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Here we are again, ladies and gentlemen. Today it's just Martin and I in the Secular Foxhole podcast.

Number 85. How about that? 85. Yeah, that's a good number. Four years, I think. We're in the four years. Good. Congratulations to us. Yes, it is. Clap, clap. Yeah, and we'll talk about that also, how they could, the listeners and co-hosts, as you are and I am, and the guests and returning guests and others could support our work and we could support them in a trade situation.

That's right. Value for value. So we'll come to that. But you have some new sandwich segment that, again, inspired by Amy Peikoff. Yeah, well, I do have a few things to talk about. Let's see. The first thing I want to mention is I subscribe to an email.

called Notes from the Middle Ground by a gentleman named Damon Linker, L-I-N-K-E-R. And his latest... And what's the meaning of middle ground? It's not the extreme left or the extreme right. But it's not the middle of the road that we know about. Hopefully not. Yeah, hopefully not. I think he's more, he's certainly in the...

liberal tradition of meaning the original classical sense yes right i believe that's true but his latest he he talks about his um his teacher this gentleman named as mark uh i'm gonna call it lila l-i-l-l-a mark lila and he also has a he has an article in the new york review of books uh

But it's available in PDF form on Mr. Lila's website. But anyway, it's called The Tower and the Sewer. And this is about, I'll just read what Damon says about it. It's a wide-ranging review covering several recent books by Patrick Deneen, Saurabh Amari, and Adrian Vermeule. I think that's how you pronounce that gentleman's name.

The essay is a tour de force that places these writers in broad historical context, situates them in the contemporary American right, and combines generosity toward the psychological and spiritual struggles that animate their thinking with nuanced, there's that word, and occasionally severe criticism of it. Now, these gentlemen are all anti-liberal, anti-enlightenment people.

So they're no friends to America. So that I do want to, I will provide the Martin with the link to the PDF in the notes after the show. But that's something I want to alert our listeners to because I think it's well worth reading. And then, yeah,

Here we are. And then I do subscribe to something else called The Unpopulist, which Robert Trusinski. Yeah, he often plugs in his writing and also his YouTube videos. But they have the people behind The Unpopulist have an institute for the study of modern authoritarianism.

And they are having their first conference in, of all places, Washington, D.C. next month, July 11th and 12th. So that's something we should plug, I think. And they want to their topic for that conference is liberalism in the 21st century.

And again, I will provide the links to both the website and I guess to the conference for that in our notes. And let's see what else there was something else. Oh, you had a joke also, because these two things sounds like a good use. Yes, that's right. So here's

Here's the good and this is the bad. And that's the joke. Yeah. And people around the world should pity the American people because their choice for president is someone who's facing a sentence and someone who can't complete a sentence. Yeah.

That is indeed a very sad situation. Yeah. Where did you see that one, that joke? Actually, I... Who read that? I want to give credits to that. We should. It was Greg Gutfeld on Fox. Yeah. Okay. That's also a good one. It's coming from Fox News. That's interesting. That's true. Yes, it is. So...

That's the bad. And now the ringer for the sandwich, the top of the sandwich, this is another kind of a funny little thing. And I can't find the link. I'll have to search for it. But here in America, we have what's called the Bible Belt, which is mostly southern part of the United States. Did it also reach where I was?

I mean, there's... In Ohio also? There's certainly... It's not nearly as severe in the Midwest as it is in the South. More deep down South. Yeah, I think that's true, honestly. And there's what I've called the buckle of the Bible Belt, which is Little Rock, Arkansas. Bill Clinton country. Yes, sadly, from Bill Clinton country. However...

The Secular Student Alliance is having their annual conference in Little Rock, Arkansas. So, go figure. That's a good background, right? I guess it must be. It might be. But I have to find that where I saw that. So, I'll put that in the show notes as well. But that's my new sandwich for this episode.

Yeah, and I'm talking about news that I haven't listened to yet, but it's about a podcast in Swedish called the Security Council. They were talking about deepfakes, distrust and democracy and about artificial intelligence election year and so on.

That's something we could talk about. Tomorrow it's the European Union elections. I voted so-called against the European Union. Okay. But I'm for free trade and so on. But now we are stuck in the European Union. We haven't exited yet as Britain. But then you could then vote for somebody that's a representative of a party that could stop the worst and maybe do something different.

good there and that's a new party that's not represented in the government or in the riksdag as you say in swedish and that's called medborgerlig samling and that's like citizen citizens alliance you could say or something like that and it's a non-socialist party because many of the non-socialist parties like the moderates so-called the conservatives and even the liberal that are more social liberal

have a problem, issue, whatever, on their guidelines and the spectrum where they are. And we know that there's no left or right scale in a way. Trusinski have talked about that also and others. But anyway, so it's interesting if I'm thinking about that and when I want to vote on a certain individual, if I could find.

So that's for tomorrow. And then you said about the joke there in the autumn, it's following that. And so we'll come back to that more. And then definitely to have Robert Krasinski and others returning and talking about it.

So that's something about. And then, yeah, what is a deep fake, for example, we could talk about. And distrust for democracy could in a way be a good thing if it's not populist. And a solution for the future is like a constitutional republic and really understands. I remember, wasn't it Trusinski that had that called something with the republic? It's worth to save or something like that? Oh, yes, absolutely.

In paper form, yeah. That I don't remember, but I know that Benjamin Franklin at the time of the signing had that. Yeah, he answered someone's query. A republic, if you can keep it. Of course, it hasn't been that for more than a century because of democracy, which is the last breath before tyranny, unless you

To turn it around, which anyhow. Yeah. So that's something to come back to also. And then we could, if you're open to listen to some stats. Yes, please. So that's from our podcast host provider. I call it like a sound hotel. And that's an audio hotel. And that's Captivate.fm.

And there it's the listener behavior. And the last 28 days is unique listeners, 129 and 148 downloads. So some individuals have listened more than once. And then you could see it's statistics and you could see trends because we haven't done some. The latest episode is like two weeks ago and that will

I have now downloads for 70 downloads with Brian Searson. So that's great. So I don't look so much in it and you shouldn't be, how to say, paralyzed by it. But it's interesting to see the trend. So around in general, in the long trend, we have like 198 downloads average per every 28 days, like a month. So seven per day.

Of course, in the long run, we want to have 70 and 700, 7,000, et cetera, et cetera. And we see the potential of that, but we will not rush it as the band. No, I love that. But the new podcast app in the latest 28 days, the fountain had 10% of that listening and downloads and like the views you could take. So somebody out there is using a new podcast app

modern podcast app. And a favorite, a newly favorite of mine is truefans.fm.

And we will continue with this work. And then also the founder and originator of that, Sam Sattie, will ask if you could come to the show and talk about the specific thing in the podcasting industry and how to arrange conference and political correctness and other things that could happen out there. And the positive news, what he's doing, really doing great work with this truethrans.fm podcast.

The onboarding for guests, for co-hosts, for listeners will be so smooth. And also you could have this value for value that you get something and you decide yourself how much you want to send as a transaction. So this is really interesting. So we'll cover that in the future. Yeah, great. Again, great that Fountain is a popular app and there are more out there and we will include that in the show notes.

So the stats here, the latest period is United States, of course, is in the top and then Canada and these total are like around 50% of the listeners so far.

And then Germany, Switzerland, United Kingdom, Finland, Australia, Sweden, for some reason, Malaysia and Spain. That's the top 10. I didn't check how many countries we are in total, but we are getting closer and closer to, you know, how many countries there are out there. We are getting there. Well, that's great. That is great.

I want to mention, I know you've got to run. Yeah. So what about TrueFans? TrueFans.fm, yes. Go ahead and talk about that if you like. Yeah, as I did, it's a great application and it's a so-called Progress web app. So it could work. You don't have to download an app. It will work when you create an account, a free account. It will work on your smartphone also.

And I see this positive gamification of it. When you use it, you will get Satoshi's. You could do all kinds of things. And in the future, we have like one guest that I'm thinking about, Warren Fay and others. And of course, James Valiant. And in the future, you will be able to have like audio books there. You will be able to have courses. You could have conferences, all kinds of things. And music artists, you could apply this concept.

value for value model on this also. So this will be really interesting in the future to follow this. Stay tuned and keep in touch regarding that. That's right. Well, that's all I had today, Martin. Again, I know you got to run. Yeah, that's okay. And as a last thing then, and I thank you, Robert Beagley, as a guest, whatever, several times. Thanks for your email. And this is one thing with having a podcast.

The relation you built and grow and so on. Yeah, true. And thanks to Robert, we had a guest that talked about this new technology.

educational, you could say, site and college and school. Right. And also we got support thanks to that podcast interview and conversation. That's right. And we appreciate that very much to get the support. And then you could go to the link that we have on Captivate that's in the podcast player. And we include that in the show notes also.

And I asked here on Twitter, because I saw on the podcastindex.org that they say like this, I will do a quote here. Help us out. None of this is free. If you get any value from this project, or if you just believe in it and want to help us with hosting fees and paying the bills, a donation of any amount would be great.

End quote. And I would say the same for us. And then I tweeted here or posted, as you say now on X, to something called ConShacks. And that's also a service that you could look at when you, after some time, get like from different streams and different podcast apps and whatnot, the donation. Then, of course, you want to thank ConShacks.

the donors but then you have to keep it in you know some kind of in the instrumental panel or dashboard or something like that and conchax is that and you could create a similar page like this captivate support page on conchax and there they could you could set a certain amount in satoshis like do you want to give us a cup of tea or a coffee or whatever your favorite beverage and or a beer or or

Or you decide the amount. So you could have pre-populated buttons. Predetermined choices. Yeah. So it's very simple to do it. But I will wait for their response there. Okay. Thanks, Blair. It was nice to talk to you soon again. And we have...

guests in the pipeline and new things coming up. And yeah, we'll talk soon again. That sounds great, Martin. Thank you. Yeah. Thanks for now. And talk to you soon again. Bye for now. Bye.