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Apple CEO Tim Cook took to X to announce a product launch for next Wednesday, February 19th, saying, quote, get ready to meet the newest member of the family. Oh, the post shows an animated GIF or GIF, depending on who you are, of a liquid metallic Apple logo. It's surrounded by this slowly pulsing circular indentation. And of course, as is always the case, everyone's working hard to decipher any sort of clues from the image.

Some are thinking it looks like an AirTag. Others are going way bigger with the hopes of like smart glasses or something like that. But we've got Bloomberg's Mark Gurman to tell us probably with high likelihood what it actually is, convinced that this signals the arrival of the long rumored update to the iPhone SE. Gurman has been sharing details of an upcoming launch of the new phone targeting next week.

Since last Thursday. So the timing of this new tweet that happened just today seems to fall in line with Gurman's prediction. The unannounced iPhone SE is rumored to feature a design similar to the iPhone 14. It'll have an A18 chip, Apple intelligence, larger display, USB-C connectivity. Gurman also shares that the SE will be the first to use Apple's in-house cellular modem. It's going to replace the one that they've used for so long by Qualcomm.

The new SE will not have the home button. And this is actually a big deal because it marks the end of that interface since being introduced in the very first iPhone back in 2007. It is also expected to support Face ID instead of Touch ID. That kind of makes sense if the home button's disappearing. And finally, it might have an

action button, you know, to tie into the rear-facing camera or whatever you want it to actionize. Gurman expects that the new device will go on sale sometime later this month. You won't have to wait very long. It'll be priced similarly, he says, to entry-level devices by Google and by Samsung.

Cook's tweet appears to be a teaser. So don't go hoping that this is some sort of event invite. It's possible that whatever Apple announces will be done with more like a press release approach in the Apple newsroom website. This also lines up with Gurman's reporting from last week where he said that he indicated that it's unlikely we'll see other major announcements as well. So don't expect a Vision Pro update.

Although Gurman has shared that the Apple Vision Pro reps are actively contacting press about an upcoming announcement, probably not this one. And this last point is kind of a side note on this, but definitely worth noting the fact that Tim Cook made this announcement on X.

This happened on the same day that Apple has resumed advertising on the social media platform, which it had first halted its ad business there more than a year ago after there were controversial comments made by that platform's CEO, Elon Musk. So...

When I'm curious, Apple hasn't updated the iPhone SE since 2022. So about three years ago. I don't know. What do you think? I mean, we live so much of our lives in the Android world, but is there something about the SE that you like that you wish we had? I'm just so fascinated because, you know, a lot of times with gestures or, you know, like

Not gestures necessarily, but specific UI features and a big one like the home button. A lot of like a user, you know, I feel like a button like that is obviously central to a user's experience. I haven't, to be fair, used an iPhone very much, but it's such a kind of

primary point of interaction with the phone, I am so curious about what they're replacing the home button with. And this is like where as an Android user, I'm my experience is falling short. Like, is there already like a gesture that replaces it? Is it going to be something? And I, I have to, I wonder like not to, you know, put my tinfoil hat on,

But that circular kind of pulse, like that circular round pulse that was in the teaser, it kind of makes me wonder, is that just the replacement for the home button? Is there going to be a gesture or some kind of animation or something that that's, you know...

because it kind of looks like the home button a little bit. I was kind of wondering if it's like a dimple on the back of the phone. Remember those old Motorola phones? They have like the slight indentation with the Motorola logo in it. It's very satisfying because your finger could just like rest there. Before, I think rear-facing fingerprint sensors were a big deal. Yeah, I do miss that. I do miss the notch. And that does feel very, I guess, Apple-y because Apple's all about the consummate, like the holistic touch.

of a device and of hardware. So I think that actually would be a cool idea if we want to keep our tinfoil hats on. But I'm just kind of curious to see what that means for VRC.

the operating system experience. And I mean, do users use, I mean, iOS folks, do you use the home button a lot or is it just something maybe they found that? Yeah. Well, I mean, I think, you know, I also don't live much of my life in the iPhone world necessarily, but I do know that they've been doing gestures for a long time. And this is really at this stage,

My understanding is the iPhone SE getting rid of the home button. This is kind of like the last frontier. This is the last device that still has one. So they've had one for a long time. They've really phased it out on most of the other models. It's just...

for whatever reason, the one released in 2022 still had one. Now they're letting it go and they're going all in on Face ID instead of that Touch ID integration into the home button, that sort of thing. So I don't think it's as much of a challenge to kind of work around that because they do have the gestures. But I do have a question for you.

about the iPhone SE because my daughter, my older daughter, the first iPhone that she bought with her own money, because I've got tons of free Android devices, right? And I said, if you want to get an iPhone, you got to buy it. She bought the 2020 iPhone SE. And so that was my first time with that. And it is a very small device. These devices, you know, definitely qualify as a small, smaller smartphone, sub, you know, five inch smartphone.

Apple's throwing some love that way. And I guess the question that I have is, you know, is it too limited? Are devices that are smaller too limited in ways? You know, like, is it enough of it like a premium smartphone when it's smaller? Because I know on Android, usually smaller comes with less power. But here you're still getting, you know, your A18 chip. You're still getting...

It's the first time for that cellular modem. It doesn't sound like there's many trade-offs other than a single camera for this smaller device. That's great for small phone fans. Yeah, and I think there's small phone fans. They're more out there than you think. And I think even myself, I miss the days of a small phone.

And we haven't seen too many small flagship phones. I think the biggest example I can think of was just to go to the other side of the aisle, the Google Pixel 9, which came in two sizes, like the flagship version came in two sizes. So I don't think so. I think a lot of times there are plenty of people, small hand people, or just people that don't have a lot of like finger flexibility. Or pocket room. Or pocket room. And I love the idea though, that small could also be premium. Right.

And that, you know, given that we've seen a lot of phones just emphasize thinness and like

like thinness. I'm not sure why we can't just apply that same level of engineering and squeeze in as much as possible from a height perspective. So I'm excited. And actually, I think there's something, there feels like there could be something very aptly also about creating a sophisticated, well-built, but in a sense, simpler experience, like powerful, but still simplified experience. So I think that still could be very aptly to create something awesome and small. It was kind of funny. My husband and I were

not like lamenting the old days or kind of finally remembering the old days of like the iPod Nano and all the versions of the iPods. And man, weren't those really great devices and how small they were and, you know, how portable they were. They were so cute. So maybe, I don't know, this is maybe taking some of that like...

like previous ingenuity and design back. I'm into it. I'm into it. I really do. And I do think there is a market for small phones. More, please. More, more. Yeah, I agree. And we're not going to have to wait too long to find out, it sounds like, unless we're totally surprised. But I have a feeling Gurman knows what he's talking about.

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OpenAI Sam Altman took to X to share a little bit about the company's roadmap, saying that the current offerings have become a little too complicated for lots of people to parse. So Altman says that GPT 4.5 will be the last model to lack chain thought. So

So all future models will include reasoning capabilities. And beyond that, OpenAI is canceling the release of the O3 reasoning model. And instead, GPT-5 will integrate O3 and be offered for unlimited use by free users at the standard intelligence settings.

Paid users will gain access to even higher levels of intelligence. But we don't really have an exact timeline that was shared for either of these releases other than weeks or months. Nothing finer than that. Yeah. OpenAI is really sharing a lot right now about what's coming. And you have to imagine all the pressure that they've been feeling from the deep seek news is why we're hearing about this a lot in advance. Timeline, that's pretty interesting stuff. Yeah.

Speaking of OpenAI, they have confirmed receipt of an official buyout letter from Elon Musk. However, Musk's lawyers say that the $97.4 billion bid will be withdrawn if OpenAI just ceases its plans to transition to a for-profit business. Now we're starting to see why this happened in the first place. The court filing says that if OpenAI, quote, preserves the charity's mission,

The acquisition attempt will be withdrawn. Another quote. Otherwise, the charity must be compensated by what an arm's length buyer will pay for its assets. End quote. The charity referred to is OpenAI's non-profit parent company. And Sam Altman has yet to respond publicly to at least this latest development. Interesting.

Google is rolling new child safety features into its products. So later this year, Google will be testing a machine learning feature on YouTube that will assess users' ages when they access adult content. And this machine learning will consider past searches, video categories, and the account's age, like how long the account's been open. If a user is identified as under 18...

Stricter underage restrictions will automatically be applied. And Google will also expand the rollout of the school time app for Android devices, which limits features and apps during school hours. Yeah, that was a feature that was first in their, I think their ACE wearables. And now they're bringing it to more devices. Very useful. As a parent, very useful.

Amazon is beta testing a shopping feature that will show product results from brand websites for purchase. So searches on Amazon will actually show products from Amazon store as you have long expected alongside some products that are only carried on those brands websites. So you'd click on the product.

That would take the user to the website to purchase the item directly. If the brand uses Buy With Prime on Amazon, that Prime perk, you know, things like free shipping will actually also be offered through the website purchase. No word yet on whether Amazon takes a cut of the third party sale.

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Apple is updating the Google TV app as well, bringing those content types into the living room app with an option to pay using Google Play billing, of course. Before the update, users had to subscribe first on another device. So we're cutting a little bit. Thank you, Apple. As an Android fan. Thank you. Absolutely.

Apple has its sights on humanoid robots, according to a scoop from Ming-Chi Kuo. An Apple research paper details non-anthropomorphic robots like a Pixar-style lamp, of course. The proof-of-concept system would be part of a future smart home ecosystem that could also be related to earlier rumors that we've heard of a robotic arm project with an attached iPad display. So an arm attached, you know, with the display attached to it.

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So Baidu CEO Robin Li told attendees at the World Government Summit in Dubai this week that its vehicles are, quote, 10 times safer than human drivers. ApolloGo is currently operating in 11 cities throughout mainland China.

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Apple iPhones in China are set to use Alibaba's AI technology, confirming rumors of that collaboration. Alibaba's co-founder, Joe Tsai, spoke at the World Government Summit in Dubai as well and shared that Apple had talked with many companies in China before deciding on Alibaba to power AI in their iPhones sold in that country. Now, you might wonder why. Well, China's regulations require Apple to partner with a locally accredited company. Features of the upcoming partnership

are still known. Or sorry, unknown. We don't know what they are yet. Well, say goodbye to one hardware player in the VR space. Microsoft is officially out of the VR hardware business with the transfer of its $22 billion contract for the Integrated Visual Augmentation System, IVAS, to Anduril.

This marks the end of the HoloLens project, which was first launched back in 2016. Andorra, led by Palmer Luckey, will now develop a specialized version of the HoloLens for the U.S. Army. This is aiming to enhance soldier capabilities with its augmented reality technology. Oh, it's been such a long time with HoloLens in Microsoft's portfolio. Got to say goodbye sometime.

Those are the essentials for today. Why don't we dive a little deeper in the ongoing stories and follow up? So Netflix opened a restaurant in the MGM Grand Casino in Las Vegas this week. It's called Netflix Bites and features, unsurprisingly, Netflix themed items like Orange is the New Mac, mac and cheese.

bird boxed fried chicken and red bite green bite for squid game. It's obviously, obviously a really fun fan fan idea for fans of Netflix. But how is the food? Well, Tom decided we had to find out when I heard that Netflix had opened a restaurant in Las Vegas. The first thing I did was message our friend on the ground in Las Vegas, uh, Mitzula. Uh, and I didn't expect you to go right over there for lunch, Mitzula. Thanks for doing that.

Hey, I was driving. I was like driving right by there doing some errands. And you texted me, said, do you want to check out the new Netflix place? And I was like, I need somewhere to go for lunch today. Sure, that'll work. Fantastic. So tell us all about it. Is it where is it? And you don't happen to know what it replaced, do you, in the MGM? It replaced their Cafe Avenue, Avenue Cafe, whatever it was, like their basic cafe. It's right in the middle of the casino floor. Like when you walk in. Okay, so easy to get to.

Yeah, when you walk in from like you park or you go to the main lobby, you walk in and you go right across Casino 4 and you see it straight from the Casino 4. It's straight across. It's right there. Just a giant net place. So not hidden away in a corner somewhere. Yeah, it's not like the other stuff down in the alley or they have a spot with like a little like strip mall kind of area in the back that's got a lot of food court options in it. No, this is like front and center on the Casino 4. They are not hiding it. It is definitely there to bring attention.

And you sent me a bunch of photos of it. It looks gorgeous, which it should because it's brand new. You know, what what's it like when you go in? When you walk up, it's it's got the very similar side of like the old cafe, like on the outside, you see the little bar in the front and you see the big Netflix sign, the Netflix bite sign, and you walk up to the hostess stand.

And then there's like really cool artwork all around it. That's kind of like modern artwork inspired by Netflix shows. So there was like one with like the squid game guy that's like a hot dog. And there was like one of the Scoops Ahoy people from, you know, Stranger Things. And there was some Bridgerton art and there was just a bunch of crazy artwork around there. And there was a little glass case. I don't know if it was actually used props or replicas, but there were some like small things from like different shows that were there.

And then the, uh, the menu had, uh, I only had the brunch menu. I got two of the four, apparently there's four pages of total menu, but there was like a breakfast and lunch combination on the menu I got. And then there was another dinner menu that I didn't get to see until I saw the menu posted online. Yeah. I saw that they were doing three seatings. They've got breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Sounds like you got the lunch, the brunchy lunch. Yeah. I went there, I went there like one o'clock. It was walk right in. It's only their second day of sock openings. So I don't think very many people even know it's there yet. So.

Yeah, I gotcha. But it is a, you know, you wait to be seated situation. It's not just walk-in order at the counter. It's a proper restaurant. Yeah, like we walked in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They took my information. I got seated immediately, but I was assuming they'd all have a wait list if it's busy or they are starting reservations in two weeks. So I think those are pretty, pretty solid up already. But this is kind of their let's work the kinks out. Let's get the staff worked in. Let's make sure the kitchen's doing all of its stuff. Yeah.

let's get some food syrup so dts on dts live we uh we joked around about the menu a bit talked about things we'd like to see what was it like to to order like how how did the menu appear to you were you laughing and how did you decide what to get i mean i looked the nice thing was is the menu that i got was only two pages it was a little shorter like the online ones for it i was like that's a lot of options so the brunch helped out a little bit i uh

I kind of wanted to go off shows, but I just kind of went with whatever sounded good. So I ended up getting the, they call them disco fries, but essentially it was poutine that's kind of inspired by Glow, which is some New Jersey fries. And that was pretty solid. And then I got some bulgogi tacos that are just kind of Korean inspired. I don't know if it's just supporting all of the K-dramas they have on Netflix or exactly what. Now the table next to me did get the red light, green light chicken.

from Squid Game, which had the girl doll and you would spin the wheel and it would land on either red, yellow or green. And green was the mild, yellow was the medium and red was the hot sauce for which one you're supposed to dunk your chicken in. I don't remember a yellow in Squid Game, but that's still fun. I like it. Yeah, yeah, it was right. Yeah, I was like, I guess they just had three sauces. They're like, well, we got three sauces, so let's make them work.

So it's red light, yellow and parentheses, green light chicken. Okay. So, so it sounds like you can, you can make this as, as, as fun and interactive or not as, as you want. Like there's some more elaborate dishes like that or just basic tacos. Yeah, there was, there was a full, like, well, there's two big things that you can get for like the table. They're like packaged things. And there was like one that's like a full Bridgerton tea set.

So it was like tea service with finger sandwiches and stuff like that. That was 65. Then there was one that was 11's chicken and waffles, which is like a, she said it was like a two tiered platter with like a light side and a dark side. And like the light side was like,

the waffle or the chicken and some of that stuff and the dark side was like dark waffles and dark sauces and spices and stuff like that so that was also 65 that was I needed she said you need a couple people to go through those you can order it for one but yeah and apparently there's a one piece sushi boat too yeah I saw that I saw the one piece stuff but I think that was only on the dinner there wasn't any one piece stuff I could see I did see some one piece themed the beverage menu was very very very intense there was like a

a beverage for every Netflix show you can imagine, including like a stranger things, old fashioned with cotton candy on top of it. That was kind of interesting. And there was like a one piece drink and there was a bunch, there was like drinks for every show. I mean, shows I didn't even know Netflix had, had drinks on it. Right, right. Yeah. They might get new viewers just, just based on the menu. Okay. So the important point, how was the food?

The food was actually not horrible. It was pretty solid food for a strip destination type restaurant that could get away with serving mediocre food. The food was actually very good. The poutine

The fries were super crispy. The gravy was good. The cheese curds were nice. The tacos were, the bulgogi was actually really good and there was a ton of it in those three little tacos. Now, it was expensive because it is strip pricing. So it was like 19 for the poutine and like 25 for the tacos, which, you know, $8 a street taco was a little high. But,

Compared to most of the other restaurants in the MGM Grand, it's right on strip pricing. So it is a little expensive, but I think people will enjoy it. I'm not going to go out of my way to go there, but it was nice.

So a lot of people, I think, look at these prices, at least I did, and think, oh, there's a Netflix surcharge. You're paying for the experience. But it sounds like what you're saying is like, yeah, this is pretty normal for where it's at. I mean, yeah, tacos are, I mean, it's going to be, it's 18 to 20 for an appetizer and 25 to 30 for an entree anywhere on the strip.

So like the portions were actually pretty decent sized portions. Like I was surprised with the amount of food offered. The table next to me also got these pancakes that had like a donut and a cookie and like a bunch of stuff on it. There was some crazy stuff coming out as well as some traditional stuff. Like they had basic burgers and some basic sandwiches and stuff like that. But they also had some very festive themed dishes as well.

And and quality wise, maybe not like your favorite record restaurant and recommend going there all the time, but above expectations, it sounded like. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was I mean, we're not talking five star gourmet, but it was very like on the terms of like cafe food, like a hotel cafe. It was better than that. It was it was pretty solid food offerings. OK, he had a day two of a soft open. The food was very good.

Gotcha. Gotcha. Would you recommend if someone's in Vegas that it was is worth their time?

If you're in the area, I would say it for that. I wouldn't be like, let's book a trip to Vegas to go to this. But if you're going to be here for something else, swing by the MGM Grand. It's a nice, it's a nice, it's a nice ad, especially if you're a fan of a particular Netflix show. Like there was a lot of, there was Bridgerton stuff. There was, you know, Stranger Things stuff. There was Cobra Kai stuff. There was stuff for all sorts of shows. Like if you're even in remote Netflix, Netflix fan, there's a lot, there's something there that you're going to like.

So worth a cab ride even sounds like maybe. Yeah. I mean, and it's also, you know, that, that end of the strip, you're probably, if you're coming to Vegas, you're going to end up on that end of the strip or something. If you're going to a hockey game or a concert or car, you know, or something like that on that side of the strip, it's definitely worth checking out. Fantastic. Mazzoula, thanks so much for doing that. I appreciate you having lunch for us and sharing your lunch experience.

I mean, anytime you need somebody to go out and eat and report back, I am not going to object. Fantastic. Yeah, you are now the official food correspondent of Daily Tech News Show. Thank you. Be right back. I got to go update my LinkedIn profile. If people do want to follow you, is there a place they should go? I'm at Zula pretty much everywhere. Twitter, The Loose Guy, Instagram. I'm at Zula on all the things. So I'm not too hard to find. Fantastic. Thanks, man.

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