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Are We About to Enter the First White-Collar Recession? | James van Geelen

2025/4/7
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Demetri Kofinas: 我们正处于一场由财富驱动,可能加速AI采用并迅速重塑劳动力的白领阶层衰退之中。这场衰退将对美国经济和政治产生深远影响,尤其会冲击依赖高技能白领的民主党支持者群体。 James van Geelen: 我同意Demetri的观点。市场是由短期和长期的驱动市场叙事决定的,而叙事在熊市中甚至变得更重要。当前的经济环境中,财富高度集中在少数人手中,一旦股市下跌,这些人的消费支出将迅速减少,从而引发经济衰退。同时,人工智能技术的快速发展将进一步加剧这种衰退,导致大量白领职位被取代。这不仅仅是简单的经济问题,更关乎社会结构和政治格局的变革。

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In Episode 408) of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with James van Geelen, the founder of Citrini Research, which specializes in illuminating and demystifying the transformative “megatrends” poised to shape societies, economies, and the market’s distribution of returns for years to come. James and Demetri spend the first hour of their conversation exploring a series of narratives and investment themes—including Trump’s recent tariff announcement—that have captivated markets and that are likely to be highly determinative of investor returns in the years to come. They discuss the investment implications of a fundamental reorganization of the global economy, along with its supply chains, energy systems, and underlying technological foundations, to say nothing about the changing relationship of government and fiscal policy to the economy and asset markets. In the second hour, Citrini and Kofinas dig deeper into some of the more consequential themes that they identify in the first hour, including:

The wealth-driven white-collar recession that could accelerate the adoption of AI and rapidly reshape the workforce.

The rotation out of U.S. equities as America turns to fiscal austerity and as countries in Europe and Asia engage in massive fiscal stimulus.

The implications for America’s Democratic party base if its supporters increasingly find themselves out of work and under threat by the policies and changes underway in the new economy.

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