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And I'm Rob Dunwood. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story. Juice jacking is a term used for hiding malicious code in what looks like a USB power outlet. You know, the kind in the hotel or at the airport, that kind of thing. They rarely, if ever, were carried out as attacks in the wild.

- You hear a lot of worry about them, but there's little evidence that anybody really tried this. However, since 2012, Android and iOS both have implemented mitigations against attempts to juice jack your device if you plug into a public USB charger. If any device plugged into your phone wants to access your data or try to run code, you need to confirm that you authorized that. If you plug into a power jack and get that pop-up,

Deny it. Right?

Well, Ars Technica's Dan Gooden reports that researchers at Graz University in Austria discovered how to get around this to access your user data. I don't think they were able to run code, but they could exfiltrate files. There are multiple methods they used. So I highly encourage you to go read Dan's article on Ars Technica if you want to know them all. But essentially, they work by emulating an input device so that as soon as the confirmation dialogue is triggered, the input device

taps yes before you see the dialog box at all. It can then do things like activate Bluetooth pairing without your knowledge and start downloading files. Essentially, there's two kinds of devices that can attach to your phone.

One is a host and one is a peripheral, and this attack emulates both of them. Android 15 and iOS 18.4 both have implemented mitigations to stop these new attacks, but some older Android models don't support the mitigations. So, you know, you want to make sure you update your operating system. And if you have an older device, you should remember there's almost no evidence of these kinds of attacks happening in the wild, but...

You might want to think twice about public USB ports for a while if you have those devices. If you have one of those devices, you probably got other security problems to think about, too. Rob, do you take advantage of the little USB port when you charge stuff on the go? I do, but I learned a long time ago that you can buy...

a USB cable that is power only. Yeah. So I used to be because I, you know, I worked in security in, you know, at some point in my career and I was always concerned about, uh,

I just want to make sure I don't get something on my phone. Definitely don't want to get something on my computer. So I would only use a brick that I could physically plug into an outlet. But then the cables came out where you could actually get cables that only deliver power. And I just tend to keep one in my laptop bag. And I kind of go to that.

One other thing that I do, and it's just as this is probably just over time, I just condition myself to do it this way. I generally won't plug my phone or my laptop into just a raw USB port. I'll plug a power brick into one. So I'll charge a battery up, but I'm never plugging that directly into my device. Now, I'm a little bit more anal. As I said, I did I did work in high security for for a time in my career. So I needed to take these extra precautions.

But you hear urban legends. I don't know if any of them are actually true, having ever been done to someone. Yeah, no, I'm kind of the same way. Like, I'm a rational person. I know that the majority of those USB jacks have not been tampered with. Certainly the one in the seat back on the airplane would be really hard for someone to tamper with without getting caught.

And I still always plug in a power brick. I have one of those USB data only cables, but I found mine doesn't always work for whatever reason. So I probably just need to get a new one. But I kind of got out of the habit of even using that. I just go with a power brick.

unless I'm doing what you said with the battery. I will definitely charge up a battery because there's no data on it, so I'm not worried about malicious code or anything like that. I'm sure, in fact, somebody email us if there's some vulnerability with the battery where someone can mess with it. Again, it's probably not something to really be concerned about, but...

I'm curious about how these things work because this was ingenious. I didn't realize, well, I did realize, but I hadn't thought about the fact that there are two types of things you plug into your phone, right? There's one like your computer, which is a host. It's hosting the phone and it

It can put code onto your phone. And then there's the peripherals like speakers and things like that that just want to read data out. They don't want to put anything on it. So kind of manipulating a charger to be both of those as a way to get around things was pretty ingenious, evil genius, but pretty ingenious. And thankfully, it's researchers doing it, right? And figuring this out before it got malicious and could be used.

So who knows if you'll be able to get these kind of cables forever. But I've had one. I don't have a USB C to C, so that could prevent me from potentially using it. Maybe when an airport gets a actual USB C port as compared to the standard A that they always have.

So I'll look for a new cable at some point, but I'm just so used to just using that cable or just plugging in like you do. Just plug the brick in. Here's the other thing. If you plug your brick in, it's going to charge so much faster anyway. Exactly. You know, if it's right there next to it on the airplane, you have the ports literally right next to each other. It just makes sense to plug into the power so you can charge up more quickly. Yeah.

No, the only times I've, I'm not going to say I've been perfect on this score. The only times I've ever been like, all right, fine, I'm going to take the risk and just plug it in was when my power brick wouldn't fit into the typical power outlet. You know, I've had those with anchor chargers where it just flops out.

but I've actually gotten a like one inch extension cord that plugs into the power brick. And so now I don't have that problem anymore. So I'm good. I was just going to say, you can get anything on Amazon. They actually have these little, yours is one inch, mine is probably three inches long. And it is purely for that, just so that you can plug your brick in someplace where you can only get the cord and not the actual brick itself.

Yeah. But the takeaway from this is you probably don't need to worry about this vulnerability and this new vulnerability has already been patched. But, you know, it's something to be aware exists, especially like if you're like Rob was, you know, in a high security situation. This is the kind of thing that you have to be extra careful of. Absolutely. Those who need to mitigate it probably already were and are going to continue to be fine.

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Mondays bring whatever tidbit Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has from inside Apple to his Power One newsletter. This week, it's that Apple is working hard on its AI-driven glasses to compete with Meta's Ray-Ban glasses. Apple's version would feed information to you based on what it knows about the environment around you, maybe computer vision, audio, etc. And now we have a codename for the product in 50.

that was kind of my takeaway is like oh it's it's the n50 now we can talk about the n50 when we mean apple's meta ray-ban competitor they're still a couple years away from this if it ever comes out uh it does feel more and more these days like apple is following even more than it used to but i guess we even said that back in the tablet days so who knows when it comes to glasses apple just released something that is awesome

And you'll be okay. That's all it's going to take. Just release something that is awesome and you'll be fine.

Hot patching is the idea that you can apply a software update without having to reboot. We've talked about it coming to consumer editions of Windows, but it has been available in server editions of Windows in Microsoft's Azure Cloud for a while. Helps keep servers secure without experiencing downtime, right? So you don't have to lose a few nines off your uptime. Well, last year, Microsoft previewed it for Windows Server 2025 Standard, which is

which would mean a company could hot patch their servers in their own data centers. It wouldn't have to be hosted in Microsoft's cloud. A preview of that feature has been underway. That preview is going to end on June 30th. So yes, it's going to launch out a preview, which is good news, but it's also launching as a paid service, $1.50 per core per month for you to use it on your own premises.

Best of all, if your enterprise is testing the preview, you'll be automatically enrolled and charged during July 1st, unless you take action to disenroll. This is an enterprise story, but I just thought it was interesting that Microsoft is like, yep, we're just going to put a little charge in there, $1.50. We're just going to write fast, just charge you extra for stuff. By default, good luck with that, Microsoft. Let's see if we have an update to this story in the coming weeks, because I just don't see that flying.

because companies are going to say, well, you said that, but that doesn't mean that's what we're going to do. We negotiate these contracts when we negotiate the contracts, not just because you offered a new option for them. And Microsoft's going to say, well, then you don't have to use hot patching. And companies will say, fine, we won't use hot patching. Then there'll be a little standoff. So, yeah, we'll see how that plays out.

The Wall Street Journal reports that Huawei has started talking to some Chinese tech companies about testing its Ascend 910D chip. The chip is meant to replace the H100, which NVIDIA is not allowed to sell to Chinese companies. The 910D uses more power but comes close to the H100 in performance. I mean, it's a slow motion process and it could be subverted at any time. But China is being motivated to catch up faster now.

than it would have. Huawei in 2019 was on the ropes. It was almost eliminated as a company because of the restrictions the US put against it, but it has built back as a much more strong or stronger, more agile company. And yeah, the 910D is the successor to the 910C, which was even less power efficient. And the 910D, you still need a bunch of them to really emulate an H100, but they're getting closer and they're getting closer faster than they used to.

They're getting closer, and the operation of how China is doing things is changing. It's a slow crawl, but it's changing. We're going to really need to pay attention to that. Just saying, if tomorrow suddenly NVIDIA was allowed to sell a bunch of H100s or Blackwells to these companies, these companies would stop developing the Ascent. That is the motive. They would rather just buy it and spend their money elsewhere.

Anchor is crowdfunding a tabletop UV printer that can emboss almost any material from paper to wood to acrylic. It's called the Eufy Make M1, so it's under Anchor's Eufy brand. It uses ultraviolet curable ink to apply layers of color to a surface that dry almost immediately. And you have to get the ink from Anchor.

We don't know how much that's going to cost, but this is a much more affordable version of this kind of printer. This is not a new technology to be able to emboss things with UV curing.

But Anker is making it really affordable, if they make the ink affordable. It is slower than an inkjet printer. Anker told Gizmodo it would take about six minutes to print two 2x2 inch squares and then like 12 to 15 hours if you want to do a mid-size painting with full 3D texture. Also comes with a separate UV laminating machine if you want to do smaller jobs like stickers, so that's nice.

Kickstarter begins Tuesday, April 29th, and the printer will eventually sell for $1,900, which is a screaming bargain compared to what's out there, though Kickstarters can get it for even cheaper. Yeah, $1,900 sounds like a lot for a printer, but not for this type of printer. These things regularly go for 10x this.

So the fact that they were able to get this down to such an affordable price, comparatively speaking, is pretty impressive. Yeah, absolutely. It kind of makes me want to just start printing my own stickers at home, although it's slow, right? It's still slow, but it's pretty cool. You're going to see people take advantage of that. It's slow, but it's cheap. So time is money. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Brave released this cookie detection tool called Cookie Crumbler under an open source license. The system crawls websites and uses an LLM to detect cookie forms, then feeds them to GitHub for real people to review. Those reviews are used to automatically block cookies without breaking a site's functionality. After a privacy review, Brave will integrate this option into the Brave browser. The open source version of the system will be available for developers who work on ad blockers or audit websites.

Yeah, most people are going to care about this story when it actually comes to the Brave browser, if they use the Brave browser. But it's a pretty cool way to do this, which is I don't have to think, I don't have to program like a cookie-o-matic, you know, what...

options to take and have it try to figure them out. Just block everything that doesn't break the site. Because sometimes you are like, well, I don't want that cookie, but it breaks the site because of the checkout or whatever. This is a great way of combining human knowledge and LLMs. I think it's pretty cool. It really is. And it would actually make me go look at Brave because that is if you are blocking stuff, it tends to just break. That is a problem. This apparently is going to solve that. So it's pretty cool.

Wall Street Journal posted a report that it was able to get Meta's chatbots to engage in sexual conversations with users posing as teen children. So as far as the chatbot knew, it was talking to a teen. The article does not detail the prompts that were used, but said the chatbots avoided such conversations and attempted to redirect them until they asked the AI persona to, quote, go back to the prior scene.

Not sure exactly what that means, but it's sort of a like, let's start over again. And then it would break it out of its mitigations that we're trying to prevent this. A Meta spokesperson told the journal, the use case of this product in this way described is so manufactured that it's not just fringe, it's hypothetical.

They're trying to say nobody would ever do this. I kind of doubt that. But also, it's not something that you would just think of naturally. You'd have to want to do it to make it happen. Meta has since tightened up controls on such conversations, according to the journal, but has not eliminated the possibility of them.

Yeah, think about going back to a previous scene. I think that's how sometimes you'll get that little back arrow to where you ask a different question. It's like, no, I don't like that. Let me go back. And then you interact there again. I wonder if that is what's ultimately maybe tripping these things up to get you to be able to talk to them in a way that you probably shouldn't be able to talk to them. Journal points out that a red team should have figured that kind of thing out, but maybe.

And, you know, it's sort of implying that this is malpractice on Meta's part. I'll leave that up to y'all out there listening to decide whether you think it is or not. But it's not as straightforward as Meta didn't care at all. They did have some mitigations put in place. Journal folks were able to figure out how to get around them.

Brazil's finance minister will travel to California on Friday to meet with tech companies about locating data centers in Brazil. Reuters sources say he will offer tax exemptions as an incentive. ByteDance has reportedly already signed up for the plan, which still needs presidential authorization.

Google's first and second gen Nest thermostats will lose support starting in October. The models came out in 2011 and 2012, respectively, before Google owned Nest. So that's, you know, 13 years or so. After October, the devices will still work.

They'll just not get software updates. They won't be able to connect to Google Cloud. You won't be able to control them from the Google Home app, but you can use them on the wall like a regular old thermostat. This is a bigger deal in Europe where there have been no new Nest thermostats sold since 2014.

So there's not a new Nest you can go buy. Google recommends replacing them with a third-party unit if you're in Europe. If you still use one of these, Google is also offering some discounts. So check your email because they may have sent you a little discount on an upgrade and even discounts on third-party.

Well, Tom, if I have to get up and walk to my nest, probably means Rob's going to be getting a new nest sometime in the not too distant future. I had a first gen nest thermostat until I installed my heat pump two years ago, at which point I had to upgrade to a new nest because the first gen did not support heat pumps. So I dodged a bullet there just by upgrading my heater. But if I hadn't, I'd probably be looking to get a new nest thermostat.

We want to get to a much faster remedy hearing in the second of Google's two antitrust cases. This one is about ad tech. Judge Brinkema set the remedy hearing to begin May 2nd. Yeah, there's so many of these. It's hard to keep track. But this is the second one. It's the more recent one. It's the one that's about the advertising industry, not about search. And yeah, they're already at the remedy hearing. They're just now doing the remedy hearing for the first one that was from last year. So moving at a faster pace. Those are the. Yeah, go ahead.

I was gonna say yeah this was definitely really fast seeing how it like the second is later this week yeah uh those are the essentials for today let's dive a little deeper as generative models advance a lot of folks are waiting to see if it can be used in a productive way Andy Beach tells us how Warner Brothers Discovery has implemented it to improve live sports coverage Andy thanks again for coming back to help us understand something man hey Tom great to see you so uh

I love this story that you're going to tell us about because it's one of the fewer examples. They're becoming more numerous, but one of the fewer examples of in the wild where you can watch it, see AI actually be used to improve something, not just sort of like pointed to in the corner as a demo. Tell us what's going on with cycling here.

Yeah, absolutely. So there's the cycling. So AWS has announced that they collaborated with Warner Brothers Discovery Europe specifically on a new tool they call the Cycling Central Intelligence or CCI tool.

And what that really is, is a small AI platform that they've built on top of an LLM that will allow mountain biking broadcast to enhance the storytelling and effectively enrich the commentary they're getting.

Part of the problem with particularly live production is that because there's a lot of data complexity, obviously there's a lot of very specialized language around something like a sports game of any sort, but cycling and mountain biking, I think in particular. And what they've now done is...

The way that we've tackled this with AI already is creating pretty structured data sets that then sit in a way that they can be accessed by the large language model. That's just called RAG, or retrieval augmented generation, which is something that's common, at least in the developer worlds.

What this does though is this creates something that any sports production team could go pick up and use off the shelf with things like Amazon Bedrock and Claude 3.5 in order to immediately assemble their own. So this becomes sort of the easy, no-code, low-code version of bringing a thing together. So now they could just drag a bunch of services together like Amazon Translate or Amazon Comprehend together

uh where there's already a connection made into the system for it and they can immediately put it up and begin using it as part of their live production workflow it's almost like they've just hired an ai agent or a series of ai agents really that can now be part of their production broadcast team which means that they're getting better summaries they're getting better higher quality transcripts that have the right names and the right uh

actions or particular product names that come up as part of the sport. And a lot of other time-consuming research tasks just got easier so that the commentators are able to focus on telling the story and not trying to scramble and find the right thing.

Yeah. So how does I imagine we wouldn't necessarily see this happen as viewers. We would hear the effect of it unless, of course, maybe there's a brand deal with Amazon to say, here's your AWS commentary fact or something. But but more often than not, it's probably just going to come out in the commentary. How would how could we tell it's being used differently than, say, like StatCast on Major League Baseball or something like that?

I think what we're going to see, and I was actually, it was fascinating to me that they tested it out with something smaller like mountain biking, which, you know, is popular, but isn't, you know, the NBA or the NFL or Premier League or something else. But it has its own language. And what we now see, and I think the way that it shows up, and you're absolutely right, is

It's invisible to us that AI is involved, but the quality of the production should be higher. It should be leveled up.

And if they can do it at a budget for these smaller leagues, it means that we're going to see a lot more high quality sports production for the niche markets that don't have an NFL or a premier league budget behind them to go do this stuff. I can now suddenly have a pretty compelling and interesting pickleball, uh, live stream or other, other things. Uh, I think it even will bleed into honestly, uh,

university and high school sports now being able to take advantage of this. So now suddenly my child's volleyball games are going to have production quality that is on par with something that I would expect to see on, you know, maybe not ESPN, but maybe ESPN 4 or 8 or somewhere else.

Yeah, I can see that because when you're talking about major sports like the NFL, there's a bank of producers. Usually one or more of them are tasked with looking up relevant stories and stats, right? And they can feed that to the commentators. Obviously, those people will be able to benefit from this too because it'll speed up their job, but they're really good at that. The high school sports broadcaster sitting up in the gym doesn't have that, but now they do.

Yeah, they can now have access to it. So, you know, I've sort of said this a lot when we talk about things, but the implication you see here is a democratization. People that did not have access to the quality production, they know what a good production looks like, but they simply didn't have enough people or enough budget to do it. This gives them that opportunity to do it, and it's because of AI. Yeah.

Is it going to be affordable, though? I think that would be the question that the high school sports broadcaster is going to ask. Like, yeah, great. Warner Brothers Discovery can do this with AWS. Can I?

Yeah, and absolutely. And we recently talked about the Andy Jassy piece, and this comes back to that. It might be more expensive when it first comes out, but as a rule of thumb, we see regularly in either six-month or 12-month cycles the cost of this going down because we're either getting better chipsets or we're getting –

The developers are getting more efficient at the token consumption that goes on between the models for these interactions. And that drives the cost down and that allows them to set the cost lower that will make it affordable. So if it's not affordable today, it probably will be in the very near future.

Yeah, I think the thing that attracts me the most to this story is it's not creating stories. It's not adding video to the broadcast, although I suppose it could. It really is just taking a set of defined and verified facts and combing through them and presenting them so that a human can then make better use of them.

Yeah, absolutely. And, and the, it's not creating content. You're, you're, you're absolutely correct, but it's, it's helping fulfill the notes and the other pieces that help the humans make the better content. Uh, there, there are pieces and I didn't see it directly in here, but I did a little digging around the sports video group page where, where I saw this. And I've, I talked to some folks at, at NAB recently where, where this also came up and there are absolutely things like being able to assign, uh,

effectively a camera agent that's allowing you to track a per uh you know a particular athlete across multiple shots and throwing those into the live production a human can always go override it but if you can automate some of that cutting you're reducing their their need to to constantly stay vigilant on on top of it and if something goes wrong with the shot that's live the the camera uh the agent might be able to actually cut away before the human can react to it

And looking down the road, obviously fans can take advantage of this. This could be something provided alongside the broadcast for you to be able to ask questions to, for you to pick the style of coverage or shots that you want, I suppose.

Yeah, no, absolutely. And I think this is actually the kind of the data-driven side of the consumption of particularly sports. And I'm a great example here. I don't watch any sports in reality. I've worked with a lot of sports leagues over the years, but it's just I genetically don't particularly care about it as much. And so therefore, when I sit down and actually watch a game, which I will do as part of the work that I'm doing, I immediately feel like I'm behind. And I'm often literally...

Googling and searching for things that everybody else understands and knows. But I could actually have the system potentially generate commentary that explains things more for me.

because I'm a novice. And over time, maybe it does less and less of that because I become more proficient. And so that's pretty amazing. Like when you think about that level of it, you can now learn about things, but also consume entertainment in your way, even though it was produced for a different audience. And it can explain the infield fly rule to someone instead of me, which will be good for me too.

Absolutely. Andy, thanks again for joining us. You have an excellent Substack. I highly recommend people follow it. Andy's got some really thought-provoking and interesting articles there. If folks want to subscribe, where should they go? Thanks so much. Tom, I'm trying to cover the intersection of AI and media technology at abeach.substack.com. Thanks again, man. Thank you.

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S. So I mainly stayed out of it. Last Friday night, I saw on Blue Sky a post from Wario64 that Walmart was having pre-orders come and go at random times and was also region-based. I tried on my phone.

No luck, so I quickly gave up. It was 1:30 a.m. and I wanted to go back to sleep. A few hours later, I woke up, did my morning routine, and came to sit down at my computer to drink some coffee and listen to a podcast and thought to myself, "Let's try again." To my surprise, I was able to order one and a $500 bundle too. Even hours after ordering mine, the non-bundle was still available on and off.

So there you go. It is possible, folks, to get a Switch 2 if you want one. Mohan is proof. So I'm going to have to go check this out because I did try to get one. And I probably spent a good 45 minutes. It wasn't an hour. It was probably 45, 50 minutes. And I was like, I'll just wait. There's no impending reason why I have to have it on day one. So as long as I can get one like this summer, I think I'm going to be okay.

Yeah. And I think Mohan shows that if everybody's trying at the same time, right, it's much harder. But he just he kind of hit an off hour. He hit an off cycle because it was early in the morning and it was at a third party reseller. So, yeah, that's that's that's the way to go about it. You got to just keep trying at weird times in different ways. And if you're really trying.

And again, he said he didn't try that hard, but he tried a couple of times. So I think that's harder than a lot of people who probably try once or give up or like me who hasn't tried at all. I'm just like, you know what? No worry about it later. I'm definitely going to try because I really want one, but I'm not going to put that much effort into getting me. I know eventually I'll be able to get one. So it's not that big a deal to me. That's kind of where I'm at, too.

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