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Today, Brian Bushwood tells us about his recent studio redesign and more from your emails. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Jen Cutter. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story. You thought it was going to be Apple, didn't you? No, a couple of notable scientific journal articles from Microsoft today. Microsoft published research in the journal Nature about its Majorana One quantum computer chip. It

It's made of a material called a topo conductor, which takes advantage of the properties of a state of matter that is topological rather than the classic solid liquid or gas. It was first postulated back in the 1930s, but it is essentially a new state of matter to most of us.

That type of material using indium arsenide and aluminum can handle a particle called the Majorana, hence the name Majorana 1 quantum computer, which is used instead of electrons. So you're using Majorana particles instead of electrons. Microsoft says this combination could potentially fit a million qubits on a single chip.

The chip would not have to be that much bigger than a classical desktop CPU. So this is a nice compact version. If you're like, what's a qubit? A qubit is basically a one or a zero, like in a classical computer. But in quantum computing, it can be both at the same time. And that lets you do some cool, fast processing for certain types of problems that you can't do with a classical computer that is only able to do a one and a zero exclusively.

Be aware, though, that so far Microsoft has been able to fit eight qubits on its topo conductor chip. It is very, very optimistic about increasing that number, and it's going to have to increase it quite a bit to reach its goal.

Google announced its own quantum computer chip called Willow in December. So there's a little competition going on here. Microsoft will be one of two companies to build a fault-tolerant prototype quantum computer for the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Project Agency's underexplored systems for utility-scale quantum computing. Yeah, DARPA, the folks who brought you the internet. Microsoft believes it can scale the topo conductor chip up within years, not decades. So...

Looking good for that million qubit chip soon. And along with this, Microsoft also published an article in the journal Nature. So it's second article in Nature that we're talking about today about its Muse AI model for game developers. This is a generative model that can create a game environment based on images you give it, video that you give it and prompt it, controller actions. It can just follow along with what people are doing while they play a game.

Microsoft Research worked with Xbox Studio Ninja Theory to train the model on human gameplay from Bleeding Edge, which

Right now, the model is limited to 300 by 180 pixels, so it's not high-res yet. I think it's like 10 frames per second. But the idea is to use this as a tool for development, including things like prototyping, rather than as a way to create a whole game. Microsoft Gaming CEO Phil Spencer suggested it could be used for game preservation, so you could more quickly port a game to a new platform. And Ninja Theory's Dom Matthews emphasized...

It won't replace people. We don't intend to use this technology for the creation of content. I think the interesting aspect for us that is exciting is how can we use technology like this to make the process of making games quicker and easier for our talented team so that they can really focus on the thing that

I think is really special about games, which is that human creativity. Now, Jen, that's what people want to hear is, you know, we're not going to replace the humans. We're just going to use this as a tool. You couldn't replace the humans with this yet, to be fair. What do you think of this? Well, the thing that left out of me first was the whole game preservation thing. Because like back in 2017, Nintendo got caught saying,

downloading ROMs from the internet and wrapping them in an emulator and selling them back to you. And since a lot of these models tend to go for the path of least resistance, it would be a little funny if that kind of happens again. But I'm going to assume that Microsoft kind of knows what they're doing at this point and will run things internally and not pull from the whole internet. You train this stuff on your own stuff.

I think that's fine. Yeah. And that's what they say they did. They trained it on essentially the equivalent of seven years of humans playing Bleeding Edge. I would actually kind of love to see 300 by 180. Like, yeah, just publish it. Let's go. Let's go.

Yeah, they've got some demo footage up there if people want to see what it looks like yet. But yeah, this is a tool. It's a fun way to try something out. And at 300x180, there are some games you could actually faithfully preserve. And that's what Spencer was suggesting is you take a game that you can play a ROM or maybe play an older version on a platform, point a video camera at it, and then you could have this be able to port it over

and say, yeah, okay, I can create that same kind of game over here. I wonder how accurate it would be, right? That's my concern is like, if you did game preservation with this, are you really preserving the game faithfully or are you preserving something that is similar to that game? And it feels like the latter right now. Well, if you're having human creativity, maybe they can fix it, but.

I think where it might go, to speculate slightly, is with AAA Studios kind of suffering right now, this kind of rapid prototyping will let smaller teams advance through stages faster.

It also takes the TD amount of game development. I know everyone worries, and rightly so, that penny-pinching companies will see this as a way to eliminate jobs. And I'm not saying it won't be used for that sometimes, but the smarter companies will look at this and say, we've got a really good team. We like our team. We wish they didn't have to waste time on

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The iPhone 16e runs on the same A18 chip as the iPhone 16, meaning it can run all the same apps as well as Apple Intelligence. It also has no home button, relies on Face ID, replaces the mute switch with the action button, and uses USB-C instead of lightning for charging.

The 16E is Apple's first phone to use its own in-house C1 modem for 5G connectivity. Apple says it should be more power efficient. If the C1 is successful, Apple might not need to rely on Qualcomm for future modems in future phones. The iPhone 16E will be available for pre-order on Friday for $599, shipping on February 28th.

That makes it $170 more expensive than the iPhone SE and is now the cheapest iPhone available. Yeah, it's the cheapest, but the cheapest got more expensive, right? The C1 modem thing is the most interesting about this to me because it is...

fascinating choice for Apple to take its Qualcomm replacement and put it in the bargain phone. I think that means they're pretty confident that it's going to work well because you're not putting it in the early adopters space, right? You're putting it in front of the people who are not used to things going wrong. The mid-range market is like, I just want it to work. That's Apple's whole pitch.

So they must think it's going to work well. And they're talking about like a 27 day battery life or 27 day, 27 hour battery life. Yeah. Well, as I am the person for as long time listeners know who keeps punting down the fact that I need a new phone and haven't bought it yet. I'm going to look at this closely, see if this does meet my needs because mostly I use my phone as a, you know, internet machine and camera. Yeah. And it's,

Just on the edge of affordability, right? Yes. The Canadian prices are obviously always a little bumped. But the other big thing for me is like, okay, will this phone be supported long enough to justify not spending the extra money? Yeah. Apple has a pretty good track record on supporting phones like that. So, you know, it's probably going to be at least as good or better than they've done in the past. Yeah.

The reviews are out for the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 Ti. This is the 50 series GPU from NVIDIA that costs $749 instead of the $1,000 you'd spend for a 5080. And let's not even talk about the 5090. However, the 5070 is also short in supply. So the actual prices you're going to pay are more than that for both of these cards, at least for the time being. You might want to wait a few weeks.

you'll pay less for the 5070s and by all accounts, they're worth it. The Verge says it's basically equivalent to the previous generation's flagship 4080 but uses less power. So that's good. And Gadget praised its 4K capability. Several outlets note the 16 gigabytes of video

which makes it a little more future-proof than the 4080. Overall, the reviews seem to think it has decent performance for the price, even if the price is not truly a bargain, with the main negative thing being that it's hard to get one. In a broadly related story, Ars Technica notes that NVIDIA has deprecated support for PhysX on 50-series cards back in January. PhysX, P-H-Y-S, like physics.com.

That means some older games like Assassin's Creed 4 Black Flag will show a performance hit if you get one of the newer cards. Kevin Purdy has an excellent write-up on the history of PhysX and how it affects gamers right now. You can find that over at Ars Technica.

Bloomberg sources say Niantic is close to selling its video game business to Saudi Arabia's Scopely. Yes, Niantic, the makers of Pokemon Go and Ingress. And it looks like Pokemon Go is apparently part of the potential sale. Niantic spun out of Google in 2015 and makes tools that capture 3D scans of real world locations. It announced in November it is making a large geospatial model that uses machine learning to understand the real world.

Scopely is owned by Savvy Games, which partners with Niantic on game distribution in Saudi Arabia. It seems like Niantic would like to focus on its main business and hand its wildly successful game off title to something else. Yeah.

It's been the only wildly successful game title. Apologies to you, Ingress players, and I know you're listening. But, you know, Ingress is not nearly at the level of name recognition as Pokemon Go. Niantic tried to do this with some other games and didn't really get a hit. So I think what they're saying is our core competency is something else. Let's let somebody whose core competency is gaming take this over. I don't know much about Scopely, and I'm sure a lot of people are going to be nervous about that.

Also, the Pokemon Company and the Pokemon Company International, Niantic may maybe want to not have to deal with those levels of bureaucracy anymore. It will free up some dev time. Yeah, absolutely. I could not find if Ingress would be part of this deal or not. Again, we're talking on Bloomberg sources, so it may be up for grabs whether it is or not. I think it would be interesting if they kept Ingress.

because that is kind of more close to their core geospatial mapping than Pokemon Go, which just used the maps of Ingress to kind of bootstrap it for a launch. Do you remember the Humane AI pin? It was like a big TED talk. Everybody was raving about it. It was going to revolutionize interfaces. You remember that, Jen? I sure do, but mostly for the catastrophic early reviews. Yes. Apparently those reviews were accurate too because they didn't sell a lot of these

And now the company has given its customers 10 day notice that it will stop functioning normally as of 12 Pacific time, February 28th. You're going to lose access to almost all of its functions because they all worked in the cloud. You will still be able to check battery life, though.

According to the documentation. So that's nice. Customers should download any data they want to keep as they are going to delete all remaining customer data. If you bought a Humane AI pin in the last 90 days, you can get a full refund. HP is buying Humane and will take on its intellectual property and engineers, but they're not going to keep building the hardware. Hence the big shutdown. If you hear HP talk about something called HP IQ in the future, that's the old Humane stuff.

Well, there is one little bit of good news in that 10-day thing is that apparently sales were pretty low. So it might just be influencers who have. In the tens of thousands, perhaps actually just 10,000 that were sold. Eufy announced the Familok S3 Max, which has a 2K camera and a 180 degree field of view. So it can display what's happening outside your door on a screen on the other side of a door as well in an app.

It can use the camera to read your palm and unlock the door, storing up to 50 palm prints. The Familok S3 Max arrives in stores on March 17th for $400, and you can pre-order on the Eufy website.

Yeah, I like this peephole thing. As they pointed out in the CNET article on this, this was a big deal at CES. A lot of people are announcing this. Looks like Eufy is going to beat everybody to the punch in releasing it. But besides the like, oh, I've got an actual screen inside my door that I can see what's happening outside instead of opening my phone. That's cool. Palm prints. Palm prints for unlocking your door. I kind of love that. Yeah, that's the future. We're here. Yeah. Yeah.

Uh, and up to 50. So like everybody, you can, you can have the whole family in there, uh, unless your family is larger than 50, in which case you probably think some other, you probably have more problems than your UV luck. Uh, Google threat intelligence released a report Wednesday that Russian linked groups are exploiting signals feature that lets you join a group chat by QR code. Uh,

Everybody puts this in their article, so I'm going to ad lib it here. This doesn't mean anything about signals end-to-end encryption. This is a phishing scam and a workaround. Basically, the attackers target Ukrainian troops, try to get them to scan a QR code to join a chat, and embed JavaScript...

in the QR code that automatically links the target's phone to a new device. So it's the JavaScript in the QR code that's the problem. It's basically an injection attack. This lets the attacker receive all messages sent to the account. Google told Signal about the exploit two months ago, and the company released an update last week

That doesn't stop the JavaScript. Apparently, that's just not something you can really do. But we'll alert a user not only when they link a new device. So if they're like, wait, I didn't link a new device and you can go get rid of it, but also confirm if they still want to share messages to it later. So if you don't respond, it'll keep asking you, are you sure? Are you sure you want this other device? And that way you can catch it and turn it off.

I am sure I am not the only one who is surprised that that wasn't already a feature. I think I just assumed that that was already in the app. Yeah, I think they had a version of it before, but they're beefing it up.

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France's Mistral was a bit of the local star at the AI Action Summit in Paris last week. President Macron even gave him a name check and told everybody to install it. And it's seen a boost. Two weeks after its release, Mistral's Le Chat has reached – or would that be cat if I say it that way? It's L-E-C-H-A-T – has reached one million downloads and topped the charts on iOS in France.

By comparison, ChatGPT reached 500,000 downloads in six days, a little bit ahead of this pace, but close. It launched, of course, back in November 2023, and it has now been downloaded 350 million times. So Mistral has a little ways to go with its chatbot.

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The Eero 7 is $170 or cheaper in packs of two or three. And the 7 Pro starts at $300. They are available for pre-order, shipping on February 26th. All right, folks, those are the essentials for today. Let's dive a little deeper into an ongoing story and do a little follow-up. Brian Brucewood just rebuilt his studio from the ground up, and Tom talked to him about some of his favorite new tech that he's using.

So, Brian, I know we could talk for probably an hour about all of the things that you're doing, but you have redone the entire studio. What's your favorite piece of technology that you have put into place so far?

Well, first of all, the total game changer are the cameras on robotic gimbals now. I'm using OBS bots, which don't tell anyone, but I'm pretty sure these are sex cams, which is great because it means they're not going to go away anytime soon. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Slow down, slow down. OBS bots? Yes.

Yes, they're built to run on OBS. You can get four of them. The open source switching system. Right, right, right. And so they come from the port industry properly. Well, that's why I assume they're very well supported. And they're quite good. Each one needs to be on its own USB so you don't run into bandwidth issues. Okay.

but once you do, I mean, you get 4k high quality video and with good lighting, I think that most people wouldn't realize that right now what the video that they're seeing is all webcams and you're

You're able to set up like prepositions for a bunch of stuff to run all over the place. For example, I got them pointed at random corners and with one push of a button, there's a script that runs everything together and you get way too many Bryans. So it's able to add a dynamism to the set that wouldn't have been possible. So these are on USB-C, I'm guessing. Right.

Or are they USB-A? They're USB-C, but I'm using adapters to step down to USB-A. Okay. All right. And so, again, as long as each one is on its own bus, you're totally covered. Then they're fine. The other thing is these actually do move, right? There's a lot of cameras out there doing virtual moves and using some tricks to make it look like they're moving. But these actually are motorized?

Yeah. And, uh, and the gimbals actually have, uh, built again. This is why I suspect they're secretly powered. Powered by porn is something I want to see on the box. Hey, if it was good for Blu-ray, it's good for VHS. This is, that's how you pick a winner. Uh, tell me if this tracks, Tom, uh, face tracking, also voice control and gesture control. You can hold up a hand. It'll identify you as the target. And then with gesture,

Gestures like moving your hands in and out, you can essentially pinch and zoom the view onto you, all without walking over to the computer. You know, for all the spontaneous walking around and lecturing that we do. Yes. If you watch Great Night or Chord Killers, you'll see Brian in action, totally sitting down in one place. But the nice thing is you didn't have to...

Surround yourself with all of the equipment, right? You could, you got more flexibility and where to put your anchor station because you didn't have to have everything in arm's reach. Yeah. And as a matter of fact, now I'm seated at a round table, which is something I never could have done before. And by the way, G James B in the chat points out correctly that the killer app here is churches. Right.

And it actually is absolutely idea ideal. You, uh, uh, the out of the box, the OBS bot software has, uh, four cameras built in and you can set everything from color temperatures to, you know, uh, digital zooms, uh, various positions. You can have it framed from the upper half of the body. You can have it follow hands. There's a whiteboard mode, desktop mode. And if you couple it with even a lower end cheap, uh, stream deck, uh,

It plays really nice with all that stuff to where you could just click on presets or if you need to make any tweaks, all of the motion controls I've been doing have been happening just on, you know, with my hand out of frame here. It looks great. And the stream. So each of these units is,

I think they retail for $299, and I got them $249 on Black Friday. And I think for a Stream Deck Plus, it's $150. So even for just two cameras, less than $500 or around $500, $600 for two cameras and an easy switching solution and free software, that alone will get you –

90% of the way ahead of all of the competition. I mean, it really does make a difference. Now, 250 is not bad for a camera, especially when people like myself are doing way more expensive cameras on DSLR, which was the old way of doing it.

OBS is free. If anybody doesn't know, it's an open source video switching software that anybody could download and use. It may or may not be the most user friendly software out there, but it's pretty user friendly. And so it's for the price well worth it.

Tell people who don't know what Stream Deck is, how that's fitting into your system there. Stream Deck is, and keep in mind, it's something that I can't believe that this robust ecosystem took this long to happen, or maybe it's been quietly building right under my nose. But think of any time you wish that there was, air quotes, just a button for it, or the idea that you could nest a whole bunch of commands. Yeah.

Here, let's do this. Think of if this, then that only completely on your computer without needing to go to the internet and for just about everything that you might need to do it. And it will play with everything from your smart home to depending on your lighting setup to anything nested. And you can customize all of your, uh, uh,

the buttons, you can make them look, they got nested folders within pages. It's, uh, it's really, it's really a rabbit hole that I'm a little bit scared to, to, to walk down. I thoroughly underuse my stream deck. Uh, the stream deck that, that I use, uh, has like,

five of the, you know, 18 buttons programmed right now. But you can do things like, oh, I'm using a piece of software like OBS to stream and I just want to have a mute button. You can do that. You can have it do more complicated things. You can have it launch software. What are the favorite things that you have it doing so far?

Well, so far, the silliest one is I only just now started playing with the advanced controls where it's going to random positions like I was showing off when we were doing earlier. If I hit this here, let me see if I can throw the quad shot on. I have them all pointed at random spots and then they all converge on yours truly up.

But that took maybe 10 minutes for me to put together, and I did it just to get a giggle on one shot. To be honest, I would be interested for people to suggest to me crazy things that I should try. But all of this has gotten so intuitive. It really allows the – I'll use the term generously – talent to focus on doing the thing that they're talented at.

And then let me throw one more thing out there. My setup is with these $250 cameras, but I built everything assuming that something better would be just around the corner. And sure enough, in the middle of setting all this up, you guys were at CES and OBSBot announced CES.

a new version at just over a thousand dollars with like eight X optical, not digital zoom and, uh, the same gimbal controls, superior, uh, AI and HDMI. And, uh, Oh, what's the network one in NDI? Yeah. NDI outputs. Uh, it's, it's really, uh, uh,

Now what I'm working on is a setup that I can actually take to the bars to do scam school style shoots. The kind of thing that it used to take the entire team at revision three to put together. I'm going to walk up with a briefcase, set it down, put a bunch of sticks with cameras on it. Say you follow that face. You follow that face. You keep the wide, you watch these hands and capture all of that raw. And it'll be an easy edit later. It is fantastic.

I feel like I'm giving up all the good stuff right here, Tom. I don't want to tell anyone because we're in the brief window where I'm going to look like I have a whole team and it's just me. Yeah, yeah. No, it's crazy. Brian, thanks for walking us through all that. If folks want to see the results of your efforts and find out more about what you do, where should they go? Yeah, head on over to youtube.com slash scam school and take a look

chronologically at the last four or five episodes. I've been polishing up a bunch of old Modern Rogue episodes, and now that the studio's done, I'm putting in a little 30 to 45 second slice, a bit of a Vincent Price introduction to each of the episodes, and

And all of that is within about 40 minutes turnaround. So the one I did today, you'll be able to see just how fast and narrow I've been able to get the production pipeline. And I want to see if I can get it even shorter still. Fantastic. Brian, thanks so much, man. What would you like to hear about on the show? One way to let us know is our subreddit. You can submit stories and vote on them at reddit.com slash r slash Daily Tech News Show.

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We end every episode of DTNS with some shared wisdom. Today, Kirill and Anon Jr. share their reactions to our llama sounds in Tuesday's show. Yeah, we had an Easter egg at the end, and we had a little sound effect in the story about LlamaCon. Kirill did not like the first or the latter there. Kirill said that sound effect during the briefing when talking about LlamaCon was very disturbing. Yeah.

I'm listening with earbuds and it made me jump and look around. I didn't like it. I sent him an email apologizing. Sorry, didn't mean to scare you, Carol. And Anon Jr. said, I deeply appreciate the Winamp reference, even if it makes me feel old. Upside down face emoji.

Who doesn't love a Winamp reference? Bringing back the classics. Yeah. That was all producer Amos's idea, by the way. He came up with that and I was like, yes, genius. I will play along with that. So thank you, Anon Jr. I'm glad you liked it too. Actually, we had one person in the Discord noticed it, like within moments of publishing. He must have listened to

The moment it published and like, you know, 28 minutes later was able to respond to it. So thanks to everybody who enjoyed that. Thanks to Brian Brushwood. Thanks to Kirill. Thanks to Anand Jr. for contributing to today's show. And thank you for being along for Daily Tech News Show. Show is made possible by our patrons at patreon.com slash DTNS. DTNS has a live version called DTNS Live. You can find out details on where to watch that live or get it on demand at dailytechnewsshow.com. Talk to you tomorrow.

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