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Hello, and welcome to the ham radio crh course podcast. Man, he is josh emar dio. Call sign K I six and A Z.

and i'm layer k six and W Z two .

weeks in a row. Let's go, baby. How do you do in this glorious evening in later, I guess? No, no, it's still evening, still counts.

I think you're coming down with all the kids.

I think. So thank you so so much. Children as.

oh, I got a really bad headache. And like, that's how it's started for and then I have to go, yeah, hawsses gone away.

Not helping, not helping at all. Hawa going, everybody. thanks. Coming on back to the m radio crash course podcast, we would like to kick off the podcast with the same radio minute.

It's never a minute .

I changed my tires today OK.

And while doing IT.

I was Operating ham radio. Yeah, you do everything .

while Operating home radio.

Now I Operating radio all the time.

I think you're doing a lot more Operating of ham radio.

It's true now that ham radio with me all the time, Operating ham radio more than ever. I have my .

doing single side band too.

Yeah, like on my, in my ear buds yeah, yeah. So people are really weird IT out now. They no longer think i'm just on the, because i'm saying in all kinds of weird characters and numbers and sequence.

they don't know what's going. That guy is a spy.

But now I met the point. So I ve, I got the flex going. It's all hooked up, got the APP on my phone, in my ipad and the laptops and all that stuff. I can I can no problem use IT. It's after there's tons of little proof features I ve never figured out yet.

But i'm now at the point where I want to start doing all the little housekeeping ish things like I want the ability to remotely just shot at all off, right? Cause you know, when you okay, you may not have this problem. But in her radio, we've all had this situation where we've got USB cable plugged in and we're doing something on the computer or something happens.

The radios is just not happy and you go to n key IT and IT doesn't want to untie. So it's just transmitting like right now, like it's just on and you can't like you're hit the mike button, it's not on key and you start to panicking like what do I do? What do I do? And you pull the power, take the power out, shot the radio off, doesn't hurt IT. Everything's fine. Well, flex radios are fine with that too.

That's what it's like with excel presides.

Just like control, delete, control, delete. Quick, somebody cancelled this thing. Windows has said its, stop responding so you can do the same thing with the flags bot, you're not there.

So how do you do IT? How do you do IT? So they make switch IT like a switch panels that are netware enabled.

So you can hit a button on a website, basically like like a remote control website, website that you set up for your home station, like they make home automation websites that you can build and access from your phone, and you can do little things on IT. And it'll connect to your home, your station, back at home. So you click this bun, they'll shut down everything to take everything offline.

Or in my case, I heard a dx station, but my antanas a wasn't pointed that direction. Well, they've got a solution for that too. They've got a network controlled router system. Turn your intern.

hear the rotor while you were sitting the out. So you're .

hearing the antenna elements moving the road. I haven't set all that up yet. I have all the equipment.

I haven't set IT up because it's a whole thing. It's another hobby within a hobby that I found. And this hobby is called remote ham radio. So I i'll be going down this rabbit hold for a little while OK. So enjoy .

that ride a must day.

And I would hope so. I would hope you enjoy me. Yeah.

somebody did a shark tour on rails.

okay?

You'll get a lot of ham radio videos.

never on real. I see him on tiktok, that which way more prominent .

tiktok and in between the brain rot of my video, somebody goes and is walking down this flight of stairs.

Okay.

into, i'm in california so I can only assume IT a basement. I don't know for sure.

the majesty, that is a the thing i'll never have. And so .

and he passes A A board of his call time.

Okay, right? So you need, okay.

I am like, what is this? And IT is just a room like the entire basement is a ham shack with. I'm pretty sure IT was five minutes going through all of his radios.

That's A Z and .

then I watched IT to the end, and then I said in the comments, nobody is allowed to show my husband this video. Okay, nobody tag him. How do I block someone from someone 娘 最最 的 样？ Does this feature exist?

All the honey, what you come home early and you're like, we have a basement now. I've been digging for three months while you all slept. Like it's called the ham shank redemption.

Oh, right. Well, I think that you want to buy a new house. Yes, just for a bigger home. Shak.

yeah, that's well, no, okay, i'm I think that I will. No, I can take all this fact. I got way too much stuff.

That's a fact, no question. Nobody at me, of course. I have too much stuff. I have too many hobby. I have. I need to a work space for physically tinkering with stuff and the Operating system to me.

You need to get rid of your prospecting gear. That's first of you. You're never going to a gold mine.

okay? You're not. If you're out of nature, what you're going to do is you're going to ham radio OK. Why do we even pretend you are going to be soothing for gold around radio?

They take up like no space. A lot of that stuff is getting shared. It's all get shared.

okay. Hear me out though. right? The main reason .

you just my yes.

I am, you're right. The main reason is for the antennas face. I want a house where there's like actually a space that I could put up in in tena tower.

I want a tower. That's all. That's a simple need.

Where would you have to live with that to be a reality .

somewhere with a big enough ard IT does not to be huge. Backyard is just not big enough. Our home is their fine size.

Even the lot is not that. And maybe a lots of little small, but you just need a bigger yard. You can put a tower and that's IT.

You know, I was thinking the same thing when I was looking at play structures for the kids, not kind of IT looked at a pool, not kind of fit on the backyard.

not our backyard, this small.

I said, danny, when could make that happen?

The problem with the pool in a backyard like that is just like you just get water everywhere. You have to, like, reinforce the foundation, the ceiling of the house, because the water started to, like, get up in, you know.

the ceiling of the house.

the ceiling wata ceiling at the top. Yes, this. You pant, yeah, all that stuff is is the the problem with a pool like that, you almost have to build down, like you have to dig down to put the pool recess in the grounds of water and splash up. People do that very crazy.

All right, way to go. Remote her radio.

I mean, I still want a tower. Regard this of a remote m rady or not, I still want a tower.

Doesn't matter that. Why don't you put a radio and your tower at your mom's place in solving, and then you just remote into that? The the problem is fine.

Now the problem with her, the whole set up there that he has is won. There's too many trees and he loves her trees. And to have a rotating metal thing around all those trees, it's just not going to work.

There's no clearance. It's not the same man of clearance. Second, she's like in a valley.

Yeah, not good for hamburger. We did live in front of her place. If not, yeah, not going.

SHE can barely get internet. remember? Cell one, just going to work there. Cell phone circles les.

like I can't even get down now. I think that's a mom thing because the same thing at .

a place in widely you think that just hurt she's that shang guy that you were. Do you member the song guide thing that ever have?

Did you ever see that? No.

did. okay. You, you definitely were in the social media craze of get rid of your microwaves because people thought that was giving their food problems.

No, I got rid of.

No, I not time about you. I'm saying the social media belief I got.

remember microbe because I keep .

going off with that. I've not talking about our microwave. I talked about the wos on the the internet who were getting rid of their microwave.

They thought the microwaves, we're literally affecting their food, and then they ate IT, and they gave them health problems, right? okay. So about this a little bit. Before that time, there was this mystic mineral that everybody started hawking online called shug y IT looks like malaita. It's like a metal's thing.

And people were buying little pym's of IT, and they are putting in on their like wifi routers, never telling them for checks them of the wifi radiation. People are wearing pendants called shang guy. It's like the Davis day of such a fun time. You know, I don't know who said IT, but there was I know i'm just got a bunch of the quote too. But for every like one piece of misinformation that gets put out, like the time IT takes to put out one piece of misinformation, IT takes ten times that the time to correct.

the ten times the amount of effort yeah.

yeah, yeah.

And it's like that's because he takes me no effort to put out yes.

why? What about what if you just like about IT that's so bad. I there has me nuts but hey, that's not why .

you came here or maybe IT is.

I don't know. Well laid was a trooper jumped on that grenade and she's doing her extra study.

Guess what? I'm not doing.

not setting a date.

I don't think.

Tell me, see what I did there. okay?

I am studying for my amateur extra exam.

Yes, you are.

I I think I was supposed to study the V E thing and then become A V E.

The V E S.

there is A V E T S is just open book.

okay.

But as anybody who has volunteer examine me now, I do not pause between my questions when I speed run as as to not psych myself out of the right answer.

When you were a kid growing up and like we're you ever given an open book test, it's a sm, it's a total life .

yeah because you have to know where everything in the book is. And at that point you already read all the headband.

read all, oh no, no, I know that wasn't direction was going.

It's like you've already studied to prepare .

for him to be open. No, you and I vatten different. I received one, I think one, maybe two open book tests in the entirety of my before college. College is it's not even like the same kind of test had a of of that's different oh no, never I never did ever .

oh no no .

so um I we had a couple and we were four warned about IT. I did very little studying for that because this open book so I would read the chapters but you know how you and I differ for reading? Like I will go slow but I will remember tons of detail so I take notes when .

I really .

yeah no I don't. So I would just IT was great. I would just roll in there.

And I just had to have a little clue on what the question was. I was like, oh, that was this, such as such chapter bone boom. And I was like, there OK.

I love that I never got that's why I was like you heard about IT always, always open book. Like people talk about the open book that I never got open book test. You got the time. yeah. Oh, man.

man.

I can get any have been a lot Better.

I don't I don't know that that's true because I I don't know how many ap classes you took, but I took and almost max load of ap classes. Oh, because I because I entered college as a soft more zero.

But I started working as a software .

at the school too.

And I did IT. I worked .

all through college fixing computers, you're right. But I raised a ton of money in scholarships.

and I took money in the form of grants that we bought computers with.

Also works in a bank.

I yelled a guy in a wardroom. Let's go about the y two k bug.

Okay.

well, I still, he was trying to sell shang guide to the teachers, and they did know would go out. I had .

internships.

I didn't intern. I was like a go. No, I did.

I entered a boy for a whole year. Yeah, kay, I take that back. I was actually the most international. You could be like, well, you just not stop you know that hold three month thing, how about you just go for like a whole year?

But one of the reasons that you get .

open book tests .

is in like things like A A pete .

literature quotes. Yes, you have to be .

able to and sometimes it's multiple books that you're reference.

Oh, yes, so I like that. Okay, there you go. That's fun. Like a little adventure.

yes.

I maybe getting a little delicious right now.

I didn't make that right in essay today, and psychic didn't. I didn't make him do IT his.

his, okay. He only wrote like three paragraph .

s that I saw. Oh, he was done by the time.

so so he doesn't write that bad. First of all, for his age, I think I think for his age.

well, we do pay for him to be in a writing class with somebody who gets close to iv school.

He was making outlandish claims about before her is I would you look at that? He was .

trying to use a cora know .

as .

a citation and like that's .

use the answers.

but that the user generated answers that it's not a valid source. My guy, he's like it's cora dot com. And I like I could go on cora dot com and go multiple oes are Better than corgis.

Yes, he used some, he used some quotation. And then then LED IT off with fortnight is considered an educational game. And then then you followed IT up with what was the exact like, because the exact line is really funny.

He didn't say one of the best as good as any. That's what he said. Fortnight is considered an educational game as good as any other. That's what he he wrote. And my a ban.

Do you really believe that fortnight is as good as any educational game? He's like, yeah, he teaches you strategy and like you've seen the games that they have you play at school, right? Or the game is mommy has you play? Are those more educational than fortnight? He's like, yeah like then you publishing say as good as any cause that implies that is equal to to go change that is like okay.

Then afterwards he was like, I really focused on the ethos and logo. So at all because you don't care about.

Wall, well.

because he's taking the debate class at school, right? So that's right. After gate, they taught the kids about those paths and logos. All right. So the first question reads of this amateur extra study.

Such a what you have been done for a couple of weeks now?

sure. What is the magical ude of the circulating current within the components of a parallel l circuit at residence? A IT is that maximum b IT was two times pie, times the square root of inductor and multiplied by capacity and sea.

See, IT equals one divided by the quantity, two times pie times to the square root of induction l, multiply yed by capacity and C, D. IT is at a minimum. It's at a maximum. I got that right. Like why is pie here?

Most, most of things you'll find in a lot of when you get to extra and they start hit you with the math, the math is more complicated than most of you have experienced. I also say that, but it's it's not that difficult and it's like the way he read that you can already tell that's like a lot of steps yeah to get to where you're going. Most of the equation you deal with, they are like one or two steppers.

And that said, okay, how can unwanted ringing an audio instability be prevented in an op amp audio filter? A increase both gain, and Q, B restricts both gain, and Q, C restrict gain, but increased e or d rec restricts cube, but increase gain. And the answer is b, restrict both gain and kill. And I got that right. What is you?

Well, so there's a show called start .

tracking and right.

all right. no.

So always restrict .

you .

if that is your answer.

If i'm always familiar with the turn, I don't remember that question. I obviously remember the game, but um i'm guessing they're talking about the q of an anti na, which is generally the usable band with before IT becomes you're out of the area where IT is a resonant a part of the circuit.

I just do case because but .

they're talking about an o amp. So then that's just the band with of the amp, the op amp there. Then OK.

The next question reads, which s parameter is equivalent to forward gain, A S twenty two, B S twenty one, C S eleven or D. S twelve. I got this wrong. I don't know what any of the numbers mean, but i'm gonna tell you .

what what was the question again?

IT was which which as parameter is equivalent to forward gain. So in the two port s which is scattering volte, parameters for linear electric networks are defined as eleven input reflection coefficient s twelve reverse gain, s twenty one forward gain and s twenty two output reflection coefficient.

Just remember that.

yeah, just put that in your your memory bank. What is the effect of aliens saying on digital? A silly scope, when displaying away form, a excessive blinking occurs, which prevents display of the wave form b. Calibration of the vertical scale is no longer valid, see a false gitty low frequency version of the wave form is displayed. D the way form dc offset will be an accurate, and the answer is C A false, generally low frequency version of the way form is displayed.

When there for what's you what was .

jane for dinner? Yes, I watch some that I didn't. okay. It's a real statement, I guess, which are the following. What is allies in that?

what?

IT does exit. okay. Next quest sampling theory m states that the highest frequency that can be unambiguously reconstructed is at half the sampling rate. And above this alienation occurs if one should sample twenty mega hurts signals of up to ten megahit. Ts can be reconstructed.

For example, if one supplied a twenty million hurt signal to the sellers cope, the siller scope would sample the very the same value every cycle, and the signal would totally disappear. If one instead supplied a twenty million and one heart signal, the signal would drift in phase with the sampling. At one hurts and false, one hurt sign wave would be displayed. That doesn't clear .

anything comfortable.

So great, which are the following, ensures that a Crystal assoiled or Operates on the frequency specified by the Crystal a provide the Crystal with a specified parallel capacity. b. Biased Crystal and a specific voltage. c. Provide the Crystal with a specified parallel inductor or d bias the Crystal at a specified current I got this one wrong, but the answer is a provide the Crystal when they specified parallel capacities ence low capacity, an important specification when using parallel resident resonant isolation mode silly memory aid provide Crystal with a cap is that five feels .

like four, but we can .

do one more. Which of the following H, F digital modes can be used to transfer binary files? A ready, B M tor, c por, or D P, S, K.

Thirty one. The answer is packed. Or I yeah wrong.

I packed was cool, expensive though. If you'd like to study along with layer, we highly recommend ham study dot org, a fantastic website for your free education in getting all three of your amateur licenses. And if you go there now and check IT out, they actually have licence pools for other countries. Now, did you know that? Yeah.

check IT out they do one other country.

I think portugal.

they are super right.

actually. I think that might be portugal, but i'm not exactly. And if they're of canada and mexico could be wrong.

But what was a real cautionary tale?

What is IT denMarks? The other one with all the the flowers, the poppies that p. Two lips, that's denmark.

right? Is IT .

pretty okay? The dutch.

okay, not to be confused with a german? Dutch.

yeah, okay. Do its eland. Am I right? Uh, we also like the gordon west ham radio test print books. Those are available on amazon.

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Let's get down to business.

Now the topic of today's is ham radio cheating. And for us to have this conversation, for us to have this conversation, I have to pause and play something for lay out very quickly so that you can understand. This is a very poor simplex or repeater contact.

About looking his ho and point is one five i've got to vive. And so like is.

That is with super S D X on that is amazing. So that was from a video I drop this week.

I was about to ask you, how did you get IT to clear the static? Because that is one of the most deterrent things for me.

So that is a three hundred dollar radio. That issue dropped recently among three total radios, all mobile radios, the fifty eight to eighty five a what transmittals receivers, I think they have a new audio processor.

Why would you want lower watts like fifty watts versus if you got to have eighty watts? Why would you .

just get the eighty water cost, size, heat, active, cooling? okay. Um in this case the door band. Yes, so is the why not just .

dull band? everything? You don't know me. Why not dull band? Eighty watts, one hundred every .

it's like you're setting me up to just with the easiest answers. So the dual band ers fifty watts, it's four hundred dollars on sale. The eighty five, what one is mono band only in its three hundred dollars.

And then the cheapest one is sixty five watts mono band, two meter only. So if you want the dual band actually go down in power because again, they're trying to fit in in a box. And if you're trying to be dull ban, that means you're got basically almost two radios and you have to have an appropriate power amplifier to handle both of them in the appropriate components.

First is if you just have a single three metre ban, you can put a little bit more power behind that, if that make sense. So what you we're listening to is a new audio processing chip that S E. Has put into their radios. I'm expecting to see that in or that similar technology in newer radio said issue will be putting .

out in in that.

That's what I did. I really good. That was the same guy talking.

Why do you have to click a button? Why does not IT just do that all the time? So save the space.

Yes, get interesting, interesting point. If you, if you, if you leave the button on IT will know out beats like morse code.

It's tuned her voices .

to IT removes the the noise, right? It's doing an audio processing, which we we don't know. It's locked on the chip.

It's probably some FPGA chipper something on those lines and it's doing all that work, right? So I I got a couple of interesting comments on that video. A lot of great comments, lot of people watching the videos performing prety well. And a couple of other things have happened in parallel that that i'm i'm kind of seeing a trend of people commenting that such as such thing is cheating or such as such thing is making hammer. You're not fun anymore.

We will await people think it's fun to try to pick the noise. So the word out of the noise, yes.

So let's take with that one. One of one of the comments I got on that video was, well, I remember when ham radio companies were about making the best quality receivers that they could and you would put the best quality and ten or you could, and they didn't mess around with all this audio processing stuff. And it's making ham radio too easy because we used to have to work hard for our contacts. So it's cheating was basically what the person was loving to.

I mean, cooking used to be really hard before all of the kitchen tools, and I not cooking when I use the kitchen mixer.

I mean, I I always miss you when you go off a couple of days to go render at the old beef, the old beef farm that we've got.

go to the grocery store .

that cheating, and that is not very peat towns and sons of you or j townson in sun. That's IT. There is a jp town's in j something town's in in sun. Jay chen, yeah. I mean.

I I do a lot of things in excel is cheating because I didn't write IT in a leger book.

cheating. Where's your where's your yellow legal pad? Where's your steno book? So that that was one of them was like, well, that's that's a really interesting thought.

But then I made I made a real, an instagram real and a youtube short of my time cooking in the turkey for thanksgiving. yes. And I had a little panning shot where I showed my phone doing the smart esty r thing to the flex. And I pointed at the antanas a and I pointed at the turkey, and I was like sitting out there.

listen to radio. You were working so hard on things, just slaving away, away, away, making that one dish .

slaving away. I smell out very smoky. I mean, you know, that was, that was my struggle. That was my struggle. And then somebody come on and on that you're a big cheater.

Now I know .

that most of these are tongue cheek, right? But where we're going to build to a point here. So you take the audio processing, that's a thing that's like real, right? But now lets its factor in your your favorite topic, which is A I so there is an A I voice processor that will actually it's actually very impressive.

You run an application on your computer. IT connects to the audio feed on your radio, the USB feed IT ships the audio out to an A I server, which IT does audio processing on IT and loops IT back to you for your ears to hear. okay? And IT greatly reduces the noise, much like you heard.

But you can throw any audio signal at IT. IT just has to be an incoming audio stream into your computer in some form. IT could be like the internet, for instance, right? IT could be a youtube channel, could be a lifetime, could be whatever need to do this auto processing.

So all of these things, right, are getting to a point where having that audio processing on a chip, for me, asia is huge, having your phone being able to connect home to your hf station or just have your hf station with you and still use your phone to interface IT and then have the ability to, if you had internet access, once you want, you bring A I into this, at what point does IT become cheating layer? Is that cheating at any point? Is there no point what IT is cheating?

The evolution of every hobby is literally about just getting your end goal closer and easier. I mean, I I used .

to .

do a lot of crafting. I don't have as much time to do IT anymore, but you literally have stores like hobby lobby, Michael and johan's that are just fully dedicated to taking all of those hobbies and providing you with tools to make IT easier and faster.

right? Like it's really funny the weird parallel that we have to this is my mom telling us about grilling stuff yeah and the technology improvements in quilting.

the number of things that we are able to buy .

her now it's to make IT so much fun. It's so interesting to hear her, an older lady, talk about these like tech upgrades that they're getting and are like .

sewing machines that, for instance, where, like you IT used to be, that you had to hand cut all of these, all these pieces to put a put together right. Then they got lottery cutter, so no more scissors, fantastic, right? Then they got cutter where they can just die cutters, so they're just, and they can turn out a thon at a time, right? And that allows her to get to the thing. There's literally nobody who's singing the going. You know, my favorite thing about quilting is cutting OK.

I I thought that the backing nobody likes to do the backing sure.

backing to whatever. Now they just send .

their quilts to somebody who does the backing form and they ship IT back home. All backup.

sure. It's I think it's the the um the large free stitching that right. If you were to tell me that the thing that people enjoy is trying to pick the numbers and letters out of the noise of static, I would be flawed. But i'm also not somebody who likes fishing, right? Like I could imagine the same type of person who likes to sit in a freezing cold iced tent.

two fish getting .

upset that they now have stoves to keep the tent warm and T.

Now so the other example then, so here's another one. So I made A I was years ago now I was in arizona in a hotel room with a very compromised in ten window. And I made a single sideband voice contact to japan.

And IT was during the ww worldwide, or sorry, the worldwide C Q worldwide contest. So this a contest now, right? We're talking about contest.

And I I don't believe they actually heard my transmit signal in japan, right? So what I think they did was I think they used a local software to find radio web sdr. So you track them.

So somebody in japan is on a website, r that is physically located in, say, denver, or even you talk where I was at. No, I was impressed at arizona. And then they're listening to that internet audio feed for american stations and then they're making contacts with those american stations because they have a big powerful system, big, powerful in tennis. Is that cheating?

I mean.

I think by the rules of the contest that was cheating. But I know.

I know, I know the kids. I don't think it's cheating. Water, the ham radio rules, I don't understand how is that cheating? And I mean, I OK because so contest have rules yeah because you're trying to equalize as much as you can. So that is a fair competition, right? Yeah but Operating ham radio, why why would anything be considered cheating?

Oh, if you're just talking, just you Operating radios, not cheating IT. Maybe a little paid to win in some cases but winning is also subjective because there's no like .

what is the goal of hammer radio? It's to make the contacts .

right um I guess that would be the most base I mean.

like IT for me in my mind and we just finished watching twenty eight days later. Yeah for me IT is so .

I mean, you are .

a hobby and radio Operator, I am a prepared as ham radio Operator ended a very reluctant podcasts hos like, you know do you know him saying so for me, anything that would allow me in a comes down situation to be able to communicate? Why would any of that be cheating?

So it's it's not in the most traditional sense, right? In the simplest reforms. But there is this thing, okay, it's called the D. X century club, right? And you basically get IT.

If you was IT make a hundred context, I think if i'm remembering t correctly with uh hundred countries, okay, so once upon a time your only way to earn that was to do with more scope. And then A M came around. A M was not going going to be your way to do single site to get OK.

D, X, C, C. You cute. But it's like it's hard.

Then single sideband came around and it's true that single sideband is not as a fictious as cw more could to talk about many times, right? But it's definitely easier. It's more approach able for most people.

And so the number and the amount of people who've gotten their d cc award, which is it's a it's like a paper award and it's it's an award that you got like you earn IT OK. I don't have anything above you because I have IT, right, particularly if you don't care if you're prepared this hand radiator than you really care. But then so he got all these people, moscow, dx, cc.

We looked at them like, wow, good job. Not really difficult for somebody who knows cw, right? Particularly back down when everybody is on cw single sideband harder. But lot of people getting on single sideband. And because they just became that became the most prevalent Operation mode.

yes.

Then the microphone Moore coche, then after eight was created. Okay, now F T, eight, as you are well aware, uses your computer. yeah.

And your computer can hear Better than a human being. sure. So IT hears, weigh down deep in the noise so you could have an apartment, H, F.

Station, and where you would make no single sideband contacts, even to the point you might even not here, human beings talking, you can do F T A. No comments. I've gotten as well call F T A cheating because they earned their dx cc on single sideband.

What are the rules? Get the D X C C.

Hundred contacts. And in a hundred countries.

all right, if people are so upset, create your own award that is restricted to whatever you feel is .

acceptable. Are there you go? There go. Just so the area has said, you know, F, T, eight counts that works. And yeah, there you go.

So just create your own award. What like? What does that matter? What what are what words have to do with anything?

It's everybody, sure. Okay, everybody, to .

create your super difficult to achieve radio award. I mean, like look at. Oh, okay.

So ham solo, for instance, ham solo has a distinct advantage over everybody out. Yes, cheer. yeah. He .

travels. He travels to .

Operate all states, right? So he's not paying to travel to you is and obviously absolute .

biggest.

of course not.

I mean, you're talking to me, you know how you feel that a lot of this stuff, but I find IT so interesting that people, they get all campy. You know, campy is the wrong term. That's like a, like the room, it's a movie thing. Like they get so tribal, a tribal ism that's the term thinking of a where they're like they find their thing and they like, i'm going to shame, shame, shame I earned .

mi IT threatens the sense of identity they get from that accomplishment, right but that's that's one of the reasons。

But why like personal problem? sure.

But that's one of the reasons why you can be completely and a huge problem with today's parenting and and raising of kids is everything is about these awards and competitions where it's got to the point where every kid gets an award at some point in the school year, at least in in our schools. So so oh yeah.

because IT becomes a good .

at .

Better get IT at .

the beginning of the year are the actual award.

But some of the words are also just like, okay, what what's the one that just like this is nothing.

I think bang got rights, sly responsible like that.

What is that and that?

And some schools literally only give character based awards. They don't do, you know, a radical reader, or like math wizard or whatever. They don't do those, right?

I should have never started telling him about forty k is now he's calling everybody everything's herrick try to think the empty, the empty.

But this is the problem where everybody feels like everything they need to do needs to garner some kind of outside attention, right? Like that the value of their accomplishment is based on a third party bestowing that accomplishment .

up yeah the value comes from others.

not from themselves, right? Where as the ben got a bit of this and i'm trying to like work in through IT because band wants to get into my um my old high school, which is very difficult to get into, is one of the best of the nation. And you test into IT. And honestly, these kids are up until two I am doing home that's not right on top of all of the other things that they have to essentially have created a business nonprofit, get out not off of, and already have a career in the major they want to major in, right?

I have a career .

in the majors.

going to have a baseball contract.

You want to go to come side. You Better have already.

And then I want to see your good job.

You don't mean so there's a lot that they have to do. And so I I was telling them like, why do you want to go right? And he basically is like, because it's it's the best.

And i'm like, but your point of going to school is for you to get the knowledge you need to accomplish your goals long term. It's not for the accolades that you got into the best high school. Now there's a lot of reasons to go to like very good high schools. Don't get me wrong, obviously 是 i believe in going to very good high schools， right? Because of the people you are surrounded by, not not because of the accolades that are bestow upon you for for being admitted.

I heard school had a really good auto shop.

I mean, in order to run to school like that, you've got to strip all kinds of programs though like .

that school didn't have that was you?

There's no football team, right? So there were no friday night lights at our school. If the friday and tight lights were on IT was probably somebody in journalism working on the newspaper or banned staying up practicing for the rose paris, right? Uh, but for a lot of people, they get really tied up in the identity of having a third party acknowledge this accomplishment. That's how they know that they are in the upper ashland of needs.

right? I mean, how most of our society is built on that. And so like whatever IT is you do.

the perceived the lowering of the bar devalues their accomplishment.

right? Yeah, I mean, that's exactly what this is, not the point of this, right? So even as radios have evolved from being too based into solid state semiconductor, right, people like all the receivers are too good.

Now you can hear too much. It's cheated. I got, I got mine. And now don't get me wrong when you're talking to somebody and they give you something like I got dx C C on single sideband, then you go like, oh, that's that's an accomplishment good for you because we we know the difference, right? sure.

Or just out create your own award. Create your own award. Go give the A W R.

L an enduring, okay, raise enough .

money so that whatever the prize that goes with the award is, or how very much IT cost to run the program OK, right? IT runs off of the interest so that in demand is there forever. The interest and thing you can create the the the most difficult ham award. You must to Operate on a scouts Crystal radio that thank you with fever .

and you're a jerk to share the most difficult ham. There are. There are. And so there are so many awards like this, like there's one that is worked all states on six meters. So the fred fish memorial amaze award, if that is incredibly difficult.

difficult thing to get. Now the reason that I like awards though is if it's something that you're into and it's giving you a chAllenge to achieve, i'd love that, right? But you can they so the A W else, like hundred contacts and you're good.

Don't be mad at how people get there. There's also go go push yourself to accomplish something else. That there is .

your familiar to all states, right? Table has that right? You can get workout states very quickly with ft eight, but they delineate to like you. You can show the difference like work all states. You can do work all states on just one band, on single side band.

Could you simultaneously get worked all states as well as Operated all states.

like in all states? Yeah like because inevitably states in all states.

no, no, no, no. As is what have solar is doing, right? Like he will have Operated in every state, activated, uh, a poto or soa, I think right in every porter in every state. If he makes a local contacting every time, he will also have worked all states, right?

Uh, yes, yes. By the factor, yes, yes. I see what you did there would would be funny though, if there's just one state that didn't have any state parks that they were just like now that's not for us.

You do national .

parks in no nationally have the state. This is road island. I was going to say how I was going to say what in the road island? You don't be logged here.

Take your coffee, sir of and girl. You're auto track coffee and go. It's delicious.

I could visit. I was Brown. I look for auto.

So so then so yes, right. Like you're totally right. Like as things get easier, people like, well, i'm just going to do this harder like hamas as a good example of that, that I don't know that there's can be many people to do what he's doing, right? Like I know there will be right, but that's a tough one because you physically have to go yeah, I can get a Better computer to fix this problem, right? What if I just shipped my flex radio all over the country set up, and I I either and I internet into IT?

You'd really have to trust everybody I know have pay someone.

then I have to go. So they've gone from working all states.

right?

What if you just paid him solo? I paid him solo. I've been to the .

frog.

So now there aren't like they have work talk counties that's a thing. People achieve that OK in the country. We're all counties.

I don't know how that's possible.

Yeah, they're pretty. Some of my heart there's work all grid okay like every grid scores yeah that's why single day island is so thought after yeah because there's one guy this.

Only one guy.

He's that he's the guy. So that's why that what's .

interesting, i'm gonna selection day from select. I I think .

we all did. I think we all put that in our log. Does that like somebody where was I? I had I had the sweater on and oh boy, I had the long sleeve shirt on .

and somebody shock me with a catered to get that.

No, she's like where you get that. And like, I got IT in the store on sand island. How how did you get that? Here's you in the neighbor.

Did you bring back a fox?

Are you in the navy? And like, no so now we've just even i've got .

Carrier yeah ah and all I need is a kid or the kid can imprint on me. I will be best friends .

going to do deal flex radio in the fox box.

You keep .

what's inside and you send the box back. You know what to do when you get the box, okay? Put the box in the box.

Uh, IT IT ite IT was quite a interesting conversation because he was like, how did you know? How did you get? How really tell me right now? I like, well, I did.

We went out there for a radio saying, we are out there for field day. Bob ba, um so another thing of cheating, here's a really fun one. George came up with this from the home to work.

Bench is one of my favorite joke. E, over the lately, over the top. Somebody should do this, but it's so ridiculous. So the rules of field day, summer field day is that all your Operating stations, like your your rate doesn't stuff have to be within like I think it's a hundred foot circle and tennis everything, right? So hypothetically, you could erect maybe one or two in tennis and you could put like a pentel xer, try relaxer kind of thing where you have, like one hack spin multi band haxby in, and you have three radios connected that one in tena. But what if those three radios were all, say, IT with me, flex radios, and you had an internet connection to the flex radios, and then everybody just SAT at home in their air condition, homes and work first day from home on their radios that were at the field day location.

Where are the field day rules?

Just the radios have to be there. You don't have to be there. So then you just pay a security guard, maybe a couple of them, just sit there with your radios and then you sit in your ham shack.

Yeah, but you know what? Nobody would do that because they want to I know.

I know it's the joke of doing IT that's fun. You or everybody comes out and does their Normal field thing, but then there's just a flex radio sitting in the corner with somebody y's face like a face on IT just sit there do with this thing. He's not here but IT counts .

because you know what, I shouldn't be your face IT should be one of those like dancing and fish on the wall.

a Billy bus.

You have a depuis .

to your bike. You have a internet connects to your bike out. You're making context, fAllen up talking.

That is the way.

I got this thing screwed up and hit the wrong voice, macro, bot and other basis, only playing lebombo. There you go, ham radio cheating.

Indeed, why are you so mad? Hands of the world. We're back again at the haunted ham shack. The hog wild assaulted his seller. And then I spent a little bit of time trying to find one right now.

Well, I did find one, but josh said I could not .

use s of groups have gotten a lot Better at getting rid of some of these just flame posted people make but layers like, hey, just can we play this on the podcast? And IT was a recording of a converse, a lively conversation that was happening on seven thousand two hundred mega hts layer was, I don't think I talk about IT enough, but I know invention in the past, that is the watering hole of of fighting on the on on the air. That is the H.

F. Equivalent of the the home radio cesspool. We we couldn't .

play IT because of the amount of profanities and .

ballet into racism yeah I will tell everyone just as an foi, if you come out west like to california, maybe arizona, you thought that you taught might be too far east.

We don't get the same activity on seven or two hundred, say it's mostly to the east of you know i've noticed that when I when I want the east coast, I can get a radio sometimes tune seven that like different, different coins we go to and what not just to hear what's like go in on unless there's kids around and don't I don't do that. Okay, what? He got force this week.

So there was a really funny post. Okay, started out really funny. And was somebody saying that they got their dx engineering decals and they were really excited about IT, right?

And they have no idea how many stickers that company.

The um the comments are like all I bought those details ones they threw in A J U, something like the just like, oh yeah you know what when I bought mine IT came like a hundred feet of coax. And like and somebody else was saying, oh, you must spend a lot of money .

on that was deep out I um you will quickly across those details. They usually like two to three in a box. It's not even like one oh yeah and they're decently sized yeah so they end up just like culminating in your shack like you will pick up a box, it'll be a dx sticker or I slap on on the refrigerator, start put them on.

Things are just everywhere. They like local. That's the point. I know, I know they know what they doing. Tim, tim knows what he's doing.

But then this is not so much exclusively ham related, but IT is a common theme. Whenever anybody makes the joke you make, you make the joke of not telling me about the home radio, then I make the same joke. You know, I mean, I, but I I almost never.

I got one of those joke that was really heavy.

I kicked that one around a little bit. Yeah.

that way the tea ball .

bat was really. But in reality, I in josh, can buy what he wants to buy and will discuss purchases. Well, i'll discuss purchases with him and him sometimes with me.

I mean, i've mentioned that i'm looking something. That's my way. Yeah, that's my way.

sure. I've been looking at this thing. And then, hey, sometimes that just shows up. It's crazy how that happens. S.

so somebody commented though, I never get why some guys have to get their non ham wives involved in any of these buying processes.

Keep in mind this this is.

this is a comment on the D. X. engineering. Decal OK OK OK OK.

Did you ask her to marry .

you to be a wife or a mother?

Wok.

thirty plus years that I never get. Asked, why did you buy this piece or that piece of equipment? Just say.

So this is that whole like I don't want to say this guys of boomer, but IT kind comes across that way a little bit where your money went a little bit further that IT does these days, folks. You know that cut of thing i'm looking at at engineers that come at a college with masters ages and i'm like, good luck kid can't buy a house. Good luck you you got some other masters degree have you can book with for .

like five years oh.

you you want a date. H bud, calm down. You got a lot of work in .

ahead you reality the reality is you have these conversations out of respect to your partner .

well right, cause you well hopefully you all have a common goal of of living prosperous ly to to whatever level you find is is acceptable right or comfortable right and and you got to do that and sometimes by budgeting and we certainly now now dear listeners, when we were Younger, particularly before we had ban and we first got started out.

We we budgeted and we did all that stuff um and when we had band and we were a little bit more consciously as well. Yeah, it's only after twenty years of me being an engineering that i'm at the point where i've i've got into a place where i'm more comfortable than i've ever been. Yeah, but that took twenty years and you yourself you also have multiple things that have improved over time, but it's over time.

So somebody goes IT makes us feel like we're still a team if we have the explaining why you would have the conversation. And then the same guy.

I love IT double down.

always double down. Respecting each other other's likes has always worked for us throughout. It's like.

okay.

that that does that mean it's dumb to have the conversation with your spouse? You're spending thousands of dollars on radio.

What an interesting economy. He's almost showing his hand that he's actually not the persona he presents himself to be on the internet, right? Because if they have such a good like relationship where they know they eat, support each other, then it's very likely that he knows what he's up to, advice versa or maybe he's just not making purchases that are that outlandish and outside of each each others kind of comfort level OK, maybe that's never come up. You know, I bet you he doesn't go off and buy a car and put a red bow on IT and go merry Christmas like some kind of lunatic. But you he's not doing that.

The number of car .

commercials a choice, my favorite tiina, that's the one thing I missed about getting rid of. Well, it's not the one thing. One of the things I missed after not having like traditional television, which is random ads, is the lexus to remember sales of IT, where there's a lexus in the front yard or the big red boat.

I it's like, what did you do, honey? why? Why did you do this?

Yeah so I I always think that's an an interesting comment. Yeah you don't hate me and to come out and basically the the way that I was approached, I think the did you did you marry her to be your wife or your mother as though having the conversation would like.

I would definitely not necessarily tell my mom. So what is he eluding to?

I don't know.

But yeah, now that you put in that way, that is a little weird.

yeah. So that's this week. Hog wild in the salt .

of hamp seller, he totally eroded his point on on one stand there.

So yeah.

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it's so powerful.

so good. They build up, and then the the bees lay a, we are here at your prepared this corner every week. You dazzles with your prepared this tip, something to look out for maybe a hot deal in the space of sales. We didn't miss the black friday prepared in the sales. We didn't talk about that this year.

We did. That was last week.

black friday.

Yeah, that was I was .

I hear for that. Yeah.

we went through an entire shopping.

Oh no, the p that was that list of items. Yeah, I thought that like there wasn't .

those were black friday deals.

Of course they work because they're getting there hot, a filly, a dollars. But like, there was nothing that I stumbled upon really I didn't really look at hard either for items unlike amazon, anything like that. But okay, that not back with .

another shopping list though because things go on super sale during the holidays and everybody's buying stuff for other people. yes. So this week IT comes from huffington post twenty four emergency, preparing this items to buy for the older people in your life.

So this is a half. Poe post is, yes, wild. Yeah, I mean, remember half ingin post was created by, like john Carries wife .

area on a half ton.

yeah.

And how did you not know her .

name is literally the post. He's the high areas.

right area on a houton.

No, but he is the areas of high catch up and I mean half to be a major party liberal. I think it's still is. I mean, i'm sure it's still is. But the fact that they are talking about emergency prepares is kind of interesting.

So we're we're going .

to talk about this is just multiple phones that all just have button you pushed to call the government for help. The front is like a genter bug.

no. You're confusing your grandpa like other people's rapa. My grandpa would have a .

phone number that just had a button to call fox news and yelled m.

He was banned from a lot .

of jude was the facebook ail before. That was a cool thing.

He got a band from cnbc.

I think like and I will be like, he was getting banned like he didn't .

have .

bands like he did. He didn't have a side. He hated them all equally, equally.

His favorite thing to do was turn on the TV and yelled .

IT just loudly, yeah. And he stopped drinking. But the volume never went down. Just is a loud.

All right. So number one on the, this is an indoor safe space heater. I think this a very good idea. Burn your crap. The the amount of time my mom tells me how cold SHE is now she's like, when you get older, you get older.

I'm sorry, did you say an indoor safe? yeah. Space heater? yeah. So IT doubles as a place .

to put hydro. Valuable is for.

I thought you talk about like it's a fake. You are getting sick.

You are getting sick.

That's there are so many people who listen to the podcast right now like that's interesting. No one who think to steal a space heater, i'll hide my jewellery .

in IT now is .

to kill okay? You understand how I got there, right?

An indoor safe space heater.

You put a pause safe and space heater, an indoor safe space. Here there is an indoor safe space heater.

okay. So, uh, this recommendation is for the mr. Heater is a propane wer?

No, i'm still stuck on as a safe indoor space eder .

safe for indoors?

No, the writing of the title should safe indoor space .

eder save for indoors space here.

if you want to be extra detailed? Yes, but that would have not had the confusion.

Okay, the mister heater will actually heat up to two hundred and twenty five square feet for five hours on the lowest setting.

You funy is a fantastic channel called technology connections on youtube. He has done a revised update to his spaceheating ter video, okay, is fantastic. The dude is, the dude is every bit of the nd you want to subscribe to to go weight into the weeds and things that you would buy, like those those desktop ice makers.

He got nuts on those things. It's amazing guys, very impressive. So they go all right.

the next couple of ones. We've already to talked about high human tactical flashlight. And I think by tactical, they're saying that allows you to focus on a single spot flood in entire area.

Tactical mainly means like a spot to a modified flood, not a full flood. Usually mean it's adjustable is what .

you're trying to say, I guess so and an emergency hand crank weather radio we talk to about that last week. Next one is a passive gravity water filtration system. And this is the .

big burkey, the big stainless steal .

IT is but I think it's not the burkey. Well, it's probably .

not because isn't half bo headquartered in california and in the big .

burkey is not all the water drop and look .

like the I that is to rate up the big burkey?

Yeah but that's that's interesting because and I think the idea behind this list is if you are not in a close proximity to your elderly loved one and maybe they're not thinking about the things that they need in case these are like .

hand to mouth survival items, very little training, like just pick up and use right. Dump water in this mean.

come out the space heat ones a really big deal because if if you're your electricity or whatever runs your .

house heat.

uh, shut down that we know from the polar war tacks how catastrophic that can be for a lot of people do.

Yeah, without power, lot of those people did not have things to stay warm.

Yeah, exactly. And and if you're older, you may not have the luxury of even running out to get what were people using like terror t pots, bricks and candles, candles over a .

terra to prosecute radio heat.

So you may not even have the luxury to go and do that.

Or they were using the incredibly warm H R C C merge. Yes.

dawn and .

five S K T had like two of our sweaters on that's kept us warm, kept me a warm.

and I am so hard warmed by that.

Yeah, I remember that story.

Uh the pass of gravity waterfall trail systems. Probably pretty helpful, especially if that um that elderly person lives alone and um would not have an easy time uh doing the the work that would take to get clean water.

The passive burkey filter system is probably about enough to put for two people a family. How long you're going to you're going to delete that soccer.

That's what I was saying for the older people .

and life and they just it's slow. It's it's gravity fat yeah slow. sure.

alright. A large quantity of non parachuted .

food .

and it's it's lining out to already wise emergency food supply.

I think we've .

talked about this more than enough on the show. But if you are trying to and this is i'd like for your dad when he was, when he was living alone, I would always check to make sure his pantry was full when we went to his house yeah, right. And if he was kind of like lacking in something, I would buy a little bit extra of that to like leave, right? Uh but it's it's simple things that literally just require some water, like boiling water.

I am going to go on a limb here though, and particularly you're talking about an older person that is probably very familiar with cans and can goods and probably have eight a lot of food at a can goods. You're probably going to be much Better spent for your money. Figure out the cans of food that they consume yeah, the next time you're out there, go to the store by two hundred dollars where the can goods for them load up their shelves puts the mexico in the garage. They are going to be much more comfortable using that than figuring out how dehydrated foods work.

And plus the ready wise food is knocked.

And here's the second point. With the ready wise, most of the ready wise packed meals are not single serving their family size and you they're not good to eat like they're not leftovers type of food, right? In fact, there they're pretty trash leftovers they're .

you don't reheat this stuff even cup .

of noodles sure I mean solid right? It's it's survival food brand yeah or Edison food yes like kid .

snacks food yeah yeah do consider that though.

A lot of those those food buckets, they're sized for a family before like you open this thing up, you put water in IT and then you dole out for portions. Grammar is not going to eat four portions of whatever that is.

And I mean old meals pretty solid like I mean, there there are things that like instant .

old meal that's there's .

any number of things that you can load up in your loved one's pantrey that would not like would not go to waste either. One of the reasons people buy these ready wise buckets is because the exploitation data is so far out.

That's a thing about free to last forever. Sure.

I I am. Yes, ending you, but you don't want you're not canned food all the time. I mean, there's something to be said for Normalcy and being able to into emergency, go through your Normal routine. So breakfast food.

there's nothing about pouring boiling water in a my bag that streams Normal to me.

I'm not saying to do the mile back.

I know you're not, but i'm just reiterating the point that the food bucket.

sure cup noodles.

uh.

the next is electoral light infused water, not just a regular water. I M okay.

I mean, if that's like if they're only onna, grab a water bottle and drink out of IT. They're not going to wanted like take a packet and dump in in a water bottle, like the packets of electrical lights. I pack those in everything.

I like good. Oh, man, I put those in. Like any time we're about to go out and do something as a family or like drink one of those.

And you can do if if they are amenable to mixing themselves, make sure that they have the water stores they mean and have the liquid. But like what I V is or whatever.

almost everyone, those little statues you get little catches are um like one water bottle. They just dump IT into one water bottle still back .

up shake IT that's IT. And we talked about multi tools.

portable power station. Way, way. I don't want to skip over multi tools because I know .

my dad and I know .

a lot of older gentlemen, particularly ones that work with their hands, not that the dexterity isn't there that I used to be. Multitool are probably not going to be the friendly option for them. Tour box, well, like a, like a well appointed, but small, easy to Carry tour kit of hand tools that are not like regular sized hand tools, not micro tools that can pass. Okay, a multitool might work. You're going to have to know your people, obviously, but do consider that that they may not have the same excursion they had in the past.

And the next one is the jacket ary portable power station. Leave IT charged .

yeah um out I was going say no to this, but i'm actually i'm on board with this in the reason why is I bought that small jackey years ago and I I swear I only dragged that thing out a couple of times a year and I always charge IT back up before I put IT back on the shelf.

It's discharge for .

that's why that's why I will pull that thing off the shelf after not touching IT for over six months and it'll be over eighty percent sometimes ninety percent no like IT is actually pretty, pretty handy.

excEllent. okay. So uh, we talked about the water straw. They .

recommend a lifestraw, but we .

so okay. And then the the headlamps, of course.

definitely want to have .

a head solar power charging bank. That's especially for us in california because we get such regular son even in the summer. Um but that's that's not bad. Emergency seat belt cutters and window hammers. I think that's a pretty good .

one gram's god, a little, be any sure little smash.

grab be in out. Digital tire pressure .

gage okay sure sure yeah yeah okay.

I mean, remember, assume that the person lives alone.

right? But I know they pumped .

potable tire and flatter next yeah anti skid traction devices for tires. So we've come a long way once the typical chains, there are ones that are basically zipped ties .

that was can't work that well .

Better than nothing, I guess, especially if like you're not able to manuvred the the chain situation.

Give grammy a ganger this the season at the jeep to remember sales event. Don't forget to about leave IT in their front yard, the big red bow on IT care the crap out of .

a portable gas powered stove.

Parable gas powered the mutine fuel.

So i'm telling you.

if you're onna, go this right, go to your local china is supermarket.

That's exactly what they have. A picture of IT is the one that my mom has like .

six of for hard. Yeah, not even joking around.

I don't even know why he has so many honestly.

never get where they are at and then he just goes, she's already at ninety and he went, there are like, they're not even that expensive. Those cheap.

yes, work very well. Yeah and and those .

mutated fuel containers to crap those, they do not last long.

A pair of emergency whistle. Ls.

which yeah a an easy .

to hang indoor L D lamp, like one of these lantern types you love.

I love those are the solar ones. Yeah, like a little cube.

And I think it's Lucy .

lantern.

You you know really nice about this is it's much safer to use that. Then try light a bunch of candles, especially if you're gonna fall asleep.

right? So much safe, a rechargeable .

waterproof lighter. It's recharged .

USB is IT is that .

it's electric wind and waterproof lighter. There you go for state kid. We've talked about, but very importantly, my our blankets again, because you get cold easier when you get older.

A portable and rechargeable jump starter, which kind of goes with that whole car pack of the tire gage and tired and tired filter. Eighty four count, assorted pack of batteries, everything from W A, tribal a and nine votes. yeah.

A three pack of long burning emergency caddles their liquid candle. They can burn for fourteen days straight without creating smoke or suit. Burn on.

Let me see. And they're used able. So I am not reusable, but you just put the cat back on them and you can restore them to continue to use. So I will drop the link for this in the show notes so that you if you are buying for a loved one that could use a little bit of a hand in getting prepared, you can go head and get them prepared. Stuff wonderful.

marry. The me low, we want IT. Now the me know what is not. The members called the schedule and .

conceivable. And now our future presentation.

Well, the movie club came through big this week list. Listen, we watched the movie twenty eight days later.

nearly this this was a Kelly and Murphy banger.

It's it's a classic. It's really good. I think officially, layer had not seen this.

It's a very weird equal to twenty eight days, though center book wasn't even in IT.

Yeah, yeah. Now I will let everyone know a very interesting thing I discovered when trying to find this movie online. IT doesn't exist online, like there are dozens of edit posts spending multiple years of people asking, where is twenty eight days later? Why can I not find IT on my married streaming solutions? And I don't know the total back story.

Again, this is like redit rumor type stuff. But apparently disney lost the rights to twenty eight days later, and so IT fell back to SONY. And SONY has not licensed IT to be played anywhere. The only thing you can find is the equal, which is twenty eight weeks later.

soon to be twenty months later, date, years, months later.

They didn't make IT. They miss the opportunity. I am happened to have this a, this two pack D V D in the D V D covered.

And so we dusted off the duv, the player, and hooked IT up, and we watched a goodbye. So we have twenty eight weeks too. We might just watch that just for for the fun of IT.

Not the same type of movie. It's different type movie. All right. So twenty eight days later, killian Murphy finds himself awake in a, in a hospital. There is a lead up. It's kind of one of those fun movies where they give you the the back story in montage of what happened in for this zombie outbreak. Oh no, I take that back. They give you the whole lab scene in the beginning where the animal rights freedom fighters are going to free these monkeys that are changed up in in a very non lab looking lab is very dark, a lab very non medical looking.

seemed a underground sh.

seemed very hinchman like yeah like A A hinchman you know, place and and so they let this monkey out. It's a chimpanzee, the chimpanzee out. And IT mulled up this woman real good.

And then SHE costs on a dude. And the dude gets blood in his face and eyes, and he gets the virus immediately. And so they don't really going to detail about what the the actual virus is.

They just call IT rage like IT was something they invented. And IT basically instantly turns people into violence, zombies and folks. This is one of the first iteration of popular note of the fast zombie. What you're did this come out? Do you know what you're came on in?

Looks like IT was in two thousand. Two, oh.

so we're not even close to twenty years later. Yeah.

they can still do IT .

ah like plenty time. And so flash for now you hit the montage. Everything goes to hell in, in, in britain, particularly the island of of britain. That's the whole great britain.

Kelly Murphy wakes up in a hospital bed, and there is a great little scene of him kind of trying to figure out what the heck is going on because there is no humanity and anywhere he spends a good multiple minutes of his movie wandering around a desolate london ish area. I'm guessing, or one of the major towns um and there's no one. So just the the there's a distinct .

lack of uh cars blocking roads though, right?

I don't know, I don't know was that.

but I don't know if there was a budget issue or they were trying to communicate something, but there were not cars on .

the roads I took. Well, no, because he does pick up the newspaper that says evacuate and and the newspaper says, like get out of the major metropolis areas. So there are obviously was some kind of intention for people to leave.

But yeah, there are very few cars just strewed upon the road. I did find IT interesting that there are a number of like, scenic, london ish looking town shots from a high out like vantage point where there is nobody. And this is the medal day.

So they did this filming and they called him off. All those areas just have killed in merchant. Walk around in a gown. Yeah, which is wild.

We we did stop at some point and and have a conversation about how this could have spread so quickly in twenty eight days if the method of infection is either by bite or bodily fluid.

I mean, they were just violently attacking everybody.

And IT was because the incubation period was a matter of tens seconds.

You start turning .

yeah so killing Murphy .

starts wanting around. He stumbles into a church and there's just bodies parts strewn about and he's kind of like walked up some stairs to balcony looking over the main area of the church and he says, hello and then immediately you see your first zombie. You see a couple of them, and there are just these gaping mouth.

But why are they laying down?

They are tired. They don't have anything to attack. There's no sensory input for them to go chase after an rage upon on, right. So they're just like they're in low battery mode OK. There's screen savers on and they're just gate mouth either red like blood red and they just start coming for him.

I think that that's actually more scary because in a typical zombie movie, you have them coming around upright so you can tell this how they're moving immediately, whether not that area has zombies or not. But if they're just laying down, yeah exactly.

They don't know what is going to happen. And obvious there's like a brand of lack of superfast omb coming a anyway that doors bust open. It's like a it's either a deek in or an abbott or something like that comes through.

And that's your first scene where killing Murphy wax and with a bag for a can and you see is face up close. Oh no, he's six, six. So he start run IT kill me.

Merfin out of there, chased by a number's zombies running, running, running. Montage is another kind of fascination. And then two other humans were in gas master, thrown molotov cocktails at the zombies, light them on fire, which leads to them just blowing up an entire gas station.

We still has gas. So that station go. Thank you. Which points to the fact that how much evacuation was there if there was still tons of gas under the block, the station.

So good point later, anyway, he hooks up with two people, two survivors, and they kind of start to explain how one survives in this new world. right? There's very little food. They're eating junk food, taking thailand off. The headaches from the sugar crashes from the drinks that they are drinking, no water.

Other interesting thing about these zombies, though, is they don't require a headshot. You can kill them like you would kill a Normal human.

I don't really. Yes, all the things I saw, they pretty much how to get wacked in the head.

Now they can be killed like regular. They're not specifically targeting the head shot in every situation where there is ammunition, they're just unloading.

If there was .

just a headshot, you'd be much more judicious about like .

I felt that, that was playing more towards the lack of discipline of the military that comes later in the movie then the fact that they are either brought down with head shot or not.

but in one of the first kills that you see, like the the fire is, for instance, like that would have IT blew up.

Okay.

that's fair. But one of the first like really graph hic zome kills .

that you see .

it's at close range using like a machete and the person is complete, is hacked. Because if I was just and IT was somebody that they knew .

he had turned yet, right?

But if I was put up his ARM.

IT was a defensive manu.

But if I was just the requirement of, like, lopping off the head of the zombie, why would I have to be so violent .

because he needed to kill him before he turned yeah I just .

don't think IT required hot shots I didn't see .

and I don't think that's true. But at the same time, they did not make a point either way of explaining IT sure um they did spend a lot of time like blowing zombies up up with like clammers and explosive also big done because the whole move show five one one guy gets a drop of .

blood in his .

eye and and turn immediately so they spend more time trying to survive. Ultimately going back to killing Murphy house, killing morphy sees his parents are dead. That's what leads to this the guy dying. Celine is the female yes.

celine and um and Collins morphs parents is a self inflicted death. They are not .

zombie is right? So numerous people have killed themselves before dealing with this.

you see in the movie, but you get to can see them. They had a peaceful passing verses. Uh, one of being eaten, I don't even know they're .

eating them. I think they're just turning them. These are not the E. D types zombies.

They are the E. D types zombies because we talk about starvation.

No, I know. But what IT hold on. I don't think they're eating people. I don't think that they know anything about eating to survive. I think they're just purely rabbies rage.

They're like rabbies.

huh? So they're just raging on people and that's all they have in their brain to do. There's nothing else there.

Not not getting sustained from the kills.

No, that's why that's why they start because their brain can do nothing other than rage, huh? There's no part in the movie where you see a zombie like festing on somebody. You just see them attacking.

And then once that person's dead, they run to the next person OK. Because you see that a ton of zome movies where the zome will take out of human, they will stop. A number of zombie will fall upon that human and start eating, and then the rest of them keep coming.

Okay.

in this case, that one zombie that get let out, he will kill somebody, then get up and start going after other people OK. right? right? So i'm i'm thinking this is more down the radio road of zombie, the shambling brain eaters zombie okay.

we're gona debate the finer points of zombie movies.

And these kind of things are what stick out to .

me when I see him so yeah so so killing morphy um still they decide a bunker down at his parents house because it's too dark to get back to what was originally their safe house right?

Well, no, they were moving on. That's just one of their safe houses.

sure yeah. But they were going to go back to the original safe house because IT is IT was a store front that was fairly security had like you know security gates and things like that. And he gets sentimental and nostalgic and turns on the T, V.

To watch old home movies. And he likes to call. And that attracts zombies.

There is a zombie that comes through a skylight in the scene.

which doesn't .

make sense. We're talking about they're on the first floor and it's like a suburb.

So you tell me the zombie climbed .

up on the roof? Srs.

yeah, yeah. I understand that, but but strategically try to get on the roof assuming that there's a sky.

And IT was like a big, overweight zombie too. He was the one like, no, i'm i'm doing this with some flare IT go through the head, the skylight by the way, the zombies are like on killing Murphy when the attacking one of a map and he doesn't get any blood .

in his mouth and his eyes anything. How is that possible?

So he's okay, which is very lucky.

but the other guy is not a thing. He gets a gash and they don't know if he's infected. But the activation window is so short that celine .

yeah SHE just starts walking on this guy .

and he says you could see IT in his face, they know. And that and that's absolutely true when later on in the movie, when somebody else gets turned right.

So now it's so lean and killing merrill and they start making their way downtown or get now to town. Basically, they're walking along and they see an apartment complex with the flashing Christmas lights in one of the balconies yeah high up so they had there and IT turns out that you know there's a seen where um you find out later the father and a daughter and the father has like built up kind of defenses.

So he has taken all the, i'll say the right word trolleys yes, and he piled up all the trolleys like at the stairway that would lead to the apartment like tons we're talking like thirty, thirty plus of these things all stack up probably like fifteen feet high, so, so lean and clean. We're not even calling NBA his name, and I know his name is in the move. Jm, jim, I like killing Better.

So he climbs up and they start going, and we're talking in fights and stares to get up there. The zombie start chasing them. A new zombie started chasing them, and they make IT up, and they see a man fully decked out in riot gear with a riot shield. And he's holding like a tire iron on, or something pretty ominous. And he moves his shield out the way to point to them to get inside and .

tells us the apartment number.

tells the apartment number to run to. And in this apartment, all the apartments are gated, like there's a door.

but then there's a gate, which is what has keep a kept them and say.

right, basically. And so there's a scene where he basically uses the ride shel to hold back. He will slam them with the back in the head, with the and.

and then to them that keeps out criminals, can keep out zombies.

So bashes up a couple of zombie's real good, and then throws them into the stairwell. They followed down, which is a cool sydney following. So anyway, the dad, the right guy, was very ominous in his first introduction in the movie.

But really nice guy turns out, trying to do the best he can for for his daughter. And he, the dad, after they kind of settle little a little bit, shows killing in Murphy and sellin his radio. And there is a signal on the radio basically saying, come to us, we are the military.

We are in the outskirts of this town. We have the solution for the virus where we have something like that. And so where they happen to be, which is a point they have to make because otherwise there would be no motivation for them to leave because they're a pretty nice set up. There's a scene when they go up to the roof of the apartment building and the dad has laid out just every vessel in the entire partment complex that he's collected. He's put on the roof to collect rain and he's commenting that hit there out of water there in they're in great britain and there hasn't been any rain and so they have no water and so they have to leave actual motivation to do something right yeah and so they turns out he is a taxi, which is that, you know the black london taxi, which some of your vision ing in your head properly.

I'm also a little perplexed by the water systems being down the phone lines because this only twenty eight days later, right?

Okay, powers up.

And for me that that leads me to believe that the infrastructure for our water systems and our phone systems, which are theoretically just need the cables and the power.

So so so for that.

if there are not humans had handling the catastrophic problems in the systems they're not functioning. I guess .

either way, I would approach this is it's probably more about a cascine failure that the the grid well, it's the power lines are fine now yeah.

he has Christmas lights.

Power powers does eventually go out. That's another reason they leave. But for a long time, there's power like everywhere. But some of the services are are not available like radio just shuts down.

Every station shuts down um which actually is not a big problem that we will talk about later in the movie because again, radio or solves all problems. Yes, and that is the major plot point of this movie. At the end, I didn't need to think about IT when I was watching the movie.

I am an idiot. So they all in this black taxi, they start driving and there's a really great scene where they have to go through a tunnel and the tunnel is just full of dead things and car. So that's your traffic scene.

That's the only that they had to drive down and in touch the road they are going to manchester.

then they're na go to the commander are going no .

cars on the road. They're not pulled over.

There's nothing. It's all all into the tunnel.

It's just free. How how there's nothing.

The two things that are priority one is region on people. And then when there's nothing like to do.

it's tidy up a little bit specifically the cars get him out.

get a bit the tunnels. So there's a really fun seen where they have to like hold the truck, the taxi up as they swap the tire um they make IT it's good. All these seems are really good because if you think about like lay is looking for that traffic, seen where're walking around on nars cars everywhere.

They saved that trope of a omi movie to do IT in the scarious way possible in a tony, the last place you want to be, right? So they make IT, and they get to what looks like a border boundary crossing, safety crossing. Very military are all kinds of military vehicles and guns.

And there's barra e set up. There's almost like it's it's like a rm part, like they have an upper and lower level. It's almost like scaffolding built up for this and there's just like nobody there.

There's there's remnants of some kind of uh camp that was there because there's like food and um not not even food. It's like a kitchen, right, where they're clearly feeding a lot of people yeah IT looks like .

at one time this was maybe a mustering location and they were only lending people through that weren't infected that kind of thing. Again, we're talking twenty eight days, right? So this was both built and has now been abandoned in the course of twenty eight days, which is like, okay, that's that's prety crazy.

especially with how fortified.

See the kids, this is why you don't get ready, your guns just say, anyway, so the the dad, for some reason.

no, you forgetting the kid. Because up until this point.

I know that was the cause that was that was the gas station, that was the gas truck that happened before. That was before they even got to the barricade you're talking. So there they are.

okay. So we skip the bit when they get out the tunnel, but before they make IT to the barricade, they need to fill up the taxi. So they stop.

And the dad shows the daughter had a cyphers gas out of the large gas trucked, which is full of gas, very convenient. And so they they gas to back up well. Well, that's going on killian.

Murphies is, I think, a little upset at salee. And we are yet taught some of the scenes that happen when they're kind on their journey. But he goes into the gas station in his looking around and he does his signature remove.

He says hello. And that causes a omb e child to attack him, and he knocks the child down, put a boot on its chest, basically in anger, smashes IT with a baseball bat. So that's the scene that is talking .

about anyway.

So now that is first ill. Yes, that is right, because he's been coming out so they're at the barricade and there's nothing going on. The dads upset because he basically endangered everybody to bring them there and he's been promised salvation and he has kind of a meltdowns, Young's dreams and kind of thing. And he looks up because there's a crow in the upper rampart area and the co has like an eye ball or some there's a head .

up there or .

is a head okay? And the drop of blood.

I might be a whole body, but all you seeing yeah ahead in the car.

a drop of body of blood falls, gets him right in the eye and he kind of starts touching IT and he needs, have a moment, was like, all this is not good and his daughters right there.

and he he loves her.

loves her very much. It's actually very well done, seen, but he is like turning he's yelling, get away from me, get away from he's forcing himself to walk away from them and it's almost like he's two bodies, two people in ways well, he did really good joyeuse. And then as he is now fully turned people, soldiers basically stand up that you didn't know well, they're about to have to kill him yeah the lees coming forward, bunch of soldiers soldiers stand up and they just start kind of unloading on him so that might go to your point. They don't know what they're doing because they're just hit them everywhere yeah um anyway, they hit him enough in in the rate places that he's not getting up again he's done so the daughter SAT, of course but then they get them to a castle I would call IT yeah .

and before this there was a conversation that was had about. Why they needed each other, right? And the and the father was basically saying that he was trying to get her to people because of something were to happen to him. He wanted her to be taken care of.

Yes, which is right, because so at the end of the day, we are all we have, right? Yeah at the end of the day.

So it's particularly sad, but for a moment, you're thinking it's very relieving that his efforts get him to a place the manner is fully secure. You get a tour of the whole thing, uh and uh the guy who is essentially the general, he seems like a good guy.

He is played by when doctor who had a resurgence. He is the first doctor season and doctor, yeah yeah. And so you have a bit of a reprieve of this is safe.

There's got systems in place. There's people in the kitchen cooking for everybody.

They have a watch, they have defenses.

There's minds there. There's a full parameter with electrified advances, I think .

electrified and yeah and they have minds and there's multiple instances where there's zombies that come on to the property .

and the in the shoot spatchcock y're even keeping a zombie in a in prison to see how long it'll take for him to starve to death, right? They're trying to .

learn something from the .

so if they have hot water, that's a really big day, right? Because now you're like, oh, this may be sustainable, right?

And so everything seems fine, but there's little cracks in the in the armor, if you will, that start to show that you know things are not that great like the there's poor discipline among a lot of the men. They make fun of the one who's kind like the chef. He's like the bud of a lot of jokes. And IT kind of comes to A A point where one of the men makes a past at celine after .

I think that the major crack for me early on is up until this point, there's not actually a shortage of food for them. Everywhere they go, they're able to get food, right. So like in one of the road trip.

there's litter everywhere.

this stuff there, the entire back of the cars filled with crisp, right? And when that's .

only once they get out of the town, like once they get away from the major metropolis areas, that's when they start finding the shall stable food and collecting all that stuff as they go. But then when they get to the castle.

there's even more of IT or the manner, right? But they have somebody cooking for them and all he was able to cook with beans and eggs that had got off.

And that's that's how you knew there was a problem. Yes, really yeah oh interesting. okay. In hindsight, yeah, early would see what you're saying. So so basically the one of the more bravos soldiers makes a pid saline, and that causes gym to kind of like jump in. And then I think one of the guys like hits jim and then the general comes in and breaks IT all up and sense the the, the outside and then .

they've also got a sergeant who was citing with jim.

yeah he he helped jm out. And so the the captain, he's not a general captain, whatever is lutte, I don't know. He's obviously the officer. Yes, right. Takes him to the study, if you will give pose some a drink gym and basically starts explaining like he these it's not as good as we have IT the guys more is incredibly low. Basically, I promised them women.

and that's why they put out the radios.

why they put out the radio signals so that they could bring people to them because they need to reestablish society. right? Is the whole point. So it's so real uncomfortable talk, right? And everything that starts happening after that IT gets more and more uncomfortable.

yes. So jim is like, this is not okay. Well, jimsy and have someone of a relationship .

already like a very Young relationship, but he kissed her like at that manner yeah for the first time.

And so he immediately goes to grab saline and hanna, who is the daughter.

He does not do this in a healthy way. He doesn't .

play IT takes off like .

ving screaming, screaming. I've learned everybody. He gets the butt of a rifle to the face immediately.

And so now they've got him, and the sergeant now change radiators, and they're gonna go about doing what they want to do with the women folk. basically. Yes, with the whole point.

So pauses for a little bit on the the lady side of things and they cut forward to the soldier who's the butt of the jokes, the kitchen soldier, and one of the more bravado soldiers basically taking the surgeon and G. M. Out to go shoot right way out for some.

And then you see all of the other people we've done this to, right?

So they hide them out to a spot where apparently they shoot people yeah and if IT gets pretty visual to the point that the one dude like puts the bay and at on his sort, like he's going his sd on his rifle, that he's just gonna stab m instead of waiting a bullet, which is horrible thought, right? And so that there there's a bit of a tussle where the sergeant basically started yet back and forth. The cook soldier doesn't want the project get shot and so he shoots his gun to scare the other soldier. The bravo soldier grabs the cook and starts kind of like, he's like, i'll shoot you instead or i'll shoot all of you and that allows gym to basically hide .

yeah he disappears. But before this, while they're that sergeant and jim are their tight.

that's the most .

important part and he says we're quarantine ah we just need to get off the island like, yes, that's right because this is not happening everywhere in the world.

Yes, it's only happening here.

Thank you.

That would have been a major mess if we didn't include that. The surgeon is kind of like referred to as the philosopher of the group at the dinner. And he has a lot of these kind of borderline conspiracy theory things that he says that very few shots of him but anyway, he says IT and that's the first time you hear that no, this isn't worldwide. IT was IT was contained right in great britain.

Yeah and the captain has basically lost his humanity despite the fact that there is an outside world .

if they could get to IT, right? And so jim, now flash ford again. They're gonna get shot up.

Jim, hide. Surgeon starts running. The soldiers start running after the surgeon.

Jim, at some point, I think, oh no. He starts running. His hands are class behind him.

His tide, he starts running. He trips and falls, looks up any season, airplane flying. yeah. And so now he knows the sergeant was right, and that this is, we're just stuck here, right? So he know IT basically has to save the girls before. This is like you you don't know anything about jim, like the back story of jim.

Well, he was like a bike messenger.

Bike saved, had like mohawk's kind of head, whatever an obvious is killing Murphy. So he is kind skinny, oh.

by the way, full nudity of killing Murphy.

This is not a family movie. So he gets his hands free and he kind of disappears because the soldiers are looking for him and they know that he hot offense. So he's now back in the compound side of the the defense area. And fast forward, a lax son starts to go off, which is like that aired siron. Oh, that's what a collapsing is.

Oh, I thought you were going gna talk about how dumb these soldiers were back at the house of the women. They were forcing them to dress up in the lady of the manners close, which heavily delays any essay that they're planning to.

So they had this whole scene of trying to get them dolled up for their horrible thing that they are planning.

And a celine gives hanna drugs so that the experience is not as traumatic for her right? And so down the line, when jim comes to uh to kind of rescue them right hand as high as a kite, yes.

so there's a lovely delay of all of that that's happening at the manner and the clarinet are sticking off. It's a hand crank parade siron basically. And so the lootenant now and three guys get into their vehicle and they start heading back towards that barricade wall where the dad died.

They get there in the collapsing cooling, about the collapsing as you hand cranking and you let IT go and IT goes for a little while. And that kind of like. And that whole seen is built up to that.

So you know, jims are kind of like gone somewhere. And then he turns into a full stealth killer. So he ends up like systematically killing two of the guys, like one of them still in the jeep thing.

He just murdered him. He didn't get out the seat. And then the other one, he got him to climb up to the top of the rampart.

And then there's a really great thing where the guy's head is just poking out of the latter. Well, to get to the rampart and jim comes running up and just tire iron. M, just wax.

Mt, he's dead. So the lutte obviously also not very skilled. He just kind of starts aimlessly shooting is she's shooting all over the place. I doesn't hit anybody.

He eventually can't find jim, and so he gets back in his little jeep thing and zombies start attacking because all the guns shots going off now, and there's just like naked zombies full on naked. Now a lot of things happen fast and furious at this point that I want you to go watch the movie instead of trying to retail action scenes. But basically everyone's that that is still alive, gets back to the manner. And so is jim. And jim is now A A covert .

Operative.

wowing a distrust in chaos among the the ranks. He left the zombie out first, informal, so that they were keeping. And he starts run a mucking everywhere, and ultimately through that zombie infecting other soldiers.

And jim also doing a little little specks ops work, gets the point that almost everybody's dead. And so he gets to the the roof of the second floor as celine is getting pulled away by a soldier who has already mentioned he wanted her specifically. And h. Jim basically just bodies. The guy, like he grabbed him behind, smashes his head into the brick wall of this man multiple times, like kind of flips him on the ground and then does the rambo two thugs in the ice socks cats movie and it's a lot like they .

show it's .

hard core like IT is very impressive. The battle like the guy is is bad. It's wild.

Anyway, James, like, now a full mark. Like killer, like crazy killer. Like you fully competent where a decent? Like you totally not. Like, yeah fully competent. No problem to the point that he's so violent and the room that they're in is kind of shaded and everything's raining because there's the rain finally, yes, salley has a moment where holding the a shady at him and he starts to walk towards her and she's going to hit him with IT and SHE realizes looking his face it's gym yeah so they start kissing frantically and then that's when handle rules said and think that he's biting her higher, that a kite hits him with like a bottle or something mind you.

he's unfed by the bottle yeah .

my money jim has like already sustained a lot of damage like he's rolling around with just open wounds all over his body yeah, he's all cut up.

So they get to the car.

They again. So nothing happens between from the top floor to running down. They they get all the way down.

They run all the way. Get back to the taxi, they open the door and look tenants in the back seat. And he just shoots jim right in the guy.

He says something about, you killed all my guys.

killed my boys yeah and then just then.

hanna ends up dispatching the guy with calm in hand.

Is now the driver the dads? yes. And so she's actually pretty good driver. Sha throws the taxi in reverse because she's the first one in the vehicle.

SHE doesn't see the little tenant SHE backs up the taxi to the front of the manner and the zombies are john y on the spot, waiting for this moment. They die through the rear window and Young to return IT out. And then SHE guns IT SHE guns IT picks up jim saline.

And then they then he passes out, which, yes, he's basically the narrative person. If he's not conscious, then there's no story so he comes to in a cottage right in a very pictures spot, don't know where this is, shot another twenty eight days later is beautiful. And they saline and hand are doing something frantically.

But they're panning they're panning towards this um like they pan through the roads and they are dying. There's a low angle.

It's like a drone shot. Yeah, IT would have been a drown shot if IT was made today. There's this flying thing that's capturing what's going on.

And they're looking at zombies that look like they are incredibly immediate and they're just kind of like the falling out. yes. yeah.

So this is sweeping around. This really pictures countryside and hanna's in the field, pulling out White sheet and obviously lying them down. And sleep is frantically sowing on a hand crank sewing machine.

And jim has a bandage on his gut. So obviously he didn't die. He walks out and she's, you makes a comment on the dress that he was wearing that the soldiers put her. And she's now used in this, whatever IT is y're making.

And so they all run outside, and they stretch out this weight and now bits of read from the dress in a sign, big letters that say hello, and then a plane flies overhead and they're waving at the plane. And then I think jim has something on lines. You think he saw us this time or what time?

And they're all very hopeful, unhappy.

And that is the end, that is the end of the movie, right? And then twenty weeks later, twenty weeks later happens in we'll see soon what happens in twenty years later. I heard the killing. Murphy is like only has a couple .

of scenes in the he's in twenty eight weeks later .

though um I don't remember I don't remember that movie like much at all of IT, but I do know that IT is now like a IT is a current team zone. It's a lot more of the outside looking in. So what's going on? There's more of that. So, okay, yeah, I love this movie. Great way.

So let's go. We read these movies on a six category scale, or five categories each. Those categories are likelihood of disaster preparedness, realism, characters, plot, entertainment, up for an overall potential thirty point value. What do you say about likelihood d of disaster?

I feel like a three point five there.

I I do think with the biological warfare that is being developed in however many countries, or by whoever neuvitas we could have, zambia. M, A pass.

I am. I, it's the raby's angle. Yeah, the rabies to me is more flaught ble than a shambling, brain mass eating yes thing.

And the fact that they can, in fact, die of starvation, not that they are, they would, because they were turned into the zombie, I would live in perpetuity and tell shot at the head.

right? right? Because they have no more human drive for sustainable from my point of view. So this is my thought is a fully functioning human in there is has bit it's just rabbit.

So if someone were to hold them down and feel like feed them intravenous e ously or whatever, they would live. Yeah so there I mean, I don't remember the second movie, but there's probably A Q come up with there's something because it's not like death. They are alive. Yes, right. So anyway, that's that's .

why i'm also saying that if they don't need a head shot.

Oh yeah okay then yeah I did you .

damage and in turn up and yeah right, that that which .

see that always fundamentally takes me out of the zombie game if it's not a rabies based thing or or something like that because if they are dead, the blood is not pumping, muscles will not work, right? IT will your blood will calculate in a rigorous test and you're dunk like there's no zombie, and right? So, okay.

they prepared this. I elene prepared.

No, this is a five for me, you and i'll tell you why, because IT goes through like almost every level of disaster, preparing this type of situation, like type of person, yes, slan, who's kind of the lone wolf just going through all of IT like living through IT walking, doing the left stuff. That is the level of prepared as you'd expect, you have the dad.

more .

prepared, very prepared, has bugged in, yes, created defenses, had appropriate defensive equipment for.

And then you've got a manner.

but but just his apartment too. He has a signaling capability. He has a level of preparing. He set up water or tried to. And then you have the manner, which is like the chaos of people with the ability to do violence.

There is a lot of, I mean, the manner was very aside from the food situation. And I know why beans though, you know, i'm not british. So maybe the beans is actually a good thing.

I don't know. So when they did that, when jim and and the latest or whatever we're having to talk in the study, IT was full of looted electronics. I think that's very real, like people would would lute the electronics in some cases over the food, right? right? So I like depending on how you look at this, it's got like all the troops in there. And I thought I was great.

I was like, totally. I wouldn't give me a five because .

it's not like cofield lane. I mean.

I go to OK realistic.

I'm not we're not in the U. K. So that's why I I think that they did a bad job of showing what the U.

K. Military looks like from a gun standpoint because everybody with a firearm, there's a couple of exceptions. They were horrible and the lootenant was like the worst of them.

I mean, the traffic thing that the idea that they could travel from whatever metropolitan city I am going to assume its london to manchester and not hit a span where their car could not move.

Yeah.

that super unrealistic kilan Murphy going from what appeared to be like, I I mean, he was comatose for thirty days. I mean, he wasn't moving and then he had the physical where, no, you know what they did have him get kind of winded yeah in parts like he was .

climbing the yeah and then he was walking you know like so his yeah I can see what you're think about the hospital but at the same time we don't fully understand the the virus, if you will .

yeah and the fact that because he's .

making no noise he's just lying there well.

he he would appear dead already right? And we've already .

established they are not feeding on though people yeah .

just trying to infect them yeah um okay. Realistic, I can't give me .

a five I can go for.

and I think that the collapse happened too soon.

I don't .

OK .

not with something that that violent. Okay.

characters to me, or minimum of the care.

they were all good, well, deep. Even the people you don't like in the movie are they're playing. It's very on the nose, like all the soldiers being all violent soldiers, like they're playing the trope, but they're really you really good. Everybody's really good in this movie. Four or five, i'm fine with the .

five even OK um the plot. I por a zombie movie. No, for a zombie movie. This is a .

very old that's true .

for a omb e movie because you go from heming comatose and they kind of like go through the time to wrap what somebody would Normally do. They they would want to go see their parents, their loved ones, right?

And he did IT it's tight IT doesn't feel .

like it's and and the and the first guy dying so soon and .

her response.

yeah and then the .

that states for all of IT like.

yeah you you're right .

and the very realistic .

twist of where they are like, oh, no, this was a scan. We were trying to just in slave women.

We just want your women .

right and then and then they're being a happy ending because the rest of the world is actually not impacted.

Now I got to tell you, I don't know if this isn't a movie that doesn't have like multiple endings because when they get in the car and leave the company, the manner IT fades to black, insist twenty days later yeah, i'm not sure that that's not how the theatrical runs didn't end. okay. The happy ending, i'm not sure, is like a DVD thing.

I don't know OK, but either way, like they shot all that stuff and that's what we watch so that's how i'm i'm ranking OK i'm back. I can go four, three, five. I give .

this a four because .

if IT is .

actually very pointed ant for a for a zombie move, it's very well .

for a zombie. Vie IT is one of the best ones out there, for no question.

And IT wasn't just because of the british accent SE. You know.

it's if you are to our savage american years, everything the british do sound so new ones to per, except phone shop per, then they're just like us. IT crowd, no, I T crowd. It's way to civil versus function.

Alright, entertainment value. It's, this is high.

It's high. But you know, you have to know, going in this is like a heart. This movie.

oh yeah, it's all all the bad things like .

IT starts out which is killing and Murphy full front all which is also kind of funny he's in a hospital. They're just like he's just naked if no play IT there's nothing like he's just naked um IT the violence is not shown in immense close up except for what IT is and when IT is. It's graphic yeah so just know that it's like a ford for me wo .

ow wow really why we're you're going to say no .

I mean where .

this is landing in the score .

is going to be high yeah twenty .

four five so .

is twenty four five yeah. Is IT the throne cloverfield?

No, it's it's in .

the top three IT be i'm .

OK it's only behind iron legend.

Now, of the top three, which one would you rather, what would you watch again? And in like the order of preference, if you'd watch them again?

I probably watched this one again before .

I am legend, but not before local field blind.

I would never watch clover, a ten clover field.

Then again, just got how unconfident makes you.

Yeah, I just .

this this movie.

And I would actually recommend this movie.

I am yes, so this movie is is very we watchable. I am legend is hard for me because the dog and ten color red lane I would probably watch before both of them again. But i'm also a big clear field that for that whole.

I think part of this for me is covered by the fact that I loved killing morphy in peaky blinders and he is a very current actor right now. So if I were to tell somebody.

oh yeah ah because yeah .

this is this is a movie I would recommend to somebody to watch before ten cloverfield and I am legend.

Yes, speaking of another killing morphy disaster movie.

open hyper ah, we haven't seen that.

Is that qualifies the human disaster? sure. I don't know.

Oh right. Well, if you would like to join the H R C C movie club, you can go over to the shows, notes of wherever you listen to this podcast. Head down to the section that says H R C C movie club, where there is a link where you can vote and suggest movies.

That is a poly link. When you open that link, IT will take you over to a page that ask you the question, what disaster post pocalypse prepared this? And IT doesn't say this, but radio related movies, should we watch for the H.

R. C. C movie club? Now, before you add your suggestion, go scroll on down the list to see if your movie has already been suggested.

If he has been suggested, go here and vote for IT. If IT hasn't been suggested at that point, go ahead and added. And then you're welcome to head over to the hr cc podcast channel of the discord lobe for your movie.

Now if we've already watched the movie that you want to vote for, just could have to go back and find which our podcast episode we talked about that movie yeah because we do not really watch movies and we pick the movie that has the most votes of that we haven't watched before. Yes, i'm going to go through this list. And if you'd like to see the list in the order in which we have watched to the movies, C.

J, put together a great letter box that you can check out the first movie on the list is frequency follow by zombieland wali twenty twelve hitchener guide cast away contact a quiet place redone, deep impact fall towering and fernal war of the worlds twelve monkey is sent in today as blast from the past, love and monsters. I still think about that movie. I could watch that movie again.

Ah twister .

airplane, Greenland tremors, soiling Green, maximum overdrive, the tomorrow war armagnac.

That's not in our order. That's on the Polly.

That's the Polly. These are the top votes. The road shown of the dead I am legend on the beach the day afterworld or z independence day z is for have we watched that?

I know I ve been watched that.

It's the one that starting margo robbi. So we have not watched that. That's everybody get ready for a marco robbie for I ve been heard of that movie.

No, I must be recent.

Z for zia. Thank you. Everybody who participates in the H R, C C movie club .

booking IT up rotten tomatoes of seventy nine percent and it's a zombie movie, but he came out two thousand and fifteen. I have not even heard of this. Always got it's got a captain coconut, the new cabin.

kirk. Christine, yeah. I like Christine. great. wow. okay. cool.

Thanks for you introducing us to new movies of the zombie variety.

Yeah, two thousand and fifteen. I was like a peak zombie mode too. So I don't know how miss to do.

What did I do? Where do we go on? Well， thank you, layer, and thank you everybody for voting. We really appreciate great pic. So far we've had a couple of hot bangers uh to remind you to go check out if you having already go check out and tactic dot coffee, particular you made at this far in the podcast.

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What's happening? The stack .

cases change, remember?

Let's go. This one, before the stack s moves again.

will come to the email correspondence. Ts tower. This is your part of the show where your feedback drives the whole thing is.

So A D H D test part of the tower.

Yeah, came in the mall. So I have fini, have finding my test yet to continue my journey to determine how much hd I got in me. But are other are high as we've we've come to find out.

But yeah, you can become the outside there. Way to go. Where are my play? I've lost. I've lost the plot there. IT is so our whole area of user feedback we call at the email correspondence compound where we've got three building's. The first building is the physical male depot, and that's where you can email or physically mail us at P.

O box fifty one.

The lady will be very mad at you to write onto beverage on IT shoved in the box fifty one or one sre OS, california, nine zero seven zero three. We have information in the shoots on that, but we've got a couple of things here and is the season for Christmas cards in all that other jazz. So i'm going to put my A D H D thing on the site here.

We'll get back to that. But I got a postcard from A K K zero N I G Chris conic in um hey gordon beaver ever need a brisk uh connect oh no he's in chick up he and chico that's the name of I don't know with the town no chico look forward a few cusos in the future from Chris yeah ris I I know Chris. I've worked you so I working before, I think anyway ah so we have a johns and family.

This is the season for Christmas cards, I think maybe so. This is gonna our our first Christmas card opening of the of the year. Here lay a loves, loves Christmas cards.

I do. I enjoy your Christmas card. I me.

but also not a fan of making them anymore. I think you've hit the.

you know what?

No is not going to have that much paper. Oh, this is a proper like card.

like a card card.

I love that. Have a fun holiday. Best wishes to you and your family.

I, C, santa is holding a new ht for you. You're right. Cycle camp. And thank you.

bill. Bill, our our living room is a basically santos workshop right now. If santa worked at amazon, IT is full of gifts for other people.

IT is the bioproducts of black friday.

And you know what's funny, none of those gifts are for our kids because we bought them in experience.

Okay, we got a letter. This is from A B A A S read in barboursville, west Virginia and we made a contact this month on single cyber. Josh, thank you for um.

Oh, the hurricane holy wait, wait here. Thank you for the thank you basically thank you for the contact boda. He was at uh, eleven forty one, so he made a contact with us at seven forty one.

You know what's really fascinating, I am actually very interested in going to west Virginia.

really I don't know.

That's just one of the states that I want to check out. I think something about IT um like a kind of has its own culture.

I would like to do a Better hiking on the appellation .

yeah also this a this week your mom found the proof of your family being descendants from the may flower.

We have officially got word. There is and how man, I don't know. How do I feel about that actually? Yeah, i'm torn in many different directions on my thoughts on that.

Really excited because he wanted to they have haven't done their pilot module at school yet and he was like all that so great, i've going to be able to tell everybody I am like, I just don't know how society feels about that. Now it's .

funny because on one hand, pilgrims like, just brave, very, very brave. And the most like, I want to live my life the way I want to live IT, yeah, you could put that on my family crest. Yes, next to all the .

swans that I murdered.

But the the religious ideas, not so much a fond of.

but oh no, that's not what I was talking about. And then you made the joke that your family is boat people, too.

Do you tell your mom can't wait to bring that up a Christmas? Gather around everybody. Is this just a room full of asian faces looking at me that are there are both the people who came here on boat and their children all know my family were boat people before your family.

The original boat people, if you will, we at least claim we are. We know we're not. So the letter write, hello, john lea. I want to first send congratulations to layer on passing and achieving her general ticket that well.

Thank you. You don't have to keep bringing the bell for me.

Do just thanks. Activating U. S. Eleven forty one. There are in california, november twelve. I'm glad you could hear me and I was able to get you in the log.

I enjoys listening to the weekly podcast as well as watching all the youtube content. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that my wife and I are now retired and have been able to drive to some ham, fast ham fest recently. I attend, I attended the events while SHE is shopping in the community.

Oh, very good.

During our two day drive to invention this year, he asked me, you still listen to the husband and wife in california? I said, yes. And he mentioned, we could listen to some of that.

Will try that. So nice. Thank you.

SHE told me how he enjoys listening to the topics layer talks about after is so infectious, refreshing and positive. Oh, thank you. We ultimately listen to several podcasts .

as we travel to the drive friend .

he did kick up the triple crown, he said, travel to him casion ham venture and finally hung fill in twenty twenty four.

Those are the big three.

That's yeah. We put a lot of miles on our four runner A K A marconi in twenty twenty four and enjoyed listening to you when we were on the road seventy three. And the best you both listening and watching here in west Virginia, read A B eight eight.

Thank you.

Read that is wonderful letter to go along with that that you so I I love you. Thank you so much and appreciate that.

Now i'm bomb that I didn't get to activate with read in my log or .

you don't have read.

Well, he said that he made .

a new book. We got A A new, we got a new book from permit. K said for C, I, D.

carnett wrote a series of fantastic kids prepared this books and send them to us. Our kids love them. He so kindly sign them. I love books signed by the author.

So this is a story by a americans survival sam saves the day, a real life emergency hero book and its proper pete and friends and they looks like writing by permet Jones and illustrated yeah by desi bwona. So all this is. IT is a little note this proper pete .

and friends josh.

hope you are well, this is an advanced reader copy of the latest book based on a true story, would appreciate any help in spreading the word great a great Christmas grit guests for the ham kid in your life. And i'd love to collaborate with you on proper pete and the sad ham. All that really good idea.

I love IT. I'm gonna going to put that right here. And I will add that to my list, my todo es, after I wrap up the show, and hopefully i'll make a note i'll catch up with.

You will drop a link to your new book in the show notes.

Yes, please go check those out as well. All right, well.

that's the last .

mile from other people, but I got this other mail from a car that we still and finished filling out. We are question twenty one of the, what is this? The horn? Would call this thing .

what is this thing .

called the thorn .

evaluation, the .

authoring evaluation for A D H D. Now if you haven't listened to this before, we're ranking these, scoring them. I'm scoring myself on the question lay scoring what he thinks I am on a zero.

Do not engage in this behavior. A, one, one to several times per month, two, one to several times per week. Three, one to several times per day, or four, one to several times per hour.

right? So the higher the point value is, probably more on the line of you having A D H D is kind of the point you're making, right? So item twenty one, I require eye contact in order to listen successfully.

E G, one to one situation. And this is not to due to hearing loss. I am. I think i'm a zero.

everyone.

okay?

Sometimes I do need to make sure you are looking at me in the face.

Can I have difficulty demonstrating short term memory skills? E. G. Fail to remember two or three step directions, failed to remember materials needed for a task eeta. I'm a wanna too.

I too.

And I think a lot of that is because I have like kid things.

yes.

so that I grab my kit, and then that has all those things in IT that I need. Three, I have difficult to remembering sequences, eg. Events in a daily routine, steps in an activity eeta a one.

not two. Specifically as IT relates to the kids stuff.

particularly that relates to things I don't care about now I am just joke. I lose track of what i'm doing. Eg, forget why I went to get something.

Three, yeah, it's three. Now you are also high on that one. You may be higher than me on .

that one hundred percent. Yeah, I think that's a four for me.

I have difficulty managing time at work. E. G, fail to complete task on time. fail. When is that? Twenty five?

Twenty five is has difficulty waiting for his or her turn for me.

Oh, is that the child's one?

No, I felt this is the home rating version.

What's you twenty six?

Interrupt others. No, I have .

difficulty managing paperwork on the job.

okay. Well, we are gonna diverge. Then you read your twenty five and you're rating.

well, that's not good.

Well, how would I know what you're doing at the job?

Oh, I see you you're say, so you're say, oh, okay, so they're asking you to just do you're on a little sideways?

St, yes, it's a subscale.

I see. So twenty five for me. I have difficulty managing time at work.

Eg, failed to completely to complete test on time, failed to accomplish or accurately estimate the amount of time to finish a task or assignment. Well, on or two, probably a two. And that's more or less because of the constantly changing environment .

by twenty five is has difficult to waiting his or her turn. I think that is a three. You get very upset .

when the .

kids try to use, serve your time .

that I have so little .

my turn .

is was a day and there is like, mom, mommy, mom, mommy, that's more of four, five on them. Okay.

go.

you're you, you're not creating this approach.

You get really frustrated when you want me to start watching your videos while i'm in the middle of watching my video just late.

Twenty six, I have difficulty managing paperwork on the job.

You don't like picture.

I hate paperwork. If you do not work on paperwork, rate this im a zero. See, this is kids, kids, everybody listening.

This is what you get in the management. You delegate the paperwork. okay. So now I do have to do IT, but I hate IT. I have difficulty managing um i'll say three okay.

mine is interrupt. Other other example begins talking while others are talking. I know that you try not to do this, so I feel bad. Give you a three because you mean, well, you are just done, always successful.

I'm also, when I want to be very loud and sometimes don't want to be twenty seven, I have difficulty listening to and or paying attention in conversations with fellow employees and or supervisors, not due to hearing loss.

I mean, I think that sometimes you don't want to pay attention.

I don't want to to pay attention. But when it's like one on one with people, i'm fine. It's like when there's a meeting and i'm just not that engaged yeah yes, my twenty seven is .

is impulsive example, acts before thinking, reacts immediately to situations without thinking, is impatient yeah this is a three.

How in what way.

sometimes it's quite often you react immediately in situations and you are impatient.

Wow, got me run on the nose on that. Twenty eight, I attend more successfully when close to the source of sound. E G.

The person speaking during a meeting or conference situation. I attend more sex。 That's a tough one.

especially if you've moved to more of like zoom meeting, right, because that nobody's closer.

I don't know. That wasn't tough. Two, maybe yes. Two, my number twenty .

eight is has difficulty following a routine example. Does things out of order fails to wait for an activity at the schedule time? eeta. So what's interesting about this is you follow a routine for yourself, and I think that that is a habit that you built for two, not forget things, right? But you still forget things.

So you before you bet at the score, you're ready trying to soft in .

in the I see it's not as bad as a three, but I think without your the systems you've set up for yourself, you would be a three. But I gave you I two.

I see, I see. Thank you. This one's tRicky. okay. And i'll explain why twenty nine, and maybe this will stop at twenty nine. I failed to perform and or complete work as assignments during work time. eg.

Failed to use the workday efficiently to finish task, fail to meet stated deadlines, or for project assignment completion, here's the one, go to another assignment before completing the first. So the problem in everything I do is there's no like start clock in, clock out and then you ve got to complete all this stuff during that time. Yeah, everything is a hodge podge of things that are gonna do months, days, weeks, that that's the .

nature of being a manager to right?

And so and then things are constantly blowing up. So you you have to stop to reprise tize constantly. So am I that type of person like I almost I almost want to relate that to just projects I have right like at home I mean, i'll start a project and then go off and do something else and come back to IT yeah I will do that yeah because like I can't just do one thing. No, that's crazy. okay? I think .

you've .

got your answer and that's zero, right?

You keep .

yourself I think I well, I ve said three, but like, I think i'm being hard on myself. I don't want to tik talks to come out in the scoring if you tiktok told .

me and my twenty nine said, starts things before receiving and or reading directions, instructions, putting things together or performing torts. That's the all I do. That's .

literally guys I want.

This should be a four IT should be a for. But you just don't do things that require directions and instructions one to several times an hour.

Oh, I see. I want everyone. I want everybody listening to, basically, I want everybody listening for, everybody listening to his said.

Only read the manual lashes are you're all of four on this bad boy, all of you listening that view. That is a thing of pride. And I don't have to open the manual. You might also need to be take at this test. You might also need to get your license in this particular area of mental health and you're not going on in a thirty, should we does that figure out that i'm not going to think does that figure out?

Just finish IT.

it's what you finished. I've got a whole subscale yeah.

go to thirty .

because .

we're doing ten, right?

Why have thirty one?

I know. Go to thirty .

because .

we're doing ten .

questions. I know, 嘿。 Ah, okay, thirty. I am disorganized at work.

E G, not necessary and not having necessary materials, missing materials, fail to find completed assignments, fAiling to follow the steps of the assignment eeta. So I have nothing like that. There's nothing concrete. Yeah but but I will tell you that I have to make copies of things because like this is also a thing with outlook like trying to search outlook for emails, as we all know, is as a health cape. Yes, outlook has like .

the dome arch .

somethink at all. IT does not help you. So what's really interesting is the application.

One note was made for people that want this type of like organization yeah, where you can create files like almost like a league, like a manilla envelope file yeah and then you have pages in the manilla envelope yeah so like, I have a folder that just titled cya. And then I have another one that is titled problems. And then every page just people i've had problems. And like what they did and the dates .

so happier DIY is like .

here reading my hate book, my hate book. No, I think that i'm in that area of my file, my online file, the least most of my time. It's like I have an important links page and I have like my weekly things that I must touch for for meetings and all that stuff. IT links directly to all the network, whatever, bob. But with really great about this is that you can just drag and drop stuff into IT so you can just grab the email of where the person wronged you, put IT directly in your in your folder.

You usually have that for your worklife. No.

i'm do thirty. Can I .

finish done and .

checked out?

My thirty says, disturb others. Example, during private times, when people are talking, when people are involved in activities. So this is really tough.

You have to come with receives on you.

You do not do this in in fact, I really.

because I want .

people .

just start me.

I gave me a zero.

okay? I got a zero guys that's like, no, that score on this desk. Wow, so the the accurate .

score is the best score. E wow.

okay. And sorry, get to calm down without little bit. Well, we are happily, thankfully, closing the doors on the physical mehee thy poo and we're slide in on over to the second outbuilding the voice mail nics. This is your opportunity to instead of emAiling us and just call us up, you can do that at what's the phone number?

Five, six, two, three, three, four, two, three, eight, nine, right? I said, five, six, two, three, three, four, two, three, eight, nine, right? good. Okay.

you do know .

where we go. Hi.

hi ron. ron. Jail living the test wednesday, december four, is paid around here listening to IT works and much .

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talking about on a group committee chair for group take before .

of a thanks for a volunteer.

What was called the boy scouts program IT is now that is still IT is scouts ba the overall national program of the ministers? Everything is scaling america, which is officially doesn't take that name until february ery eighth of twenty twenty five IT is still officially voice as of america, but the council and national all that are encouraging everyone to start things scaling amErica now to get used to IT.

So you .

say boy scouts, I think it's okay. There's some people really like, no, no, no, no, just the proper term. You know you have old scouters out there. Boys, twenty years. So now that's me.

I was .

a boy can get .

little .

emergency box rate from truck. I keep now because I go out and nowhere little and and first, but yes, again, the program itself for the junior AI and high school age boys and girls is scouts b, sa. And the special program is out in america.

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changed IT.

again.

This is right. K, E, A, L, J, L, thank you. honey.

Let us know how your emergency box gets ready. Hopefully you score some good .

deals for your body. Single, the five days.

Hello, H R C P part gast listeners extra, gosh and general layer. What a person you're doing. great. Thank .

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How everybody dies like friday went IT. If you get all that you wanted, I did. I was able to get a new digg ninety just I wanted I hear that they can turn up like a steal in IT of metal so won't definitely try that out.

And a couple of coffee in radio in hand is, what about your off the goal? Get some cool deals on black friday. Hope is because everyone is some really cool als out there. I was even able to get my bed some haberi a stuff that I hope you're going enjoy first, first get that's nice.

I saw your .

video review of the new j to radio, but is the thirty one fifty five I problem? I want if I got IT wrong and so hard, and i'm going go here and call IT the the A S P. Stuffin IT.

I'm betting you, anybody going to sit there when you're on that radio? Look, I be like, 嗯， that as though that s not the other the world you want to player for that but that's all that i'm done with my ramblin but before I go um you know three means before and post means after but do you know use them both at the same time would be proposed to. You, I can't renounce anything, so and I want to follow you. Would this one is that was the difference between a dad joke and a bdk? The first letter.

nice. Thank you. Thank you. I actually included that in my videos. Like, what do you think about dad? As though because it's audio signal processing.

they just make IT asp.

All right. So I don't want to get you started on a naming convention, but yes, you did a whole number on that one.

what.

So the radio I reviewed, which is a new version of a another easy radio, is the F T thirty one eighty five. What that's the the title of IT is .

there are other thirty one hundred.

So there was the radio that is has replaced ha, is the, is the F T twenty nine eighty.

why? why?

So the eighty and the eighty five implied the power output.

Oh, okay. So now this is okay.

But the twenty nine and the thirty one have no bearing. Hi, there's no, there was no thirty. There was no thirty. why? I don't know. I don't 不了。

I can only assume there that there's just a lot of things shelved. The assign numbers, two things they are not and they're not releasing that iteration. They're moving on to the next one. And they maybe .

now the other thing is interesting. They can know with three radius.

and that's why the companies go backwards in numbers two because they bring something back that .

they were working on. I sure. okay. Yeah, I like that.

That's at least that's lesson very right.

right? So what what's interesting about the new models of radios are three, as I mentioned, two of them are mono banned, two metre radius, and one of them as a dull band radio k and the two monovalent radios are like F, T, thirty one, eighty five. And then the little brothers like an ft, something, sixty five, but then the the the door band is an F, T M one of five. What yeah, is there a five one? No, it's fifty one.

Get out.

And that doesn't make and he says, so okay, so yeah that that is the the little brother is the, okay so at least that nomenclatures right. So the two radios that are mono band are the F T thirty one sixty five sixty five output OK the bigger brother thirty one eighty five five what output and then .

the door band is the F T M one fifty and um .

the the radio that IT replaced was the F T M fifty nine hundred eighty nine hundred.

What i'm going on to the next boy, mel.

Hello.

hi I T .

it's .

beautiful.

So I just wanted to mention a last week I was, I guess I I took that that I was some kind of a week collar or something. I talked about the four like four words for love and greek just so that if have different meanings um so what really is is that comes down to um I give an example of you know when you get like the very translated man you like, you're like chinese rado I don't talking .

about a fantastically translator IT was .

just like quick like to run IT through like gu translator, something like that from some chinese to english so what is this? If someone wants really like a really accurate or a good translation of something, you just want to know what each of these words mean, have a description of what they mean, so that even over I want to different language, you have the concept um to trance um I personally got to that information um for people that use that for a bible translation because if you believe that the bible is the word god, then you want to make sure that you're accurately getting information so um so you want to make sure you have accurate just as you want to make sure you have an accurate in radio menu, someone so you know exactly how you're supposed to and also tending to use a radio um so that's um the different means. So you get the actual feel and understanding of what um word means and that's what I do based off of IT from the organization I am part of as one of the horses. So yeah I was just spearing that that's why I I drop that out and have that kind of noodge .

we appreciate now just danger.

This is here on my kind of thing. Always work gracy.

Thank you, Nathan. Now is time for the last voice.

okay?

Sila forgot to take the a hd test this week, yet score yourself four points. Have A.

What Better?

I did not have my work materials in front of test of doing the podcast.

All right, we'll thank you, everybody who left a voice, mae, for the a voice moul e anees.

yeah. Anybody can send a voice 没有。 And we love IT because that means it's one less thing for us to do other than me. A shift some norms around and get your sound in the best you can lay what's that phone number again?

Five, six, two, three, three, four, two, three, eight, nine.

wonderful. We're moving on to the tower.

Hello, hello, welcome to the time. Hello, hello, welcome to the door. Little reading your email on attention. Thank you for email like IT here.

Indeed we do. You can email us at layer at ham taco dot com. We would love to hear your stories as you engage in amateur dio tels, which you have been up to, and you what the progress has been if you started out in hammer radio.

This is a good opportunity to tell us about what you've been up to. We'd like to hear IT. Uh, we also take your questions as well. And if you have an idea for a merch store and tactical dot com and he sent me to us an email layer likes IT and puts IT on the website, we will send you one for free. So thank you. Everybody who engage es, take a look at the website for some thoughts on kind of the direction we go with a lot of our stuff, but we love to hear your ideas. So okay, let's get started.

The first Simon is titled my path to amazon extra and this is from then this says, hi josh layer, I really appreciate you and layers podcast oh, thank you. Always entertaining, funny and informative. This year, I managed to pass all three license exams in roughly six months time.

right? It's a three fr.

Regulations that that is much shorter of a time than I did IT in.

Yes.

dance is not bragging on myself here. Rather, I wish to commend the resources that you regularly promote for each exam prepped, I read through the corresponding gordon west guy not focus so much on memorization, rather than simply try and absorb concepts. Keywords eeta. Once the read was complete, I drilled the ham studies site every day, a little or a lot for about two weeks. The great method, you again, not gloating here, just thankful the golden west guys and hand study combo was tremendously helpful because for three tests, a hundred and twenty questions total, I missed .

just one 哇哦。

scoring thirty five at thirty five, thirty four out of thirty five and fifty out of fifty, then very impressed .

resolve then .

signs off. anyway. What a great hobby to take up.

I just wish I had done this thirty years ago. God bless you both. And seventy three, then? Kj, five. G, Y, Y, well, dk, j, guy.

K, J, guy.

well done. That's fantastic. Super impressive. Do you have like a degree in electrical engineering? Yeah.

I mean, I know I know what that was soon, but this soon might be down the .

technical path alright. Uh, so this is this is not supposed to be read on the pod, but IT is a question that I think a lot of people would like the answer to. And IT is preferred lodging choices for hamper tion? Or or do are there places that you would avoid also?

Um I don't have enough reference to have a reference to tell you what to avoid. I highly recommend. And this is this is a strong recommendation. Go to the ham caution website, pull up their hotels area and fail yourself of the links for the hotels there. For now, I think three years running, we have stayed the rose in on international.

There's a multiple rose.

I'm going to explain that in greater detail. But the the great part about this is the rooms are completely service able. There is a mcDonald in the parking lot and the so there's like no amenity to this place, but it's like seventy five blocks at night. It's it's not bad. It's clean. It's good.

You know what's really funny is a when you stay at a hotel like that, I think that's like that's a guy's trip. Sometimes you stay at the embassy, sweets instead of camping. And i'm like, oh, that's just you being fancy because you want somebody else to make you breakfast. No, no, I stay at.

I stay at the embassy. Sweets, because that is where the show is for hunt fill.

Yeah, super convenient.

There is not a lot of convenient options in orlando. O to get to him casion the fair grounds where ham cation is, you would not want to stay by. You don't want to state it's not like it's not a bad area, but it's also not like IT IT would be like staying any small town.

It's like we could stand or landa, right? And the advantage of being um at the rose in is it's not too far down international boof AR to the part where it's really traffic. But at the same time, it's super a Jason into a ton of different places to eat.

I I think one of the reasons you don't ever .

push me to go to hamper ation.

I know you would you would like me to attend every show.

I think that you are less .

enthusiastic about me going to ham casion because you know that I probably wouldn't stay in the rosen in. I would stay closer to the theme parks.

and we can stay wherever you want. If you want to go, I will stay in whatever hotel you want.

I don't care. We going to go stay at one of the disney resorts. We're gonna go to all the parks and then we're gona tell the kids that he cache is one of the disney lands. It's just farther .

out vacation land. We drive ourselves there.

Disney has a whole dedicated to her radio boys.

It's hard to be for seventy five books. If you want something nicer, then there is like, now this is okay. This is rosen apparently is like a guy. And he's like, hey.

there's this bull of the rose N. As like what in the shits career you think about.

So he apparently realized pretty quick, as did a lot of other companies, that, hey, this international bowl of art is going to be a big thing. And so they just put a tono hotels there and rose and I think has like two or three on international. So for him, you have to be careful when you're booking your room.

Now if you get the wrong rosen, congratulations, it's a nicer hotel, but you will pay more for IT, right? So just keep that in mind. Like your the the downside of staying further down international is that you will have to get out of there international socks like the traffic is bad, okay? It's like a two lane road and it's it's the tories.

It's two lane road .

like on each side, two lanes on each side.

And it's the main drag.

It's not the main drag is the main tourist hotel drag. I see the locals aren't .

going international .

this one Sandy ago. It's like on each with little island in the yeah it's going down. It's going down when any third like that, like that, but all the hotels and everything are going on.

People stop and just it's a nighttime. So the rose is good because there's freeway entrance like right out the parking lot, gas buggy, right right. Literally the morning for usually mike eye is we get the car, we hop out, grab mcc Donald's boomer on the freeway and were driving out to the show OK.

And then we get back and we go to the bar. So we always go. The bar is not bad there. Well, maybe go grab up dinner with people. We're usually going to getting dinner at every night.

but sure, you shouldn't have dinner every night.

Live in the home, fang. No, I mean, I get a restaurant. You know know it's a tourist area. The hotels don't want to serve you anything other than food they can make you pay for. There's no free like it's not like that.

Well, I hope that answers your question. I'm going na say your name because you ask for and not to be read on the board, but I think that was a good question.

It's great question. Get your room now because by the way, i'm told that this is the same weekend. I know where IT, but i'm told i'm being told that this is going to be a insane and caution, like just people everywhere.

Where will you choose to go?

I don't know. Do dinner's even going to be probably a nightmare. yeah. So anyway, there you go.

Do with that what we will. The email is, excuse me, entitled comforting sounds. Hello, john lea, in your is ham radio all retirees podcast, you play a very nice voice ml from k one m az.

Nathan. He related his experience going through the belongings of w one vz Charles cop at the request of charlies wife. Yeah, presumably charlie is now in assisted living.

Layer made a wonderful passing comment that a long time ham would enjoy having some memories, and that even the sound of static in the background, maybe comforting. Layer, I couldn't agree with you more. I've had the experience of being in unfamiliar places, only to be brought back home could on code.

Once I was listening to the hand bands, I would also bet my bottom dollar that most, if not all, who have ever Operated A D expedition from a barren island would say the same thing. The sounds of the hand band are familiar, comforting and make us feel that we are home no matter where we are at the time. After all, to think of all the hours of our lives we spent listening on the air, yes, absolutely. For those hams innocence of living where setting up a station is not possible, technology could come to the rescue. I did a quick search, and apparently there are websites that allow one to listen to hand rate your online.

presumably at no cost. I talk about .

IT all the time. True story. This is yet another area where youtube are a great team.

Thank you. Thank you. Layer, you have the heart to understand what may give an old ham Operator some comfort.

And josh, you have the technical coding quote chops to find out how you can be done. Seventy three and eighty eight. The O M email was profit by the y we'll thank you. O M N Y L. I I started proof reading your news letter and now I have my own section of the news letter.

Yeah, you just started as like, well, i'm here.

Yes, i'm just gonna .

ite something for you and then that sends me off to scramble and find pictures that I can in.

I think the first time I run an article was because you were short, very short, was like, yeah, I and then I was like, oh, I wanted talk about a activating my first post, right? So so if you want to read articles from Joshua, it's now in the hr cc news letter is .

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I am later it's not sorry. IT is a wealth .

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Okay, the next few minutes I will bought the g ninety bundle. Now what and this comes from my.

I swear I have videos on this.

Hi josh laa. Love the show, will thank you for listening. Technician license holder here, who asked, sent us else to buy him the g.

Ninety button from radiodurans, the radio, the rack, the C. E. Nineteen card and the case IT was time to graduate beyond these belphins and jump .

in to the H. F. Port for.

So now what I haven't even opened the boxx yet, but my understanding is that i'm going to need a power supply and an antenna. Is that about where I am? My basic goals.

My goals are basic pda in the ten meter ban. And to be somewhat portable, not alter light, just portable. I'm looking to make budget friendly choices, but i'm willing to spend beyond the bare minimum so as to have decently functional and reliable gear. If you were me, where would you start? And josh a is gonna say, I need a budget.

Oh, I thought you were reading that. yeah. So a budget would be helpful here because then I can dial in a little bit closer. So since you want to do parks on the air.

so think about the rose in of equipment.

Okay, good, but budget .

friendly.

So then he wanted do parks on the air. A power supply is probably not where I would start. I would start with a good battery.

I would go with at least a twelve and power lithium or lifetime. So nothing forest with live pole. Why do I always do that?

I always forget with the lithium. I foss fate. That's IT litham iron force fate. How battery go get yourself. So the stand out brands are gonna, bioenergy koo, their number of less expensive batteries. You can actually go to any one .

of my video cos Dennis.

cos Dennis. In this case though, I I don't think that is he. He mainly sells like six ampol in nine and powers which those will be fine for parks on the inactivation even at um at twenty watts but if you want something like twelve and up, you should go to my link and and i'll get later put IT in the shown note to give parts and you can use my coupon code, josh, and pretty much anything on that page.

And I think you can apply to other things on the website like batteries. You can add josh to IT in, get ten percent off. There are a number of batteries I think on my landing page, which will be on the link you can check out.

And so a twelve amp, our battery, the good thing about that and you will need to buy a charger if you don't have one, but you will be able to run that G T like all weekend long. And so if you're truly portable, we've got to packed things up the end of the weekend and put IT away or you're going only going to do a potent and that's all you really complete radio with, and that's a fine way to go. So check out the battle that I got linked out there.

There are solar options too, but those start to get really expensive. And you definitely don't need to start with that. You can just charge your battery up at the last year, really long time, you will be fine.

Now as far as in tennis, you mention ten meters, right? So the biggest thing I would recommend and the g is going to be great for this because IT has the the S W R sweep, the intern analyzers sweep that we like so much. You can make your own dipole.

You're only interested in ten meters right now. So build yourself a mono band, simple. Ten meters in china, he mentioned ten meters, right? yeah.

So there are a couple. There are so many plans online to do this. There are tons of different ways to do IT.

You can make IT super portable with IT just a couple of under a wire. Get yourself some decent coax those if you are not going to be in the field. I do like the messine colony coax with the orange jr, the yellow jacket. IT stands out very well.

And if you end up doing a lot of parks on the air, what you're going to find is as you're rangle and coax dragged through the dirt coiling and uncoiling IT, you're going na want something that's going to be a little bit more resistant. And so the potest six from messan polonia, which I will also put a link in the video to, are the podcast notes for you to check out, is going to be more expensive. But if you're really committed to IT and you really think you're gonna IT, you might will just buy the good coax now that you can that is rugged red and will handle whatever you're onna throw at IT and we will last you a long time.

You might just buy that now so that you don't have to just buy something cheap off of amazon, not get the signal out to your antenna that you want to, and then ultimately have to replace IT because the shield starts to go bad, connectors start to go bad, the myriad of things that happen if you get cheap coax. So those would be like the two, three things that you need. And then, yeah, that's IT get out there, started up that's the it's Better to start with like less and and build up based off of what you find through learning, through doing. Then IT is for you to just go by whatever josh says and then be like, I like have this stuff just was wrong.

All right. Well, my signs off on modern uptown. My K T, nine Q V N. Hopefully that answered your question. My, but now it's time.

All right.

the final email comes from dawn and its titled gutters and rain barrels. Hello, john lea. Josh layer is spot on.

Thank you. done. I always associate affirmation of when I am absolutely correct.

It's a and five. S, K, yeah. No, I .

done.

You need to put up the gutters and get those rain barrels. Oh, we have the rain barrels.

Well, we have what? Yeah, no.

really yeah. We do is on the second house, the red rain barrel on the side of the house.

do you? Oh, no. That things like, I don't know that .

we can use .

that the mosque guy came out like, that's full .

mosquitoes. And okay.

at my old.

at my old house, I had three barrels out. And I will get those out here at the new property soon. My barrels were one of the many key things I moved here as far as filling up.

My fifty five gallon barrels would fill up in fifteen minutes in a heavy rain, and they stayed fall around here of the cycle. L. L. Rain barrels. The water is very useful for grey water or watering the lawn.

And then though out the podcast you all were talking about lifestraw and soil filtration, having a good source of great water around the house has many use. That's why I had three barrels during drought. Having that water to water plants and even flush toilets is great.

And there are lots of projects you haven't tackled. Rain gutter and tennis are a thing, as well as all the meshta tic project you can do with sensors and rain barrels, a project I really wanna get to just do IT. Yes, josh, just do IT meta tic rain barrel project too, a lot in one year while you're doing IT, you can also build a free little library after that because you will have already started a meshta tic project.

you know, done.

I appreciate you. You general of the don army.

can not general of the don army, general A E Y mo of the dynamic, my five star general of the don army. You've just been promoted. Going to talk about this tomorrow on the light.

and that every three from done. And five.

S K T. right? good.

Thank you. General, done.

So layer what I need you to do, just like I tell everybody with the antena pics you, is, I need you to take an overhead screen shot of our house and take your little apple pencil and draw where you want the guts to be. Okay.

just around the house .

you make IT sounds so easy, but the problem is that like a lot of our roofing has the grading on IT and usually you you do your gutter horriston tally and horriston tal yeah so we love to think i'll have to figure that out apparently. Well, thanks, dan. Thanks everybody for your feedback though in your emails and your voice male and everything you do, we really do appreciate IT. And as always, we have a lot of fun making the podcast in the fact you listen means a lot to us. Seventy three.

seventy three.