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It's time for my cake cab and listener joe brings us our quick tip of the week, he says. I found this after being frustrated with not simply being able to paste in a phone number in the iphone phone APP in the keypad part. Normally, a data detector will detect the phone number and just offered to let me call, but that doesn't always work. What I found is that you can paste a phone number in, but it's hidden. When you have the dial pad screen up, you simply tap and hold above the keypad in that sort of White area where the phone number would appear eventually, and you will get a paste option, and then tap paste and bomb your number appears, and then you can hit the little Green button to make the call more tips like this, plus your questions answered today on magic up ten sixty two for monday, november forth. Use your common sense day twenty twenty four.

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dave hamilton and here in south to koto using my common sense. I'm adam .

Christianson yeah when I saw that on the list cycle, this is the only common sense were more common extra .

int ah like bryan said in the chat, common sense not always come in practice, unfortunately yeah often wish people had a little bit more and then I got me thinking, like my parents, you say that to me when I was a kid and I don't remember, I don't hear that as much anymore. It's like, use your common sense. No.

they would like, oh, that's true. Yeah, that's just not a thing. Welcome to two older guys. Don't want a podcast. great.

I don't know. IT was common. IT was common in a vacuum when I was growing up. Is like, what did you use your common sense?

IT was, it's true. I do .

something right.

right? Yes, yes. This was not A, A, A phrase of endearment.

Let's make this clear. No, no, no, no. That's right.

yeah. Think, why didn't you use your common sense? yes. Ah, we are yet again missing pilot p today.

Yes, he's still out flying the plane and the police code for ten sixty two is subject possibly wanted. I would say it's subject absolutely wanted. Yes, exactly. So I think in a good right in a good I think when it's at ten sixty two, that's telling you that the person that you have in your in your custody is wanted for something else I think is what the why yeah not so good. I think I think they landed.

So we occasionally and fill IT back up. I feel so yes, could be the same same plane, but probably not .

the same fuel. Yeah, we will have to ask pets if he's ever done media refueling. I can only imagine how stressful that could be a an interesting, but maybe during his time in the marines, perhaps it's possible.

In fact, probably likely he, if you ever get to hang out with peat a ask him about his time on a aircraft Carriers flying the Carriers. Yeah yeah ah fun. Our giveaway a air in november is with our friends at other world computing and um they are going to give away one of their new one m to S S D enclosures here.

So got a magic of slash give away. Oh, and then you will you will be able to to enter into that. I need to make the change here. So if you're question of a live stream, you can enter sure I make sure saying pulls your name separate from the list so that a listener actually gets IT. But you know, sure you can enter IT just mean you want.

But all right, what else do we have here? Do we have some tips? I bit, but let's do some tips, shall we? Want to take us to time?

Oh, up.

Yeah, I think so. Attention, it's okay. okay. I mean, you would put your name on that one. So I figured maybe you know this .

is the ellipse is right peat, because he was talking about using ellipsis and maybe overusing them now, which is something that i'm probably also guilty of but toda for pete on the mac or IOS when you type three periods in a row that the OS converts them to an a lipsey so that would make you an easy way to type that. Um I know that's part of the like defauts auto correct and I think I have seen that come up before.

I can remember last time I pri talked about on IOS the present hold. I thinking present hold on the period key and that will bring up the ellipsis option on the mac. My favorite thing, as I just learned the keyboard shirker, which is option semicolon.

So I use that all the time. Yes, I like that. But yeah IT sometimes comes up automatically. We I dug into this and I found that I worked in messages, notes um actually I guess IT only worked for me on my mac and messages IT did not work in notes or no mail um and also not in slack or thunderbird on IOS because of the way the keyboard works. IT worked in all of those apps.

Well there's no thunderbird fios I know of, but but yeah did did not work in other mac apps for me. But one could set up a texture replacement. No in in either text expanded or in the a keyboard, whatever they call that. The system setting is IT stills, ous system settings keyboard ders IT buried one level deep is its system settings .

are asking the hard questions .

IT is it's on the top level. It's not bare yeah. So if you go on its system setton keyboard text replacements, you could add one that is three dots replaced by the the ellipsis character, which is, as you pointed out, option semi colon .

pan and also three dots is not in aleph is to stop doing IT sorry, this get on my back for a minute .

IT would that be five spaces or a tab when you when you're indenting encoding? Well, we're on the subject of what is ABS always are you and always to have I guess I I guess I knew that about you. Yes yeah yeah, yeah.

spaces. What's that now the now the holy core starts in the chat. That's right. Haps, not spaces.

Yeah, that's right. We well, and if we're going to have this hollywood, we should talk about vi versus IMAX because that's that's the most .

important all .

see you already in yeah in our our discord jet has immediately devolved into a the holy words, which I love. Lawyer jeff, uh, says I wanted to share a strange glitch I ran into after updating to maco as fifteen point one on monday, just in case anyone comes across anything similar.

Right after the update, I noticed that my list of updates in the mac b store was showing dying apps that supposedly needed updates, except they were apps I had already uninstalled. When I tried to click update on any of them, I got the era dialogue saying that the update could be, couldn't be completed to fix IT iran, a command in terminal, to reset my launch services database, and we'll put the command in the shown. But you could also do this with onex if if you so desire.

Watch services, he continues, handles up associations and other background info about installed applications. After that, I restarted the mac and the list in the mac APP store cleared up. The nine update entries for the uninstalled apps disappeared.

Hopefully that's the end of IT, he says. But let me know if you run into anything similar with Michael s fifteen point one. I'm in doing pretty well with fifteen one. That's an interesting one and a great catch to fix that. Love the the reset of .

launched services.

I I yeah right yeah yeah yeah. It's spent a while since i've had to reset on services. I'm i'm surprised IT wasn't reset. Maybe IT was reset as part of the fifteen one update and I just didn't I don't know.

like something .

happened the library yeah. But like if the apps not there, why would launch services catch IT? That's what makes me think IT wasn't fully fully reset. But who knows?

No yeah.

maybe yeah, yeah yes. Uh, I do have an an issue with the new safety and um the dock apps. You know how starting last year, you can take a web page and save IT as a but save to dock I think is is the command in in safari right you go to the the file menu and choose add to dock and then IT IT saves IT, an acts like an application, which is like a web up, which is awesome.

I use IT. We have our shopping out stock, which if you are listening, you can follow along with us and you can even edit IT. We trust you it's magic.

Gave that come as shown notes and and it's linked in the live chats and stuff so you can see where we're going with things and um all of that if you want to go to watch even more about how the sausage is made. In prior in Michael is fourteen. IT works the way I want IT to work.

And the hello, hello, articulate that is by describing what now happens in Michael is fifteen, which I have not yet updated to here in the studio, mainly because audio devices, but also this. So I have a separate web APP for each of the three podcast that I do for the the same, essentially the same agenda document. No, get one for this.

Obviously one for, get one for business print. I noticed. And I have the same down in my office because I pull him up what i'm doing, show prep and things like that. I just makes life easier and have mom my laptop to.

I noticed as soon as I moved to aos fifteen on my laptop and computer down in the office, any time I click a link to open a google doc, like if I get an email, if you were to send me an email at a linking into a google doc that we needed to like, you know, some spreadsheet I needed to fill out for a proposal ever IT will open in one of those web apps. Now IT like IT treats that APP as the like, the the way all google dogs will open, not just that one google dog. And so I dug into this.

Actually, I posted about IT in our discord. And one of our listeners pointed to an apple, a developer support article about how that is the default behavior now. But you can set a scope for IT.

And there's if you go into like if you open up the package of that web APP, you you can see in there there's a and so I changed the scope to not just be, you know, whatever drive up google 到 com or whatever is， I changed IT to be that specific U L. OK. great. And then the applicant launch, presumably because I changed something about IT and the security check, some whatever IT is they're doing, the hash, the crc, who knows when or no this is different from what IT was saved as you .

save you .

yeah what what's supposed to happen is web developers are supposed to put that scope in there in the web page or something so that IT then gets Carried down. And when safari makes one of those web apps IT.

IT puts the .

there is something I don't know, but I was .

not sense.

Yeah but I, but like now I have to petition google to change for, well, wait a minute.

Could I could I redirect google? Whatever that is, is going to drive up google 点 com if I win into my slash ET slash hosts file。 And I don't think you drive up google now, just temporarily send IT so that I could load a local file without web page that has all of the stuff that I want on IT, and then save that as a web up and then go back and remove that for my ani host.

And now I mean, how is the scope added to the pages? Is is just like A H htm tag, like a regular?

I I think I think so when you first .

load the dog before you save IT as an APP, could you just edit the source and you know locally, then save IT .

at at the source in the page, like in a web? Spector.

inspect weapons. Spector, just add IT in an, I would try that yeah you more .

smarter than me that makes perfect sense.

I don't know it'll work.

but that is a Better idea than my crazy. I mean.

you might have to do the whole like fake IT till you make IT like but let I think that year drive at google outcome and hopefully if it's just a simple tag that developers are supposed to add like a meet a tiger what I ride to know how it's done .

yeah yeah IT says, um is koa at support for opening links directly in web apps? Now if the user clicks a link, if IT matches the scope, IT opens there. Um by default, this behavior replies on the link matches the host of the web page. As a developer, you can refine this experience by defining the range of ur else that should open in the web APP with the scope member in the web APP fest.

you had to put a web up, man of host file that's like A I think it's a side like Jason file.

It's web apps. I've never mess .

with that too much. Oh yeah, so I was great when they add more work for us developers. Yeah, love IT. Yeah.

yes. So I love this.

Was that so is that manifest file not come down when he is that what you're editing when you're going to the package?

yeah. And IT doesn't like IT. IT doesn't. We won't launch now the other thing is maybe I need to just look at the security things and find how to like force because I can go and edited. But like I said, the APP did just is like, now this is damaged. No, it's not.

It's like what a super nerdy rabbit hole we just went.

嗯。 哼， i will put a link to the。 The discard chat that we have about going about this in the shown ots so that so if you want to get in on this conversation, you are more than welcome to um but yeah.

I think that would would have killed them to just have put a like setting in safari that you could just flip to change the defauts behavior .

back like or in the web APP. Like why not have a settings and they do have A A settings icon in the web up. But like why can I change IT there?

Just like only openness, like IT, I don't care what google wants me to do. This is my web up apple. Like can I yes, can I use my computer for a little bit? Like it's to the point where I don't have any google dox web apps.

I had to delete the ones from my computer in the office. Well, they're functionally useless to me now. No, yeah, yeah, total stupid. Anyway, um sorry about that. But maybe alex x has something .

to take us away from this. That wouldn't .

be a bad thing. What IT alex says, I know i'm going to find IT here. Hello， dear M G. G. He calls us back to episode three fifty four. He says that what what i'm about to talk about was introduced macos lion many years ago and was highlighted in episode three fifty four, thirteen years ago, says but I wasn't a listened then that's probably true for many of you and that's okay um he says that wasn't even an apple user then so maybe it's worth resurfacing uh he says using pages in numbers for several years this is a discovery for me.

Apple's office sweet has a very nice empowerment versioning feature not to be confused with track changes that's different if you go in pages or numbers and possibly kiote. He didn't say keino. I'm not testing IT here, but certainly worth looking.

Go to the file menu for any document you have open, choose, revert to and choose browse all versions um and that will give you a list of all of the versions of that document the pages IT has, he says, supported in the eyes work suite preview and text edit and there is even a support article about IT so um yeah view and restore past versions of documents on the mac. Love this. I said this .

is different, different than what then track changes.

which is the thing where if you and I are editing a document that we're passing back and for you can like for red lining something no.

I think I think the versioning thing relies on time machine. So I think you have to have i'll remembering, right, you had to have time machine active, right? Because I think that's where keeps those versions. This was introduced way, way back .

when I the support article.

that is, many apps automatically .

save versions of documents. As you work on them at any time, you can, through document versions and go back to an older version, you can also explicitly save a version. So yet, yet, and then IT continues.

Actually, IT says a version saved automatically every hour or more frequently when you're making many changes. A version is also saved when you open, save, duplicate, lock we name or revert a document. So no, I don't.

So they just do and some sort of good thing under the I guess .

yeah where where .

they saving others. I mean, if we just be the changes, that wouldn't be like huge. What's a storage?

But that was alex, a sort of follow up question. He says in episode six or one still blowing my mind, but that somebody knows these episode numbers your amazing else, uh, you share a story with a warning that this regard might wind up occupying a lot of space eventually and that the versions folder to have in, and we share the versions folder in that episode to evaluate size occupied.

But that's for the versions of files that are stored at a local drive. What about I cloud versions like of a pages document? Could you by any chance help to answer the question? Is there a possibility to see the amount of space occupied in my eye cloud with versions? I think you'd have to look at the local files and see them there would be. But I don't know that leave that is a geek chAllenge. Somebody does know feed back and back again.

I wouldn't this is those things or it's just like I wouldn't worry about IT too much because again, like it's not it's not saving the entire you know it's like not like at point time saving the entire document. It's a literally just saving the little changes that you've made in that document. So like it's the amount of storage the stuff ends up this just minor compared to yeah you know that sort of thing.

Yeah, fair, fair.

alright. Well, hose has a tip for us. He says, I previously sent a tip about how are you spotlight on my iphone to quickly get down job some text down and how I take a screen shot, which I review in sort at the end of my day, I found the speed quicker than opening the reminders APP or the notes APP, then tapping on the field to make IT active, then finally typing the text I want.

Well, I no longer have to take the screen shot because I recently discovered that if that I can drag text from the spot lite field and drop up into reminders or notes, and even in desperation, you just have to double tap or triple tap to highlight the text, tap and hold to drag the text to the desired APP cover until that APP opens and let go. I don't know when this functionality was added, but IT works in IOS eighteen point one. Also, if the APP you want to drop the text into is on a different page, you swipe to that page using another finger while holding onto the text tip within a tip to highlight a single word, you double tap.

To highlight a paragraph, you tribble tap. Not sure if any would plan this useful, since there is probably a shortcut that does a version of this. And of course, there is quick notes, but that is only for the notes APP.

Of course, i'm just processing. There's a lot of tips in there like I had forgotten about the triple tap to select whole paragraph.

Yeah, I use that all the time. I use the double. I use both of those all the time.

Yeah, that's pretty good. Huh interesting. Yeah I did not know.

I didn't know about the drag to from spotlight. To do your thing like that makes sense. Why not it's text. So yeah ah. Yeah ah and in the multi finger like swiping you you're holding the text with one finger and swiping with the other finger you know gay only touch.

But I wish apple would have adopted at one point the the little trick that was in. And I know there's sliding. There's third party episode this the little trick that used to be like, I think I was native to the new ver, where you could like grab some text, a drag IT to the site and would sort of dock there and then you could just navigate around Normally, and then you could, like, pull IT back out and drop at where where you wanted.

Yes, yeah, I well, that's what we did that give away in october with eternal storms. And one of the things they gave away is yy, which I believe is part of set up. Don't call me on that. You will call me. I just quoted myself.

I don't know. No, I don't know.

This is a but yong is like now that I have you on my mac, IT needs to be on all of my max because IT does exactly what you describe. You just take something and and docked IT temporarily and then you to bring you back in whenever you want .

IT it's way simpler so um yeah .

so he .

said he needs a tip to remember all the tips.

Oh yeah, well, wait. That means that what we need to start doing when we craft the agenda is organized the tips into neonics, so that we can come up with a phrase that the first, first letter of each tip spells, so that we can remember all the tips.

No, I just I felt like I see building a search able database in my future.

No, that's even Better.

That's a much Better possible. Yeah, I mean, we think .

of have that with like the search on on on magia. But here's the thing like IT, what I know that we already we just haven't done this. We could feed all of the audio and what pages into an LLM and just have to be our engine.

We have that. We have that on our corporate website. They added that I forget which tool they used. But yeah, we now have A A I little bought and basically they just fed all of the duck website data into IT in IT now answers questions yeah yeah.

we're doing that with one of my other companies and it's like it's been amazing. It's really yeah, it's crazy.

It's crazy. So you could just be like, can you tell me about that tip that that was sort of about this and I would be like, here you go, of course yeah from this .

episode yeah ah that would actually for what we do here that would be super handy. So yeah and I like I know OpenAI has has a that you can just feed that into so that you get the user experience that you want with the engine that you want to know how to find out .

what we're using. Maybe we don't know how much a costs.

but yeah IT, usually the cost of IT is for what we would want to do would probably be negligible, I would think. right. Yeah yeah.

Um I was doing i'd spent some time I went to pet come a well last week on october thirty eighth. And so I took the train down in back amtrack. And m fx.

Wifi has gotten much Better over the last year. I was on both the northeast regional and the associate and not at the same time, obviously. But yeah, why I was was much Better than I remember.

I was able to be extremely functional, aal and productive during the train rights, which was kind of my point of taking the train is posted driving. I noticed, you know, they have the name of the amtrack. Wifi remains the same. And I was on four different trains, a train from new hampshire, boston in boston, new york and same to in reverse.

And I was like, oh, I I don't want my I peer dress rotating because I wanna just be able to say, except to the new terms once, and then just have a sort of float with me from train to train without having to worry about IT. So I went in to system settings network and turned uh looked at private um wifi addresses and I saw that there are three options now one is off and that turns this feature of. And what this feature does is IT invents probably the wrong word, but IT creates a mack address for your wifi connection that is not yours and it's intended, I mean, when is when you have this off, people can track your device and IT create a fingerprint of you wherever you go.

When you turn this feature on, IT obscures that. So that's the reason for this. But there are three options of being, one of them, the other two being fixed and rotating. And mine was set to rotating.

And I thought why I don't want IT to be rotating because I just want, when I connect to m track wifi, I wanted to give the same mac address for the entirety of this trip. And so I said, IT to fixed. And then I thought always a minute, I just made an assumption about things.

Let me actually learn what these do. So off is obvious. It's just off fixed. IT comes up with one and keeps IT for that wifi network no matter what IT for eternity.

Rotating apple says when set to rotating, your device uses a private address that rotate to a different private address every two weeks. Uh, your device chooses rotating by default when joining a new network that uses weak security or no security. I can open network on the train, so I set IT back to rotating because two weeks is plenty.

And i'd love that they chose two weeks because that means that when you're at your hotel, your mac address likely doesn't change unless you're staying there for more than two weeks and all of that stuff. So this idea of the rotating address i'd love, I just assumed IT was rotating every time, you know, every time I reconnected, IT would come up with a new one. No, obviously not. You want to, you want to be remembered for a little while, just not for all the while. So I want to show that, yeah.

cool. yeah. Very, very cool. yeah. We learned .

to absolutely well, you know, like, obviously doing the show, we get to learn to. I always, I always think I get to learn the most, but one other by product. One of the many wonderful buy products of doing this show is IT always keeps me questioning my assumptions, like in this case, like it's just part of the mindset of wall.

Is that true or or is IT not like I need to go with my god on this? I'm sure someone will tell me. And sure enough, apple has a support article that told me like, great. Now I know. amazing. So.

very cool.

good. Yes, I yeah. Jones got.

think this rap us up. I think maybe they're be bonus once that that we come up with. And this is for those of us with the the new iphone with the camera button.

So if you have a new iphone with the camera button and he says, I said that camera button to take a double press to activate, this is so you don't extended activated. I've actually been struggling with this. I accidently at IT quite frequently.

I found that I wouldn't know activate IT when I didn't mean to me too. And that has fixed the problem. So like that's a simple solution. Um if you want to do this, you go into settings, camera and then camera control and there's a bunch of options there. So I think this is the other tip.

I might actually just change mine from the camera because i'm kind of OK just you know doing the camera controls the old way from the homes screen or the lock screen. I just noticed I can change IT. And I I knew you could change IT to any third party up.

So if you have a third party crapped, you prefer to use verses apples, which is really nice. You can change IT to that. So like I have how light is an option. Um but I also noticed in here is code scanner .

for scanning Q R coats.

Ha, yeah.

that might be a Better use of that button .

maybe huh?

interesting.

I don't know. I might have to play with the ballet I like the double clothing because that that avoids you .

know accidental pressing sing yeah huh huh um I wonder I I don't I have not experiences this issue with accidental pressing, but I use the case and you don't adam, i'm i'm curious if listener, john, where he falls in that yeah yeah that .

would help because you ve got the deeper click. Mine is all rabbit in the rob, you know and Steve would say I was holding a rock the the other thing that i've struggled with this one a little bit more is my muscle memory for the volume. I tend to go now to the action button when i'm trying to put the volume up in, down first, like I am trying to go up. I have to go, let's like a lower or something.

I don't know. Somehow I hit IT. Well, you're using most button for the volume. And now top most button on that side is the action button. So IT makes perfect sense.

So i'm learning. Learning will .

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I had? Yes, IT is I got IT finally fixed. Yeah, I had a good lesson.

And you know why maybe everything doesn't need to be connected to the internet. And actually I believe this about this product, right? But I have an ember mug.

Which is great, right? IT allows you to set a temperature, and you say, I want my beverage to maintain this temperature and IT and IT does IT right if like, keeps your coffee warm, because i'm kind of a low coffee drinker and I don't like cold coffee. And the problem is, is an IoT device and IT requires an APP.

And I have no idea why IT requires an APP, because I could have a little dial on IT with the, with a display that lets you set the temperature, and you could slight with, physically looked at him. But this is the way IT works well today. I went, you know, have been using for a while.

I really do like IT overall ve got a lot of great features. I wish the battery glasses a little longer, but I think IT keeps IT warm for about two hours or so. But I have version when I don't.

There's a new version that might last longer. But and then you just set IT on a little the charging thing. That's the other thing as i've had to replace my little charging cosa a couple times because the buttons, it's got physical connection to a copper rain on the bottom so it's crusty.

I don't know again why they can do a wireless. Maybe it's because it's still a ceramic c, it's got a certain coating on at least. So maybe he doesn't work.

I don't know, I digressed. But what happened this morning was I went to go set IT and I launched to the APP, because IT Normally happens automatically, but every everyone wants a while. I do have to real unch the up and reconnect.

Or when our side went to set the temperature and IT popped up and I said, hey, we've got a brand new up for you. congratulations. Is gonna amazing.

But you have to resign up for your account. So I don't know if they got purchased by somebody or just they move with a website. I have a turning background research, but for whatever reason there, like, you have to create new account.

Oh my god, great. And I had originally created account with log in with apple, and so IT brought up a new screen to create the account. And how the options do you want sign up for and with the email or google or sign in with apple, like H, I want sign in with apple.

I tapped IT. The thing came up IT said, do you want to use your apple account? I didn't really think much of IT.

I said, yes, I want, use my apple account, hit the button IT did the whole face ety thing and then I went right back to the log in screen and I went, uh, okay, I did IT again. The same action happened again. And then so I I was like, oh, I know what's going on.

I had signed epoxy with apple for my old account. So I trying to log into the old account, not sign up for a new account, or this was my theory. And then I realized, I don't know how, I don't know how to get rid of my log in with apple kill like I don't know how to like, tell IT, I don't want to use this log in with apple account anymore.

right? yeah.

So I had to figure out that. So there's a little tip in here. So if you do need to do that, all you have to do is you go into settings. You tap on your you know like eyes cloud account at the thing at the top. And what is an official name for that?

By the way, it's your picture. No, I am sure there is an official name for IT. I don't know what that name is. Yeah yeah.

You you're account at the top of your iphone or whatever. And then there is a sign in with apple there and that will show all the signal with apple account that you have and then you can tap on them and you can remove, remove one. Be careful with this, obviously, because if you remove IT, you're not going to be able to log into here. Whatever account you I don't know if you can restore them. I have haven't done any researcher on, but anyway, I removed the account and then IT gets really fun so that I went pat the APP, and I was logged in.

what? Yeah, so I had logged in .

in the background. So I think what happened was when I hit signed him apple, I was just going really, really slow. So I don't know if my theory is maybe this is the morning that they activated this feature in.

Everybody's like trying to get their coffee going in the morning and maybe the servers are related and just going really, really slow. So I think IT actually had either logged me into my old account on the new system, like created IT and log me in or with IT all happened in the background. But now i'm like, well, now I just told apple I don't want to use the account. So now what do you do.

huh?

And signed up, having to delete the APP and start the process all over, and then waited for you to create the account, which took about a minute, minute a half, which was really weird. But I finally did IT. I finally got my coffee reset up, but I had to rename my coffee mug. And like all this, IT was not not a great morning and probably not a great time to do IT first thing in the morning when people are trying to get their coffee warm.

But so, yeah, that's right. yeah.

But I learned a few things yeah.

so that I had no idea about that list of sign in with apple accounts. That's that's super handy. Love that. Yeah, yeah.

yeah. I'm a singing. It's on the mac too, I mean, but I know, but I am.

It's on the mac as well. We should never in the same.

in the same area.

but .

let's .

isn't. Yes, IT IT, I see you've got a dig one one layer there.

okay. And then what's next there too is you can see you're hide my email like email. So I would imagine that would come in handy if I because you'd never really have to reset anything like in terms of like reset password because you don't technically have .

a passport to start your much for yeah ah yeah yeah, yeah interesting.

And I just something at the top of mind and now says, share your accounts. You're sign on with apple accounts can be shared with your family members and close friends using the password APP.

Oh yeah, of course later. I mean, it's just a log in like any other then and you can share all of those. So yeah, that make sense, that make sense.

Go go fun. Yeah you like that. Yeah i'd looked the Ambering g does the new one? IT seems to be about the same, they say. And our a half for the ten hts and in eighty minutes or something for the fourteen out.

So yes, yeah, I wish I was a little bit longer, but I understand you don't want a huge battery. And there, I guess. So I mostly near the coasters. So I for a while I did have to add one in the office and one in the house that made a little bit easier. But they kept breaking, like I said, these little pins, they get crud in them and then they get stuck down and then they don't work and you can't really clean them out. I don't know, this is i'm on my .

third t hot soapy water .

doesn't fix IT do no, don't watch your electronics .

and hot soap. Y water that was that was a joke. Uh, right. Um let's see. I we have some questions. I okay, before we do the questions, I want to take a minute and thank everyone who's premium contributions have come in, in the last couple of weeks because it's been a couple of weeks since we've thanked you folks. And of course, you can always learn about this at magic up outcome slash premium IT is optional and very much appreciated and really is a part of the kind of the the revenue stack that allows us to keep on the show.

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You rock. Cheers indeed. All right. Uh, let's do some questions. I have apple did some announcing this week, by the way, apple said a whole week of releases IT IT turns out and we're recording this on friday. I am not sure if there has been an announcement for friday, november first. We are not seeing IT as we're recording this, but um the fourth quarter results for thursday prior to that were m four macbook prose um the uh m four pro and m for max chips in the um lots of things, including those uh the new mac mini and uh the new m for imac as well. So it's and the hearing stuff is coming to uh uh airports project 2 as well。

Yeah just want to do things in the focus was also apple intelligence ence. And the only everything I mentioned on this, we don't need to spend a lot of time and IT. I've found an interesting that this rolled out so they did individual videos throughout the week, I think, for each little announcement.

So IT was sort of the apple style announcement where they're flying through apple park and do at all things and and people talk about all the features so you can check all those out. But I was like this weekly all week roll out where each day or couple days you've a announcement in. So IT was a mini kind of little .

mini keynotes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I like IT. I like IT. Joe has question about, uh, the new mac mini. He says all of the new m4 proverbial of the mac， many with twenty four gigs around in a two terribly sd uh, delivery is supposed to be no very, perhaps sooner. I have a question he says would like too.

I sort of like to do a relatively new install, but with the A P, F, S split volume approaches that spend there for a while, is there any reason to do this? The system will be new, but I will be on its own volume. And seemingly all I have to do is then copy over my data.

And am I good to go? Not sure how up registrations in such might go through. I am done and upgrade to my existing mac h since A, P, F, S came out. So i'm a little fuzzy as to the best approach. I can reinstall the ABS in such, but not really sure if there is a need with how things work now ah what would your advice be upgrading from my twenty seventeen macbook pro to this new um this new in for mac mini? Adam, if you were in that position, what would you do?

What sorry, what is a question? The question .

is he's got this new and for mini coming, he's got a twenty seventeen macbook pro that he's migrating from or or will be kind of moving from this too. What what migration path h should he take to get his data and ABS and all that stuff on the new one? Which one would you? Yeah.

I just would do kind of the standard thing. You know i've gone over the network. I mean, there's the question about the physical of .

IT or just the I think the question is do we start fresh? Yes, start fresh or use migration assistant .

or I would just use migration assistant in whatever way, shape or form um you know independent on how past you wanted to go, right? You have the options. But I just generally just do the default, which I think is just over the network near local news k these days, right yeah so yeah simple stay for IT. Is is the concern just the age the the gap sounds .

like yeah that's what that sounds like, you know um he said without giving much context that he'd sort of like to do a relatively new install but isn't sure if that's necessary. So I I understand being on the fense about that the idea of a newton pave every now and again is attractive. But I think migration assistant has gotten to the point where it's not as necessary as IT used to be.

Yeah, I mean, I guess there's a lot of like graft that could be in there. You know one of the things that if you if you really concerned about the craft and stuff like that, I think the the approach i've taken more these days is to spend a little extra time with your existing system in doing some premium tion clean up.

So like if you know there's like i've got all these apps that I don't use anymore, right, run those through cleaning my mac and like just get them out there ahead of time. Or if you know there's like maybe old preferences in data and stuff like that, that you don't want or need, like clean that out. I feel like that Better time spent than the amount of time you would spend like doing the new can pave thing and then I mean to like add everything from scratch and like if you're willing to go through that, that's great.

You know like but and and maybe you need that. I guess that really depends on what place you're in. But i've gotten more and more to the the position of like if i'm not having issues with my existing system, then really what you're talking about is you're wanting like maybe clean up old garbage so just do the house cleaning first, like do your spring cleaning first and then my great.

huh? I like, i'm processing this. I like this approach. I I might add one step to that before I decommission the machine if if i've migrated from one to the other. I trust migration assistant. But you know, we live in a world, but we don't have to.

And IT could possibly miss something, right? We don't get a manifest what it's going to go, right? So before I D commission a computer, I often will save an image of the hard drive to what I considered, like cold storage, like off to my nas or something just in case, so that, you know, six months or not, like we, where is that file? Oh, oh, and then I can go back and, you know.

hopefuls find IT. yeah. So I guess I, I, I have all those backup that I do, right? You know? And we've talked about these things like I use cro saying on my critical founders with a one way like, so where IT doesn't sink delicious and I use backstays, which has versions that go way, way back.

I have time machine. And yeah, these other things I do after I migrate tend to not immediately reconnect. Every backup system will usually like leave a one clone backup off for a few weeks or a month.

There's so and just rely on, I mean, I have enough other backup like I said, like online, back up, I have, I cloud have all these other things. So I feel like generally safe and doing that. And that's kind of my oh my gosh, where's this thing? You know, I have a goal.

Usually picked my caron copy lower back up is usually the one that i'm like, okay, that's the last. That's this, this computer in the state the day I am migrated, right? And then yeah .

because if I can like .

clean off the old computer so I .

would have that back up if you're going with you on the image, if yeah, you're gonna do the image path. I would do that before I started my clean up Operation, right? And in that way, you know, if I over cell lesly cleaned, okay, fine, it's all over there.

But otherwise, like, I kind like that idea. The only. I will, I have warned up doing nuke and pbs in the not too distant past, and they generally go much faster than I expect them to, because so much of our stuff is thinked.

And so you email in my documents once I installed the right abd you know can figure things. It's just all sort of appears right, like it's installing apps and you know how many apps do we each use more than you think way you think but um you know it's it's not it's going to okay. So I think it's within the last year, you're in a half.

I've done some milking paves. It's been okay. Usually the day I get a new computer is not necessarily the day that I have time or the week or the month that I have time to do all of that looking in paving.

So i'd like your idea, yes, spend a little time doing some spring cleaning. And then off you go. I mean.

he has a week he has done over. He doesn't even have to do IT all in one day. That's like the computer doesn't show up for a week, right? We could start this process now IT.

Yeah, yeah. That's the thing .

that I will say about the new campaign is I mean, and I have gotten caught with that because i'm reinstalled apps and there's some apps that I only use cordery or once a year, and it's like I go to do that thing and it's like, where's this APP? Where's the data this APP? Oh no.

oh no. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. So yeah, yeah. Because if you just do a new campaign, you're probably not going .

to your applications folder like checking all the apps. That's the other other thing about that prey clean up as you can actually like, oh yeah, there's that APP. I don't use IT, hardly ever, but I do use IT.

Right, right?

I I mean, i'm old, my memory, he's got bad. I forget about things.

And we also have these devices that are perfect, and I say perfect replacements for our memory. Our memory is fallible, right? These devices, when used properly, have an infallible memory.

So why would we, anna, even try to remember stuff when the the device can just be that? So yeah, right at wardo has a question also relates to apple's uh, week of announcement. He says today am living with a sixteen and m one macbook pro and a studio display.

I'm happy with this set up, but I want to add a new extra monitor and I also want to add a dst mac to take on my automation and act as like a plus server backup PS for me and my wife and everything else that I can think of throwing at IT go. The thing to think about is, and I Better off buying a studios display and a mac mini m four or an imac m for what are your ideas the cost differences about the same um or isn't too big. He says the main goal is to have a machine that will last a long time.

So and he says he's been listening since twenty eleven, which is amazing. thanks. So that's fantastic.

Love that. So there's not that big of a cost difference in with how he's speaking things out. He's yeah. Tough one. I, I I think I would in this, maybe my all the eighty's component stereo is coming back to me.

But like I think I would go to the studio display mac mini out because now those things are independent and you can upgrade and swap them out and deal with them as separate pieces of technology. I love the foreign tor of the imac. I think it's gorgeous.

But I feel like more and more these days like having that option to like swap things out of, swap things around. Mention cy has a max studio already, right? I think he said so IT just IT feels like that would be the Better way to go if if the Price is not dramatically different and the fact that apple doesn't let you use and all I make as a display still hurts me.

I, I, I was all in on the imac train, right? I had an imac in my office. I had an imac up here in the studio.

And they had replaced IMAX before them, like I was all in twenty seven inches of five k. Goodness, right? You bought the display and you've got a free computer, a attached to the back of the right.

And I love that when my imac unceremoniously just stopped working, the display actually is what broke on on the imac that I had here in the studio, the ninety and two thousand seven eight core I nine IT was doing great. And then suddenly the lightning that hit way too close to the house decided not to let that display work anymore. And I moved to a max studio at that point with a separate display of get, the phillips twenty seven years display.

I already had moved in the office. I want up having a deal with. Somebody traded me. I had a domain me, and they m one fully dicked ed out mac many, and they offered a trade. And I said, sure, the eight dollar domain that I bought that i'm not going to use paid off, wo you so so I I moved in the office to and now i'm i'm completely uh detached from any iact dependence and it's wonderful.

I mean, I still have two IMAX sitting on the floor of my office because IT kills me that, you know, one of them is a fine server computer with whose display doesn't work, and the other is a fine display whose computer is, you know, too old to be functional. And I just need to let go of that and throw the dispose of them appropriately, whatever that path is. But IT IT urk me that I have like that.

These things aren't separate. And so I am off of the imac train now. I and apple, if apple had continued to offer twenty seven imac, that's what I would have bought in the studio to replace the I mat that was here.

But they don't. And I am convinced, and I might be wrong about this, but I am convinced that for myself, the twenty four ign screen would be too small. I have two, actually three screens here in the study, although one of them just sits behind me with our logo on IT when we do the show. But 灭， 灭， i'm very happy with the component stereo model again for a test top computer .

yeah and the only last thing I want to say on this, as I feel like we as a community, especially since apple is always on about their environmentally initiatives, we should be way more critical of them not making that a feature. The imac, ric and all the imac can be used as a display because they have a long useful life. They wouldn't have to be in lantis and in junker, recycle or whatever you do with them when they get old. If apple would just I mean, I can't imagine that there's any massive technical limitation or cost to allowing that to happen.

It's fair. And and as paul on away in the chat pointed out, lina luna display from extra pad will turn your um your I think you can turn an imac IT showed up with the ipad one yeah but it's imperfect but correct IT does this work like let me plug in the thunder .

boat cable and make an Esther's display like IT can happen. IT could be a thing. IT can be a physical connection without latency.

That's amazing. It's a they're gorge. Like you said, they're high quality, gorgeous displays. They are just being wasted yeah literally wasted when someone replaces IT.

Yeah I yeah yeah yeah yeah yes. And that does .

not fit with their environmental statements like it's in direct in opinion direct contradiction to that.

Yeah not wrong. I hadn't thought about IT from in those terms, but yeah, yeah, you're not wrong, huh? Well, I am free from from mostly free. I say that I am free from IT. And in the same breath I say that I have two IMAX sitting on my floor or am trying to figure out how what to do with land from.

But like.

I know.

I know I like that you're proving my point. I prove point. If one of those could be used as a display, the one that still is working, yeah, you would use this as a display. I'm sure you would find a place to use IT as a one hundred years or give IT to somebody who need right.

Yes, I would wind up having some utility. I wonder. Yeah, you've got me. You've got me thinking now I .

think somebody made A A kick starter hack where you can like, but you have to go in and like sadder stuff, like it's not it's not simple, bit like you can right to IT. So I know I can be done technically yeah, come on people.

I got to dig into the lunar thing because I feel like that might like for some purposes here, I might get some great utility out of, out of that, right? Let's see. Let's answer Terry's question was sort of, in fact, kind of perfect. So let's do terrorist. And then i've got some cool stuff down that I saw a pet come to OK.

Yeah, Terry says, where has all my free space gone? You mean .

at the song .

and where here's all my free space long time missing. Where's all my free space gone? 那 can't store any stuff。

We we you and James dempsey need to collaborate here.

I think we're probably a good copy rates.

so it's true. Yeah ah facebook and youtube were going to yellow us. Now he says.

I have an image that has been eating up free space and I cannot figure out where it's going. No, no. I had been working with about twenty plus gigs free space, which was pretty stable at that level until about two months ago.

I use clean my mac to periodically clean up the junk, but once I get IT back up to about twenty eggs, free space IT is quickly eaten up. And that free IT quickly, free space. Until now, I only have about four point five gigs free.

I also did a Michael s reinstall several months ago. And after that I was back at twenty five gigs of free space. Then the free space disappeared.

I've looked for time machine backup PS, but didn't find any using the TM, the time machine utility tool, looking at the local snapshots, which that would have been one of my guesses. I've deleted unused apps, not very many, as i've got my system where I want IT. I've room clean, my mac.

But as of today, IT only finds about eight hundred k in my free space is four point eight nine gigs. As you can see, the storage shows apps using four hundred and ninety five gigs. I cannot, this cannot be correct in the system, is not showing anything but calculating.

Well, mac car drive window shows four point eight seven gigs of free space. So what can I do? Install Michael s, again, you can pay help.

yeah. Ah, this is interesting. He sent us a screen shot of a the system settings storage window that shows these applications taking up four hundred and ninety five gigs in. My next step would be to go into, you know, the applications folder and get the size of the applications folder to confirm that is seeing the same thing.

And if you truly do have four hundred and ninety five gigs in your applications folder, what let's dig in deeper to do that and see where that's being used up, right? You you can open that folder and tell IT what is that. If you go into I think it's show in finder, show view options, calculate all sizes and then sort by size from largest to smallest and see what you've got in that applications further like that, given what you've shown us here.

That's the first thing I would do. I'm assuming when he says he runs clean my back, he's stacking about spaceless ds inside the my mac, which is really a place I would go to. And I i'd be curious what I know. IT says that IT only shows six hundred or eight hundred k to free up.

I would do kind of what I call the manual mode of space lanes, where I just let IT show me the folders on my mac that have the most things used, and I dig in and I decide what i'm going to delete and some of that comes with you know decades of making mistakes and deleting the wrong things and learning what I can and can't touch, but at least getting a feel for where this space is being used. Um the command that he mentioned, which i'll put in the shoots so we all have IT but the the terminal comments yeah to list all the snapshot is fine. I would use this utility to see these now because it's IT gives you a graphical of you and you can delete from there. Uh, there might not be anything that might not be the issue, but I like, yeah, so I would I would dig deeper with both with space land and just with finder, and start looking at where things are being showed up, died that kind of IT my, if I were there, what would I do next thing, what would you do next, if anything? Well.

I feel like you on to something with the I mean, he's mentioning specifically that is calling out application. And so where my brain went is there are a lot of applications that we've talked about these that store their data in a library file right yet within the application. So usually like a myc will like database or something like that.

I'm wondering if what's happening is he's freeing up the free space. And then there's one of these apps that in the background or when you're running IT is pulling down data from the cloud and like storing IT within that APP. And it's like, oh goody, I have a bunch more free space.

Let me grab more cash. Let me grab more stuff. Let me grab more.

I'm thinking about like podcast that have auto downloads in the podcast Operate. I don't know that those necessarily show up. I don't know where those show up. Like that would be a culprit or movies that were automatically down the united in the background or like and but IT must be if it's coming out of applications, my guess would be IT as some APP that he uses regularly. I king about like I use, I mean, this wouldn't eat up that much space. But like, for example, I use reader apps and I know a lot of those store everything in a library file and they easily have a setting that says, hey, pull everything down in the background. So when i'm offline, I can still like read all this stuff.

right.

right? And I will restore that stuff inside a database in the APP like it's within the APP container. It's not out there you know in the finder somewhere where the finders going to see IT, it's going to see IT. Oh, this up is you it's .

like apple data. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. dig. There's something thing is not something doesn't add up. And I I don't say that to be punny like something is not right because I I would .

assume the only other thing that I would think of is like I know photos, but I mean that that show that to you, right? Like I think photos when you launch photos will just use up whatever space. But like apple then calls that you like vegetable space.

It's like it's not really eaten up, but I will just grab everything. I wish you could kind of set some sort of limit, but I know there's you know apps that sort of do that in. So I don't I don't know.

Is this actually another question I would have this, is this actually causing a day to day problem? He getting messages that as he can store stuff? Or is IT again, this just the system doing its system stuff? And like, hey, i've got extra space I and use at all until you need IT, then i'll give IT back to you.

That is perhaps the most valuable question of all. I mean, it's good to be proactive about this. If you've got something that's not being managed by the system that is chewing up available storage, you be good that yeah exactly.

And again, this one doesn't smell like an apple thing. Like the fact that is showing that his applications are the thing is something's not right here. And IT IT might be the way apple is calculating this stuff.

IT is just not that is that is giving an incorrect interpretation of IT. I don't know, right? So yeah yes, I don't know.

Interesting, no interesting, interesting. I am I have some cool stuff found. I have some show and tell if you're watching the the video.

But but if not, that's okay. I I mention that I went to pet com. There was a company there.

I don't know that I had heard their name before. I N I U I in you and you. I think it's I always they are um making charges and battery packs and all of this stuff. They have been doing this for a long time outside of the united states and in our top cell er and amazon with this stuff with tuna reviews. I love the kinds of things that they are doing and the Price points that they are doing them at.

Kind of amazing to me that the the the thing the thing I want to talk about today is this um I N I U it's a three in one portable charging station that folds up kind of to the size of like a wallet. Uh and you unfold IT and it's got two hours. One half has a cheap ad on IT for your like a mag safe, a magnetic pad for your phone.

The other half has two pads. One is a cheap pad it's like for your airpower, and then the other is a puck for your watch. And the puck can stand up if you've got a watch band.

That requires that the full ability of this thing also allows you to stand the thing up so that your phone can be kind of a nights and mode. And it's thirty dollars. So this is a three and one charger portable, and it's thirty dollars on amazon right now and there's a fifteen percent coupon as of the moment that we are talking about this.

So like the fact there's a three and one thing that does your watch does mag safe, portable for less than like this is a you know, less than ninety nine dollars is an outstanding. And I used this on wednesday night in my hotel room. So I could talk about IT here in the show and and IT charged all three things I had to do, my watch, my airports and my, my obviously my phone and everything charged up like IT been all just worked.

I just plug this in and good to go. So yeah pretty i'm eager to see how this brand kind of makes its way into the U. S. market. So yeah.

what's the just curious, what is the voltage charging speed is that? Is that fast charging? So i'm assuming .

it's so .

charging be a deal here.

So yeah .

mean again, not a big deal if you're travelling and just plugged in overnight.

Well, isn't fifteen what the .

fast charge that is? Fifteen watch on yeah fifteen .

watch on the mag safe I thought was fast, but I don't yeah, but maybe there's maybe maybe things can go faster than that. Now I thought that I safe was, I thought they could fifteen, but yes, somebody, i'll tell us and I perhaps before the end of the show. So yeah, I was talked about this and they also have charging banks.

They were telling me something about how their battery technology allows them to make batteries that for the same capacity of the battery are physically smaller. And it's just something about the way they are engineering works. And they did.

They had, you know like mac, say, battery packs that at least were rated the same as one that I had. And IT was, you know I would say fifteen percent smaller. So interesting. Yeah.

apple's charger is twenty. Okay, commend charger for fast charging. twenty. Again, I don't know that there's a major right. Again, I don't get caught up in this stuff, to be honest with you because like si right on the park exactly like I don't care for charges in thirty minutes. IT needs to be charged in you know six .

eight hours right?

It's going to be like .

this stuff it's right. Yeah um I also saw something that sort of disgusting to talk about but a very necessary with all of us shoving things in our ears all the time. And I am someone who know I joke that I spend half of my life with inie monitors in but it's true like i've had him in for the whole show.

I will take a couple hours off and then I have a rehearsal this afternoon so they go back in. I have two gigs this weekend, so they will be in for those like, you know and then sometimes my airpower s are in and so that each shows all that ear work in. And cleaning our ears is a good thing. And I I have for decades been, you know, someone who safely a likes to keep my ears clean, needs to keep my ears clean. And I have tried out the the camera warned things that, you know, you pair with your phone, and then you can stick a thing down in your ear and like, scoop out the air.

The problem with all of those that I have tried up until the other night is that as I spin the thing around in my ear, the perspective of my phone shifts and i'm completely lost as to what i'm doing like I can see IT in there and it's like there's a little bit of wax i'm going to get out and then I try to move my hand in the right direction and I always goes in some cocky direction because I my brain to hand connection with my eyes just doesn't work when the the view keeps rotating on me. Well, bea board is making their year vision cleaner, and they range from forty five dollars. Would get you this thing at pairs with your phone and IT has a driver scope in IT so that when you spin IT, the camera view doesn't change.

It's like I knew the P. R. Rep that was working with them.

So it's like, can I see instead of years? And like, yeah and obviously he let me do IT, because unless you like a doctor, maybe have a lot of training, you shouldn't do these other people. But so I did IT to myself with sterilize thing.

And IT was like, wait a minute, like I can do this standing here on a trade show floor, this is no problem. And I was able to just like, scoop the stuff out. Of course, there was a crowd of people that were like, now we get to see inside dave's head, which was fun.

But you know um I really is amazing. A this thing is the best one that i've tried, and i've tried a lot of these because because I went up shopping wax in my years all the time. So I know you're laughing at me, adam, and I think your size .

is also going off. That's what I laughed at. It's ten am on the first friday of the month.

Of course, IT is that's right. That's right. But yeah, the driver scope in this thing makes all of the difference in the world and really, truly amazing.

So um and for forty five bucks, you know you can get a family kit and like the whole thing IT but but starts IT for forty six dollars is what IT is on the website forty five ninety nine for the for the one of the intelligent IOS cope which is the way you want to go for sure and and like I said, there's others with more stuff and features. But this is, this is the one you'd want. This is the one I want and i'm happy exists.

So very cool. I'd be afraid to use IT. Honest, sly.

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that damage.

yeah. No, that that is the right way to approach using these things. In my opinion, you absolutely want that very healthy fear of damaging ears. The good news with these things is you can see how far in your ear the thing is. So go slowly, be careful. And if you have if you get to a point where you're like stuck, stop, that's my, that's my advice with this but yeah, obviously, please don't damage ious.

Please give me my luck that the time the cat comes by a my elbow yeah.

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm eager. I have not yet tested out. Speaking of hearing health, I have not yet tested out apple's new um airport's pro feature that does that. But um that that like allows me to use them as you they call IT loud sound reduction or yourself something I call IT active earplugs. But it's my term right.

I could use that right now as a matter fact.

You good. yeah. I will say that those are podds project to which I wanted buying for myself recently just because I knew all these features were coming. And also my airports project, as we mention over the summer, kind of started to crap out on me. But those things like the tech and IT is really it's amazing how fluid the experiences walking around in cities is being on the train, being know the conversation of where is the adaptive noise canceling, where you can put IT in that mode, where it's sort of rides the wave of what's happening around you IT IT really kind of detaches me from the world while still keeping me connected where I need to be if they do a fantastic job with that. So yeah.

I realized I get to try this out this weekend because i'm actually I I never go to a concert, but i'm going to a concert this weekend. And i'm like, oh, I should bring because I would. I was for whatever reason, I think somebody went on a plane, on a trip or something like that, that they gave them the soft tip ear, you know, earplugs.

They were sitting on the counter, what I was getting my coffee before the show and like, oh yeah, we should have hearing protection when we go to this concert and i'm like, oh, I could use my new airpower D. S. Pro and try IT out so I I think i'm going actually going to do that and see how works but yeah, barracked ladies and told .

the what's rocket that's gonna a great show that's great. Love that those are have you ve seen either of those bands live before?

I have seen their naked ladies before.

Yeah, okay, ah, a fun sy ago. Yeah, yeah. Tote is also a fun ban life.

I think I ve never seen them. Yeah.

yeah. I think, I think they told together a couple of years ago too. And we want to have seen both of those bands here, new hampshire together.

And yeah, yeah, you're going to very excited. yes. Yeah whenever well, not whenever I I my concerts, but all the time I have on my watch face is the disable meter. So IT tells me what the ambient volume is.

And so I be curious as to what the ambient volume is that, well, the shows play me and you can do with your phone, you can watch the APP on your watch, whatever. But actually, and maybe you can do with your phone. It's only built into the watch. I think.

yeah, I think I don't know. I have that stuff. I have a series six apple watch.

Yeah, then they'll do so.

I IT would do that.

I may turn that on. yeah. I mean, you can just launch the there's an APP two. You'll shows you the noise level. Bit curious. You know most concerts cover between ninety one and ninety five is kind of where you'll probably find IT, but i've obviously been to some shows where it's know one hundred and five.

You want any of those for that link of time?

Correct any of them right this right? Well, yeah IT, yes. However, it's not just that.

It's the you having two hours of ninety db or ninety five db not great for you, but if that's all you're getting, IT is cumulative, right? So I like because I ve talked to audio engineers, like front house engineers about this, like you do, you mix a concert with ear plugs in and like, is that the right way to do your job? Or do you need to hear what that actually sounds like without filters? Eeta sea, right? And i've talked to audiologists and front of house engineers, and generally speaking, a lot of these guys, and including the ones that have been in the industry for decades and decades, they most of them mix without ears in, without your plugs in.

However, as soon as the show is over and before the show starts, they have earplugs es, into protect him from the know the noise, the crowd is often going to sit, but well above eighty db. Sometimes eighty five, like with house music on, you might even be at ninety db without a band even playing, right? And so the idea for them is protect, protect, protect t, so that you can use your hearing during those moments and know a lot of them.

I just had Robert t. Scovel, who was like, he is the sort of a list engineer he just finished with Kenny chinese tour. Just did I heart radio and rocking and roll hall of fame like he's the first call guy for a lot of these things and he obviously cares about his hearing and talk to an audiologist sees naught ologies regularly ly, and it's like, know you, he's lost a little bit because he's.

I mean, we all lose IT because we age. It's sort of a byproduct of IT. But otherwise, no like he's hearing is prety good but he's crazy.

Like I went and some mixed chesney and as soon as he had a earplugs like on the thing, he even lead over and told me he's like, look, i'm not going to be offended if you wear earplugs for the show and like robbert I was I don't care about offending you on this one. I was definitely going to wear your lives, aren't you use? Like no, but you'll see as soon as the show ends, I pop him is okay. interest?

Yes, interesting.

Yeah, I is more there's more to IT than just the limited exposure. That being said, please protect your hearing anytime you are able with loud muses and loud sounds.

Yeah, I mean, already have mild hearing loss and tonight, so I don't I don't need things to get worse.

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