that ecosystem of like newsletters and alternative media sites and ext t calm and podcast. But in within that garbage IT contains everything like that contains all of the garbage and all of the truth. And you have to just be able to navigate that.

And in contrast, what you see from the sort of much weaker now mainstream media that that like of legacy press, the sort of state voice on from times M B C M S B C C N N, like all those people, is not that it's not the truth. It's it's a single perspective. IT is I think you could still minute and say they don't mean to be so biased, they didn't mean to get IT.

So to get IT wrong, they just, they just were blinded maybe by what they they hoped for. But one thing I know for sure, I didn't, I didn't get the answers from them. I got IT from from the garbage dump.

I think one of the things that I think you saw just to to continue with the post morning on the on the trump Victory is like when you have these means going around, like women saying that that a tram Victory is going to basically cancel out women's rights for good, you know, like I think what we saw is like that represents the left basically like running on, like narrative messages, like fumes, because like, just simply wasn't real.

I ask perplexity like, give me a list of times that trump in vance denied that they would support a federal election. So a federal portion ban. And I got like a list of eight times with no sources from cbs MBC, you know like M P R every place.

And and it's like so when you have these narratives that like are actually just substantive, I think that actually doesn't IT doesn't work. And I think that's what we saw. And I saw this great tweet um about about the situation where IT IT was basically just like fake the federal version an ban.

And somebody said these people don't believe that. They believe that they ought to believe that. And I think that that perfectly describes how the left lips and what like what the left lips looks like. And I think. I think that doesn't have much power actually in the end, I think that's what we saw with trump.

I think one one hundred percent true. I think on on the. The abortion stuff in particular, that was also just interesting where we were told that was really, really important. And all of the we ve since ince the election indicates that IT really, really wasn't.

And IT makes sense when you break IT down because who really demographically cares about that? IT happens to be one of the few demographics that voted for democrats, which is college educated women. And and, and is, so it's like you have these black women voted overwhelmingly for Harris.

So that black man, but just weight fewer of them then did IT for button like there was this huge trump surge. And then you have college educated White women um who are voting. And college educated White women really do seem to care about the abortion.

But everybody else, I think it's like you you could care about abortion and other things I always think about, you know what women's write, you know, or women's interest, like what is in women's interests. And I feel like what the border is like, are there women who care about the border? Are there women who care about the economy? And there are women who go grocery shopping and realized that everything's really expensive right now and the rent is really expensive and you're not a lot to build housing.

And like if you get mugged outside, there's that you can't get justice. Like don't women care about that? And it's like, yes, I think a lot of women are just people and they care about these things.

That people americans care about is my sense. But we have a woman in the pot today. What is your sense making us as a woman right now?

I was I was joking before the election, because I, because I got burned in twenty twenty two, is right after row wade. And I thought that people would be very mad about the lockdown. draconian. I, I thought the'd punish our governments for so much as the cove IT over reach.

And I had to come to terms of the fact that IT was no reference bias, and also just the the on the heels of robi weight, the whole abortion thing was so, and IT just was so in the mainstream. And I kept joking like, bitches love of orations. I was like, never underestimate how many, how much pitches of abortion, but I will say the fact that I could even make that joke, it's almost, it's almost points to just how much resistance to that idea there is.

My generation, I think, is the first generation that came. We really were the first sexually liberated generation will be 4o gsh i'm like forty five so I was the first generation and a lot of us have IT was like drilled into us that that was almost part of your identity， you know being pro choice and and IT wasn't really until authorities. I even knew anyone pro life.

I never had to interrogate that belief. IT was installed in me before. I really even had a chance to interrogate 你的 at all。 And I think the Younger generation has a little bit of that, but they're not also having as much sex just from a numbers perspective as we were.

So I don't know if it's that important to them from just a practical perspective, but there are also just more like the kids. The Younger kids are just more engage in the culture wars in a way that I never was because they are on tiktok and they're getting all this stuff and I actually think they're exposed to more um diversity of opinion and even I was as a Young person. So they're not I don't know that they're all been like brainwashed in the same way that I was around this topic.

And I also think there are women that they rely on to be kind of brainwash have aged out of worrying about that. And we're worried about groceries. We're worried about crime.

We're worried about our kids being in a bathroom with A A or some boy competing against start daughters at sports, the generation that really was a very pro choice and they could rely on to lake. You know it's like that little like I don't know, it's like A A trigger that goes off in your brain where you're like this is all that matters. Um we got older, he doesn't and it's not the most important thing anymore.

Abortion was never an issue that was won by the voters by IT didn't IT wasn't a law that was passed IT was decided by a court because there wasn't enough popularity there to do IT. So if we're going back to the state pre row and things have been locked forever since were no other no other political are cultural issue seems to be like this where you know get gaed off and uh, civil rights, you move on very quickly.

Generations move on very quickly and Normalized. They sort of upload the new culture and that's IT. And abortion has never been like that. It's always been pretty divided. And we have really thought about IT because of now it's back. And people, I think or are kind of the ambivalent on I think most people want some degree of protection and like the earlier stage and then they get confused on the later stage and just don't want to think about IT. And when you compound that with the fact that, uh, there are states where you just have a portion like rice, like the huge liberal states you're going to go, you can have all the abortions you want.

So what demo are we really talking about now? It's like I think we're talking about this very small demographic of women who not only it's like it's now, it's like it's college educated White women who not only want abortions in their state but the freedom to in every state and that's just like that's not an important like in terms electorally, that's not an important demographic. It's a very small demographic that that didn't certainly in this election did not matter.

Yeah they didn't they in shine and like ten more states on on this election. So at the state, well, IT does lose a lot of the time other than maybe florida this this selection cycle. But that that people I think seem to be OK with being at the state level because is generally if there is any chance of expanding IT IT wins and if you're trying to restricted to losses.

So it's a pretty it's Better. This is I think so many people thought that I would be losing at the federal level in such a powerful message because IT loses for republicans everytime, everywhere. They they basically hadn't won anything sense. Robi weight was overturned.

Yeah I mean, I think for sure if if you're trying to do like A A total ban, that's you're going to it's it's a loser.

And I just I was going to say that um I would love to see like a state state breakdown of the the woman who voted for komala and whose primary concern was the abortion because my my theory there would be that most of them live in states where a portion is like like they have that the most permissible abortion laws. I don't have anybody seen anything to the contrary um but I have the feeling that I was mostly liberal women and liberal states voting a one along the island.

Let's talk about I mean, this is one of this is our polymer keys like me. Thank you. Policy market for giving us money and supporting the work, the valuable, incredible work that we mean of taste do here for you, empire wars.

But this is a special polar market segment. We had, I think, one more like this recently in Polly market. IT just been you know a big part of the election and we were going to talk about IT regardless. And we have to talk about IT regardless because we really saw um this interesting set parallel to the election.

You have this other contest between ways of learning about what was happening in the election and there was the polling of at all which tended to have things a coin toss or the commute a few times they drop but camera at the end IT was leading club ah and you had the bedding markets, which really split about a month ago and never turned back IT was just a trump train all the way until the night of and then IT was a jump from you know sixty nine percent to seventy five here we are today, uh in the lead up to the election. Public market garner significant attention as Donald mps odds surged, some democrats left that republican donors were manipulating the market, a topic our guest, john cook, in address in the previous episode. IT was later revealed that a french trader known as theo was behind substantial project bets on Polly market.

Theo employed unconventional polling methods we learned recently, such as asking individuals who they believe their neighbors would vote for. And as election results began to come in, Polly markets odds for trump increased rapidly, outpacing traditional media on state by state reporting. In the end, the final electoral map mired Polly markets predictions from october twenty fifth, highlighting the platforms accuracy and forecasting the election outcome.

IT was really a total Victory for them, like I thought, I really thought. And colleagues are so famous. One is also um invested in Polly market, which we've talked about here.

We talked about IT last week because um this is how people say that Peter tear is secretly pulling the strings behind everything and this is like a long, convoluted chain of people that get back to shame who is still in charge of this company. But I talk to them about this and I said, you know, IT seems this is pretty. If he doesn't play out like you say, IT is IT seems pretty bad.

You, I myself would feel confused about IT, and I would have to do some introspection here. There have been a couple things on the Marks that have confused me, and this would be a big one because IT was such a sharp divide. But in the end I was made silvers. I ran, I think he said I ran eighty thousand simulations and forty thousand, twelve of them or something lean cella. Um he was the one who had a really a pretty I think I can I like nate feel bad form I think had a pretty rough night on tuesday IT .

was IT was a Victory for polar market and he loves .

to give a IT with thousand twelve pull up that was correct first of all. So keh, there's no way he actually took up on the bed chef is saying, you know keep says florida is going to be one by, I think ten to twelve points but minimum eight and by trump and night is just, you know, you're having gas. He's reading the polls.

He's reading constant polls. You don't know what you're talking about. I thought I thought nit was correct. I thought, yeah, keep his his doesn't notice talking about nate.

I think it's really misunderstood by a lot of people who think god predicted hill, reverse trump, you, whatever. He's really smart guy. He's a really principle guy.

He's a really sober guy. And I was wrong. I was wrong and keep was right and I know didn't make the Better because. This is not the kind of I don't think, I just don't think he did correct me from wrong.

You know, if anyone knows that, i'm happy to issue a correction here, but I doubt he made the bed he should have, though and he was a huge, huge Victory for that guy. And again, yeah bad. I for me.

one thing I struggle with with prediction markets that i've been thinking about a lot since election is like of what value I mean, the is like, what are we supposed to do with the prediction market when let's save four weeks before the election, right? Because there's a time based component where it's like prediction markets don't aren't actually that they're not going to predict something.

There's predict what would happen given all the current information and if you like, so that there's a huge function of time here that we never talk about. And so like when you it's almost like polymer in market every single time is going to resolve to is going to resolve to the right outcome because that is not predicting an outcome, is just people placing Better and outcome, right? So um that's something i've been sort of pretty sort of confused by with prime market.

Is like when should I take the prediction most seriously, right? Because there could be an lea late last minute surprise that completely changes everybody's feelings about what's going to happen, even those in the market, and that changes everything. So um that's just like one of these things like I just like kind of don't understand and if you have any thoughts on that.

But I think the weird is going to learn even there is still as a chance that IT was a flu or something in. I just I don't think so. I think it's just a new part of the information ecosystem. And we have to run IT a bunch times. Yes, we have to just keep looking at IT and and keep seeing where where is right and where is wrong and assessing why we think it's wrong.

Um the thing that we know for sure has been wrong in our handful of times now are the polls and uh and the polls that are probably a part of the problem there is just you know the polls that are amplified but that's where I turned to someone like name who really does do the work. And um and still, I don't think these results were just not reflected in the polling data. They were they weren't not not not something like this um and .

they were categorical useless the forty thousand the eighty thousand simulations that was a category useless observation I thought and and so I I just like what what do we do with this like I understand I like me to I don't know him personally, but I have a lot of respect for him, but I just couldn't make up her down or what what he was saying was like OK wall, if this is what your model telling us then and and this was the outcome, right? Like a soft blow out, what is the value of the model? Yeah I I also thought underlying data.

I see those polls become the backbone of the analysis spread through the press. What's left to the maintaining press? You have like the new york times daily on the morning of the election saying, well, I could be a blow out for trump o or for commoner or IT could be close um you have like truly they they hit all of them in the podcast IT was crazy.

And like, why would you even publish this? This is bizarre. You could also not make a prediction.

I didn't make a prediction. I don't know what the fuck gna happen. Democracy is chaos.

Anything could happen. I ve had no idea. I went in like, let's see what's going to happen um but they get Carries. Wish you're predicting a blow out for cobol uh and in pivoting pretty quickly and like this takes us to our media meltdown segment of the of the podcast.

I think there's there's an interpretation here um of the the emb in the new year times continue to do continue to double down on the election outcome that everybody america's racist and that we all knowing we voted in a fascist and all that where they're just saving face now and they're going to quietly change their positions over time. And i'm hoping that's what IT is. And also a lot of them are gonna fired. I think like like a lot like what's .

the joy and I think I was watching her. So we're now entering our media, and the media melt IT down. Looks to be short.

There was a bit of a meltdown. Not everybody melted down. I think there were some surprise out there.

I saw a lot of interesting stuff. There were people like Thomas. I saw lots of interesting people being thought ful, as some do after election.

I was surprised by the york times, which seemed to become much darker than they were before the election. A tuesday morning was one story just a sort of muted. I was, I file myself going to the times a lot this election, looking just for just raw facts.

I would always IT was one of my still is in my cycle of new sources. It's like x it's, uh, it's the york times. It's judge report.

It's, uh, washington imposed al check if I really just want to be annoyed about something and then threats if I really wants to laugh at something and then usually just what people are setting me in our slack channel. But wednesday morning, IT was, you know, an authoritarian is rising and, uh, the darkness is to sands. And these are really scary pictures. And headline after headline after headline, I was surprised by that and less surprised by the joy and reading, which branded, if you want to describe what what SHE was talking about.

I think, I think the general theme was, caller did nothing wrong, and but, but amErica did.

And this will be the second opportunity that White women in this country have to change the way that they interact with the patriarch. God less stand what was tried to have that conversation. What is the mean? No, it's not the world. It's.

it's yeah it's who are races are race .

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and joe garborg that they actually had a clip of viral um where they were both blaming black men and latino man for being my sageness racist um against carmilla and that's why they didn't um they didn't they didn't towing her away so there's a lot of that I I just .

say really, really cRicky too. Democrats need do you even make sure and they need to be honest and they need to say, yes, there is there is method y but it's not just masjid I from White men, 嗯， it's massage ini from ispa ic men, it's mesage ity from black men, things we've all ve been talking about who do not want a woman letting them just silly. Because we saw how biden was doing, which was incredibly poorly.

That's the reason that he dropped out of the IT was like, yes, he has dementia but IT was the fact americans reacted to the dimensions. They were like we're not we're not doing this. IT was totally a business more. And um I don't know. It's it's going to keep talking about how are we still talking about this specific kind of discs in twenty four?

Again, it's probably hopefully saving face. And the more extreme people are going to get kick, are they going to kick out of the newsrooms?

I I don't know. It's weird. I would think that IT wouldn't be as bad, but then i've been looking at facebook because i'm addicted how unhinged everybody is right now. And IT is just the things people are saying.

And there, you know, women are like, go off your birth control, delete your apps, start paying for tamp ons and cash so that the government doesn't know when you're bleeding you. We can share, you know, diva cups and like, I am mean, truly. And I was asking my friends today, i'm like, it's what's really fascinating to me is like the different psychology of liping.

Like the living on the left is very like republicans aren't stopping in their cars and crying. They're more like, get your guns are coming for your guns know, like, could start up on your food supply and stop the steel was, I was trying to think during twenty twenty, what I was seen from the right wing, you know, the equivalent, and it's just so different on the left. It's just like unhit shaving their heads.

This is not on the media level, but just on the on the individual level. And that is IT like these historian ics. And even at the view they were crazy due is IT just we live in a time where hyperbaric and histrionics get you a lot of attention, or do they actually believe this? Because if you believe trump is literally the next hitler, then this reaction is somewhat appropriate.

I don't know why you would have to film yourself doing IT, but that's the appropriate reaction for believing this to be true. Or is IT just like histrionics for engagement? I don't know.

Guys, i'd had an interesting point where because you have to be loud enough to penetrate the noise, uh, or to rise above the noise, that I always exist online, know. So you have to take a that level.

Have you been following Justine statements?

Feet and x, no.

tell me, oh my god, it's my favorite thing online right now. So he is basically critically, all of these is from the perspective of a filmmaker like he is like, bad lighting, you should shoot this way in the car is an overuse location. IT is just the best thing online right now is just involvement taking chill, quote, tweet lives of tiktok who has got all these videos that they're aggregating, obviously, and will just be like it's so brilliant. She's just looking at very rationally. Like here is what I would do if I was conferring this.

I saw that one of the woman shaving her head. And IT reminded me of that seen in V, V. data.

And I thought you guys live in a parallel dimension, unless it's just this, you, this internet thing. But then I saw another when they did not feel like internet performance. Me, that was much more frightening, which was a mom talking to .

her kids up.

That was fucking dark. Man.

I think I.

so it's a warm talking to her kids and she's breaking the news that trust one and then it's a little girl that sounds like that sounds like she's got to be like seven or eight and maybe six or seven like Young and SHE you hear her wimpy and then start hyperventilation that you hear the dad back like you breathe, it's okay.

You can breathe and the mom's coaching her through, you know, however thing's going to be fine but the mom looks terrified like she's, you know, in a movie about the the rise of hitler and they have to change their lives because of IT and I thought, like men, if your kid feels any kind, if you're seven year old daughter. Knows anything about has any kind of feeling about Donald trump whether she's fucking make amErica great again in class or um terrified that he is the fifth right that that child abuse, okay, like the kid does not, should not know anything about this and that one that is where I felt this isn't just performance because that kids not faking IT. That's a real reaction that i'm listening to and it's really disturbing .

to me yeah that's that's really unsettling I I don't think you should be I mean to make amErica great again like kids are onna pick that up from their parents at least it's positive and optimistic but you know like giving I think where the line is for me is when you're making your kid anxious and you're passing that you're projecting in your own anxiety onto your child and there is a lot of this in the culture.

So as someone who is a new mom, we were watching inside out two. And then the thirteen year old girl has a panic attack and were like, nope, nope. Turn IT off. Like, why is a thirteen year old having this like insane panic attack? But but there's so much of this just in the culture. And and you thought with the colleges where they were like, you know, you guys can have a day whatever take whatever time you need there and telling the students that instead of being resilient and just go to school, that IT was OK if they skip class and had some kind of melt, melt down in their crysis .

at that is for sure. The other big thing here that happening is there is a premium, like a kind of cultural premium, placed on displays of anxiety talking about um you know sickness is that you are experiencing your conditions that you have um there is this, I don't know how to to even describe IT really. I just know that you get something out of IT culturally by going through something and revealing that to people, you can feel that online. And you felt IT throughout all the the the, the social sort of revolutionary stuff we have seen over the last five years. But you also see IT in social circles, you know, among your friends, and things like .

this is people talking about good, strange that is, that is a counter trend to summer are breaking for trump by thirty points.

I man is man. He was a just .

man .

as a generation. They broke a lot less. And I I don't believe that women voted for trump.

I think they voted for Harris. It's only the other boys who voted for trump. Just buy a lot.

But more summer women than they thought voted for trump. I think there were more sumer women than they expected voted because there were a lot of women who were Young summer who were protruding p too. So I think they were more than they thought in summer.

But there the men, yeah they but there this is a again, this like crazy gender divide that occurred and in this election, although the suburban mums really came through. And we're like, no, because they care about the the social things. Yes.

you wish. Talk about that, by the way, really quick before you move on. I would love your perspective, bridget. On the sixteen, sixteen project woman, along with IT was joined. Read a lot of people we talked about before, but the sixteen project woman went viral online for.

uh, let me at women yes.

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always get .

lame voting on behalf of the ethnos ate and I was just wondering, is that yours like when you vote IT for trump was IT was IT because you were hoping for, you know, the at no .

state oh, when I was in the booth I was like for the at no state and then I A press trump no, it's this this happens of every, every election I feel like I didn't realize this the tires very online and like, well, let me guess you're onna blame White woman again it's like the rhetoric on the left around White woman is is can get very draining.

It's like and border like like genocide all sometimes and so i've kind of just learned to like brush IT off I feel like sometimes the only way to deal with that is a market. My whole thing was during the whole, like walk years or whatever we want to call them. I was like, don't give into you, just tell them they annoying.

I had a whole expression like you're not walke, you're noy IT just minimized IT by kind of mocking IT so I can take IT too seriously he goes via all the time for saying that that is there is a lot of um people who will say you are you are voting to you know key because we've internalize the patriarch and we have are invested in maintaining power when it's really like, no, I don't want my little girl to be an a song with the dude. I don't want to pay four times when I was paying for groceries, my insurance has got up. People don't know how many women are in charge of running the house in terms of finances, paying the bills like we see all of the stuff on a line byline basis, and like women are going to be mad if they can't get botox because they have to pay more for groceries.

I'm sorry, not just but but it's like to and all jokes aside, suburban women are um they are balancing a lot of things. You know I think I from I had a great conversation with mary Catherine m one of my two podcast and we were like our suburban women anna break for trump, because everyone in our circles, IT was anecdotal. But we were all in group chats, and we were, everybody was like, so and we're all going to offer job I like, we're going to do this and I every woman, I have a very politically homeless subscriber base.

Every single one of those women, I shockingly came broke for trump. And I wish these are, and there are F, K. Junior people, people who have never vote a republican. So when I started that trend, I was like, holy shit, he really might win.

You know, you might take this because in mice and agra I was like, well, maybe these are just my circles, but I think suburban women were balancing these things of, we know abortion, pro choice and all of the other stuff we've talked about. And clearly, we know which direction they voted. I don't think they were all like this is for the day yeah .

it's like they really think that like suburban women want some kind of what is anything I don't, but I I actually don't. I think they look at you guys. I think they look at you guys and I think I can bully them.

I can bully them into voting the way that I want them to. And they can do that with the consumer White. They're outside of one of the front house doing the trump dance right now, like there's no path. There is no path. It's like they gotta to you.

Part of part of my most, a part of the reason I put that video out before the election of why I voted for trump was because my most sexy, but scientifically backed physic, is that women do need more social permission to do something that isn't popular. This goes back to just our safety and our DNA. It's very scary to be outside of a tribe for men and women, particularly for women.

You're not protected. You're not. It's very dangerous. It's it's in our life saving um response that we have. So and women, as we've seen by many of these contains in the past, they just generally tend to do things and social circles and and you know, add each other on or like all a lot of the things that are for good and for bad. And I do. I I think women in those group chats and put in having people like um hair hang came out and had said he was voting for traun. I think they even men reached out to me and said, oh I your video on I was on the fan and I kind of helped just go okay, this isn't, you know, it's not like the death of everything if I do this and yes, women, I think women just there was like the suburban mom, you know, a secret vote that I think was happening in the group chat and and I was wondering for was I think I think IT came to bear out .

we saw a piece of this in tech obviously um in a huge way with just you have people like, you know David, it's x coming out very strongly obviously Peter started IT but he was demonized first. Now we have years of anybody's built up. David sax comes out of different people on the all in podcasts who come out other huge or or just like reasonably popular VC come out in support of this.

And IT was like a snowball effect. And once there was social, like he said, permission to go IT was way, way, way more people. I do. I want IT let's talk about your video. So that's interesting that I you realize that that was the reason that you did IT.

I think that's really, uh, that's really interesting where you surprised I was surprised to see how much push back you got, where you surprised you, how much push back you got from really this contention of like centers liberty an e had self proclaimed hederae x literally self proclaimed hederae X H heard's thinkers. So imagine like sort of maybe the I D W A Jason crowd, people who work in institutions like the atlantic, for example, but but want to seem free thinking. And they were looking out at you for this. What was up with that?

I mean, the idea I did the video for a lot of reasons, one was I had been very public about I my being on the fan, and then I would have felt shady to just keep IT to myself or I don't know if. And my whole thing is just being honest with my with everyone, but my audience in particular, and I expected blow back. There is a lot of people in that faction.

I've I see what they say about me. I've seen that they're been waiting to call me a female dave rubin. And they have been waiting for this moment for, you know, sixty eight years, where they can just say, huh, we got a because I, because I I have slowly, as they would say, and moving into the right, I think that had becoming a mom radicalize me in ways that i've explained in my video, where I had a child.

And suddenly I couldn't be like a jane or just like sitting on the sidelines being like, you guys don't have to care so much. That sucks. I am my gosh IT.

Now I ve got to like care about who's on the school board and whether like the monastery teacher has pronounce in their bio. Okay, I guess i've got a fight and that was something new. So these things are.

And just having people tell me that what wasn't happening wasn't happening when I first got out in the crossfire of the culture war is knowing nothing, being wages, trying to be A. And got sober and twenty thirteen stumbled into IT in twenty fifteen. And then slowly and twenty sixteen start to pushing back very early against the insanity on the left, but was still being a playboy.

I heard from the right all the time about what how feminism destroyed america. And I was the reason that this country was collapsing and accept us. I was like, I don't trust you guys either and they open their time up much more over the years. But someone inside of me is not what your saying is like, why does everyone think i'm on the right? They said it's not we are saying it's what you're not saying.

And I think about that a what because that is audience capture because I started saying when I would pause to say something and found myself um hesitating I would be like, oh, this is gna get me kicked out of my left wing circle of friends and then I just started my whole montoro twitter is fucked send tweet like there's not very clearly there's not much of a pause and or now x and then I feel like if there's something that I felt like would alienate my new audience and I wasn't gonna send IT or say IT i'm falling pray to the same thing and it's very hard you have to kind of I feel like my audience now has a pretty high immune system to me being not really being sure where i'm going to fall. Even just in a video I did yesterday, I was like, guys, i'm not mega. I'm not gonna like we started dump to fire in the in the trump p years making fund of trump.

We are going to continue to do that because it's all areas. But well, it's it's like EQ opportunity. So I was expecting this from that heterodox community. I I think some of their criticisms aren't entirely wrong, but I do I try to see like the good faith people, but not all of them are really Operating in good faith that that's when they will lose me.

IT was the read the is your name Cathy or something? I think she's like ukrainian. Maybe what is your name? Yeah that one one after you and IT seems personal to me. Uh.

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And then I was on the heels of the atlantic piece by Thomas chat in whatever um and that piece was wild to me to have a piece the piece was, uh, the problem with heterodox voting for truck da dox people voting for tromp IT was like, how could this be happening with the whole peace on sort of expLoring that? And I just think if you are self proclaimed heterodox thinker and you have a problem with someone not voting for the democrat, you have to do some soul searching, like you have to look in the mirror and ask yourself many things.

I think the first one is like, why am I publicly calling myself? Had dox thinker have money? Been saying necessarily because you're wrong, but also, it's very easy, I think, to say that, to call yourself, yeah, I didn't .

even know if that word met until like two .

years ago saturday. And it's like if you if you have a header dox a heterodox platform, you're not fucking head or dogs. Like what are we to you're not the contrarian that you think you are. You are just in the machine and you want to be liked and it's like, you know, you are just in atlantic writer voting democrat who happens to also agree that children shouldn't be chemically castrated.

Well, guess what, you don't get an a trophy for that position that is just like a Normal but you're not like a brave edge contrarian thinker because you think we should not be chemically cast rating children. That's not enough for me. You have to be open to to people expLoring different ideas and I think that bridges what you did. It's hard to go out publicly and um brand yourself with a candidate and I think that was cool edit and I think like fuck them for going after .

you for you for something I feel like a honest I didn't vote for anybody and felt good because now I can I that was why I voted for him. I felt so much cognitive dissidence between, I want him to win, but I can vote for him. So I had to really interrogate that.

Well, why can I vote for him? As I cared a lot of people who square that they wanted him to when, but they could involve for him, I couldn't square IT. I was like, just pull the lever and then owe IT.

And now I have to own on that vote. And I can I don't know. I just felt IT actually was much easier than I thought.

You know, it's for all of the the I don't know that like heterodox that's very strange to because that that kind of smug disappointment only works in one direction like why should I be disappointed in you for voting for coma? right? That is like a very strange mentality where IT only comes in one direction .

yeah what does he even believe? How is as a self proclaimed thinker of any kind, can can can you tolerate someone without positions? That's crazy.

And um I I think they i've noticed when they make these arguments, they tend to fall down on the side of like this is an existent al election because donal trump try to do a cup or something and I just don't believe that sorry, I just I just I don't think that's what happened. And I don't think IT was that. I I think that IT was a riot.

I think riot ts are bad. I think he was a battle on about the entire thing and has made like a lot of mistakes in the things that he said. But I do not believe that this is a man who is actually trying to seize control of the country in some kind of dictatorship.

And when you pull the average american who who has vowed that story, who was a trump supporter, they're not a trump supporter because they think he's going to be addicted. They are trump supporter because they know that he's not. And that's just something that people who hate him say and and they really just want a border and they really just want crime to be illegal again, and they really just can't stand the workshop.

And like the fact that racism became so Normalized over the last handful of years, like that's the kind of self they're voting on, and I think is really intellectual, dishonest of the other. I think it's fine to not vote for trump, but think it's fine to hate truth. I understand, I understand where they're coming from.

I do understand that. I understand even voting for commoner. What I do not understand is for them to go and try and demonize people who disagree with them in this way, especially coming from the position of these free thinkers. And that also what activates me. I think on the taxi when you have like the node cosla or paul gram um these kinds of people who are they're not they're not satisfied read read hofman in another one, people who are not satisfied in just um disagree eed with you publicly or voting for commuter and and giving money to camila. They've done all of those things, but they want to go and say they take a step further than they say, you know, you're a bad person for doing this.

This is immoral and that this kind of shaming tactic where you can feel someone trying to control the over twin window, they're reaching for IT and they're trying to tighten their grip around IT so they don't even have to make an argument in favor of their candidate. You socially are not permitted to disagree with them. And that's the kind of thing that I resist all the time because that's the kind of thing that fucked us in twenty.

That is the thing all throughout covered. That is the thing that crippled our country and that scarred me, scarred maybe the wrong word. I learned a lesson that I will never forget, and I will never, ever, ever, ever back down on those things ever again. It's just way too important.

I think I learned that lesson to and I think a lot of americans did though that's why you saw that their immunity was much higher to being shamed for this kind of vote. Then I was in twenty, twenty even mean how I want to see the numbers of how many first time trump voters there were from people who either never voted for him or vote. I am curious about those numbers when it's all tell IT up the .

righteousness, like the moral righteousness aspect of shaming people in the voting. Is is that like a novel that's like a relatively recent thing in politics, right? Like or I mean one is one of that because like in in the seventies is why I think identity politics really got going in the in the united states without the weather on around and black brothers s and all that um but I don't know that you saw that um you know reflecting on people's uh their voting choices like that wasn't part of the conversation um and I was just like purely like the vote based on your own interests access.

And I wonder I guess my question is like, is that is that novel now? And if so, I think that would be a good sign because IT seems like it's on its way out. I think I think maybe amErica kind of woke up to that.

no. And so just like, no like we're not being browed beaten into voting for an abstract concept that that the left essentially wants us to vote for. Russia is going to vote for the things .

that that we want to happen.

I think it's wish for thinking it's not on its way out. And that's because um you know someone a power bottom dad on twitter is a great account power bottom dads said, trump just won the election, which means and everyone seems to agree and I still feel scared to post about my support for trump on twitter and that's because and I committed and I said that's because you're correctly intuitive, the shape of power in amErica on power in amErica is basically unelected.

It's entirely, almost entirely democrats IT occupies like every sound of power like we're talking biocon tic power. We're talking the power in hollywood. We're talking the power in the press though, that's shifting out with the alternative media ecosystem.

We were talking to power all throughout tech until recently. And now I think it's really just techy leadership that's not on outside of things um but all throughout business and money banking. These are places that are overwhelmingly democrats.

And so even if it's not you your elected official is uh a republican, you feel social pressure to if you are a republican or you're going to vote for a republican to at least not talk about IT and I think that will persist for as long as um democrat have so much power in the country, all these other you know seats of power that's just us that is our that's evolution. That is us um knowing how to survive in a group is just by being aware of who's in charge and you feel IT. Like like the hairs raising on the back of your neck.

Like you know when when your side is not in power. And that's why I find so many of these conversations about know who is empower and who's not. And people like, I was nervous to say that I didn't vote for trump like, no, you fucking weren't because we all know like we all know what the correct vote was and what the bad vote was and is just very a frustrating to me to have to pretend otherwise.

It's crazy. How do you like actual critical post moderns you see from the left, rather than shaming trump supporters or blaming all White women? Like one of the few that I did see was bernie Sanders.

And that makes sense that he would be the one calling them out, because where democrats clearly lost the most as where bernie was the strongest when he ran. It's like he thrived in the joe rogan podcast environment like he was strong with linos. He had A A group called bernie brows because he was so strong with the Young man like yeah and you know other democrats, like gave him ship for promoting his rogan enorme men in the past. But like of democrat want they .

call IT was.

yes, yes, yes, yes. And if they called him.

not see a Jason for going on the podcast at the time.

insane yeah yeah. And if democrats wanted to like actually learn from the landslide, they would listen more to the candidate who thrived on rogan um you know rather than listen to the cable TV talking heads who blamed IT all on racism yeah .

I I do think elan gave a lot of permission to and and like those Young genius people don't realize I have nephews at age they grew up with all this stuff in high school like they were the generation that had all of the like the tone policing and thought policing and then the world ism really and they were so and being told that they were evil and raise us because of the way that they were born. And these guys have definitely reactive tude.

It's kind of made the maga movement the counter culture because it's like the it's like the punch c for these guys. And I think they are all like they're really into cyp, do they? They grow up online and they really look up to guys like elon. So elon coming out in in support of um trump for that Younger generation. You know older people might have kind of benli, uh whatever, and they people have these all these opinions but the Younger guys were like this is that he's like their .

hero that is that resonance with me. I i've always had the the summer male vote swing so far to the right um was completely unsurprising for me because i've always had this model based on my own experiences growing up. Like when I grew up, the basically like the sort of Christian event alco right was the scary cultural force and and they always kind of looming ing threatened to take over and somewhere another politically and culturally.

And um I remember you know in high school thinking like like understanding their positions and thinking like these guys are fucked in lame, like they're just totally lame british people and I want to do something to offend them like that was my instinct, right? Like I want to just I I want to buck that authority and um the the left looks exactly like that, exactly like that. And I think as a Young boy, twelve twelve of sixteen years old, all you want to do is show that type of um person that like their like faking gay rider or something like that you know do .

you want to shock that person .

because there's so british there's so closed off and yeah really resonate with that. You said it's .

it's a powerful forest, the teenage boy, but went awoken and IT doesn't doesn't tend to involve itself directly in politics. But when woke and IT IT is mighty as we are now learning.

The last bit here I want to to to touch on pretty briefly was have covered the election in the insane ounce of IT, the cultural piece of IT ah how would happen what we think was happening? I guess it's like what what comes next out of this? You have handful people who are already saying they think trump is going to this is our last election and democracy over is in the thoracic an and that's that I mean, that's silly. Do we know that that's not true? Unless, unless and then oops, in my bed, I will come back and apologize if but here's the .

thing though, mike, I will say the people who stood up against all the stuff, like the all long against the over region and covet and vx Mandate, these people who have suddenly come right and they voted for trump. I believe we're still the same people who are gonna stand up if webs were wrong and he's, you know, literally hitler like we're not it's certainly not going to be the people that have been quietly just going along the whole time.

I don't trust them to stand up to anything. So I at least trust that the weird realignment coalition of people and thinkers, they are the people who have been pushing back against all of this stuff all along. I agree.

Yeah I think what is the word in the um there's the personality quality that means that you don't get along with people disagreeable. It's a disagreeable group and that is IT is like a kind of inoculation against really crazy shit um encounter but yeah but .

it's like what .

is what is next is is is R F K going to be making french fried is great again with beef tao uh is elan's doge a real thing? High speed rail, uh, with beautiful bark carts cutting through the rockies and getting me from sf in new york in the night, I want to hold my breath. Will the moon finally be a state? Um I don't know questions for you guys.

And then I I will just start though with as of a today is we record on thursday, so this comes out on friday. So as of thursday, I did see trump um making some statements on some executive orders that he plans to make. And so before going to to you you know last minute predictions or last predictions rightly, what did you what did you read about all of the immigration one is is he promising now?

Yeah he's also making some um like and how impossible of administration appointments. Um one of them I saw was a popular like regenerate agriculture guy who is getting an appointment to the U S D A um which i'm sure will make that almost very happy which is so funny by the way that that's like one of his voting blocks now but um and he's also been announcing some proposed executive orders. He put out a video saying that on day one he's going to end birthright citizenship in amErica um saying that the future children of illegal aliens will no longer automatically receive U S.

Citizenship um in in a separate video he said he'll sign in order ceasing gender firming care for minor so um he said there I will sign a new executive order instructing every federal agency to seize all programs that promote the concept of sex and gender transition at any age so IT seems to be sort of like a start contrast from the first trumped administration, which reportedly was like a lot of scrambling and not really having a set agenda this time. IT seems that he clearly has a plan in place to, like, enact his agenda on date. One.

well, you see that, I mean, I I saw the immigration thing already. People are freaking out about IT, of course, because they freaking out about everything that he does. Uh, this is a very popular position.

IT is a kind of a common position. Do you don't get birthright citizenship in, like all throughout the old world? This is a new world, north america, south amErica thing.

And IT makes sense because you had to populate these kind, especially america. You to populate canada, to populate the country, the country and citizenship just worked differently. But you don't have this in europe, you don't anywhere in asia. You don't have this in most of the african countries.

Um but on the on the fact that he's and maybe you just can disagree on on that position whenever I am very much in favor, uh I think that you do not just automatic citizenship because you are born here otherwise there are obvious vous incentives which he is trying to kill was like why wouldn't you just come here and have a kid who can then have citizenship um but citizenship uh immigration certainly was one of the the main reasons that he was elected in the other one. I think you saw this in places like Virginia, and I think he was loud county, where you are this huge swing away from the democrats, where this is a democrat strong hold. I think the demarcate might have actually taken IT but IT was really close and had to do with this topic specifically. This is really an important topic to parents um across the countries so you can be mad about IT, you could be bad of an immigration, but the overwhelming majority of americans are on the same page here uh and and I think that he's gna basically just be doing stuff like that, stuff that most people actually agree with even if it's not, I don't know, popular um on threads that .

you want threads.

you to check threads once in a while.

I am I am fascinated with the whole .

strike that's just I was calling at the .

home strike. But yeah, I think it's the former.

They are not in on where to be like because I can have an abortion about having sex. It's like that's what the Christians want you to do. You know that right? Like they got you. They got you, girl, they won.

That's so much. Everyone on the right is like, oh good we managed to convince them to not have like a promise sex to what a win .

for um what do you haven't? I mean, what are you do you think of? Do you think the whole strike grows? Do you think IT becomes the national emergency?

Like move for attention. ary. There was a really funny video going around and I was like, the norroway sweet and I was like, ladies, welcome you can go to these countries where there is a twelve to have a twelve week abortion banners .

of the yes yeah it's we have the most permissive abortion laws I think maybe can but it's like, yeah like they all have they have the exact permit I think makes sense. Like it's like it's it's it's like it's a reasonable number. And then after that numbers, it's if it's if the mom's life is in danger, that's really sadden.

We should allow IT there as well. And that seems good. That seems reasonable. That seems fine. The music that was a you to play that clip if you can find IT.

How you if we go down. Together, someone said he was like the the top so far for crche post election content.

Oh, really.

but I don't know about that. Yeah, the woman talking to her kids was pretty wild. The hair cutting one was pretty wild.

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the last those predictions for the way things are going to play out over the next couple months.

I'm looking I don't know. I have to try and to be humble. I definitely feel that urge to you know like get drunk on liberal tears.

I don't it's not great. It's not great. It's not it's a IT feels like a character effect. I do think you have to like the urge to kind of dung in your opponents is not it's not good sportsmanship even though it's funny.

So I hope that and I do try to remember that a lot of these people are really suffering and and the democracy like pre on a vulnerable population of Young people, and there they are psychologically not doing well. So I I predict a lot more historian ics online. I don't know though there's no are there any protests like you know remember twenty sixteen with I said, yeah I saw .

when I was just telling this to the guys before you hoped on a IT was in chicago and IT felt so lack later he felt like they were living the lap of a twenty twenty protest and I just I don't think they have IT in them for another hashtag resist moment I think that they're tired. They want to move on. I wash in L A.

Um i'm for the election party and ah so that night I was at a restaurant and before I want to the party and nobody fucking cares, nobody was talking about IT, everybody was laughing and drinking and no one, I was checking my phone relentlessly to see what was happening. No one had their phone. Now he was just peerless less.

The next morning after the election, I went to breakfast the same. No one cared. Everyone was just going about their day. I I think um I think that's what also the press was most nervous about what they know that this is going to to be very different than twenty sixteen where there were so much energy behind stopping anything from happening.

Now trump is not clueless and the average american, if not basically on board with motifs platform positions um just doesn't care anymore. And once to stop thinking about IT, I think that he'll probably just be effective and know when it'll ll be fine. But also I predict election would be boring um before the first assiniboin mpt. So I mean, i've been wrong before what you saying I another .

weird phenomenon and i'm interested to hear from your listeners are from you guys. A lot of people like liberal secretly have reached to me and like, i'm gladding one, even people voted for because they felt they had to. This is a very strange, three days later, phenomenon that i've been experiencing from people who are didn't vote at all or didn't vote for him have been like, i'm gladding one.

So I went, I went golfing with my body, a who's from vegas. And I again, I live in L. A.

And I was on over the weekend before the election, he wore a mugham. wow. And us like, okay, because you like that.

This is a really popular off, of course, some of people around you know you you are always talking to people because like you might be behind you in front of, you know, golf and IT was like, totally feel like we were talking. Every everybody was great. You know, nobody batted an I ash, as far as I could see. Yes, and there's very conspuez the hat. And so I don't know.

I know a guy, a friend, mine went out in new york with with with a mega hat and same thing had like nothing. No one gave him any problems at all and actually he got a lot of support like throughout the street from like like all kinds of people. Um I think that is you can just look at the election map and probably what's happening is is like, I mean trump one for a reason and and I don't know yeah I don't see I don't see the protest happening I think although I mean, again, no blue .

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starbursts. Really last thoughts on on with the summer perspective. What do you think that it's IT stays strong? Is is here to stay? And do they swing back? Do they fade away or they are they over IT, which is like a one time thing.

what's going on there. But I think continue the podcast strategy and it's only to going to continue. I think brynn was right, like Young people always want to rebel against their parents and their parents have been, you know, the school army people on twitter telling you what you can say. So I think as long as that continues, the summer to the right trend is also gonna. Ue um british.

i'm going to give you the last word as our guest. Uh, anything I don't know what what do you think about IT could be anything that reaction to your to your coming out video reaction to the election prediction for the future.

I'm really worried about the Young woman like that. I I as much as it's funny to watch all these videos, my big take away from this as someone who was a Young woman in the chinese and team, as I, I want to find a way to reach them and and try and deprogram them a little bit from a lot of the fear mongers and give them some psychological resilience and you know I feel like this generation of women they feel very lost and unhinged me and it's um and nobody seems interested and help you know it's easy for this was my kind of issue with the right wing when I said they have a woman, a Young woman problem because it's like we and I guess I can include myself in that now, which is weird.

There's like this dunking on them isn't going to bring them over, you know. It's it's like it's like going after a woman who's an abusive of relationship are not getting out soon enough. So I do feel like part of the work that I want to do and that I hope women in this space dual is trying to reach across the air and and mentor and help some of these women so that they're not um all in psycho. Ds in five years IT seems like .

you kind of out. I mean, this is what video of strategy was. I think that you just need social protection in some way you got and you're doing that.

I think it's really cool. I think actually smart. I've never thought about IT from that position before. Um and I would love to live in the world where the women of this country are slightly less crazy.

I ouldn't say most honestly and I said like like some of that was based people I know are like the women in my life, like there's the reason I am, the way that I am is like my mother, my sister, like they're the ones who did this to me. So, you know, there are out there is just like probably the crazy st ones get the most attention um and for reasons I don't understand. Bridget, thank you for coming on the pod.

You are the best. Thank you for also her red talk about but one of these days, thank you for help me. He was awesome. Uh, you guys much n have a great one. Go touch grass this weekend and see here next week.