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Wrestling legend Ben Askren on how Fossil Future impacted his thinking

2022/5/26
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Power Hour with Alex Epstein

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Alex Epstein:我推出了新书《化石燃料的未来》,并邀请了摔跤传奇人物本·阿斯克伦作为嘉宾。本读了我的书,并表示这本书让他开始思考化石燃料的好处。我希望通过这次访谈,能够了解如何说服他人,并鼓励大家将这本书推荐给其他人。这本书在亚马逊上的排名进入了前100名,这对于一本关于能源的书来说非常酷。希望大家能从本的创新经验中学习,并关注关于这本书的讨论。 Ben Askren:我从小就喜欢摔跤,并在大学时期开始进行创新。我意识到传统的摔跤风格无法让我获得成功,因为我的运动能力不如其他人。为了找到成功的途径,我开始深入思考摔跤,并从他人身上学习,寻找漏洞。我在摔跤运动中创造了比过去20年甚至更长时间里任何人都多的创新,这归功于我的勤奋和聪明才智。在柔术中,很多人不愿意从新的角度看待问题,他们过于坚持传统。你不能太固执,过于坚持自己的想法。在读《化石燃料的未来》之前,我会把自己描述为对气候变化叙事持怀疑态度的人,我认为我们不会产生那么大的影响,主要是因为所有的预测都失败了。

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Ben Askren, despite not being the most athletic wrestler, achieved dominance through innovation. He combined techniques from various sources, identified gaps in existing approaches, and developed unique strategies, showcasing his deep understanding of wrestling as a puzzle.
  • Askren's success stemmed from his innovative approach to wrestling, combining diverse techniques and identifying gaps in existing strategies.
  • He possessed great cardio, grip strength, and isometric strength, compensating for his lack of speed and explosiveness.
  • He emphasizes the importance of intellectual diligence in wrestling, urging wrestlers to study, analyze, and adapt their techniques.
  • Askren discourages the concept of having a fixed "game" in wrestling, advocating for adaptability and mastery of diverse techniques.

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On this special episode of Power Hour to celebrate Fossil Future's launch week, I'm joined by wrestling legend and former MMA superstar Ben Askren. When Ben expressed interest in Fossil future on Twitter, I sent him an advance copy—which he read in full, and loved.

I asked Ben to come on the show to describe how the book impacted his thinking. I also asked Ben, known as one of the great innovators in modern wrestling, about the keys to his innovativeness—keys that apply to virtually any field.

This episode was both a thrill for me and a little surreal since as a longtime Jiu-Jitsu practitioner I've admired Askren from afar for many years. The fact that he responded to Fossil Future so positively is further confirmation to me that the framework and argument of this book are going to impact a lot of people's thinking for the better.