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WTH Is Happening With The Drones, Elizabeth Warren Goes After Trump & Elon, Canada Is Falling Apart

2024/12/20
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Mike Solana:就新泽西州上空出现的不明飞行物事件,他认为经过调查后,所有线索都指向了无事发生。他同时批评了卡玛拉·哈里斯的政治生涯,认为她应该结束政治生涯。他还表达了对美国政治中腐败和无能的担忧,认为伊丽莎白·沃伦不具备要求他人问责的资格,因为她自己也存在腐败问题。他更关心政府的有效运作,而不是政府官员的道德问题。他认为政府关门事件不会导致政府支出减少,并且是政府财政赤字增加的原因之一。他还认为应该提高政府官员的薪水,以吸引更多优秀人才,但是不应该提高那些导致财政赤字增加的官员的薪水。他建议只提高新任政府官员的薪水,而不是现任官员的薪水。他还认为美国政府的资金浪费严重,拨款过程混乱。 Brandon Gorrell:就新泽西州上空出现的不明飞行物事件,他认为事件在推特上被过度放大,引发了不必要的恐慌。他提出了三种解释:误判、外国入侵和博取关注。他认为大部分视频显示的是飞机,并且事件可能是为了博取关注而制造的。他还批评了加州政府聘请了一位“肥胖积极性”专家作为顾问,认为这是一种浪费资金的行为。他还认为应该提高政府官员的薪水,但不应该提高那些导致财政赤字增加的官员的薪水。 Riley Nork:他认为解放加拿大指日可待。 Kevin Chaiken:就新泽西州上空不明飞行物事件,他认为各方说法不一,信息混乱,美国政府的应对令人担忧,信息不透明加剧了民众的恐慌。他还建议政府官员应该像创业公司员工一样,通过股权激励来提高其效率,并且应该提前公开其股票交易信息,以避免内幕交易。他还建议政府官员应该将大部分薪水投资于指数基金。 Alastair John Pitts:就加拿大政治局势,他认为特鲁多政府目前状况不佳,多名高级官员辞职,新冠疫情封锁和卡车司机抗议是特鲁多政府声誉下降的催化剂。他还认为医疗保健是加拿大与美国融合的主要障碍,加拿大医疗保健系统面临挑战,人口增长导致系统不堪重负。他还建议将加拿大某个省份作为试点,逐步实现与美国的融合,环境保护主义是吸引加拿大民众支持与美国融合的一个切入点,建议将艾伯塔省或不列颠哥伦比亚省作为与美国融合的试点省份。他还认为加拿大对新泽西州上空不明飞行物事件的关注度不高,他最初是在推特上看到关于新泽西州上空不明飞行物事件的报道。他还认为新泽西州上空不明飞行物事件包含多种元素,吸引了不同人群的关注,地方新闻的早期报道加剧了事件的发酵。他还认为新冠疫情的影响仍在持续,美国和加拿大合并的可能性正在增加。

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The podcast starts by discussing the mysterious drone sightings in New Jersey. Multiple theories emerge, ranging from foreign invasion to a government operation, fueled by the chaotic information ecosystem. The hosts discuss the various explanations and the difficulty in determining the truth.
  • Mysterious drone sightings in New Jersey airspace.
  • Multiple theories circulating, including foreign invasion, government operation, and missing radioactive material.
  • Chaotic information ecosystem hindering truth-finding.

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What the hell is happening in new jersey, particularly its air space?

My position is not that nothing is happening, only that every single thing that I look into .

its nothing happened. Things aren't looking so great for just intrude administration right now. Alter.

we are so close to free ing you, man, it's a matter of time.

Elisabeth warn, um cried a trail of tears this week about the close relationship between ella musk dolen trun.

Don't be governor. You did IT like you, right? Good job like you were the vice president right now. Go a home. We're done here.

What's up, guys, welcome back to the pot is the last one of of the year. We're taken in a couple weeks off as just like straight off of the top. We need to do some announcements.

I'm tired. You're tired. I'm very grateful for your continued viewership, but we're taking a break. Thank you for taking ground more to come, also taking a break from the daily. We will have some pieces coming out throughout the next couple of weeks and in a couple of very cute like Christmas in year's cards.

So be sure to subscribe to part wire R S daily um if you haven't yet, just go to power war stock com and subscribe um on the news the news letter tab or probably a pop up come up if you not already subscribe more announcements we ve got polling market coming up. We going to talk about Justin trudeau. We have our special canadian correspondent in front of the pod, Alice stair, in the chat today who is also, if you follow the daily a one of our writers on the delay probably noticed at this point um m ga.

Kevin, who is now employee of paradise. So we are stacked today. When we come back, we have even more exciting news.

We just signed um a new I don't sure I give you. I don't know I should break the news just yet. Just know just know that we have something exciting happening in the very first episode we return to.

We also have pirate idol coming back when we return. IT will be four weeks, four guests, one an episode, full survey, the full episode. And I think that's enough for the up right now.

Christmas is coming. Well, I just got to cool head on. It's A A family airum. You can tell you about IT in a minute, but the point is that we're going to talk about these drones for the second weekend to row because now I have thoughts I think probably Kevin has a bunch of thoughts because he's been covering IT. Brandon is going to tell us that their plans again and I will have ourselves to .

completion tion ah we'll save that a hat discourse for later. So on the drones, it's time to revisit the story about what the hell is happening in new jersey, particularly its air space. So last week on the pod, we offered up some initial speculation about what these flying objects are.

Could be there plans the most the plains are branded on.

made a pretty passionate defense that at least based on the, at the time they were planes me.

their planes plains guess Molly .

oh seemed nevertheless convinced that they were in fact drones of some kind um in the time that has transpired since though uh the story has only picked up steam one dude who is I guess, the C E O of a drawn manufacturing company ah raised the possibility that I might be linked to missing radioactive material uh a sentiment that the mere a bevil new jersey echoed um I guess the U. S. Nuclear regulatory commission issued a warning that a shipment Carrying a piece of medical equipment for cancer screenings um had arrived at its destination, with the equipment is missing in the package damaged. Um you have reality TV tarbet nie Frankl saying that SHE totally has a friend who yeah ah this isn't the crazy as one of the crazy who takes out there so he says he has a friend who works at the pentagon who is sounding the alarm that the thrones could actually pose a real danger along with other similar uh, panic theories filling the x time line meanwhile, joby and the the man of sound clarity who we all want in charge during these uncertain times um is saying that there's nothing to various about these possible drone sightings whether he's talking the truth or not difficult to say because as sana noted in the daily, it's pretty difficult to find the signal right now uh which just how many wild theories are filling the timing and how much the american people are being left in the dark.

Let's start with bEthany I the bEthany Frankl a ball bEthany Frankl for goes of you who don't know and I assuming almost none of you know is uh she's a little star of the reale house, house of new orka, a former star. SHE was as what is the there is one famous actor. None of that famous one sort of be less actor is very popular.

Umbrella refer is like the Michael Jordan of the housewives. She's sin, sort of lost her Grace. I would say he is. She's become a kind of sad internet creature.

SHE does a lot of those, like these weird tiktok and instagram rules of people eating too close to the camera and like kind of munching in an uncomfortable way. He is just a lot of that. She's like out out.

She's like going to innovator in the space of that, to be honest. But she's been sort of like wolfing around trying to find something to do, which is odd because she's wealthy. She's the crater skinner grow margarita.

She's I think one of the most interesting reality T D stars and hollywood people in general, based on the branding of IT, all the way they should do to translate her little bit fame into actual money success. But right now she's grasping SHE found the drones thing. And that kind of is my gateway for looking at a big part of this right now.

I think there are probably is something happening. And we can all mean, I would love here each one of you are thinking about this at this point. But whatever IT is that happening has been massively amplified inside of this totally.

I would say I almost impossible to navigate information ecosystem. I've been trying to figure out what's going on for a long time, uh, for I guess like over a week now. And i'm having a hard time doing that as someone who lives online and looks at shit online for a living.

Still don't entirely know i'm getting clips from friends in new jersey of drones theyve seen uh so actual footage that is shit footage um but definitely seeing something but also people have drones so I don't IT could just be someone's drown. I don't know. Kevin, you've been following the story really closely. I want to start with you and then we can kick you back to brand in and I also aam really dying to know what the canadian take on, uh, america's wrong situation is. So Kevin, what are you doing up there?

yes. So I think to your point, you know the information ecosystem right now is sort of insane. Um I spoke to a source who works in the U A P space and the prety well connected in the intel defense areas um and SHE spoken with a lot of high level officials and they all kind of have a different story and they can't really reach any sort of consensus at all.

SHE spoke to uh former governor Andrew coro about this topic for a while and he didn't really have any idea what was going on. So hertig, and I think I agree with that, is it's pretty scary that either a they don't have any idea what these things are and are not able to defend our air space against something that might be a threat. But I think it's even scarier that they are not able to come to any sort of alignment between these agencies even just to communicate to us that they have things under control that is really frightening for the american people to have this idea that there might be something going on that they don't have under control.

And that's when you get these sort of wild theories that spent out. So like grilly mention this guy who's A C E O of sax and ero space, which is A U A V manufacturer, candis put out this video saying that IT is likely that these drones are not a of the famous sense but they're actually looking for a missing nuclear warhead from some time in the past. Um my source talk to somebody who is in the N E S T which is the nuclear emergency support team and they said that they don't use drones to do any sort of uh nuclear or like they do a radiation measuring of like different nuclear sites.

They don't use drones for that sort of thing. They use helicopters. So they they are sort of trying to debunk fat theory. But I think the fact that we have all of these different theories promote ating is just indicative of kind of the chaos a is ensuing. And I don't think IT boats well for for .

us as a people, the only people sort of boats well for our people like that. Any franco who are able to capitalizing moments like this to amplify their own message um whatever that I was like, a message is more like to attract attention, I would say.

And that's one of the really hard things in an environment and the environment like we have now where you know we spend a lot of time on x, all us do and you just I mean, you see these treats going massively viral to access credit. Uh every single of massively viral tweet i've seen on the F S. Has been community noted, which has been really helpful for me.

就 呃 sort of investigate this thing。 And also, I would say, stains in prety start contrast, i've noticed with places like threats and blue sky where let's try my thread specifically. I actually see.

And I I think I have a lot of problems with x and i've shared them throughout over the last year. So I had problems before you land over. I had problems now.

But threads I see like straight up, like totally invented news about like even rage, like moke stuff, as well as just bought like regular sub standard issue media lies um that goes wild, the viral and totally unchecked on that platform every day like much more agreeable than what i've seen on x and yeah, in this kind of social environment, people are going to say whatever going to say to gene up the story, which probably started with a handful of actual drones. We know that there are sort of spider drones that people are being captured from. We have we just had another chinese by arrested out of california.

We talked about that last week. So now there's something. But then there is this massacre, ian thing, which friend has been talking about, which I agree has probably built up around IT. But brand, you have any like have you have you rethought your your takers is still dislike planes.

you think? No, i've started um muting all the conversations because I can't talk about IT or hear about this story anymore. I think it's absolutely fucking ridiculous. So look, there's like a few explanations that, that you could explain all these videos that we're seeing on twitter. And by the way, what i'm saying right now and what i'm about to say has no reflection on how I feel about people in new jersey because I don't even know if people new jours, you are scared about this. I know that people on twitter are like amplifying this, an absolutely fine people.

Injuries are definitely nerves. I mean, I my friend who's something said is like a doctor is like a regular. This is, I would say I want of the characters are actually SHE is like A A kala Harris boating york times reading like be skeptical of the georgian type person who's like their shit that i'm looking at and i'm nervous like my little sister was nervous.

Like do should I be scared about this? What's going on up there? Like there's real anxiety, I would say.

in years right now well and .

also lasting before you go. They do know what planes look like, so Carry on enough.

I I I don't I assume that they also know what planes look like um but but I guess just high level um well, first of what i'm about to say though is not about new jersey. It's about what i'm seeing on twitter. I'm not a new jersey.

I don't know anybody from new jersey and I I live in all right now. So I I can't comment on what's happening in jersey like literally the people of new jersey. But like as far as I can see that there are a few possible explanations, right for any for these videos that we're seeing.

There's various of them, right? There's like there's like a mistake complaint helicopter satellite star, right that that's one category. Um the second category is is actual drone, right? And there's there's three explanations for an actual drone.

One is some sort of foreign invasion that I would say is pretty incomprehension. It's a very hard to explain why they would be like what they're doing by going into people's backyards and like freaking people out, right um I can just go google maps and see somebody y's backyards. So I I don't totally understand the foregone vanion, but that's one explanation.

Let's say that like that's a reasonable explanation. There's a foreign vanion of Jones, right? Number two, incomprehensible government siop or like, which wish that story has changed multiple times too, right? So let's go to the nuclear thing.

The nuclear sio thing started as the government was testing a newsletter of nuclear sniping drones for in for a scenario in which a nuk is lost, and they were engaging the public's reaction to the mass deployment of these drones. right? So that's how IT started.

Then some random medical company lost a tiny part of a pet gan machine, and they had to report IT to the E. P. A.

Because of some stupid regulation, right? This this piece of, yes, IT is radioactive, but I think it's like you get more radioactivity and like a commercial airliner flying for two hours, then you would holding this thing for a fucking year, right? So that send people into a frenzy, including the mayor r of a small town in new jersey, one of the smallest towin new jersey, as far as I can see the a GPT he gets on fox news and no, not fox news. Sorry, something called new york morning news or something like that goes for ireland and says, these drones, there's missing nuclear material, and these drones are like trying to .

sniff the mouth that I think of the resent a Scotto on IT.

I believe he's referring to this piece of a pett skii machine, which if he thinks that there is an army of drones out there searching for a tiny part, a private company lost, I mean, fair enough. whatever. All right.

So that's the other explanation is a strange government, the U. S. Government side up that or or something.

There's an Operation for the government, right? And then the third explanation is that the Operator of the drone took the video and put in on social for likes, right? And and so far i've seen i've been I haven't seen any videos that unambiguously ruled out that last possibility, right? So if that's true, if what i've seen, if if those three things are true, if those are the three explanations we have on offer, will then like I don't care how anybody feels like, maybe somebody thinks that like a strange foreign influence Operation is happening right now.

But I think my inclination is to think that the the most reasonable explanation is that somebody is doing this for likes like like this random video. Also, a lot of the videos, most of the videos don't roll out the possibility the video is not taken a new jersey. So like again, and I don't know, I just I think this is kind of like A A massive steria on your point of like you know, you have friends who have taken video of drones on the ground.

They're smart, right? Like you have on the ground people. I want to share just just something that happened a few days ago that I saw on twitter, by the way.

So this girl called Lucy bigger. She's an internet to free press SHE posted on december twelve on twitter. I saw five drones over the fair fuel connect cut transition last night at six forty five.

Let me explain, explain thread OK the next tweet, this. This is like on december twelve, the next tweet. They were flying low like a drone, but no harming sound.

My husband has A D, J. I. Drone, so I know what they sound like. They hovered in one location and also made turns one hundred and sixty five thousand views.

The first comment on this thread, by the way, is, hey, Lucy, is evan from cbs news. Can you confirm you own this video? If so, can I use IT? Then he ends up going on fox news with this story. okay. Can you guess what happened next? Like .

anyone with peace?

Five days later, Lucy gets on a car with this guy. Make west who's like this? I can optics like camera guy genius and SHE posed. I'm very humble to say that after speaking with Mickey st, I was able to track my drones for specific planes.

I had done this previously, but MIT used a more advanced software, and i'm convinced in the video, we track down the three planes that flew into the frame flame while I was filming facing northwest. There is no doubt that these were three planes. What he's exact same time, pats s, at the same time, i'm very embarrass to be so wrong.

I'm now convinced that most of what people are seeing are just regular planes. Again, I said on fox that they were flying really low and very quiet and set off my spider senses. But now I think that most of us don't really pay attention to plain that much. Okay, so this like like this is ample of like that.

Do you know like I have these these really smart friends, right? But and they saw something again, like i'm not saying I think about your friends i'm not saying when you think about new jersey, maybe they did see see something that my position is not that nothing is happening, only that every single thing that I look into its nothing happened, right? I will say one more thing about the authorities.

I don't know about your friends, Kevin, but like the the department of defense press secretary this week, this tuesday gave a press briefing about this and he said, look, there's over a million drones register in the united states on any given day. Approximate eighty five hundred of them are in flight. So the vast majority of these drones are probably going to be recreational hobby ist.

There's going to be commercial drones using things like architecture, engineering, farming or they abuse for law enforcement is a some of these drones could be up to malian activity is entirely possible. But the vast majority that's not the case in the case of drones flying near over U. S. Military installation. That in and of itself, just given the volume of drone flights we see on any given day, is not something that's new on december sixteen, the FBI out of a new ork um send out a warning saying that there has been an increase in pilots of mind aircraft being hit in the eyes with lasers because people on the ground and think they see an unmanned aircraft system.

There's also concerned about people potentially firing weapons at them, say, they say the identification often occurs when unman erie systems are mistaken for more familiar objects such as man aircraft, to improve the accuracy, prevent false sightings of a variety of tools and technical can be used to assist facial identity of these things. The basically like guys like it's probably just planes or something else, stop shooting, right? And then a few other things.

It's like two more things. Sorry that i'm like monolog ging like crazy here. But why are elected officials going on T V.

And perpetuating this hysteria? A right? And the problem here is like what happened is somebody does that right? Like a state senator, whatever, or the mayor of this little of its called the bells new jersey, they go on and IT goes viral because people automatically think that they have more information than us. Or the fact is, as they definitely don't.

A new jersey senator, andy kim, shared videos a few weeks ago of what he describes, multiple identified flying drones over his state. A few days later, he posed the thread. The first tweet is, after going out with police to observe reports of possible Jones, I was with help us, civilian pilots and others able to do deeper.

Analysts included that most of the drone sightings were most certainly planes. So I don't know, man, like again, maybe the people need just you seeing something, but i've not personally seeing anything for my seat. That firewood looking at twitter every day.

is this story something people are talking about in canada?

All or not? Really, we don't talk about much up here anyway.

But you know.

my first exposure to the story was on twitter as well, a mutual accountant. I, new and jersey was posting videos. And you know there are kind of blurry is hard to tell a kind of reminded me of those early videos that came out of china during the walk down like that very early days.

People aren't serve the lockdown videos or were real or the quarantining videos were real. Um but you know in situations like this where you're not sure and you really you need trusted high level analysis, someone you can really trust. I go to tim dillon twitter profile and seems that he's posted.

He supports the searching for a nuke. He says he thinks is a nuke. He thinks the drones.

the roan, I would say like the whole roan very problem.

because IT has IT has everything I think, you know that has all the the little piece of cattle for has the u fo angle that has the potential bioweapon angle, you know there's every everything q on chery terrors of love or even .

anyone who's just was scapes al of the coverage. I am like rob is up because this feeling, I think everyone's coming at this. Everyone who's really, really upset with the story is attracted by some some specific peace.

But IT is multiple pieces like that. I saw um more than one person say that this reminded them of specifically coit. They said, I feel like it's you know february or march.

Of twenty twenty and i'm warring people about something and you're not paying attention. And I had never felt that way about this story. I've been I just didn't catch me the way to cover date early on. And now i've been playing catch up a little bit and kind of talking about this like what is IT about this story that has driven people while as you said, it's like there's the government interest peace as branding, you said it's like any time in expert says something a person of authority who we've granted authority and that includes especially local elected politicians in local news.

Local news completely fucked this up, like absolutely fucking. If IT wasn't for the local news, I think in new jersey is probably wouldn't have happened. But I took off because of the early local news reporting that they were definitely reporting on planes and helicopters.

Local news has never been. I mean, the difference what we're dealing with now is the fact any kind of clip anywhere can travel rapidly across the internet, which has been true for so long. But for some reason, it's it's only the last few years that we've really been dealing with.

This, like in this media ecosystem, is like chaotic media ecosystem at scale. I don't know why I took so long, but that's what happens now. So it's like if the government thing you have, the nuclear thing you have, the U F O thing, I genuinely, i've noticed there are people talking about the story who are not time my governess at all.

They believe that this is A U F O story that which is a whole other like, I never once thought this was A U F O store. I I know I don't understand what that's even coming from, but people really seem to believe that. So there is sort something for everyone is in the sort of online or the two online nation and um and I think maybe it's like I A little bit a hank gover from twenty twenty people feel they're feeling really vindicated about their skepticism of the government and stayed the the narratives back in twenty twenty and compete and there. And it's like they want to relive that a little bit and it's like rather than just go back in time or just be assess what happened back in time and holds some people accountable for what happened during cove were like we're now looking for some other version of that to get angry about. But it's like that's over and probably what we should happen as we should just I don't want to say that that he belongs in jail, but we we should have the conversation is what I think about that.

Yeah, I think that's a super interesting point that like you you're basically saying there's no like there has an enclosure. There hasn't been a proper post murder among COVID on the excesses of COVID um and some of like the literal human rights abuses.

Sit by your loved one as he died you had had a face time i'm in all the all the while the doctors said that he was IT was more important for you to to to protest George floyd like that police violence was a bigger public, healthy rist than covet. And so you could go outside for the flat protest, but had to stay inside, of course, if you were protesting the mask Mandate or whatever. So yeah, I totally think that's a really good point to make is actually there wasn't closure. And if we had a closure, you maybe wouldn't be seeing like people's going haywire on things that can be construed as like the government doing something bad at a massive scale.

Again, yeah, we can even have closure on IT because, you know I don't trap with the president in the summer of twenty twenty and you know you had a liberal left wing consensus on the topic of all of these things in the right wing was divided but started all that shit.

And so there is just not much appetite at the highest levels of government, I think, on either side to revisit this because so many people on both sides were complicit in all of these, I think, really traumatic things. I think I think that would happened during twenty twenty, the summer twenty twenty is like that was a traumatizing moment for not just hospital like the entire western world and um IT just never IT seems to me that just nothing is ever going to come of any of that. And so yeah we're going to be we're going to be reliving IT in other weird ways as someone traumatized will. Do you think .

there is going to be like, does there will be like a truth reconciliation commission for cover.

ever? I something might try and escape goat someone, but I don't I don't see anyone I could be wrong. I don't see anyone going after fouche. I I would be interested to see if we talked to otha few weeks ago if if biden give fell one of these new magical preemptive pardons um that apparently the president can do that would be interesting if he did that. But I don't I don't know.

I just don't think there's an alth appetite on the republican side to do IT because so many the republicans were totally complicit in every single terrible mistake that was made um you know to their credit, republicans cried out first about OK let's stop this. This is actually have a control and all of that the rule, like the conversation on what we should do, only ever happened on the right right of center where people disagreed and had multiple opinions and had a robot bus debate about how they should take place. The left just complete an immediate submission to authority and then no questioning was allowed.

But ultimately, both sides were complicit in this, and there's just no denying that. So you know who had a much worse time of IT during COVID? Where are friends up north in canada? Uh, rally. So we have a little a lot to talk about in terms of canada this week. SHE is break down the very first uh, piece of IT awesome yes.

So uh, alter, we are so close to bring you man, it's a matter of time will get there um but things are wishing so great for liberation Operation free canada that's ah so things aren't looking so great for just in trudeau s administration right now. Uh, with a number of major resignations on monday, including the resignation of his finance minister, literally just like hours before the release of a major budget update in the letter the minister I guess uh Christia freeman critique fil castro possible son for his governing style um as well as for his views on spending and quote the best path forward a for canada the spending disagreement in particular is only underscored by the fact that canada's economy may be set to face another um prety significant hit in the form of tariff s uh that trump has threatened h which economists they are going to have a like a pretty major impact um and all of that is leading trump to say that if canada can afford the terrace, uh that they may as well just become our fifty first step but we can hold that peace um for later if you want to on a while we just break down the fact that .

trudeau s is in very hot water right now IT all is important background on trude's collapse right now he feels like this sort of international humiliation of this man and his administration um which else there wrote about this week for uh the prayers daily and I think had some pretty unique insight as someone he's been living under his um I guess rain of terror for the last what is IT eight years um can you your great is from from up north yeah .

you know I think this is the worst has been for truda in a long time I think ever um in twenty twenty two there was the truck or rally in ottawa that became a very big story and that did a lot of damage to personal brand.

I think that sort of the down that triggered the downtown trajectory for his reputation um because he had invoke the uh emergencies uh emergencies act the war measures act which is from a very serious emergency piece of legislation that canada can use and they they invoke that to break up the truck or rally IT became a big global story and things have been downhill forms since then. A Christian freeman, his deputy pm was just a resigned was know his partner in crime um SHE had pushed a lot of policy to due for him. And you know I remember like back in twenty, eighteen, twenty nineteen going to conference in toronto tech conferences and you know the sort of business and tech world of canada was ally with the liberal government. They are on panels with the minister, innovation, talking together about the great trudeau government and all the things coming down the pipeline. And now that seems like everyone has one eighty on them, the business community, tech leadership community, investment community and informally that was just sort of the domain of rural al Albert ins driving f one fifties swearing about trude's formally like a untouchable thing for a lot of sort of polite canadian society but now that seems like everyone is turned against him um which i'm .

thankful you you think is the confidence of is IT like is the economy, is the immigration, is IT the in loving terrible stuff, is at all covered stuff. What do you think is IT that that really you said IT started with the truckers, which was crazy. I wrote about that at time and I tend to right about um out stuff too closely if it's taking place outside of united states and I did because um the the banking of the truckers felt important if just felt like I knew we hadn't seen something like that from um a liberal western democracy can rather really close I mean it's I take basically amErica and IT felt like maybe something that could happen here with specific things. You think that has been that that is I think .

the lock down and the truck er really response was the catalyst because covet put all of the choose on pause. Immigration was still a problem prior to twenty twenty years, but he was put on pause by by the lockdowns inflation and the growing deficit of the country was also put on pause or or at least he was kicked down the road sort of a in terms of social perception because people in care as much about the government spending as much because, oh, well, we're in an emergency. Who cares?

Um yeah I know I interest in can I do have a question for you just as a canadian and I promise the rest these topics I won't be focusing so much on your canadian and citizenship but I am intreat. We don't often have one on the part and especially when it's living there that's just crazy like a diamond in the rough um because he feels I always have felt like I like really like the same as america. I M just like sound the same.

It's like culturally it's so similar. It's we travel different places. All of our cities IT seems like an Operation that we should just be the same thing. What is keeping that from happening from your perspective is that I think it's health care is IT mostly just healthcare.

Interpret canada joined the U. S. And and cultural differences between the populations. I don't think that much really.

You know I think I think you know one hundred, two hundred years ago, i'm sure that people more inclined to be loyal to great britain or to the empire move north. But I don't think that is true. Now I think health care is probably the main issue that people would be attached to.

But even sentiment here around public health care has shifted, I would say, over the past five to ten years because that and other infrastructures has become a lot more crowded at as the populations grown and IT hasn't really been upgraded and improved um since of the golden age of the seventies and the eighties where that that modern shine. So you go to a hospital here and you can often wait five, ten plus hours, you know, unless you know your leg is broken, you have some emergency here, you're going to be waiting. And particularly for like more complex health care services, like memorized and stuff like that. You people are seeing the cracks, I think, in the public .

health care system here. Okay, what else beside head care though, is anything else? I was just, I want to solve this right now.

How do we how do we lock IT down? how? How do we join forces really, to really sort of like negotiate on behalf of the states?

Tell me, I think that what you have to do, essentially, I think how anxious go down, is there should be one province, one single territory, that's essentially a beta test trial run. And you established that that everyone favorable to the U. S. Project, to american project, everyone who wants to become a protect IT can move there. And now you have the most favorite population, more client towards american.

I love that someone because I think the biggest risk because if you if you just fall, then everyone that's close to the border, that whole population you're bringing in a lot of people who are not, you know, ideologically aligned, I think with with what you would want from an american a new american citizen um and even you know in canada in major major urban centers means very left obviously similar politics years cent from cisco. But even in rural areas in Kennedy, even on vancouver island, once you get outside major urban centers, you still have a strong, strong left leaning bastions. And i'm still not sure why that is. But it's not just urban centres that are lefty here.

extreme left. What is the reason that you think like where should we focus?

You know, environmentally ism Green party stuff is huge, which like crack here for canadian population. They love IT. They love environmentally ism. I think you know you you you go through a canadian post secondary or primary education, and that's like ninety percent of the textbook social textbook is all about climate change and environmental ism. So I think leaning heavily on that angle, which I think rk would help with some sort of some some of there's some sort of marketing angle there.

But what geographical location you say we you should focus on one, if you had a pic, would you be specific? Northwest will be the east.

You know the obvious pic is Alberta, given that people would say Albertas the most conservative canadian province. Um Albert also has a lot of oil oil sands, a lot of resource rich, rich area. So you could go with Alberta. And personal bias towards british columbia because british columbia just a little bit cool, little bit nicer, little bit more mile, a little bit like california. D like to think.

oh, I think IT is. I think that is for sure. Okay, cool. Well, that settled. We'll focus on the pacific northwest and and we'll bring out our environmental ism.

I do you want we have to talk about, we have to get to the public market read so Polly market, uh are r pay partner over here parret res naked guys for uh funding are incredible reporting and analysis. H such as you are now hearing in this conversation, I mean look at us um bridging two different cultures and negotiating new terrorist states. A would not be able to do IT without our good friends at this premier bedding market um then we're talking about trudeau.

So we're taking out the the odds over there uh fdl castro sun allegedly potentially uh after trumps tweet Polly market put up on market on whether canada will become A U S. State by june. The odds just four percent um a lot of the yes bet seem to come from people having funeral and canadians like baby man's twelve fourteen who said think i'll buy some yes and send a screen of the bet to canadian friends um as for trade o resigning before february, those eyes are my childer forty four percent.

I'm surprised at how you people seem to think the trudeau is gonna leave. We have been a major accident. There seems to be a total bottoming out of support for him and um and now trust in power and he sort of embarrassing him.

That's the main thing about the canadian state thing. It's like you see him, you see the leader of the country being just Mercedes sly, mocked on an international stage with like relative frequency or relatives vely higher frequency. Why is only forty four percent? I mean, what is up? What is going on with that?

What could that be? As a survivor managed to elude a lot of scandals in the past and that seems like nothing sticks very well. Um and you know the the liberal government has had this sort of alliance.

They've had this agreement with the more socialist party, the N D P. Party, to prop up the government because the liberal government does not have a majority um sort they need this other party to support them, to enable them. The government and that government could have called and can call on election. They can trigger this at any time but they chose him not to. A lot of people argue that the N D P. Leader, the social party leader jack meets saying is doing so to basically confirm is on pension because if he delays an election beyond a certain point, he ort of gets a guarantee pension that is locked in um but I got here my instinct is that trudeau will just try and hang on as long as you as long as you can until he essentially forced out crazy.

It's kind of related to our earlier topic of just information chaos. There were a flurry of these uh of reports from these accounts that are doing like news on on x now that were all like you know her from the contacts trudeau is out within the next twenty four hours with another days ago um and I actually I hit up alistair me I was a outstare my man in canada this is actually because I want to talk IT is like not a thing.

So I don't think that's accurate based on my very little land of years. So maybe right and he'll be around a little bit longer. Maybe you're wrong and will find out when we're back in two weeks, but will keep you posted moving on rightly. Let's talk about warn demanding accountability uh for over .

elon mosque yes sure. So elisabeth warn cried a trail of tears this week about the close relationship between ella musk Donald trump um saying that trump needs to hold rocket man to ethic standards now that he said to play an increased role in the incoming administration warn warned about the possibility of fraud that this now poses in the upcoming in a trumpet administration writing to the transition team um currently the american public has no way of knowing whether the advice that he is whispers ing to you and secret is good for the country or merely good for his own bottom line in in response, trumps team wrote back pokhara us can play political games and send toothless letters but the trump advance administration will continue to be held to the highest ethical and legal standards possible um which is of course a great response but especially so because as long a noted in the daily not only has warned like try to different people about what her race is but also presided over like two hundred billion dollars in covent funds being just like thrown down the drain and like congress and general just like definitely wouldn't know anything about committing fraud or being corrupt on a daily basis so that place you work not exactly spotlessly is beth warn it's worth underscoring in the two hundred .

billion dollars that's a small amount money that's like it's a number that's so big that we actually have a hard time comprehending IT genuinely you like we have a hard time of conceiving. Our brain is not built to to serve comprehend the number that large and it's just fucking gone. That's that's really bad.

That's really, really bad. Who is he to come in here and demand some kind of ethical responding oversight over over elon, which she's afraid of you billionaire corruption um there's already corruption. And not only is their corruption, my real problem with IT is not only they're already corruption, but we can't do anything like you are both corrupt and incompetent.

You cannot be both like you've got a big you've got to pick a name between those two. You cannot be both of those things. If you want a super corrupt, he's not, let's say he is super corrupt, but he's still lending rockets and he's now doing IT for the country and everything starts to work.

I don't even care. Sorry, I know I should care, but I don't care. I just want you to work again. That kind of that is like that's the flag that i'm sticking in the sand.

One thing that he does get right here is that like ian is pretty influential on the government right now, like his tweet alone pretty much single handedly killed the continuing resolution in the house right now, which I think is funny, by the way, like you have all these top converse men who are like, oh yeah, we're on board for doors and cleaning up spending and in lunch just like, okay, well, what do you put your money where this, where your mouth is and uh, they just all sort of like fAllen in line instantly when he comes out against the C.

R. I think that's just pretty hilarious. But it's also not the case.

Yeah on that on that that was, uh, so this is where to separate. Twenty first were approaching the deadline for a government shut down if they don't pass a budget. This was supposed to extend this until march, something I believe I was looking at this morning um without IT.

Now we're in government shut down territory and IT will be interesting to see if they dramati C2Cut wha t a b un ch of por k. The concerns ell's concerns that greatly amplified in the national conversation and ultimately coastline by trump. Where IT was a bunch of poor expanding, there are bunch of subsidy.

And there he didn't like. And he focused a lot also on pay raises for government employees. I think there's four percent or so for military workers, around two percent for government workers.

And then there was a pay bump to, I think, one hundred and eighty thousand dollars year for congresswomen. And that's the one that got the most attention, was like, how dare you get a pay raiser? whatever.

I mean, what do you make? What do you all make of that? Like do you think that that do you think they've negotiate?

I think we've seen government shutdown win this kind of bullshit. We've never seen something renegotiate. We have never seen the government renegotiate in such a way as um we came out of the other. And with less spending, that would be that would be really remarkable that happened. I mean, do you think .

that's gonna en? We just think IT be remarkable if I did. I think like this is how government always gets funded as they stall, stall to stall, stall. And then the last minute just rushed through everything. And I think that is a huge contributor for the fact that were forty trillion dollars and that or whatever.

So I think that would be very remarkable if this did he do something you would show elan? Is ig even more powerful than the corrupt system that are like or incompetence system that our government Operates on like year after year? Um so I think that would be very notable.

Um and yeah I think that would yeah I I would be very much in favor of that. And I don't think that sounds like elon lining his own pockets. That sounds like him um going out of this way to stop us from being forty trillion dollars in debt.

I think is a good thing. I just think going to happen. I don't think that.

I don't think democrats are going to budge. I republican, the pork is a problem in every state in the country. Uh, the subsidies like I like agricultural subsidies.

They are I mean maybe they are partly on blue states. This is like a red state thing as well. This affects everybody in office um and then you have the problems. So what are you left with that?

I don't see there are being any movement on those issues and you're left with what government pay or we're left with the idea of like, oh no congresswomen should be poor. okay. Well, guess what? They're not going to be poor.

So they are either going to be evil and criminal or they are going to paid well. Um and right now we have in a situation where, no, it's pay. We're not paying them anything. We're paying them jack shit.

So why do you want that job? Why do you have to have two houses as a congressman or senator, right? You have your home, uh your home place and you have have a place in D C. Where you work.

So what is what is the incentive to take a job for um what less than an entry level lawyer max in washington D C um where now have a target on your back with law there you are not you you all sorts of um intense oversight from like ethics committee and people are talking about like people are mad because you're trading on Robin and shit. Um like what I just don't understand what the incentives is to take that job, and I don't understand how he helps us to with all the money that we spend that we blow on fucking nonsense brand. And you just saw something today, what was IT like close to eighty million dollars for non profit defense in san Francisco. What was that thing?

IT was seventy six million dollars allocated during fiscal year twenty twenty four, twenty twenty five in the state of california to security for nonprofits who are at high risk for violent attacks in hate grant.

Like what is that like? Honestly, what is that? That is create White.

bring that one up in the commons segment. But that absolutely fucking enraging. It's deficit's corrupt theft. Like I don't understand how is to explain IT unless there's a pattern, a fire bombings going on in california that i'm not aware of. I persons haven't heard of any.

even if there were okay.

like twenty six million dollars.

But like that goes to what the police like. They did not be a special amount of money for private security for nonprofits that are also being funded by the state. Like none of that we should not be paying for any of that.

Our politicians should be paid to govern the security and infrastructure of the nation, period. And those things should be great. Top top of their class. Um and I just I feel like yeah we spent on the absolute worst things and then things like government, like the pay of lawmakers, comes up as is really easy symbol, like a strong man type thing that we can beat up on.

I really think it's like the dumas position of the boomer right way to care about this um is just a simple matter of incentives, american government officials and really like lawmakers specifically um that role is in competition with the private sector in a country that has like the most ripping private sector in the history of the human race. Um you're doing simply not going to attract smart people to those roles unless you fix th Epace s ituation, unless you actually compensate them and you should compensate them the way that we compensate like professor football players and shit like like we should do our coaches, like I was seeking to say i'm about my walk even for mayors, I don't care if they live in the city. I just care if they are good.

It'll be cool if you could pick up you like the sick mayor in in a small town and just like clean's house and then chicogo sy is that there's like, fuck you gotto pick him up over here and they can be signing bonus and they bring him out and he fixes things over there like that's the whether can think about this stuff. We should not be distinctively people who are intelligent for going to office because you're you're going to have either the stupidest people ever. That's your first option or your second option. Very smart people who are also evil yeah they are not there for the salary there there corruption. They are going to find some way to make money that that is not in the best interests of the country if you don't compensate them.

So that's up. Publish me, I think on that really quickly, just on on the idea of in synthesizing government officials to act on the behalf of american people and an an effective way. These people are, like you said, they're smart and they want to make money like everybody does, and they're gonna do IT.

One of two ways. One is by sort taking, taking, uh, taking their their role from sort of lobby's and these corporations that kind of have their interest, and they gonna make money doing things that sort of line their pockets that way. Or what if there is away that, you know, startups give their top employees equity so that their incentives are aligned and as they perform well, as the company performs well, they have the chance to make more money.

We don't really have that for our government that they are bought into the system. And in the other way, other than making money through these sort of back channel. So I wonder there's a way that they can sort of buy into the system. And if we do well as a country, they are rewarded for that. And then we all benefit .

what you can force them. That people also concurrently are bringing up right now the issue of insider trading in the government where like policy has this great stock portfolio, whatever. I don't give a fuck about that.

I would care, okay, if they have some secret information that bothers me. There's a delay between when their trades become public and may trade. That's not great. The answers is not to ban them from trading, just make IT public and force them to announce their sales are their trades like a day before or two days before, and everyone can see IT. And so then they can't front run the population.

And if you really believe that they have some kind of secret information, you can just follow them and you can become really, really, really wealthy and that benefits everybody. Or I guess i've also had people said recommended them kind of open to this as well. So I don't see a real need for IT forcing them out of any specific trades and certainly out of um short selling, which I kind of that I don't like that um and um i've just forced them into index funds and and letting them only to index funds, which would give them yes, some skin the game on the american economy fact.

I think part of their pay they should be forced to take in in index funds that they can tap for like ten or fifteen years or something like that, like force them in and like that. Yeah, let that be the majority of their pay. That would be great.

That would be great. That would be totally in sattin ze to a booming economy. Sounds good, at least let's try IT out and see I go. So maybe there are some huge terrible negative externalities that will find out um you know in six months or a year after that, whatever we can be access. But for now.

that sounds good to me. I generally agree with you sona, but I think were ignoring the fact that the people who got to study six trillion dollars debt are the ones that are getting the pay raises right now, so so like, or the ones who are asking for a pay raise, right?

And so i'm down to pay politicians a lot more money, but not the ones who who have essentially run our budget weird like large vote buying scheme almost in a sense and have like lined their own pockets. Um so that doesn't seem fair fair to me at all. It's it's kind of like a company that's been bankrupt or in the red for the past ten years or or however many years and us giving the sea weed uh, a race every year, right? Like IT doesn't doesn't make any sense.

You replaced this and you start a news. So I I would suggest that if there is a bill that increases congressional pay raises, its only to newcomer's, right? It's not to the current people that are in office.

Yeah I guess i'm open to that as well. I also the debt really starts sky acting bush ah during what the first iraq war, right? So like .

after I .

don't know, I just think it's actually such a small amount money and most were talking about there's just we want to punish these people.

It's not because we was like a perception of like unfairness, right? It's like all this, you know, again, like we have, we're putting seven, three million dollars to a non issue nonprofit security.

right? That is unfair. So that the kind of stuff that I want to focus on that is crazy.

That is the way that our government works that. That is the way people are like, we are the richest country in the history of the world. Our tax rate is insane.

Where is the money is there? It's like this system is is fucked up system where you have to know who to ask and like what weird sort of levers to pull to get random chunks of cash and that's that's the whole entire nonprofit system is like. And um and most of our government bureaucracy is like this.

And and and also most of our government welfare programs are like this. Like think about city housing, how do you get into in san franc score in new york city some kind of free, or told our super, super subsidized living situation. It's all about joining these weird weight lists and going to some weird meeting up with some weird dude at city hall are like knowing them.

Someone who can help you cut a line, which is also the way would have much saying at the same. But this is how you survived in the soviet union, is by knowing people who could get you what you need IT. Because you have scarce city of resources there and uh and you could no longer the market was no longer was no longer part of the dynamic.

And so you have to know somebody and that's what IT feels like at every level of our government. That's wait less fair to me than native pluses, uh, native policy stocks. It's like her policy is much worse than that.

I fake. Yes, I think you have a much easier cell on the increasing politician salary than the um letting them trade stocks. So I think like americans look at like politicians who like own like defense contractor stock and are like them voting for wars and naturally sort of sea that is being like a little bit corrupt.

And it's it's just even if it's not corrupt, it's the appearance of being corrupt. I think that's like something we shouldn't have in our politicians. So I think if you increase their salary, you take away the incentive for them to you and do that in the first place. And so I think that makes a little bit more palatable for the american people then. No, let's look the other way to their various trades.

I think so I think it's it's it's as we we're all saying IT probably is something like you have to take a huge chunk of your salary in just straight index funds and you can access them for like ten, fifteen, twenty years or something like that. Um and that intense you the long term thinking and and maybe that's the answer I grew the government with the the defense contract with thing um speaking of fAiling up um we are talk about this come a Harris gave newsroom hot swap um where I just rally just break IT down for us yeah so this .

was a pretty notable shakeup Gavin newsom, chief of staff of anie Williams and and I guess a long time chief of staff of his recently announced her resignation and soon after that I was also announced that her role would be filled by um none other than a former comer's aid named Nathan barking um a number of people online of sort of noted this significance of this including someone who suggested that the emerging plan may be for a new so and commonly to switch roles with her running for governor in him for president um this possibility LED to uh some conservation from california resident Brandon who wrote in the daily that um our last best hope may be a second Harris st run for president since you can't do that and also run for governor um and india as a new fellow california resident have to say I agree uh like because news some running for a president seemed like a foregone conclusion but completely d governor is like the last thing the state needs right now so I say yes either run for president or start that cooking show that you clearly have always wanted to do deep down.

I don't know why she's not doing that.

We all wanted .

to be cooking. He wants to cook. We wanted to cook. Like just do IT you don't you don't need this. You don't need to be governor.

It's you did IT like you write good job like you were the vice president yeah you made that you were so sink like you broke the glass ceiling. Now go the fuck home like it's we're done here ah I don't want want to be the governor. I don't want gave a knew them to be the president um well, he is very clearly running.

This is why he was jumping on the dolch thing. Did you see that? Should he said about dog? He said california has been doing dodge.

What for excuses said the whole time california has been doing dodge for for the whole time that before is doing the government, the california, a government has been cutting waste. I find that very hard to believe. I found that hard to believe when he said IT.

I found that absolutely hilarious when a day later, news broke from california safe on cscope. Uh, that the city government has just hired a fat consult, an eighty fat shaming consult. What is her exact title? What is this woman exact title? Bring IT up.

We're going to go to straight, you know, were going to go a fat activist. New york post is where we're going. Here we go, comes right up and they're always theyve got our back, guys. They know what I want to give IT to me. The headline is fat positivity expert higher by 3Frances, good department of health to consult on weight stigma.

And now there are really just like there's endless content on this woman's instagram where her her chief focus really is to sort of Normal ize the concept of fatness and this idea, which we've not talked much about on the show, he feels like to red me coach horr like anti woke for me it's like jokes make themselves but why not now um it's like this idea that you can be healthy at any wait including mobilely obese and um and this woman is going into the workplace, the city workplace that we pay for to Normalize that concept one but to also protect employees from harmful sort of the phobic conversations explicitly this is her position like talking just talking, just talking about exercise in one in one clip you know what? Let us start there guys is talking about exercise at work for but we're not even talking about telling you tell someone that they should exercise. I won't.

It's fat phobic. I don't believe in this idea. If i'm not afraid of fat people, I simply don't want to be one.

And I encourage other people not to be one. So I wouldn't do IT to their face. I think it's rude. I also know there's any place in a workplace to be like go fatty like going a bike like that's fucked up. You should not do that. I don't need a fat phobia consulting to come and tell me that that just called being a decent human being and also being professional .

look like I don't think anybody I agree, we agree like in a sense like IT would be nicer to fat people for Normal people to like to Normalize being fat in a way like that's that's fine from a societal perspective. But like we lt, we shouldn't Normalize that in our medical community. Like our doctors should not Normalize fat like like they are supposed to give us advice on how to be more healthy. And so SHE, if she's going after the medical profession, which IT seems like he is saying like, you know um this seems me medical uh sorry, Normal ized among medical people that's like totally fucking wrong and a ways to tack her money .

it's such a it's it's like this one almost too is it's like, can something out here can you still mine IT defender?

Then her, well, I found that .

tough.

to be honest. Be honest. I these activists, you know activists always talk about these issues and whether it's weight or other topics, they always talk as if there's a sort of you know bullies is working around every corner in the office like peaking their heads out, waiting to find the perfect moment to go.

You suck fatty or whatever. But I really don't think that's very a common anymore. No one says these things anymore. It's not like widespread.

This this stuff doesn't happen anymore, especially in a culture now that's been very, very like over socialized and exposed to media. People are barely socializing. People are rarely flooding and off as or anywhere else. So I think I don't think .

that obvious going on and trying to this clip of the kid was bullied and the talk show host is like, where are you the kind in lc we call you and you like a list like like fifteen of the map. Can you play that clip if you can you you after just play that clip right now, what kind of names were these kids calling .

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right? It's just fucking crazy. Uh, men, I going to stop. So that's terrible. It's that, I mean, it's terrible what IT happens to a kid. It's terrible to say it's an adult, but I would never say IT work. So I just makes the question like, what are we really talking about like this? This one is not being called any of these sees at the at the workplace.

We are nice though that nobody has been meant to honestly think it's just like this woman's insecurity has drivers to start like a nonprofit or something like that. And SHE like and temporal s insane politics enable these types of people. Is is that really that, I mean, maybe he was believed when SHE SHE grew up.

a still man might also be like, did you have any actual like science to back up the claim that like being mean to fat people only makes their like obesity worse or anything because I mean I would guess the opposite .

would be I don't know what she's arguing is that obese itself is not a problem that uh in other videos on her instagram SHE talks about um the idea that he grew up going to doctors as a little kid who is fat although he said in a bigger bodies her phrasing I believe so fat is by way fat like the lindy we east or west or whatever she's there's win the fat community saying the word fat is like a it's a thing it's not an insult. It's like there like we claiming IT or something I was supposed to call him that Better than all the other ones I don't know. Anyway, this woman as a Young woman said doctors would tell her the immediate thing was you have to strike how the most important thing is free to shrink your body and he always assumed that that came from a place medical of advice um but actually there is no medical basis to the idea that more the just plus to say fat people should lose weight for their own health and I find that hard to believe based on what i've seen um but probably we should get a fat experts here to talk about IT because that would be a fascinate .

in conversation I don't know how left is like presumably would endorse this fat lady and fat study is and all this stuff but then like turn around and like gop shit about Robert Kennedy, you know oh right well .

because yeah they're going up to the medical establishment. I agree. I mean, a lot of these hard core leftists have tons of overlap with the R F K maha contingent of one really interesting clip I saw this morning um on the view you see the more moderates getting the fight with Sunny homes yet again.

And this time I was I was over the question of Robert Kennedy and sa hanes brings up stupidity like eater medicine and as she's like, you know there's there's some truth to this. Like what about like all these other practices? And the Sunny hosting is like my husband, a doctor, and he's right about everything and that's kind of the debate between two. But he was interesting to see these women who are super die hard anti trump ers reveal um what I think is a real interesting fault in american politics, fault in american politics on this issue, like on the health stuff.

You loop in a lot of lefties with a lot of right wing people actually like left in women who are more open to sort of strange, like is not experiments but just like nature, like homeopathy and a version to medicine and things like this um was always a left wing issue and and now there's a huge overlap with the right wing people. But yeah, he was called to watch that. And not surprised that Sunny, an expert in the house, you telling her what is right, what is wrong and that he is defending IT on those grounds specifically just the conversation ends with my husband, doctor. So you're wrong .

to your point. Yeah, I think that that was actually a genuine way for trump to like Brown and his coalition was to get some of the yoga moms onto his side. And twenty four, like i'd like personally know a lot of people who are never even right reading at all. And then with the whole R F K thing you get some of those like uh granola, like uh yeah type people and I think that was was actually a genuine way to get more people on this side.

What do just hold for the year? This is is not going to round out. What are you grateful for? Give me, give me your rose in your thorn, all all of you.

Uh, best thing might be a total cop out, but getting to, uh, work for this job that I now do where I had talked to, say a hat on a podcast for living.

which is awesome. Worse case.

I guess we yeah I don't know. I guess we avoided the worst case, which would, uh have been because the worst case as soon to come. Well, yes, but worst case, maybe soon to come if commonweal becomes governor of my new state and i'm begging for that one not to happen. So fingers cross for the new year. I was .

going to I thought we were we were going to do like best thing that could .

happen and more thing that could happen in twenty .

twenty five. So I that could happen as elon is elected speaker of the house .

as we are .

hearing might happen today very serious reports of this i'm saying um and the worst thing thing they get to happen is nuclear war with the ukraine. So let's let's hope ah that doesn't happen. Hopeful ly to stop. The more I know.

I think for me best best thing that happens so far. Just generally the vibe shift, I feel like you can just so if there used to be a lot of tension about saying what you wanted to say all the time, and I feel like now you can just speak your mind freely and people seem to be a little bit less crazy in a little bit more respectful of different views. So I feel good about that.

Um I think the worse thing is if I live in york city, if new york city continues to descend in to chaos and not kind of get their act together when IT comes to some of the insanity on the streets and in the subway. S um hopefully, hopefully eric atoms can continue on what he says is going to be a crusade on protecting the subway. But if not, I think it's it's going it's going to keep getting .

ugly down there. Well, yeah I think this year I am personally grateful for you know, even though the canadian state might be crumbling, IT has meant that given all my clients are now american, I get to take advantage of an increasingly attractive exchange rate.

So I got a nice arbitrage plays, sort of the country falls apart, okay, for next year, I think you know, I think we're seeing experiencing a lot of some of the fall out of of of code and twenty twenty now, especially this past year or it's like we're not going back what was before twenty and twenty. I think a lot of people were sort like will back and down the hatches for a bit and go back to how how things were. But I don't know.

I think a lot of stuff is on the table now. I do see like something like a annexation or something to play with canada, the us. Being able to happen twenty, twenty five.

And beyond that, twenty five, okay.

maybe not twenty, twenty five, but in the twenty, twenty or twenty thirty years, I could see an event like that, that formally people would have thought was just kind of totally outlandish and impossible. And I want to see I I want to play a major central role in that initiative. I hope that happens. And you know, there's a dosh, canada. Whoever can find me, come help me up.

And I love that idea that I agree that things you feel possible now I was my blood was gonna be um the success of the poor wires daily, which I feel I just opened up a whole new gay wave for us and like really kind of focus the company thing like that. But as you're talking IT reminding me, so my foreign was uh the day that trump was shot, that for me was really dark because I I I got just I think I saw ve the negative time line kind of right.

And one of me IT was less about trumping IT was about entering a period of really frightening in chaotic political violence without knowing who is in charge, where things we're gonna like, things could have ve gotten very, very, very dark for everybody regards of politics. And not just in america, but worldwide, that would be really, really, really bad. IT feels like amErica is open for business again.

And that is accurate. That is the feeling that i've had for a while, like we were washing a building, be built and is like nothing there I would have been built for gravity. Ve, who on the president right the presidents would have been to build regards of whether not dodgers on the table would have been built regardless of um whether not the economy was was cracking and bitcoin was at an all time high in all of that.

But something happened in the culture where people are just excited here right now, like people are are maybe excited the wrong word? I want to say optimistic because even I feel like even democrats are feeling this way um whether or not you like whose in charge right now, for whatever reason, this sense of optimism about the future is back in play. For the first time that I can remember, I am I didn't feel this way during proms administration last time.

I didn't feel this way certainly in the last administration before that under obama like this feels really exciting to me and I all think it's about trump necessarily IT seems like amErica is just looking to get over its shit and um and to do stuff again and i'm that's the bud for me for sure that is a that sense of optimism is back in play. And I just hope you do a lot with IT and I hope you make the most a bit because it's not going to last. So you have to make you have to make the most of these windows, often them when they appear.

And and i'm certainly going to try and hope you guys always well. It's been a joy working with you this year, and it's been a pleasure talking to you guys uh every week in this chat again, we're off for two weeks, Christmas and new year's uh rate review subscribe comment tell us who you want to see back on parade next, uh, next year yet twenty twenty five is coming and makes for everything. It's been real die.