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This is the Daily Tech News for Friday. Happy Friday, everybody. March 7th, 2025. We tell you what you need to know. Follow up on context. Help each other understand this crazy old technology world. Today, John Croteau, CEO of Python, tells us more about their wearable technologies and then a little something from your emails. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm Wynne Twitdow. Let's start with what you need to know with the big story. I'm no fun, Wynne.

I know, Tom. It's okay. I know. I'm that guy. APOC underscore V posted a story from the register called Pentagon to give AI agents a role in decision-making ops planning. And immediately people started making jokes about, you know, AI precision and Doge. And then I wandered in and Debbie downed the entire party because fortunately, or unfortunately, I guess, depending on your background,

This story is not about giving robots guns or building Skynet yet, or even obvious government graft.

As part of the U.S. Defense Innovation Unit's Thunder Forge project, a company called Scale AI will provide agents, agentic AI, that will help in planning and operations. The project isn't just using Scale AI. It will use Anduril's Lattice software and Microsoft's large language models out of Azure, with Scale providing the agent that takes advantage of both of those.

The U.S. Defense Innovation Unit, or DIU, told the Register it will draw on a database of, quote, up-to-date validated information across all classification levels. So they're limiting what information it can give you to reduce things like inaccuracies and hallucination. They want this thing to be really accurate and helpful.

The idea is to use the agent to rapidly simulate war games and scenarios and then offer information, including proposed courses of action. So commanders could use this in mission planning, in campaign development, allocating resources, strategic assessments, that kind of thing.

The U.S. military already uses Scale AI's products in non-combat areas like after action reports and measuring performance. So this is an expansion into aiding humans in making decisions in combat operations. System is going to be tested with the U.S. Indo-Pacific Command headquartered in Hawaii and the U.S. European Command based in Germany. So it's an effort to speed up decision making.

A lot of the stuff they said in support of this was, you know, warfare moves faster than ever. We're using Napoleonic era decision making technology, which I guess means human brains. And I don't know, that made me think of like those big wooden sticks where you move models of the troops across the board. So I don't think it's quite that bad, but they want to speed things up for the modern age. So it appears to be picking a combination of the best systems from multiple competitive providers, none of which are currently working for the U.S. government.

and the company getting the award was founded by Chinese-American Alexander Wang and Lucy Goh. It's not an easy stereotype of a story. So again, I apologize to the folks having fun on Reddit for me being no fun.

I'm okay with you not being fun in this regard, because I think if you look at the headline, the first thing you think is, are they just going to type in what should I do here into chat GPD and then just roll out with Pentagon? But I think that was my first reaction when I saw the headline. I was like, oh, dear. Sure, mine too.

Yeah. But actually, I have a little context on this because I it's really weird. I used to work for the Navy labs and I actually studied multi agent systems, which is a form of AI, not the same thing as agentic AI necessarily in school. So I guess for what it's worth, a lot of these problems and a lot of these solutions have been in the works for a long time. It's not just.

You know, for example, oh, everyone's using AI now. Let's use AI too at the Pentagon. These are like long research techniques and things like that. And actually, especially the ops thing is very interesting. For example, I think I can say at least this much. When I was in school, one of the problems that I worked on was scheduling, which is basically you have a resource. You have either time or physical slots to put those resources and you have a bunch of constraints.

Those problems get really, really, really hard. And, you know, AI, different kind of AI based techniques can be really, really good at helping you solve those problems that a human, you know, sitting at a whiteboard with a lot of markers trying really hard might have a harder time and take a really long time to do. So a lot of these things are just things that people have been working on. So I guess that's

No fun, but also feel better about any existential crises or panics that you're having that we might end up in like a Matthew Broderick war game scenario or something. So, yes. Yeah. Yeah. The only winning move is not to play like that hasn't changed. But still, this is not the, you know, the computer taking over the thermonuclear war game. Yeah.

And having used enough of these tools now, I get the idea of sometimes you know there's an answer and you kind of know what the right answer will look like, but you don't want to go through the time that it will take. And you can put it into a large language model or even better in a gentic, like deep research kind of model and say,

give me the answer. And you'll know when you get it, whether it was done right or not, you'll be able to see that, but it'll just be done faster. Right. And that's the kind of thing you're talking about with scheduling. So I get why, where this would be very helpful and things like that. Absolutely. I mean, humans make mistakes. You,

Your mileage might vary on whether you think we make more or less mistakes than, say, a lot of the LLMs or agentic models, rightly. But yeah, it's just giving us another way of processing data, coming up with... And coming with, I guess, a confidence score on whether the answer...

is right or how right the answer is or yeah, it's, it's not as, it's not as crazy. It's not Skynet. Thank goodness. Yeah. And you know what? I just realized you could probably take comfort in the fact that there are plenty of generals and commanders and bosses of all kinds in the world who won't take advice from anyone, including agentic AI. So they're just going to do what they think is the right thing. It's always the human element for better or for worse. Yep. Exactly. Yeah.

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Well, at Mobile World Congress, Australia's cortical labs showed off CL1, a computer powered by living tissue, specifically human brain cells. Hold on a minute before we, I think we fell into another sci-fi movie, but hold on a second. Don't worry about the AI taking over the military, but we did put a brain in a jar. Yeah.

Okay, well, this particular system takes advantage of the ability of neurons to rewire and learn dynamically. So instead of using raw computer power to simulate a neural network, the CL1 uses an actual neural network, the thing that they were actually based on. The neurons sit on an electrode array and electrical signals, or electric signals rather, strengthen or weaken connections.

One use of the system would be to test how neurons react to different compounds in real time for the treatment of diseases like Alzheimer's and Parkinson's, as well as speeding up clinical trials. It can also be used for robotics and autonomous systems.

A full server rack of these units uses as much energy as a high-end gaming PC. It's a little more expensive than a high gaming PC. Each unit costs $35,000 and is available through a cloud service from Cortico Labs. Yes, this is in fact a shipping commercialized product. Yeah, you have the means.

You can rent some time from a brain in a jar. It is not a brain in a jar. Let's just be clear about that. Let me go back to being no fun again. It is a very small number of cells spread out on an electrode. The chances of it gaining consciousness are vanishingly close to zero. There's a lot of ethical guidelines if you want to dig into that stuff that they put in place, but mostly these things are just

taking in numbers and putting out numbers. So it's just faster and more power efficient at doing that. So amazing. So much of our...

computing knowledge and history and just the way that we do things is based on natural processes like the brain. And now we've gotten to a point in 2025 where we're circling back around and just being like, all right, we're just going to go to the source now and use that. It's amazing. You know what's really good at this stuff? The brain. Yeah. Actual brain stuff like neurons. Like they're really good. Yeah.

I'd be remiss if I didn't point out the Star Trek Voyager connection with the neural processing, the neural packets or whatever they were called. I can't remember. Oh, yeah. The little packages. And then there was one episode where they all turned black because they got a cold or something. Like an actual virus. Yeah.

I went a little more old school. At first, when I read this, I thought of the time that someone stole Spock's brain and put it in a box. Yes. Right. So yes, the prototype. Yeah. So not that more of the gel packages that got a cold on Voyager. So more like that. We're close to closer to that.

We had some fun on Wednesday talking to models from Sesame, Miles and Maya, which are based on Meta's Llama models. Well, the Financial Times reports that Meta wants to make that a shipping feature in its own stuff and plans to improve the voice features in its next flagship model, Llama 4. At a Morgan Stanley conference this week, Meta chief product officer Chris Cox said that Llama 4 will be an omni model capable of interpreting and outputting speech, text and other types of data.

Well, on Wednesday, a federal judge in Brazil ordered Apple to let third party apps into the app store there within 90 days. So this ruling is in response to a decision made by a regulator in November that unsurprisingly, Apple has been appealing. The judge did note, however, that since Apple has implemented similar changes in Europe, it can do so in Brazil as well.

And we certainly expect Apple to appeal this ruling as well. Yeah. No, Apple was trying to say like, well, we need a lot of more time to implement this. And the judge is like, we gave you some time and you implemented it somewhere. So, you know, maybe look at what you did there. I don't know.

Uh, speaking of Apple, there's always followups after an Apple announcement. We have a couple to note here. Uh, maybe three, we have the introduction of an M four Mac book air, the M three Mac book air, therefore is now discontinued. That's not a surprise, but what may be a surprise is that the M two Mac book air is remaining available in non-Apple retail channels. So you won't go into an Apple store and find it. Uh,

but you can find it in other stores for less than the new M4 version. Also, the first benchmarks of the Mac studios, M3 ultra are in, uh, the benchmarks of the M3 ultra are higher than the M4 max on geek bench six, but not that much. Uh, keep in mind that the benchmark is just for the CPU and the M3 ultra has an improved GPU as well, up to 80 cores, uh, as well as higher memory bandwidth. So in practice, uh,

You may see the M3 Ultra perform better at a lot of tasks. The takeaway seems to be if you don't need GPU intensive tasks, you can probably opt for the M4 Max studio and save yourself a few dollars. But if you do need GPU intensive stuff, that M3 Ultra will probably benefit you.

Finally, the Apple spokesperson Jacqueline Roy told Daring Fireball that the more personalized Siri is delayed. She wrote, So sometime before the end of the year, I guess.

Well, China gets a lot of attention for selling affordable electric vehicles. And unfortunately, Toyota has a reputation for not doing EVs well. So it is pretty noteworthy that Toyota has begun selling a full self-driving electric car, the Bozhi 3X in China on Thursday. And that sells for the equivalent of $20,000 today.

Toyota says it received 10,000 orders within the first hour after launch. Yeah, somebody taking some competition to BYD in their home market there. And it's Toyota. Surprise. And it's Toyota. Not on my bingo card. Yeah.

A study published in the journal JAMA Dermatol found that those red and blue LED devices that claim to reduce acne do in fact reduce acne. The theory is that the light kills the cutie bacterium acnes bacteria and also reduces inflammation. And the study conducted clinical trials on 216 participants with mild to moderate acne.

and found a 45.3% reduction in acne with the greatest improvement coming after 4 to 12 weeks. They also said a combination of red and blue light was the most effective.

And said these kinds of things are a good choice for those who get side effects from other more effective anti-acne medications. So medication is still the better way to defeat it, but maybe it doesn't work well with your stomach or you have other side effects. So this is a good alternative. It's also still best used in conjunction with other doctor recommended therapies. And, you know, in one of the interviews I saw about this, the scientists behind this said, buy a good one. Don't just get the cheapest one you could find on Timu. Like you want actual red and blue LEDs in it.

I actually use this. I had severe or had moderate to severe acne as a kid. So I did go through all the rigmarole of all the different commercialized and non-commercialized medications. Some of the acne medications like, oh, what is it? Accutane are effective, but have a lot of, you know, kind of systemic side effects depending on your

mileage. So yes, as an adult, especially as a 40 year old woman kind of worrying about how my face is going to look in like 10 years, I started using these. So yes, I have one. It's a mask. It makes me look like, look like a villain from like Doctor Who or something. But yes, that's really great to hear that there's science backed evidence. Colloquially, or I guess not colloquially, I think there are studies also that if you're like me and of a certain age,

The red light might also, again, this is just when remembering something that she might've heard. So take it with a grain of salt that red light might also help with collagen production. So keeping your skin a little more elastic and younger, longer, but yes, they work in, please buy a good one. Sometimes the cheap ones are just some LA, like, like it feels like an led strip glued onto like a face mask. Definitely don't do that. Yeah. I, I have seen these in dramas as product placement.

And I've always wondered, like, does that really work? So I was really excited to see this and be like, oh, look at that. It really does work. That's great. And they're chill to use. You just sit around. It does cut. If you have the red, white, blue ones, it does make it hard to see. I've walked around with one and I've bumped into things just because you have red and blue light shining in your face. So don't do that. Sit down, read a book. Yeah, that's a good point. Advice. First hand.

All right, well, a Chinese agentic AI app called Manus got a lot of attention for supposedly being very good at complex tasks.

Maybe it got too much attention as Manus had to apologize for not being able to take on more users. The company has not disclosed which LLMs it is using either, and its ex-account got suspended for violations. So if you hear buzz about Manus, now you know why. And if you never hear it again, this may also explain why. It's good to know.

Uh, the latest beta build of Google's G board for Android has changed the key shape to circles. They're actually kind of like pills if you're doing the four row layout, but they're very circular in the five row layout. It also moves the position of the keys a little. So your muscle memory might be off. Uh, you can turn off keyboarders and settings if it annoys you. This is also a beta, so you could not be in the beta. Uh,

When I could already tell this annoyance. Yes, I just got this surprise. I am on the G board beta, especially for like Android faithful and stuff. Always good to be in the beta. Yes. As soon as I saw this, I had a visceral reaction. WTF. Yes. And I agree. Yes. My mechanical memory, my machine memory. What is, what is the word? Muscle memory. Thank you. Was completely disrupted. I, I hate.

I hate it. Maybe I'm being overdramatic. I hate it. There's apparently another camp of people who are just as mad at the people who hate it for going online and complaining about it. Oh, okay. So there's a little G-board war brewing online right now over this. I'm opinionated, but I'll stay Switzerland or otherwise neutral in this. But personally...

Oh, God, I just this isn't this isn't the beta. So this is a good chance to tell the Google like, yeah, maybe make this something you could turn on if you want. That's like another thing, though. I know that is in the settings. It actually was kind of hard for me to figure out where in the settings it was. Yeah, I still haven't figured it out. So I'm going to try again after the show.

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Those are the essentials for today. Let's dive a little deeper into an ongoing story and follow up on yesterday directly.

Well, previously, yesterday, Tom talked to John Croteau, CEO of Python, about their wearable technology that measures cognitive capability. In part two, we ask him how that works in practice, especially in the world of baseball. So talk to me a little bit about how that works, because I think people can wrap their head around the idea of like, oh, OK, so I can measure endurance or I could measure energy levels. But how do you measure cognition?

So we use an active test methodology. It's called mental chronometry. So if you look it up, do a Google search, you'll see it's been in use for 100 years. It's the way doctors use to assess different parts of your brain. The difference is, and instead of laboratory equipment where you test that, we've put it on the wrist, available 24-7. People can test in the morning, in the afternoon, at night, and they can basically assess. We have currently three protocols. We're working on more.

In 20 seconds, we can detect your mental acuity. Right? So we can detect, are you at baseline? It's, you know, you're normal. Or are you impaired? Are you impaired because of poor sleep? Are you impaired because you might've gotten a hit in the head, a subconcussive hit, for instance? Chronic fatigue, anxiety. You know, anxiety is the natural human reaction to stress. It's natural. Everybody deals with anxiety.

And it's your brain's, you know, beginning to kind of melt down because it can't deal with the stress and uncertainty. And that 20 seconds, am I answering questions or tapping circles? What am I doing? No, actually. So for the Timex device that you referred to, we use an LED. We light up an LED and we say, look, do anything with your hand. And what we're measuring is from the light going in your eye to the neurons passing down past your wrists,

We don't measure the hand movement. We measure your cognitive premotor time extremely precisely and extreme with high repeatability. So we have degrees of sensitivity that no one has ever had. While mental chronometry is like 100 years old, the degree of precision and the insights that we're garnering from that

are totally no fantastic uh and obviously uh there's there's some major leaguers uh using this uh it's being used in medicine uh and health areas uh but i know you've got a new announcement uh regarding prep baseball tell me a little bit about that yeah that's great question so the reason why we picked baseball as i started talking about is uh it's also a data-driven sport i mean sabermetrics

Everybody's used to whether it's exit velocity, spin rate, you know, launch angle. It's a data driven sport and we have a new type of data. And that type of data is highly predictive of your baseball capability. So we we we saw this. We did pilot programs with five D1 college programs last spring.

And we saw kids that ended up first round draft picks. In fact, one of them was slated to go number one. He went number seven, JJ Weatherholt, who's a brand ambassador for us. And his cognitive scores were just off the chart. So it's kind of intuitively obvious. If you can react and make the right decision quickly...

It's indicative that you're going to do pretty well in baseball. Yeah, Weatherholt is who Derek Gould was interviewing on that podcast I mentioned. And he seemed pretty pleased with what he's getting from it. Oh, he crushed it. He, you know, he was a power user last spring. And he, you know, we learned a lot from him, to be honest. And so with PBR, to get back to your question. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So prep baseball is like one of the premier scouting services in the U.S.?

And what we're announcing on Tuesdays is that they're incorporating our test methodology into the scouting services. So now scouts and college recruiters will get access to the players' cognitive scores and be able to track those through the recruiting window. Because there are certain aspects that are kind of innate in your neurocognitive capability, neurophysiological limits. There are other things that you can develop.

And there was a study done 20 years ago in Japan that we basically emulated that shows that with baseball training, you can improve your decision-making ability and we can track that. So that predictive capability, I mean, we had college coaches and major league coaches, you know, using the term Moneyball 2.0. Mm-hmm.

Which is not inaccurate because if you can get a weather holts out of a stack of a lot of elite athletes, that's a big deal in this sport. Yeah. I mean, like you said, this sport has been built on stats from batting average and ERA up to wins above replacement. And this is the next evolution of that sport.

Would you call it the sixth tool? That's exactly the term we're using. In fact, baseball people talk about the mental game. Well, we're quantifying the mental game, right? And when you say mental game, you have good days and bad days. It's not like you're always the same. When you start getting into the methodology and the regimens that coaches are putting in place, you can have a player like we have a brand ambassador, Anthony Alfredo, who's a NASCAR driver.

he realized he can predict when he's getting sick, his cognitive scores drop a day before. You know, in the sport of NASCAR racing, that's a big deal. That's accidents, that's, you know, safety, that's, you know. So it's fairly profound for anybody who uses their brain to be able to track and have actionable data insights into their current, you know, cognitive state. Any given day, any given time,

And a lot of our activity now is actually focused on mitigations. Okay. So the coaches started saying, okay, now we've detected this player is not in a good place. What do we do about it? So we hired some great guys. One guy, Donovan Santus, who just came from the Yankees. He was their sports performance coach, you know, and they have everything from cryo baths to hydration to frankly, we have one, one school that's using music as a mitigation. Hmm.

So there's many things you can do to get back in the zone, but if you can't measure it, you can't determine what works for you. Yeah, you don't know you're out of the zone. Exactly. I mean, you kind of sense you might not be in the zone, but normally you get into the batter's box and strike out. Yeah. And then you know. Then you know. So that's a big capability on any given day or any given prospect.

Uh, is for a game like baseball's profound. Yeah. I imagine, especially in baseball, maybe not so much in, in driving, but, but in baseball, you could, uh, adjust how you use a player based on this information and not just be like, well, he plays or he doesn't play.

Oh, yes. Yeah. So we have, we've totally crushed it. We hired a bunch of actually two active major league coaches and that's exactly what they said. How you attack an at bat against a certain pitcher, you can actually adjust on how you're, how you're going to deal with things knowing that your reaction time isn't where it should be. So those kinds of insights, you know, throughout the course of a game throughout on any given day or any given season,

People, you know, the people we're working with are figuring out ways, they use the term to weaponize the data, right? To make, to get a competitive advantage, you know, proprietary competitive advantage based upon the insights we provide.

This is interesting stuff, John. I could talk to you all day about it. Thank you so much for taking the time. If people want to find out more about Python, where should they go? Python.com. Easy enough. Thanks so much, man. Thank you, sir. If you have a thought about something on the show, but don't know our email address, let me tell you our email address. It is, got a pen? Feedback at DailyTechNewsShow.com.

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He wrote crease free. Hmm. Would need to see the test results. However, that's way in the future. Apple and tennis love this show. Prediction show needed. Random greetings from Ponty. Excellent insights yet again.

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