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Okay, bread, today's the day. Oh, it's it's the super bowl of black friday sales. Black friday.

black friday is the super bowl of black friday is not a little total .

logical look is best not to think IT look a world where everything's on sale all the time. And it's like I started getting black friday emails and it's like in september this year. IT seems like .

no um partly I think .

it's quality to this podcast, but also partly because everything's like what prime day it's sometimes is in the summer is IT like september? I don't know, man, I get emails about prime day all the time. I turned off emails from amazon.

I get so many emails about prime. I don't need to know. No, I feel like we talk about deals on the full nerd this week like PC building deals and went down category by category. And it's like a little roughly, you don't buy a video card right now unless you really need a video card, right? really.

Why is that?

Rumor is that intel is about to the launch battle age the the new thing in their new second change GPU, which is quite good because it's basically the GPU from lunar lake anyway just need to get into its nice um presumably there's big in video and AMD keynotes as C S in like a month and five days. Yeah leaks leaks .

are pointing to the fifty series and video accords being announced.

yes. yeah. And and also A M D has stated that there they are basic. They are basic. They don't care about high and they are just going after like video cards, Normal people by this generation.

And I mean, maybe IT, hasn't they tried that before and they didn't work out great when they didn't before. But I don't will see point is don't buy video card right now, less like current one broke or something. The one place where there were some crazy good deals is on A M four. If you have an old ab d motherboard, you know aim for the socket that .

refuses to die.

you can get you can get like uh like a um uh uh rising fifty seven x 3d fifty fifty seven hundred x 3d which is an eight core v cash like still one of the top five CPU for video games for like one hundred and seventy nine had to buy a bundle to get that。 But like it's crazy. The deals are like their flood micros had a real cheap, everybody, really, really inexpensive.

No, look, sometimes that long live CPU .

socket pays different. Dds, yeah, it's the thing. It's the thing that strikes me about the the, like A M D coming out with in five and saying, hey, this is going to last for a long time gives you a big advantage because you can buy a cheap CPU now and planned upgrade in a few years when there are less expensive and it's like it's kind of compelling .

no going back to the shopping craze yeah where do you fall on the black friday ever, the cyber monday split because there's like three things i'm on the hunt for and there are some deals out there now. Yeah, i'm like because IT is black friday at the time of this recording. Should I pull trigger today or should I wait for monday and see if anything, it's Better knowing that there's a risk that the current deals could be gone by then?

Well, okay, so i've been in a real life relationship with the human for pretty much the entirety of the internet existence.

So I i've never .

cyber before um as well I don't know men, I don't I it's funny that so that I buy for deals like I bought a set of shelves like guitar hanger size shelves so that I have a Better way to store my guitar than putting IT in the bag every time i'm done playing with IT hang IT up in the closet. Um I don't I don't buy a whole lot of specific stuff. I I buy gift for people I guess is the maintain.

So I I kindly just keep an appeal and then pull the trigger when I go. And Alina, A P C world pointed out that because we're in that holiday return window time, your return windows on a lot of, on a lot of retailers right now are until like mid january or end of january. sure.

So you can buy the thing on fright today. And if you get a Better deal as cancellable and return IT, especially with some place that does not charge for returns for an open returns um and then and then you can get the best of both worlds. If you're buying services, that's a little .

bit different thing.

Money, I an speaking their terms in the service, terms of service that specifically say, hey, you can cancel this and we're not giving your money back. You can to close out the remainder of your term but were no refunds. So yeah, I don't know, man. I I, I, I my other thing is that as soon as I buy the thing, I kind of and I know i'm leaving money on the table by in this, I try to stop obsessing over yeah.

that's probably the right way to go.

Like when we got the car, I stopped looking at car deals because I was just going to make me crazy and sad about the amount of money I spent that I could have saved.

You mean, like back when I bought that, that many lead T, V, which is just like, I want to hate that there was a couple things Better I wish were Better, but I bought IT because he was very reasonable Prices and paired to an OLED. yeah. And then like two months later, the OLED I would have preferred to get was the .

same Price bradd. Let me tell you about the LED sales on black friday. They cheap, real cheap. I'm i'm looking i'm looking at the peason ic, think that maybe it's time, but it's also not time.

Where is that? pastor? Icc, cheap.

No, no, no. My old plastic.

H oh, you mean your panic .

plasma at my good T V, yes. Yeah, it's time. But also we're going to go. We're going to vancouver in a week, so i'm not spending .

any money right now. Yeah, that's fair. Well, look, for every TV, there is a .

season turn, turn, turn.

Welcome to brand wilma jackpot. I'm well, i'm brad. So yes, we're going we're .

going to vancouver to the test the coup.

yes. So when Taylor swift came through seven go, we didn't. Gina has been on the lottery for Taylor's swift tickets.

My daughter sailors with, my wife life tailors with since the as a result I also by the by the tractive A A transitive yeah I believe I believe would be the transit transit property. I also like Taylor swift IT turns out. Um so he got in the lottery, the fan lottery, to buy tickets not from sculpins every like for L A. And Serena go in portland and seattle just out of habit as the last stop on the this worldwide you're a half long tour is in vancouver, which isn't that that far for us.

He got tickets. Okay learn .

and paid face value for ACE face value canadian for tickets to tailor swift. Now we did that. We have, we have to go to vancouver to see Taylor swift.

Well, not to be clear, like a flight to vancouver versa. Basically a flight to seattle, right? Plus twenty minutes or something, get about thirty minutes.

But the flights there's a lot more flights into seattle and a lot of your lights into vancouver. So we are ended. We're flying to seattle er and then winning a car and driving a quas.

Oh how far is that drive? Like to hour and half so that but mainly because the hotels and see in vancouver because there's not that much hotel capacity in vancouver are like fifteen hundred dollars a night. Yeah, the vancouver went to full on gouging mode.

Oh, you mean you're staying in seattle driving to the show.

So we're we're saying a vancouver for the night of the show, like outside vancouver the night .

before boy or yeah.

it's a process elaborates.

How are you going to the show yourself for? You just shape red? No.

see, this was we had this come because we could have sold my ticket for a fairly substantial amount money. And I I am going to the show. I have a costume, everything we're to the last, last show of the tour.

It's a big deal. So you you are a not so secret swifty IT turns out.

I mean, look my out. Do you want know my out? IT is sure.

you know, he has that .

song and he talks about star cross lovers. But IT sounds like he says, starbucks lovely. So I got an April that has the pattern from her album lover on the cover with the heart, the Sparkly heart and I got a starbucks starbucks like breast April uh patch .

putting the .

patch on the on the .

April so look, you're tune with youth yeah I understand .

I understand what the kids .

cave .

um so anyway yeah so also a unready we have to record the podcasts for next week, early this week. When I think about IT, i'm going got next weekend well, let's go to know yeah, I didn't. I should have party communicate that earlier.

But anyway, you know, okay, now we've covered that business. Do you want listeners of this podcast? Cave answers? That's right. I mean, I look.

I want answers too. I love answers once a month.

whether they like IT or not. Yeah.

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the beautiful people, right? And listen to the patch and episode. We just record IT .

about twenty minutes ago, yeah where we talked about the projects and things, things that aren't probably full episodes but of general interests. I talk about audio, a bookshelf. You talk about your cable sorting to talk .

about the great cable purse that is now under way around here.

Look, we all have a cable problem. That's the first step is admitting IT. Do I need .

4h my cables？ Probably not.

But what if, given that some of them probably don't even run tap sixty, you should just throw them all out. God sort about.

what if I had four devices that use micro USB that .

I wanted to use all one time? You're find just pug sequent hand.

Most of these cables are going to be clear.

just like most of these questions about .

to get answer yes, ine crop. This appropriate for thankful ving was yesterday time recording a cornucopia of questions here. It's true.

Shall we dive in? Yes, sure. Why not? OK OK.

Now we have permission. We have go on question email address. We plugged the patron.

We said, you can post in the question seeking answers channel. All of everything i'm proposed to do is done. Tell all you from here on out.

all inquisitive systems are go you get in here ah I will sort of the emails as we often do here from shan. Any new board game, win or holiday .

shopping season. So this year for us, we haven't done a lot of new board games because we bought a like thirteen or fourteen game legacy game for Christmas last year. For Christmas last year, we're got ticket to right.

Legacy, which is a modernization, pretty dramatic improvement of the base ticket ride like ticket right is is firmly for me to get right as one of those games is firmly in the fine category, right? Like it's like it's work when like you can play IT, you make your trains, you build your network. IT doesn't have like hard swings.

It's not super dramatic. It's not like an opportunity to do something goofy with your friends. You just sit down and and, and some time goes away.

The legacy version of that game starts with the birth of railroads on the east coast. Just should like running up and down the east coast of the united states. And then you add regions as you go on, like the players get to choose the regions and it's it's quite fun.

We played um we are like, I think game ten of our campaign. And uh so from first, don't know legacy games, legacy games, our games where we've talked about before in the show. But it's like you basically the game evolves as you play IT. So like there's the first one was risk legacy and as a as it's designed to be played for twelve to fourteen sessions and as you play and have wars and things happened, like things like you can know australia and then australia A S just off of the risk board at .

that point australia the discord something to talk about .

yeah um but but so ticket ticket to ride doesn't have nukes as far as we ve gotten to yet but you like there are like this up there's like mechanics around things like finding lost treasures and the in the in the old west and um no building circuses out of Flora and stuff like that. It's quite good. It's been good with the kids to with the three of us been playing at.

And it's the first time she's kind of engaged with the game that's like this, where you get to put stickers on the board, changed up, open all sorts of crazy stuff and give yourself powers and something that is quite good. That's cool. Um we also played a fair man of wavelength year with just three of us is not really a game we play to win but just kind of this is a little bit older.

It's a um it's a party game about being uh psychic. The ideas have this dial that has hit numbers on IT and you have a category that's like things that are good and things that are evil. And then you spend the dial, randomly picked the position where the marker is.

And one person has to pick a clue that tells people wear on this all the way left, all the way right. That clue would be so like um if like if one is savery in sweet and in the middle you have White bread like that would be to me like a straight up answer on traveling. It's quite good.

It's very good with a group of people that ends up having interesting conversations because, like last night, we had one that was hot, cold and IT was all the way almost to the hot side, but not all the way to the hot side. I was like the surface of the sun. And you know you I know that that there are things hotter than the surface of the sun.

oh yeah, like the core of the sun yeah.

or things in the laboratories in in, in, on earth even.

Or like, I believe when the pistol shrimp fires, IT is briefly like a micron do really the surface of the sun is not that hot, I mean hot, but is like, not actually like as hot as you think.

See, this is the kind of conversation .

you got to have on pizzle shrimp surface of sun, the energy physics of the pizzle shrimp. Oh, boy, this is is a, this is course material at stanford, actually. Oh, okay, need snows to check.

Actually, i'm on.

This is literally for a physicist on redit, the temptation of the service of the sun, four hundred or story, four thousand and eight thousand kelvin, not very hard. Somewhere to the temperature of the earth core, for instance, says this, they go, anyway, this is an answer. Nobody asked.

Four thousand. Calvin, huh? yes. anyway. okay. So anyway, my placement of that was a little bit low. Then I, I have been higher. I should have been the core of the sun.

right? Case in point wavelength that leads to metrical .

conversation yeah um the last one um is blueprint of medical ludwig. This was a kid started that I back years ago and just came out this year. It's um it's a very of castles. Medicine ludwig is a classic game.

You have to build this, uh, crazy castle based on requirements given you by A D mad king ludwig IT dead comes with cool pieces and you have to play more on the board and this there's scoring. It's like a work basement kind of game. Uh, the blue prince one, you draw the rooms that you want on a piece of volume and you end up drawing a different castle.

Tram is a IT is a fabulous, fabulous game. I don't know how hard IT is to get post kickstarter, but if IT, if IT comes up again, I would definitely, if you like that kind game, I would definitely grab IT. The only knock against IT is that you do have to use a yellow coloured pencil, and as a result, is sometimes kind of hard to see if your room is we have a, we have warm, warm film ament bulbs in our dining room.

And the yellow pencil is basically invisible in that context. We have to place during the daytime. And then the one thing I will really recommend is, for Christmas last year, I got a table mat. That's a neoprene.

It's like it's like an eight of an interesting nearing that just rolls up and we put IT down on the table when when we're playing games ah and it's it's much Better than working on a voter close surface because IT like the cards and pieces and stop, move freely, it's really easy to manage. IT was like fifty bucks. You can get them custom sized for your table with the right curbs and stuff if you want. Um but I I literally can't recommend them highly enough is a fabulous addition if you play on .

the board games sounds cool um here is an email from jane or perhaps you on do I just get extremely lucky or is there no need for regular refresh stalls of windows nowadays? I'm running a machine I built in two thousand and fifteen and I actually never, not even once did he reinstall IT is decide from a new G, P, U, A second S S, D, and me having to decide my dims once.

IT has been running for almost ten years now, software issues in the hardware failures, nothing from basically all of my old builds. Prior to this one, I remember me having to reinstall windows ever so often, like once a year at least, I really feeling the need for a fresh install. Since when I was ten, though, i've never felt that urge, as I often hear you and other people from the tech world talking about reinstalled when, as every so often I was. Just wondering, would you still recommend the fresh install?

Or is this just an out of date headed? I I haven't. My machines generally st stay pretty and reinstalled. Yes, days.

I guy, I am at this point, and I can say this because i've been through multiple build in the last couple years. I'm pretty much like a one one good solid install at build time and then I kind of good from there IT seems like .

these days yeah. So the if you upgrade mother d specifically motherboard, I think you even a CPU, although like AMD heads some requirements about upgrading reinstalled windows when you move from like A A two compute tripled CPU to a one computer advice first yeah have since x that so now I just detects and reconfigures when you read all the chip set drivers but um but yeah generally speaking you can you just need to reinstall of you upgrade motherboard more than anything.

That's best the big one for me. I will always do a fresh install on on .

your other board. Now I will tell you, when my daughters computer come out and I switcher from intel AMD, I did the thing that's not a good idea to do, but I didn't have time to do a ll reinstall and move all over stuff over. I, I, I rooted IT into the old windows, install and install all of the drivers, and then I opened up the, uh, device manager and I cook the show hidden options, show items, things, and then just deleted all the show hidden items. You know, I mean.

let's stop. The worst thing you can do that .

was like three years ago. It's still been fine SHE at all the time. So know your my lodge by vary windows has got .

a much more the short version yeah and I think it's the windows .

ten I think the windows ten t cut over is the one um I feel like the way that they manage windows installs now is much more robust than they used to be. And you're much less likely to have a bunch of old craft hanging around the impacts your perf. yes. Um the other thing that I think people will do an upgrade for a reinstall if they have some ort of my I would generally recommend that yeah .

our our systems, like in general, have just got a lot of resilience. They're like there are much more I like I don't want to use the word container, zed, because that has a specific meaning in computing these days. But like there are much more kind of sandbox and silos off where they're like, like macos is the extreme example of that where the system volume in macos is really only these? yes.

So we can't be best with. So there is no point and reinstalled there. You can just do the option that wipes all the user data and you've got a fresh system again. You know we talked about like immutable table one destroys and like I know even windows has gone in a more like sandbox direction in ways so like but i'm sure that has .

a lot to do with that what this stuff that windows is doing to like um like if you have a if if you don't have permission to installed in application, you try to install in application instead of either fAiling or requiring you to elevate IT often will just put IT in your updating a folder now in a special installation location stuff like that means that if you have a problem you can fix IT by knocking your profile and creating a new one right um and and that's that's as IT should be that's that's how unique is worked for decades and it's nice that windows .

got up yeah you are right got like trio emails here. There are more like a fly eyes than questions I would say. Okay um to see here's one from pat last only last unit.

You mentioned all of our outlets, viral outlets should not be the face, meaning the two prongs in the ground on the bottom, the next kind of the face. We all know in the us. As the only way you ever see electroliers installed basically .

apparently is not to code.

They should be four tops side down. So we are we talk about that last time you mentioned, all elements should not be the face. They should be full top s side down. The reason for that is that you put the ground at the top so that if something medal slips down between a loose plug and the wall, IT doesn't work between the positive and negative terminals and just hit the ground .

and doesn't complete the third. So I saw two different responses to this. One was this one from pat, which is, which is, I believe that the rational the other thing I saw was somebody who link to a youtube video on a camera with the youtube video.

I want to say what was technology connections, but i'm not one hundred percent where they tested this. To see if IT actually works, to see if if it's possible to have a partially unplugging U. S. Style outlet and have something drop across IT. In short, and they couldn't make that happen.

I mean, be also contact the ground the same time.

No IT would to be just travel through the object. IT would have to go the trick. The problem, I would always bounce off the wall or role or whatever.

So like a screw driver, because of the thickness of the handle was too thick to fit down in that gap. So IT was a low percentage. That up shot was maybe apocalypto couldn't make that happen, I think seems like the kind of thing and engineer we come up with, right?

I mean, the really test that you have to do an our facial test rate. You have to like very carefully place a medal object across the two bronze and make sure everything touch, see what happens.

Yes, I do that as a kid. Once I made a really big Spark, a huge bang, and then shut off the electricity and half of the house. And then I got yet, that weird, that sounds. Phone, yeah. My close calls of election icy are valid and long.

Yes, there's one from alan near the beginning website. De two sixty one. You guys has some trouble with the port flanger. The turn flying comes from mastering audio on magnetic tape. They would play two copies of the same track on tape, dex running at the same time, and someone would push on the flying of one of the real, causing IT to slow down and fall out of sink with its cover part, resulting in the quote from effect, thought you might find this interesting.

and hopefully clears up the renunciation. I love, I love how many I love IT when something has a deeply analog origin, right? Like like there was another one, somebody else talking about the fact where you'd pull extra tape out and then pull IT through faster or slower on all real real yes, this is a call. Thank you for seven no um .

last one of those that I mentioned this from Colin regarding a mid duty pay once audio editing software, what you want is called to report. We got a lot of this. Yeah, i've been staring a ripper for years. Just intimidate.

I spent a good amount time learning to use report about right when when we started the spot cast, like running.

running off. So yeah.

I tried that. That was a disaster.

which was the sort of s sing plugging. Does that have an official plug in? Is more of a mod guy. It's closer to I can .

game more than anything else you you download ripper and you pay for IT and then you upgrade with this with this overlay that's mostly in german but has a kind of if I english translation the the upshot on reever was um I couldn't there were two problems very called one was that I was hard to think because the the wave forms displayed on the thing that we used to think didn't always exactly line up in the right places with where they were in stretching audio in in report was chAllenging.

Um the other problem was that I couldn't get IT to sound right, that the bigger problem was I couldn't IT to sound right. So we had we had issues getting um we use our audition tool chain. Uh you basically I couldn't replicate IT in a way that made both of a sound the same .

way we usually do. That's not a knock on sheppard or to say that you can't do IT in riper like as so much as you just didn't get there because like that to be clear, river is extremely, highly respected.

Yeah I I was doing in the time when I didn't have a ton of free time. So uh, it's entirely possible that I could do IT now. Um and actual party actually we was. I think my license is still Better off the check a box. It's it's a hundred and fifty for commercial.

I think two 5i was personal， twenty five for ero. The record policy is extremely generous also since we're talking about pay once software, yeah you get you get all of the major version you buy and all of the next one as well. So if you buy, like if you there are on seven point two seven right now, but if you bought IT at seven point of one, you get all the way through eight point nine nine analyse.

That's prety generous. That's a pretty amazing. I read ripper is a full on doll like it's just, I think it's just more than I need.

Audacity has been getting a lot Better, actually. Remember what we have, Martin, on the false pod? Yeah, not super long after he and music roup to over audacity, I got IT.

But this has been a little bumpy as we've been adding a much new features to IT. But it's finally they're working out a lot of the bugs and stuff. So it's it's more meeting my needs now than IT has been in the past. So I think i'm OK with IT, but my god, I I have been interested reaper for a long time, but I think it's just way more way more than than I need like put in perspective. I want to their site and pulled up the user guide one hundred .

and sixty minutes yeah it's it's a lot. It's it's yeah it's like unfortunate thing about addition is that really shoots the gap in the way that like of the finite software does on the on the graphic design inside where IT does like most of the things you need and the stuff that IT doesn't do, you're probably fine without like IT has IT has like the new thing about rappers.

You can use all plugins and get like whatever you can get a software mimic of whatever weird compressor the you want, right? I don't I don't know how to work that I just need a compressor. Sure if I just need a noise gate. You know it's it's yeah it's a little different market but all all explore, we begin. It's free to try to so .

you have a generous trial period to believe yeah .

it's sixty days full, full functionality. We're no no voice, no weird audio prints, nothing weird about IT. You can just try and um and also you don't need the commercial license unless you make more than twenty thousand dollars a year gross venue.

So so I I think this every time comes up. Fun fact, developed by a just Frankl, the creator of winning .

up that's cool. China, to just in Frankl wipes the love .

as as I fun where they know are right when we dive some discord, questions. So many.

a lot of good people, people you can tell the winter months are upon us because the questions improved dramatically.

Yes, A D, C, actual has a good question. Why do need to compile shatters on my PC? Is everyone set up so unique that they can just have an AMD and in video set of shares? Oh, boy, short answers. Yes.

it's not just, it's not just hardware. It's C, P, U. And G, P, U. Combination is also. So for people to know, the shade ers are the things that like the little tiny programs that are passed from the CPU to the GPU that describe how typically surfaces are manipulated. But something for texas is up like that yeah .

you can actually do all kinds of we're stuff and shared programs like fluid simulation and stuff like yeah yeah, like it's yeah .

for cator, a lot of like leaves transparency on leafs where light shine sums up like that. There's a brazilian little shader programs that run on every game. And when you play on a console, because there are, even in the case, the x box is only two skills of x box series acts.

And two skills of x box are three skeoch of xbox one. You just precompetitive of those and you bundle them up and you you download the right one for your console. And when you download the game um with with pcs, it's a little more complicated because it's the the configuration of the specific GPU you have the specific CPU you have android phil driver revision. So what happens is when you update your graphic drivers, often you have to recomputation the shapers .

yeah because I I want to do whatever interpreter or compiler and runtime they use over the traders is even changing from driver version to driver version yeah.

If you do like, if you, if you render to have you such involved to direct to twelve or vice for us, you'll have to recomputation cheaters often in that case.

And I was also, what is the architecture of the computer units? Changes at least suddenly, from morning graphics start generations to the next, like too many variables to account for. Here is the point in that could never, they could never pretend ile shatters that would cover ever use case.

I I understand that the capability can change even within the same family. So like you have three thousand and three thousand series, like a thirty forty which is a mobile part I think or totally then i'll be a complete different trader computation for um though though so the reason you do this is because the engines have to what's sorry is this when you encounter a surface that uses a shader or a material that uses a shader in the game, which is constantly right, if it's not already compiled the game, i'll have to compile IT ideally before that frame starts rendering.

Digital founder has done bunch of grey stuff about what what change your compiling is and how IT works. So you should go check out their youtube and take into that if you if your curios want to know more. But they um when those traders compile, it's gona cause a hitch if IT happens on the same frame or even sometimes the framework tube before because IT has to happen on the CPU and IT stalls the whole thing while IT waits for that compile shader to land some games, some engines will do the compiles like a few frames in advance, right? Because they can see the frames in the and no, no, we need this one. Lets do this shader compile really quick, still can cause hitches because that you're you're saturating memory buses and to like that um now this .

rave light on .

the steam deck because it's a fixed platform valve just precompiling the shares for everything and you you download them when you download a steam that game IT says dealing your precompiling ders and you don't want to do that on the steamer, which is really nice.

Theoretically, there's a world where we could when we compile our shadings for called duty on our steam game, IT says, hate you want to uploads this and the first person does that uploads IT and just everyone SE downadup a precompiling traders from that point forward for the exact same hardware configuration ation. Now whether that's a good idea in practice, I don't know. IT seems like it's probably a probably some security concerns there, if nothing else. But also IT means that value would have to maintain a giant database of all the graphics cards, all the configurations, all the sub configurations inside there and all drivers on all that. And it's probably easier to spend ten minutes compile shares when you .

install the new game. Um the thing i'm confused about in this context is why more games don't just do the upfront like link the shader precompiling like I think of duty does. You don't see if that often for how many people are out there very vocally despising the shader stuff you get in games for the reasons you're talking about, like surprise, more games don't take the Green of the step of just precombustion everything before you start to wonder. A religious wonder is like they don't want the bad look of having somebody fired up the new game and having to sit, watch progress bar for ten minutes.

I mean, part of IT is that elderly is a part good example of this because elderly every time you had a new shader, you get a frame hitch. yes. And and IT stinks. Um the people really complain about the hitches more than anything else on steam reviews. Like if you you're to get most negative launch.

I would absolutely rather wait two minutes to precompiling of everything versus deal the stutter. But I also wonder even possible to account for everything, you would need a compiled in a proof fashion.

Well, so like as with most things, if you think about IT up front and you're starting, then yeah you can flag everything and have a shade or compilation step in your in your initial if you didn't flag all those, you started writing shader programme is just to be clear, they can unreal or on unity writing a shader program is opening up the blue onida and connecting a couple of materials each other and connecting a couple scripts that probably shipped with unreal a when your graphic program was wrote and and like, you can make a bazile an shares without realizing you're making a bilion chadors.

So if if your data is clean and everybody's flag ing stuff appropriate a little bit, but the engine doesn't just do that for you. You have somebody along the way like the engine will let you write shatters and the engine will let you precompiling ders. But somewhere along the way, somebody has to make a list of all of the things that need to get passed.

The precompiling ted IT happens and um called duty activision ons. Typically pretty good at this because people really give a ship about stutter in competitive first person shooters. Fortnight handles this by just doing at the first time you load the map, every time they update the map or you update your drivers, which means sometimes you load up a game of fortnight and you get to the end of the flight path and you'd load in right at the very end because your compiling shares through the entire lobby waiting period. It's like there's no perfect solution for this. Unfortunately, the actually the perfect solution is that the graphics card vendors maintain a list of known good because they actually probably have the infrastructure and generate these in and they're generating them and up to them, delivering them to use to the drivers through NVIDIA or whatever you know, the prison master or whatever.

sure.

Yeah yeah, it's a complicated .

problem. sure. Um OK, how about a question from tactical tugg? I'm been going through the backlog g of episodes ily and an episode thirty nine brand seems a little surprised about apartments having washing machines.

Is this not a Normal thing in the U. S. For me, growing up and living in norway, IT seems like the most common thing ever, and I don't think i've ever been an houseful apartment that hasn't had a washing machine.

And if IT is common for governments not to have their own washing machine, why? Please explain this. thanks.

I think the purse, this question they're definitely talking about in the unit, right? Not in the building. I M so yeah, I have never seen an apartment in. Trying to think if I might have been like a really nice one downtown once or twice that might have had their own washer drier.

I, I had my last two permit, had washers and trials well.

in the city, at least in the I clear.

I think, I think I had to buy them. I think I provided them really. I lived .

in rally, but that was almost more of, I could do plex, town house, sea kind of apartment like that yeah that definitely had um had .

washer ban areas that seems like it's a little more rare in cities.

I have i've never lived an apartment in same from this go that had washed trial in the unit.

So we had I mean, in fairness, we didn't look at apartments that didn't have wash's drives in the unit after the first place we lived.

didn't have one, and that was not good for us. I so much.

Yeah, it's really nice to be to just wash laundry .

whenever you want. Sure is going to be clear. We have one in the garage er which is .

just walk on .

a flight stairs, which is the problem. It's is three books total to washing dry a load which is not terrible, but that means you have to keep quarters around all the time, which is real there.

Our friend lives in burning game in their apartment, doesn't have in unit, but IT does in the basement. And it's just a stant. It's a constant struggle of her going to the bank all the time to get coins.

Yeah, my girlfriend got blessed is on coin duty. He goes to the bank six weeks or something that takes a game of quarters out. And then you know occasionally you have to buy, not fight, but you have way on somebody else to and they're laundry, which is generally fine unless you're one of those people. And nobody in this building is, thank god, but the type people who leave their laundry y done in .

the driver for hours, nope, is a very awkward situation. I so before we had the internet connection washing machines, I put a motion sensor. I just stuck a motion sensor on the side of world washing machine inside of the driver.

So I could tell when I was running IT, would they vibrate enough that I was triggered the motion sensor and then you'd know that IT was off when I was off. And I would pop in notification. I would totally do that if I had basement units because then you would know the moment it's done, you just walk down there. I I don't know why is I think it's because we don't require IT like several.

I don't require that the people had to have uh diwan hers a few years ago as a consequence measure of um and people were really like obviously landwards were very upset about IT because another eight hundred thousand dollars thing that y've to put in the units but um but yeah IT IT IT seems like a thing IT seems like an necessity. I think there's also a difference in europe purposes, most of north, most of the united states, where there's an expectation that eventually buy a house if you can, is the bay area. That's not exactly the case because the houses are prohibitively expensive here. Um but in in most of the you know the non like we are renting is is a not a renting is weird here in the united states, I guess outside urban areas especially sure .

or just anywhere .

or anywhere.

Yeah actually um I should just move through onto this question for I think we're alone because it's kind of about living in the theory. Um I mean my fourth year studying in computer science in canada and will be graduating the spring and planning on pursuing a masters next year and possible P H D. Currently applying to several schools in canada, but also a couple of top schools in the U.

S. To specializing. My interests among these are stanford and bert. My question is, what's IT like living in california? Attending a top us school has some advantages, but living in california seems hard to imagine.

Is IT as dense and chaotic and expensive as that sounds to an outsider? Is living in and around silicon valley really a courier advantage? Is an is IT an enjoyable lifestyle? Or when you put up with for context, I have lived in larger and smaller cities across canada and attended larger and smaller universities.

My current city and school are smaller, and I think that has contributed to my success. We have great schools here in canada. A and my impression is that attending a stanford berk could be a career maker. What do you think?

So living OK, there's a lot time back here. Start the start of the back going to stanford if you want to work in a tech start up situation, is absolutely a career maker. IT can be like that.

Is that for networking reasons as much as for flow educational, like I think you're just going to you're to be in nothing but other people who want to do the same thing.

I mean, if you're studying the right thing at the right time, you know, people were hiring PHD out of stanford for a eyes stuff a couple currently, probably for hundreds of thousands of dollars a year, and and putting them in research ABS and research the old deal.

This, I mean, this is more of kind of a unicorn thing. But if you read about the history of so many startups that have become giant companies, is a funny to find out how often in the founders were like P H D. Candidates like google, for example.

I like were .

stanford.

stanford, Larry page.

uh, were like doctor or candidates who took their like horse M C research take into the google page break.

They took the thing that they were working on for their doctorate, right? Um you'll find there's a networking component to people. You'll meet people who are in the programs with you who end up going you like even if you IT doesn't work out for you and will work out for somebody else and that like say what you will.

It's smooth the way, right, good or bad. It's phenomenally expensive depending on where you are in canada. Like compared of vancouver, it's not super expensive, similar kind of Price range. Toronto OS also fairly comparable, I think, these days. But but compared to anywhere else in north amErica outside of like new york and vancouver and maybe seattle and L A, IT is an incredibly expensive .

place to live. Extremely, I think is worth an ces go at this point.

IT wildly varies. You can depends like if you if you are okay living in and like in in a rental house with five other people, you can find some deals. But it's it's not IT is going to be more expensive than you think even if you think it's really expensive.

I I like IT here. The people are great. There's a live and let live attitude to the entire region that's quite nice and refreshing compared to the rest of the united states.

Yeah like other honestly other the cost of living, I don't really have a lot of complaints like it's beautiful that is just from a natural standpoint, like it's one of the and I in five, we are both from I might not about you, but I happen to think western or CarOlina is one of the most beautiful places on the planet. But this northern n. California is is up there for sure.

I I miss the Green. I think about north n. California is Brown. About nine .

months of the there has always been a dry period, but then we hit this period of years long, drive outward IT was kind of always dry.

Yeah but but I mean, even when IT, even on years when IT, when IT rains, the way that about that usually does, it's still like you get up to a nap and stuff in the summer and it's Brown, Brown hills and Brown here. Like you don't wrong, I went to visit my parents in dc during the summer a couple years ago and I I forgot how Green and dense the undergrowth is everywhere that there's not an active attempt to keep IT from growing up on a razor swap um so so yeah I can definitely weird it's we are not having seasons for all intense of we have we have like wet and then the rest of the year I know yes.

yes, yes. I do actually miss the really pronounced seasons that I grew up with.

Yeah and as a matter taste though.

yeah.

I mean, you like you probably go on winter, having lived in canada for a long time. Yeah, the incredible.

incredible food area.

Yes, good, good. Like lots of good food from around the world. Safras goes one of the walking, one of the few walkable cities in north america. I think like you, you do not have a CTO live uh the south bay a little bit .

less so yeah you don't need a car .

down there for sure um but yeah I think um I think it's like if you if you get into stanford in a doctoral situation or maaster situation, they can punch your ticket in a way that is life changing. It's not for everybody. You still going have to work really bucking hard.

But I would not hesitate to go to stanford if you stanford I don't know if the outcomes the same for berkeley berle's. A little bliss of of a poll for that kind of wear. But that kind of degree.

I do not know, know how is these days. I mean, obviously start to say in the late seventies, like B, S, D, came out of there, like IT was a big deal at one time but yeah has been a while. Yeah um aren't IT about um an imaginative Susanne, how do you clean your USB c poor on your phone?

Say what you will about the lightning connector ports. They were easy to get pocket land out of. I still have a lighting port.

So i'm going to look at mine right now. please. A whistle. Yeah, mine. I.

I used mine every day. I pulled IT into the car, and when I needed to clean out is go like this. I get IT right up, get my mouth up to the hall and .

I go right and then it's clean. There's an audio demonstration for you. Yeah, you're welcome.

america. Um also, I have that you have a little brush, we talking about that before, but I used IT to clean off the keyboard and like dust the top of the microphone and stuff and IT has a little probe that is exactly the thickness to get in between the edge of the U. S, B, C. connector. And you can just kind of gently get IT in there.

Now here's a question I have for you and people. Listen, yes, what is your default pocket orientation for your phone? Mine is right side up. Screen facing out.

Oh, screen facing out. Are you mad?

I guess me, if you bump in to something and I just careful with my head, I guess.

oh, oh, okay, i'm left front pocket. Screen down, glass toward my side.

Screen down, screen down.

meaning the top of the screen. Is that taught my feet?

My else. You're really .

completely the outside of me.

Well, so I can when I put my cat, my and about ten years, but I think my thinking at the time was a the screen would would stand a lot more fortune if he was up against your but I was .

screen protector my mind I don't yeah .

yeah i've i've never done screen protectors also like the phone glass used to scratch away or fifteen years ago.

And IT does no well, so the thing is, if you look at the screen, the recited screen protector still is that if you use the phone for two years, and then you look at IT in bright light, where you can see all the microscale ches, it's still gonna a ton of little tinny scratches on IT. And they make me crazy and I can just peel off the screen protector and put a new eight dollar one on and .

there back in business. Yes, I mean my real seat, I just not care about the phone much more.

I mean, there is .

that um anyway, you go see this is this is a question I have been wrestling with myself OK bert, ron, how do you judge win to spend the extra money on purchasing parts or components from vendors with a track records for high quality parts versus whatever is cheapest but legit looking on sites like aliexpress, amazon these days, even the humble clippy is no longer safe, as this video from the T. S. Final shows.

I don't I electrical and nature. yeah. He notice higher than expected resistence across the new leds and found they were copper plated steel wire and could be picked .

up with a magnet that is nuts. So okay. So I think it's a little disingenuous to jm ali expressing with amazon, although maybe .

not far much difference .

aliexpress do with people with stalls.

Yes, sure.

And amazon is.

I mean but those new name names on vendors are just drop shipping the same parts.

I think it's more I think it's a little more structure than that, but you're not wrong. I think I think for me. So I definitely buy stuff without logic from ali express, without thinking about IT, right, like when I wanted cheap keyboard switches, I bought bags, a couple bags of them from from aliexpress, because even if they had high failed rates, they were cheaper than buying from, like a british shop in the united states.

And and I can wait three months for them to arrive. I think when you start talking about things with logic, IT gets a lot more if he right. So like we we we bought some like they're like game boy sized emulation boxes for six dollars from one of those sites of aliexpress or team or .

something they were .

so SHE were talking about. I have yours here if you want IT it's really, really bad, unusable. The stuff like the copper played it's deal wire is really like that to me feels like the buying allegation or clipsed is something I buy from electronics place yeah rather than amazon um things things that I buy from amazon are things that are boxed goods that are reasonably easy to tell if their counter IT.

So for example, I would hesitate to buy we talked about on the patron episodes fifteen in one cable tester for the continue tester. I probably would buy that from an electronics supplier rather than amazon, right? But like a fluke multimedia, I that I can tell if is is the real thing when I get IT that I probably buy ramas on that seek. So if if it's not something I can identify that its a counter fit or if I don't care that it's a counter fit, in the case of the keyboards switch, those are the two places I would probably go. I just I also know when I buy the keyboards, which is this can be a higher than expected fail because they don't testing and express by by twenty percent more than something .

that being way cheaper. I didn't realize both switches would be a thing, let alone like okay, to use I guess I guess it's not that complicated switches a switch. Man, yeah, that's fair. Um I ran into this problem just this week.

I need to buy, I I want three six food USB, three extension cables like no logic no no and that's just just just electrical signal pass along right yeah ah to run from the back of my nass around my death to where I can blood like external hard drives and easily every single extension cable in again, this is just literally male to female. You must be three. That did every single one I looked up on amazon or places like that had some user review somewhere are going like this thing only brings up as USB.

Two, when I played in in like like my the transfer speed is that of U S. B. Two, when I do the transfer speed test and not what I was getting with the direct table into the motherboard. You know like yeah yeah like there's just concerns about signal integrity or things like that not working, right? Like the race of the bottom on parts like that has gotten so in the wing, but the ended up just not buying anything. I was like, you know if I have to, to be clear, to be clear, the way I ask a sandwich behind the desk against the wall, I have to move furniture around to get to IT to things into IT. And I I finally threw my hands was like, I guess i'll just move furniture every time I need to play an external, drive them and do IT directly because I can't trust any of these extension cables and saying.

so I had that same problem um what I was doing so I have a couple of these anchor cameras that not l gadado cameras that need a USB three point one connection to work because of high hybrid rate and high depth. The maximum blanks on U. S, B.

Three over three point one cables is nine feet. And what that means is that IT works with most stuff at nine feet. But in reality you really want six foot cables yes um and I had to find I had I had to go I had the same exactly.

I went through some extends uh and I ended up just buying longer point point cables. So instead of buying an extension cable, I would do whatever the a the fat and pointer, whatever is yeah. And then you have just one cable, because the extender are the the problem is not necessarily the cable. The problem is the length, the total length exceeds nine feet. Once you do the, once you do the extension, the six week extension plus the six week cable IT IT comes .

with probably I didn't count for that possibility that the people complaining were doing something inadvisable maybe.

Or also, the more made, the more physical connectors you have in the chain, the less than you're .

going to get details to me that cut the vertit ity down dramatically to have to pick a specific mac determinate on because some of the lot of these USB drives use the weird little hybrid microsoft with the extra note you know, case yeah so hard hard in that a cable in when I could have like A A generic U S B A to play anything into.

So the other thing you could do is by like a cheap thunderball U S B, U S B dock and plugged that in under the desk and then just have a cable to go straight to that you, and that gives you then you'd have .

multiple ports coming out of that that short for the single port, but also its hard drives like you're fine, you be three, five per second, so you're probably one.

you're gonna be fine. yes.

Ah yeah no. And anyway, like I it's almost it's almost like the mid duty software thing I kind of like i'm ready for like a mid duty sort of like a electrical accessory cable brand come along like I do know I would pay three or forty percent more for tables that are like one hundred percent rocks, all guaranteed .

to work you said mid duty, what you said mid duty? What you said mid duty cable, sorry I mean IT this is what I really record two pockets and room um thing is the other reason I like amazon for this stuff, I know amazon like this is strike. Don't buy for amazon right now yotta.

It's bad. Their return policies really good on this stuff. If you buy a cable and IT doesn't work, then you just take you to the U.

P. S. Store around the court from your house. You don't have to anything to check back.

It's more the you know if you're busy, the time come in not having to test and the uncertainty of talking or not. And like maybe it's not clear if it's not working up to back or not and like, yes, it's just too much overhead.

So here's the other thought and this is a little bit crazy. Er the other thing you could do like I would expect most newer external drives to have USB c ports rather than the the many extended ones. Now you also could just shock those drives and getting .

a hard drive dock the and the drive into you. B the .

tall, the tall, the tall a plus. Yes, remember.

remember, regular as me be that you would point like your present. And yeah, so the driving culture I have uses a three point over version of that. So that's that's the other reason that just getting a link cable is is weird because that's even more specific than micro max .

also has a bunch of dry base. You could just put one of those things inside A A drive cage inside the the five quarter and drive by those.

Those are going to be full soon. Okay, I think I boss, my new arrives. OK OK shocks, shocking. The shocking has been good.

Friday is the season. Yes, you can always telling black fridays, because the best to deal on any dry Price counter resets to zero on shocks.

the top twenty, terribly on shocks. stop. Had an icon that i've never seen before that when you hover over, literally says, stop reading. And by the strike, oh, really, because I was the historic all time low Price on the twenty. Oh.

that's really funny.

I laugh out loud when I saw that, and then I ordered drive anyway. All right. Um how about a annoyed and tired with a question? Aside from apple wallets, do you recommend saving credit card information anywhere for quicker checkout? I do for on, but the empty s for the question stems from switching to a password manger, like one password.

I keep my stuff in my passport venture for two reasons. One is that makes IT easy to fill in when you're buying stuff. Two, if you ever lose your wallet or something, when you traveling, you have a record of the cards. And I make sure to date, remember on the back of the cards I can call in cancellable.

是 that's not a good one。 sure. I I still I tried to avoid saving card information with like retailer x like amazon has mine or now yeah I think like be an H I think i'd save one in there because I trust them.

I save them everywhere. Everybody .

gets IT really yeah for the event of we just can t the same problem. 那 debit car card is a totally different story。 Debt card is is Carry. Do do not save your debit card information .

with anybody ever. Well, I I keep in my one passed vote, but if one password volt gets breached.

I have larger problems. Retail, save your debit card information with random retailers.

Don't give your bank account information to people, right? I mean, I think that something you have to do in york sometimes but anyway, yes.

uh, i've been thinking kind of like and generally to this question, my apple all IT is great, but I have been thinking about how much is tied up in my phone.

These days that i've resigned myself to that being unavoidable. I more of the point .

I was kind of start talking about like, and if I ever lost my phone, that would be a real pain. The ask to disentangle all the stuff i've got in there and have to set IT up in somewhere else, or in a lot of cases, lose access to IT. Like, don't like I use genius scan to scan on documents into P. D. F. Yeah, i've got on a hard tour like no hard copy resave of like any any you know name something that comes in the mae on a sheet of paper that you don't want sitting around like I turn IT into A P D F and then get d of yeah ah but I don't like I should probably pay for pay two of genius scan that has I cloud sink but right now all those .

P D S are just on my phone which just great on drop .

boxes does that now do you and .

document scanner n into P, D F in the drive box and it's covered issue .

using genius and things like twenty ten and like I know the the notes APP on I O S also does that now. So i've probably also should just transition to do something like that yeah just copy .

IT over to something .

else although I ve found anything does great scale why as well as genius scan, maybe should try drop box version like the mote up and do IT as well, with turns a Grace coil and flats the document to make IT look like a photocopy. But I should look at some more of the services that I actually do pay for and see how well they're doing at these days because mean, actually feel bad for junior san. I guess they got sure locked, but that sound sounds like everything I have does this functionality as well. No.

IT was incredibly valuable. Like ten or twelve years ago. That was the only thing that did that. I switched draw box probably a decade ago and haven't look back.

I'll check that out. okay. I got a couple of mac questions. You're actually how we start with this one from patch, which I do you have an answer for and then do one more .

if you on third or fourth favorite version of logan from the x one with I patch on patch, but is not in. Okay, that took me a minute. Under no circumstance ces should you describe in his wolf eri's.

Patch got IT right. Patch asks with the recent changes in the mack lineup, including backdating, the minimum sixteen years bites of RAM to both the and three and m two macbook care, you think apple has flip the value proposition on its head to the point where they are a deflated recommendation for family and friends in the in for mac mini base model and the updated into macbook error based model? What what we're talking about here is that apple, when and recently after, after being on minimum, I get a RAM the cheap version right at the base, cheap E R.

Pricing for like fifteen teen years.

They finally just recently refresh ed, the entire product line company wide to uh started thinking about minimum thank god 的。 I I was say yes to this, but I also would have recommended .

IT even before that, Frankly. So having spent some time on the PC laptop side lately over PC world, I I am it's it's weird like if you're in the family a dollar a laptop of Price range, I think that yeah it's a safe bet, right? I think other people are making good laptops, but you have to do a little bit of reading in research. And the apple laptops are pretty, pretty safe to recommend. The weird thing to me is that there's not a lot of stuff in the five hundred two thousand doors or six hundred two thousand dollar rain, right? Like there's a lot of laptops in the under five hundred bucks range, and there's a lot of stuff that's like there's lot of gaming laptops that like eight fifty to a thousand, but there's not a lot of like seven hundred dollar laptops that are worth buying. Um and and I think like for me, thousand, like I mean i've had a thousand i've been five thousand dollars lus s laptops to last hundred and and fifteen years IT still feels like too much money consistently and um I I think that using my wife and one macbook air which is an a gig about model IT doesn't I was surprised by how not like if I used a windows laptop that only eight years a RAM and twenty twenty four IT would be unusable.

Well, now there's a thing here that I think a lot of people don't really know that there is a big difference between the way I OS handles memory verses windows on laptops, or just in general rather. yes. And the reason for that is that apple runs, there are entire stacks, software and hardware from top to bottom. And the stories they are using in those laptops is so fast that IT is actually an appreciable fraction of the speed of .

the realm at this point. Their page file can be .

crazy vas basically. And so yes, they are on on machines with announcement memory. They are very aggressively page to this very fast storage um which helps you feel way, snape er than you would on windows with an equal number around.

That said, i've watched some like youtube tests of the way this works because of course I have. And the problem is that on an active bike machine is paging constantly. So you're wearing U S D.

And on the machine where you remove the S, S, D and replace IT easily or at all, unless you send some special shopping, saw her new memory on for you, or new new flash, right? IT is hitting the way leveling on your storage prett. I mean, is is going to be fast enough to like where you're stored out before the practical end of the laptop's lives are? Like likely not, but it's still not amazing.

Oh like, yes, I get I get the aguer about its fields paltry. And I sure I sure got sixteen. I M one a couple years ago when I had the choice, but like it's not as bad as I would be equivalent ine.

the big thing for me is I hesitate to recommend an O S change depending on the person, right? yeah. When my wife wanted to get a laptop a few years ago, I was like, you should look at the max and SHE tried IT and SHE used IT a lot in the return window.

SHE was worried he might to set to back SHE was a windows person prior to that when when? But I would never recommend my parents, for example, to switch to a market at this point their lives, right? It's too much change, although buying a windows eleven laptop when they used to windows eight probably might be just as bigger change. So maybe rip to bed at all? I don't know.

Yeah may maybe not as big a change, but I definitely know what you mean like the number of people I see out there who switch from windows to mac and complain endlessly ly about things about mac wz that really just amount to it's different thing what I used to yeah makes me think like you were spot on with this like a lot of people like you'll see people complaining about like hockey is being different world like window behavior of being different.

You know and it's like, yeah like that's not like really quality tatis ly Better or worse. It's just different than what you're used to. You like individual persons tolerance for change and having to learn and adapt to new standards probably has a lot to do with whether you would get somebody to switch or not. I mean.

just for what it's worth, as somebody who's used both a making a PC regularly for a long time, having to switch which finger is the control equivalent? No, is is always a pain. I always have to think about that.

Yes, you not wrong. Arted whisky. I A bob. I moved to a mac for the first time in my life, and like there was absolutely a warning curve adjustment period, but what's like that all the keeper shortcuts died in and like set up a few little customizations. Like I feel like I was way faster working .

in the Young back brain is so plastic.

A lot of well, also windows has caught up in some ways. But like that back when expose was still fairly new and like the a lot of window management stuff they were doing was pretty unique.

Those back in the days and when we reinstall windows every year.

whether needed not indeed um we'll see the other mac question roke. Quick here comes from another bread.

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potential substitute bread.

Uh this is email actually um as i'm solidly dipping into the apple ecosystem after being a long time android and PC person and the announcement of the updated mac mini has Sparked a very strange question, how would you view the viability of the new infor mini as a light gaming option if games on steam and epic started to account for the new chips and workout enough to consider?

I um I don't the depends on the game, right? yes.

But so this is the other question that I mentioned earlier that I am interested. Great answer for like steam last I X steam still does not have a native ARM client on mac. You would have to run the EXO ty six team with roseta and I think that would probably go for most games as well. But I don't actually know yeah .

it's in its weird because like for example, frost punk too has a mac built right and relatively new game came out this year. Your selection of games that are available to you is going to be very low compared to sixty six or or whatever. You know you a more open platform yeah um now the thing you do get is access to apple arcade, which I think kamak games yes um I I looked when I when we got this question, I tried to figure out how to see which games were available on mac in the mac APP store and you can I I can't see IT on my come on a personal computer. I don't think I .

think they filter that by platform they detect to you using and just says.

hey, yeah, these are the apps you love from a place you can trust. And i'm like that's not what i'm looking for. But like, for example, value ham is available on the makeup store, so goat simulator is available with these five different versions .

of go simulator on the on the mac APP store. You know actually starting to push more times games showing up there that I think also work on back of us.

I think this stuff you're gonna is the stuff that has enormous cross across generational impact privates of fridays that all of those are available on the mac APP store looks like, no no, that's ipad. sorry. The um other thing this a problem with browsing this preview thing is you have to keep trilling down to see you can get into them.

And IT mixes up the mac and the and the IOS stuff pretty reliably. The big thing, I think if you're going to a live that mac life, you're probably looking at cloud stuff. So you're going to sign up for je force now or maybe x box game pass and play stuff .

through there with my guess ah the dark horse option here really want to get insane is installed. Asi, when exit yeah.

And then you can .

then you can use all the protein one based valve stuff to play way more games. But if you get multiple .

translation layer because you're going from A X ty six to ARM, though at that point. And yes, and I think experience is going to be bad.

I don't know for sure that I ve seen people, people say is actually quite good at this point. Bigger thing is i've i've kepi on a saw he for a while and I think they're they're getting there slowly but surely. But there are still like I think they're still fairly major components of the hardware that aren't supported IT.

It's like it's that's always going to be an enema relationship between apple and the people making that. And it's not going to be what you want .

the people making us. He, from everything i've seen, seen incredibly smart but also yes, it's like they're swining upstream against applies close ethos.

That said, the new magnets are some hot business.

And yeah and and I think the Price is really catching people die because the isn't the base in for mac many .

like five ninety nine that cheap er is the case that's the cheapest mac you could buy for in recent memory.

Yes, I believe that's the case.

How quite five ninety nine go yeah that that is a that is a cheap computer is a very.

very fast on just also on the I I topic, I I look forward to putting A I E on my m one macbook pro and like say five or six years so when you retire IT from your day day, use one another. That laptop feels like it's no longer my daily driver. I look forward to putting on IT at that point. That seems right. Alright, shall we close with this cake?

Better question. A boy, yeah, i'm ready.

You're going up to help me fill out all this year. Can we get a chart here list? I think the line chart is a tear and the Smith chart is as year and even what a Smith chart is.

Well, that's because you're not over wikipedia on wikipedia dot org ise wiki zed chart. Oh, looking at the list of common charts and let's on t look.

that's a beautiful chart.

Which one is Smith chart? Oh boy, that's like a it's like looking down a hole.

I know there's something that .

there's a dimensionality .

of personally.

but IT looks cool. This is like out, this is our April fools ever said this, like fifty different kinds of charts on this, on this page. Here we have, let's just do the the most, let's just do common charts because is four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten thousand, eleven, twelve.

There OK. We have the histogram, the bar chart, the pie chart, the line chart, the timeline chart, the org chart or organization chart, the tree chart, a flow chart, area chart, cart o gram, which appears be a map with stuff overlaid on IT, had gree chart and the radio tree. So like, tree chart is like a, hey, you start with one thing at the top in IT spreads out to have other things underneath that kind, like a pete's ory chart. But a Petered ory chart seems to be purely genomics.

And Petered ory chart is what you imagine like a family.

You a flow chart obviously started with one place and go through a series of decisions to get to the other. End area charts are just line charts with stuff underneath them.

It's easy to figure out the distinction between a history m at a bar chart seems somewhat academic.

Histogram is is a count of, is a, is a chart, is list accounts, and it's a specific bar chart.

O so as so all the grams are bar charts, but not all bar charts or integram.

I am not a statistician.

but I mean the same yes .

right um history m is a series of tabular frequencies, uh shown as adjacent rate rectangles directed over discrete intervals in the area equal to the frequency of the observations in the interval first introduced collop son course literally sounds exactly a bar chart, of course. Um okay, i'm GTA say as as IT is uh international pipe for breakfast day in the united states today? High number .

one S K sure.

Um Smith Smith chart also s here.

Now I mean that's not in this this list of twelve basic charts that you have defined.

but you like people might accuse me of bias.

The same charge looks like it's like, again, IT looks IT looks there is an element of the artistic to IT yeah .

and also phenomenal naming.

you know like a good, a good plane bar chart, easy to read, communicates well.

No, I think no, I think it's too easy in manipur because you can change scale bar chart like you can't change the scale on a pie chart, right? It's always one hundred percent that's fair.

You know you're right. Actually the number of the number of like fox uses in for graphics, i've seen the very misleading ally manipulate the scale.

Yeah, like you cut off the last, you cut off all but the last two percent. The two percent that shows the change on a bark chart. And IT looks like crime stats are a nightmare. So yes, a barchon f for .

me about the line chart. Similar problem of .

like time over data though.

or day over time. Yes, yes.

So that's nice. And without a line chart, you wouldn't an area chart. I think I like the area chart Better.

That does look anything that looks like this should be on a scientific instrument is cool.

Yeah um I know I I think I line charts a solid sea for me. I don't know what do you think where .

where would you put in wine charts? We could be .

maybe be okay. Um I think an area charts Better. I think an area charts a for sure there a tiktok filter to make disease here. I'm i'm trouble kept up where we are with everything.

That's just everything these days.

Or chart f make .

everything should be flat.

Everybody's in charge. It's useful. Is is IT really?

yes. Can I see the anarchist storage zac chart?

What's the first ten posts? Just two boxes right next to each other. Perfect dairy child. Right there.

Flow sharks pretty good though, right? Like we describe an algorithm with the flow sharks as a circuit. Yeah, all sorts of stuff.

Yeah, I put hard like an A.

I think that feels like a .

strong a to me. Three charts. Try to figure how the tree art difc differs. If we get in this poligny, and try to figure how the tree art differs from the pete's ory chart.

I think the tree chart doesn't rank IT doesn't have a wiki page. There's no link for IT.

I think next IT f IT doesn't .

pedigree chart, I don't know, but that mandel seem to be into them again.

Feel like we should just reiterate if you really want to, if you really want to get the most out of this extremely engaging conversation, go to the art page on .

wikipedia. Common charts?

Yeah, I don't know. And go and look up the Smith hard because you .

can see down further, you can. And I am going to say, I think Peter gory pretty high, you know, A B, C term, this right of the question. We didn't do this right the question. But IT was like, hey.

IT was about pain thresholds. Oh, right.

Yes, save. yeah. We do that next month.

We talk about this occasionally, internally. Sometimes I, I would like to do a supplemental Q N A time to time, because we have so many good questions.

we don't have time to get to this month. There was a an .

embarrassment of riches, but there a concern about doing too many to. So if you have an opinion out there in the distance about how many, let us know.

a trim APP, trim APP down in the less common parts. I put that as an s here. That looks like that to me, looks like when disk, when dear, stand right there, which, which is what IT is yeah, I don't know, man, I need to say, okay, I think pie as tear, Smith as tear clearly flow chart a or area chart a line chart b bar chart d domi seas let's just chuck cartogram .

and tea .

chart and tea chart and timeline chart in the seas.

I'm good with that. And yeah.

I have to confess I .

don't have very strong feelings about most of these charts.

Yeah, I I look, I took statistics for business because IT qualified as my statistic requirement for my science degree because I didn't want to take real statistics.

That was very and hard. I see that. Yeah, I turned out .

to be a mistake. I would have made a lot of my further downstream classes, a lot as year, if I knew the science statistic stuff. I have know about gant charts in a buddle bullshit. But you know, here we are, we this is how we learn .

tackle today, what you can put off years you .

thirty years, thirty five years. exactly. Um I guess that i'll do for us this week.

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