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Bluesky Scraper - DTNS 4905

2024/11/27
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Scott Johnson
技术和媒体领域的主播和评论员,专注于分析最新的技术和媒体趋势。
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Tom Merritt
知名科技播客主播和制作人,长期从事在线内容创作。
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Tom Merritt 认为 Hugging Face 的机器学习管理员 Daniel Situmorang 发布的包含一百万条 Bluesky 公开帖子的数据集,虽然初衷是用于机器学习研究,但由于未经用户同意,违反了数据收集的透明度和同意原则,最终被删除。他认为,在没有新的法律法规的情况下,公开数据的抓取行为将持续存在,Bluesky 的做法是允许用户表达同意,这是一种折中的方案。 Scott Johnson 认为从公开网站抓取公开数据用于研究并不违法,Bluesky 对此无能为力,这引发了关于数据抓取的讨论。他认为抓取公开数据是互联网的固有部分,现在需要重新审视这种做法。他认为数据抓取用于研究是常见的,即使未被注意到。他认为 Bluesky 的回应是基于其平台的开放性,他们无法阻止数据抓取,但正在探索让用户表达同意的途径。他认为,如果想要一个开放的互联网,就必须允许公开数据被使用。 Scott Johnson 认为艺术家们对 OpenAI 使用他们的作品进行公关感到不满,这反映了 AI 与艺术家之间关系的复杂性。他认为艺术家们对 AI 工具的态度是复杂的,既认可其潜力,也担忧其负面影响。他认为艺术家们公开表达担忧是积极的,OpenAI 的回应过于官方化。他认为艺术家们感到不被尊重,因为 OpenAI 似乎只关注积极的反馈,而非实际的改进。他认为 AI 公司需要更好地与艺术家合作,倾听他们的反馈,避免将其仅仅视为公关工具。

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The discussion revolves around the ethical and legal implications of scraping public data from social media platforms like Bluesky for machine learning research.
  • A dataset of one million Bluesky posts was scraped for machine learning research.
  • The creator of the dataset removed it due to backlash, highlighting the controversy around data scraping.
  • Bluesky's response emphasizes the honor system and the difficulty of controlling public data usage.

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President of SCE Worldwide Studios, Shuhei Yoshida, steps down from his 38 years. Scott shares his thoughts on Yoshida’s legacy. Plus OpenAI shuts down access to its video generative AI tool, Sora, after artists given early access released a version of the tool publicly alongside a statement decrying “being lured into ‘art washing’ to tell the world that Sora is a useful tool for artists”. And a Hugging Face machine learning librarian a dataset composed of one million Bluesky posts.

Starring Tom Merritt, Sarah Lane, Scott Johnson, Roger Chang, Joe.

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