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What Will Happen After Putin's Death? May 15th 2025

2025/5/15
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Yuriy: 我意识到俄乌战争不会真正结束,它将长期存在,甚至可能成为一种常态。我们乌克兰人一直期待战后,但现实是,不会有真正的“战后”,只有持续的战争。俄罗斯的整个国家意识形态都建立在摧毁乌克兰的基础上,这种思想已经渗透到整个社会,从总统到普通百姓。俄罗斯的文化、教育都在向国民灌输这种思想,甚至可能取消数理化课程,代之以歌颂为普京而死的课程。在俄罗斯,从小就被灌输乌克兰没有存在权利的思想的一代人已经长大,他们认为消灭乌克兰的战争是理所当然的。即使普京去世,继任者也会在这种文化环境中长大,继续推行这种政策。任何停火或缓和的姿态都会被俄罗斯民众视为背叛,因此,俄罗斯政府永远不会结束这场战争。我们必须认识到,所有的轰炸、酷刑、绑架儿童、占领和恐怖袭击都将是永久性的,至少会持续几代人。

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May 15th 2025

Yuriy shares a profound and unsettling realization about the ongoing war in Ukraine. He discusses how the conflict's end is a distant dream, given Russia's deep-seated ideology of destroying Ukraine, and emphasizes the grim reality that future generations will continue to perceive this war as a normal, permanent state.

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It is 15th of May.

I recently came to a very important realization. It's a heavy one and it doesn't bring any comfort, but it's something we need to acknowledge.

Look, for years we in Ukraine have been living in anticipation over war ending. We've been making plans for the post-war period. Dreaming about what will do once it's over. We've structured our entire existence around this idea of "after the war." But here's the truth, there will be no "after the war." There will be only war. It'll intensify at times when shift into a frozen or semi frozen phase, but it won't end because there is no one to end it.

The entire ideology of modern Russia. Is built around the idea of destroying Ukraine. That idea consumes nearly the entire nation -from the president down to the janitor. There is no alternative vision, no other cultural foundation. Every year Russians publish hundreds of books about the necessity of destroying Ukraine. Their TV, movies, even comic books are nearly all about how great and noble it is to kill Ukrainians. In their schools they dedicate so much time to teaching children that their main purpose in life is to die in the trench fighting Ukrainians that I wouldn't be surprised if, next year, Russia cancels math and chemistry classes altogether and replaces them with lessons on how glorious it is to die for Putin.

What's important to understand is that this has been going on for years. The first generation of children who were raised after Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 -and who were taught from the early years that Ukraine has no right to exist- are now old enough to have children of their own. And they see the war to annihilate Ukraine as completely normal. They grew up with it. Their parents curse at Ukrainians in their kitchens at night, where teachers told them Ukraine must not exist, and on television they saw movies portraying Ukrainians as disgusting cunning, treacherous creatures who desert only death. Of course the children will see the world exactly the same as their parents.

Russia, as country is programmed for war with Ukraine, it has no other purpose. In a few years or in a few decades, Putin will die and someone younger will take his place, but that person will have been raised in the same propaganda shaped by the same so-called cultural environment, one that offers no meaning ever when we need to commit genocide against Ukrainians.

Any ceasefire, any pose in active fighting, even the slight softening in rhetoric will be seen by the Russian public as betrayal. That's why the Russian governments- any Russian government- will never end this war. We need to be ready for that.

We must understand that all of these, the bombings, the torture of prisoners, the abduction of children from the occupied territories, the occupation itself, the terror attacks, the concentration camps. This is all permanent, at least for several generations. If, of course, was generations are even born.