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Today, Brett Rounceville tells us why the Abu Dhabi Disney may be the best Disney yet, and Samsung's Slim Phone has a hot date. Oh yeah, it does. I'm Jason Howell. I'm Shannon Morse. Let's start with what you need to know with The Big Story.

After much speculation about a final, finally a release date, Samsung has announced a virtual event for next Monday. So you're going to have to wait too long to find out more. That's May 12th, where they're going to finally go deep on the new Galaxy S25S.

The event's going to start at 8 p.m. Eastern. So it's evening time here in the U.S. A little different. Samsung often has their events in the morning. So that's a little different. Samsung is offering a $50 credit for accessories or other products on Samsung.com if you place a reservation now. There's no obligation to purchase the device if you sign up for that. So if you're thinking about it, you might as well do that because, you know, it could bring you $50 of credit.

Samsung first teased this device during the S25 event that they held just this past January. Later at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona, Samsung had the device on display as well, allowing people, including myself, because I was at MWC, to get very close to the slim smartphone without touching it.

And until now, most of the details outside of just the look of the slim look of the device have been shared through leaked information only. So this event is going to obviously shed the actual information. But just to pull out a few pieces of information, then we can kind of talk about this device because I know you're excited about it, especially Shannon. 5.85 millimeters thin and.

If one thing I noticed at Mobile World Congress is I looked at that device and then I went over to another part of the Samsung booth and looked at the Galaxy Tab S9, which if you've ever seen that tablet is really, really thin. That one is 5.5 millimeters thin. So the phone's slightly thicker, but not by much than that tablet. That gives you a sense of kind of the slimness.

6.7 inch 1440p display, very high end internal Snapdragon 8 Elite, 12 gigs of RAM, 256, 512 gig storage, two rear cameras, one front facing. And then the kicker, a 3900 milliamp hour battery, which is definitely lower than what we're used to. And finally, and then I want to hear your thoughts. Rumors pointing to a release in China and Korea on May 23rd. U.S. and Europe seeing a delay by at least one week.

Who knows? Maybe longer. We'll find out soon. But I know you're excited. We're talking kind of as we're getting ready to do the recording here. And Shannon, you lit up at this story. So tell me why you're so excited about The Edge. Yeah.

Yes, I'm very excited about this device. Well, on the one hand, Samsung devices are one of my daily drivers. So I'm really interested to see like, especially how powerful this is going to be compared to a lot of the ultra and premium flagship devices that I'm currently using. And I'm also interested to see like how it dissipates heat and how it handles a lot of those prosumer user modes that I generally use.

It does look like a pretty interesting device all in all. I am curious to know how you feel about, given that it has a 6.7 inch screen,

1440p, that's great, but it's also super, super thin. Do you think that it's going to be a really durable device? It is pretty similar to the Tab S9 and even the Tab S10, which I've checked out both of those in hand. So in terms of the thinness, it's very comparable to those, but those are also tablets. So chances are you might be putting that into like some kind of sleeve or something like that when you're using it. So...

You've seen it in person. Like, do you think it's going to be a pretty durable device? Well, I mean, you know, I think that's part of the story that Samsung has to tell, because I think that's the question that I think a lot of people have. I mean, having seen it in person, like when you're talking about the tablet being very thin, like you don't put a tablet in your pocket and then sit down. So there's there's no question that that tablet is never going to become an accidental foldable device in your pocket.

Whereas something like this, I have to imagine that Samsung has gone through – gone to great lengths to make this durable. But it really remains to be seen. Like what is – what's different about the frame? What's different about the structure to keep that thinness intact?

While I was in Barcelona for Mobile World Congress, I also got to actually go hands-on because I couldn't with the Slim. They wouldn't let you touch it. They actually had people that would come in and force you to back away if you got too close to it. But at a different part of the event, I went to the Techno booth and they had the Spark Slim, which is a 5.75 millimeter thin. So

thin device, slightly thinner than what Samsung has here. And I got to go hands-on with that. And it was made out of, I think the one that I had was ceramic. And I mean, it was an amazing kind of, it felt really amazing in the hand to have something that thin and that light.

and yet in the smartphone form factor and everything. But even with that thing, I was like, all right, this feels durable. But the real test is when it gets into my pocket and I sit down in my car because I forgot that it's there, is it actually going to survive? And I would say it probably is, but that's part of the story that Samsung has to tell.

It's also going to be really interesting to see how this falls in line with their current market space. We have the flagship devices, the super nice expensive ones. We have the foldies and the flippies. So where is this one going to fall in line? Obviously, it's not going to be that high end given it only has two cameras on the back, for example. Where is it going to fall?

in terms of the regular S25 and the Plus. And then we have the lower, the A-series models, which are more your mid-grade tier. So that's going to be interesting to test these alongside with some of those models and see which ones people find to be the most relevant to their use cases.

Like, where does Samsung price this, right? Like, if you've got the three different pricings of their standard phones, somewhere up around $1,000. No, I guess it's more like $12 or $13 for the Ultra. Yeah, like, if I had to look at this, I'd probably say it's probably going to be somewhere in the $1,000 range because they're going to bank on, yes, this is a premium device.

But you also make some tradeoffs for the fact that it's this new thing that apparently is a trend that's building right now, which is super slim smartphones. And I don't see them going the low high end on this. I see them kind of doing what they did with foldables to be like, yeah, well, you are sacrificing a little bit to get this new trend and you're going to pay a little bit more for it because it's different. It's new and all that.

I'm curious to know from you, is the slim phone thing like why does it exist? Why do people want super slim phones? And are you willing to trade off your battery? Because thirty nine hundred milliamp hour battery is not a very large battery. That's not a large battery at all. I mean, we have some batteries that are hitting like five thousand milliamps per hour nowadays. So that's.

pretty low compared to those ones. But if it's efficient, it might last just as long, especially if it's not as power hungry as some of those premium devices are. So yeah, you know, slim devices for me are not necessarily something that I look for in a device. I'm okay with it being a little bit more of a candy bar or a brick device.

As opposed to something that's crazy thin, partially because I'm clumsy. Me too. I drop devices all the time. So the more durability I can get out of a device, the better. Now, I'm sure that we could talk about these all day, Jason. I'm sure we could. We could. Yeah.

I will just end on this. The TechnoSpark Slim that I mentioned earlier, 5.75 millimeters thin, so thinner than the device we're talking about here, had a 5,200 milliamp hour battery in it. So it is possible. Wow. But I think battery technologies are different, right? They wouldn't tell me at that booth whether that was silicon carbon battery tech, which allows you to fit more in the same space.

they were saying that it wasn't. But I don't know how you have a device that thin and still have a battery that large. If Samsung can't do that, then it makes me really question it. So anyways, a lot of unanswered questions. And I, like you, am very curious to find out more about this device.

Well, I'm sure we're going to hear more about it, especially once we get review units in hand. So make sure to tag along with us while we discover these new slimmer devices. But DTNS is actually made possible by you, our listeners. So special thank you to Matt Zaglin, Jeff Wilkes, and Pele Glendel. And also we have new patrons, including Bob, George, Anatoly, Aaron, Jason, and...

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All right, there's more that we need to know today, so let's get right into the briefs. Nintendo is forecasting 15 million Switch 2 console sales by the year ending March 2026, falling short of analyst expectations and reflecting a cautious and uncertain outlook in light of U.S. tariffs.

Pre-orders have been strong, particularly in Japan and the U.S., but Nintendo is being conservative in its projections over the possibility of price increases or limited supply. Still, this projection, if it holds true, would make the Switch 2 one of the fastest selling consoles in history.

Yeah, no doubt. This is going to be a popular console. It just really remains to be seen whether the market conditions are friendly to it or, you know, a detriment to it. And it's still a ways to go before we find out, you know, what that answer is. Yeah.

And this is not the only thing that has uncertainty or a company that has uncertainty with our products. Microsoft has raised the base prices of its Surface lineup by around 20%. The 13.8-inch Surface laptop and 13-inch Surface Pro now start at $1,200 up from $1,000. Accessories like power supplies also impacted there. The 15-inch Surface laptop remains in place at

$1,300. Microsoft's new devices that we actually, Tom and I talked about earlier this week on Tuesday, they're keeping their prices in place, of course, because they just announced them. But all of this makes the pricing structure oddities that we discussed on that show suddenly make at least a little more sense, right? This was the plan all along. Announce the new devices. Yes, they match the prices for a couple of days. And then later we boost the prices on the older, more powerful devices. And now it all makes sense. But

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Open AI announced that Fiji Sumo, currently CEO of Instacart, is joining the company as the new CEO of applications and reporting directly to Sam Altman. In overseeing this new division, Sumo will work to bring its business and operational teams together, also scaling the company's business functions as they enter the next phase of growth. Sumo will continue

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So Instacart, that's going to be a really interesting interview from Tom and Andrew. I can't wait to listen to that. Now, Anthropic launched a web search API for its Claude AI models. I love that name. Hi, I'm Claude AI. He's wearing a bow tie, isn't he? He's like wearing a bow tie. Yeah.

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I mean, search and AI is just a big, trendy thing that's happening right now. They're all going in that direction. It's kind of surprising that we haven't heard this from Anthropic yet. But they are the AI company that likes to see itself as the safe AI, the safety AI company, the company that cares about privacy and safety and all that kind of stuff. So sometimes they take a little longer with things like that. We will indeed.

Indeed, we will. The U.S. presidential administration plans to rescind a Biden era rule that restricted exports of advanced AI chips. You may have heard of it as the AI diffusion rule that divided countries into three tiers with varying chip access. The reversal is set to take place prior to the original May 15th implementation date, which is like next week.

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So that's what we're going to see. Yeah, my main concern when it comes to technology internationally is security and privacy concerns, of course. So we'll just have to see how this goes. Yep. Google has released a dedicated Gemini app for iPad, now available globally on the App Store. The native app offers a full screen optimized experience and supports split view multitasking between apps.

Gemini Live, deep research, audio overviews, and the ability to generate images and video are all on board. And the app includes a home screen widget. All right. iPad users, get your Gemini, I suppose. That's pretty cool. Yeah.

Yeah, on Android, we just, we don't have the, this was made for the tablet, this was made for the phone thing. So, you know, as a not iOS user, I see this and I'm like, oh, that must be nice to get like the very, very highly tailored version of something like this. Yeah.

Is that what it's like to be an Apple user? Is that what it's like? I don't know. Yeah. I'm so inexperienced as an Apple user. I'm just kidding. I have an iPhone. I get it. Well, this is really interesting right here, if you got a lot of money. Lenovo announced the new Legion 9i, a high-end 18-inch gaming laptop.

with a unique carbon fiber lid and optional 2D and 3D glasses-free display that uses eye-tracking technology and a lenticular lens array. Top-tier specs, of course, include an Intel Core Ultra 9 275HX CPU, NVIDIA RTX 5090 GPU, up to 192 gigs of RAM, and 8 terabytes of storage,

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You know, I've seen their 3D display technology in person at events like CES, and it actually looks really good. So I'm pretty excited to see how this is going to be implemented, especially later this year. I'll hopefully get a review unit in because this would be awesome to test. Yeah.

Now, the problem with, sorry, the problem with reviewing something like this is how do you, how do you convey this stuff? Because it really requires you being in front of it. It's really hard to review technology like this without, you know, because you just kind of have to describe it more than you can show it. Yeah, that's very true. I just kind of want to test it myself. I want to play video games 3D. I would too. Now, those are the essentials for today. Let's dive a little bit deeper.

And we're going to talk a little bit about Disney in today's interview. This week, Disney announced plans to build a theme park in Abu Dhabi that would be its most tech-centric yet. And Tom Merritt talked to former Disney theme park designer Brett Rounceville about what that actually might mean. Brett, thank you for taking the time from a very busy day to chat about Disney stuff.

Yeah, I am so excited. This is the biggest news in a minute from Disney, in my opinion. Yeah, so we're getting at some point, we don't have a date, a new theme park on Yas Island in Abu Dhabi. Abu Dhabi is the capital of the United Arab Emirates. Yas Island is one of the islands. I think Abu Dhabi itself is kind of technically an island there.

And the most interesting thing about this is the deal structure. There are six parks that Disney has, but they won't own this one. Right. And in fact, it's not the only one they don't own. I mean, we don't have all the details, but the deal structure is really similar to the deal structure with the Oriental Land Company, who is technically who owns Tokyo DisneySea and Tokyo Disneyland. And what is fascinating about those deals is though...

is that although the Oriental Land Company owns the parks, they still license from Disney all of the design. So the Imagineers are the ones who are working on these projects. But in a lot of circumstances, without the same budgetary restrictions they get in the US parks. So my favorite thing to point out is if you go Google...

the Hollywood Tower Hotel or the Tower of Terror at Disney World and you Google the Tower of Terror in Tokyo DisneySea,

One of them is Art Deco themed. So it is largely just a big beige rectangle. And the other one is a gothic architectural masterpiece. It's the craziest discrepancy ever. And you see that across the board at Tokyo Disney, just because the Oriental Land Company has a little bit more money to throw around. And I think Miral is going to be in a really similar position. Yeah. So talk a little bit about...

I don't know much about Miral. I'm not expecting you to be an expert on Miral. But in this announcement, Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney, said this would be the most tech-centric park yet. And a lot of what Abu Dhabi does to position itself as a place of innovation and cutting-edge technology, they have an F1 circuit on the same island that Disney is going to build their theme park. So they're very much trying to be like, we are on the forefront of everything here.

What could they mean by that? Like from, from your experience, what, what could set the Abu Dhabi Disney apart from the others?

Yeah, I would not be shocked if that weren't morale messaging that Disney is happy to co-opt. Because realistically, every Disney park that is built is the most technologically advanced and immersive that they've ever built. Okay, yeah. Like at no point were people not walking in being mesmerized and amazed by singing parrots in 1968.

And now I think really, though, what it means is Imagineering right now is leaning really heavily into things like robotics. So there will certainly be things to interact with that are walking around in the park. They've been making a lot of hay over their new hollow tile product, which they haven't found a use for yet, but will nonetheless likely find its way into an immersive experience of some kind, which is basically like a omnidirectional treadmill, sort of, but also like...

It can control itself. You don't an omnidirectional treadmill where you don't have to be doing the walking for it to be doing the moving. Does that make sense? Yeah. Yeah. So it's ready player one, but you're not in control. It is very similar. Yeah. Yeah. Or you can be in control. It has. Yeah. Yeah. It's optional. Okay. Got it. Right. But certainly things like that robotics, I'm sure they'll lean heavily into. I feel like they've been moving on a lot of their rides towards control.

Trackless technology. The two biggest California based examples are, uh, Mickey's runaway rail and, the rise of the resistance. Both of those are trackless technologies and both of them use, uh, screens heavily. And in the case of rise of the resistance, it's really like three to five rides kind of all strung together. They're all very immersive. I'm sure you're going to be seeing a lot more of that. Uh,

But Disney steps up its game with every park. And now they have someone with deep pockets willing to blow apart budgetary constraints. So I'm excited to see what happens. Yeah, it seems like the advantage this will have is it's not so much that there's anything particularly different about morale. There might be, but that they're starting fresh. They don't have to take away anything to give you the newest of everything that Disney has in mind.

Exactly. And that hasn't been true for a long time for Disney. And the last time that it was done in a really big way was also in Japan at Tokyo DisneySea. And that, to my mind...

not exaggerating the best Disney park in the world. Yeah. And do you think that that could be true of the Abu Dhabi one for similar reasons then? You think they'll take away the cup from Tokyo? They might. I would love to see it. I'd be there on opening day if they do. Well, Brett, thanks man for, for taking time to help us understand this a little more. I definitely have a better feel for the story. Thanks to you. Oh,

Oh, you bet. Thanks for the call, Tom. And if you want more of what Brett does, you can go check out yesmoreandco.com to get some cool stuff texted to you to buy every week. Now,

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Bruce says, I never carried a data-only USB cable. This is in reference to juice jacking and security and privacy implications in terms of plugging your devices into something that you may not know very much about. But Bruce goes on. He says, I still carry a USB condom, a small USB-A to USB-A plug that makes any data cable only.

I worked in cybersecurity. Now the batteries are good enough. I don't need chargers during the day, even while traveling, unless I take a lot of photos. Yeah, I don't have one of these. So it was like a week, a little more than a week ago that I did this show with you. And we talked a little bit about a USB condom. And like, I don't have one of those. I do have a cable that has a switch in line that I can switch from data only to a data pass only.

or sorry for charge only, uh, to data pass through. Um, and so when I go traveling, I take that, but I don't actually have one of these fancy USB condom thingies. Maybe I need to get one. I have a few, um, they're, they are pretty useful, especially for security implications. You know, if you're worried about plugging your devices in, uh, one thing I would also recommend if you have a wireless Qi charging, uh,

device with that protocol on the back of it, you can easily just set your device onto a wireless charger. So far, I haven't seen any security issues with wireless charging on Qi chargers, even ones that are publicly available. And you could also just bring your own charger too, like your own battery device. But...

If we have one of those like 5000 milliampere hour devices on hand, you might not need to charge it, just like Bruce says. That's true. That is very true. They come in very handy. What are you thinking about? If you have insight into a story or thoughts, just share it with us. Feedback at Daily Tech News.

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