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Ep 104: Will AI Replace Coders? Terminal Co-Founder & CEO Dylan Serota

2024/12/6
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Dylan Serota认为AI提高了软件工程师的生产力，尤其体现在初级和中级工程师的日常任务上，使他们能够更高效地完成工作。然而，AI并不会取代软件工程师，高级工程师仍然需要负责更高级别的架构设计和决策。AI更像是一种辅助工具，例如拼写检查，它可以提高效率，但无法完全替代人类的创造力和判断力。 在全球人才招聘方面，Serota指出美国技术人才短缺，导致公司不得不转向全球人才市场。他认为，得益于自学资源的丰富和大型科技公司在全球的扩张，软件人才正在全球各地涌现。他强调，公司需要全球人才，但获取和管理方式各有不同，需要根据自身情况选择合适的策略。 此外，Serota还谈到了传统外包模式的弊端，以及Terminal平台如何通过透明的激励机制和工程师的自主性来解决这些问题。他认为，Terminal平台能够帮助公司更快地建立全球团队，并为工程师提供更好的职业发展机会。 Joe Lonsdale强调了AI对人才招聘的影响，他认为AI正在改变人才的运作方式，对人才招聘产生重大影响。他还谈到了AI导致虚假简历和申请增多，使得招聘过程更加复杂，许多公司正在回归传统的面对面面试，以应对虚假申请的增加。他认为，美国创新生态系统的独特之处在于其灵活的商业环境和人才流动性，这使得美国能够吸引全球人才。他最后建议年轻工程师应该注重培养与他人协作的能力，因为这是AI难以取代的技能。

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The pre-COVID notion of building a team within a small radius has been replaced by a global approach. The US faces a deficit of technical talent, driving demand to global talent pools. Software talent is emerging globally due to self-directed learning and the expansion of US companies into different markets.
  • Demand for technical talent in the US is outpacing supply.
  • Global talent pools are strengthening, accelerated by the pandemic.
  • Self-directed learning and open-source resources have enabled software engineers to emerge worldwide.
  • US companies expanding globally contribute to the training and growth of talent in different markets.

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How is AI augmenting software developers? Will it replace or commoditize certain roles? And how should aspiring engineers prepare for the future?

This week, we're joined by Dylan Serota, co-founder and CEO of Terminal, to discuss AI's impact on one of the most important aspects of company building: talent. After graduating from the University of Pennsylvania, Dylan headed to Silicon Valley, where he helped build and scale global teams for Eventbrite. After seeing the flaws in traditional outsourcing firms, he set out to build Terminal — a new model for a global talent platform. Behind the scenes, Terminal is enabling some of the fastest-growing tech companies, like Hims&Hers, Chime, and NextDoor, to hire and manage teams around the world.

We start our conversation with global hiring trends and how AI is transforming the competition for talent. Specifically, we discuss how new AI tools are augmenting coding and impacting demand for high-skill versus entry-level developers. We also tackle the challenges in building global teams and why some companies are reverting to face-to-face interviews and tests. Next, we explore the misaligned incentives in traditional outsourcing models and how Terminal differentiates itself. Finally, Dylan offers his advice to young engineers on how they should prepare for the AI age.

00:00 Episode Intro

02:00 The state of global talent

05:00 Why is Nike hiring thousands of engineers?

9:00 Will AI replace coders?

13:30 AI screening vs in-person interviews

18:00 Why is traditional outsourcing broken?

22:20 How Terminal helps startups scale

26:00 Advice for young engineers This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit blog.joelonsdale.com)