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🎤 PODCAST • Unwanted Thoughts ~ My young son was disturbed by a movie sex scene.

2025/3/20
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Kathy discusses her eight-year-old son's distress after seeing a sex scene in a movie, leading to intrusive thoughts. Dr. Kenner advises on handling these thoughts and parenting strategies.
  • Kathy's son saw a sex scene at a sleepover, leading to distressing thoughts.
  • He is having intrusive thoughts involving his parents and their friends.
  • Dr. Kenner discusses the negative effects of placing control outside oneself.
  • Intrusive thoughts are common and do not indicate a serious issue.
  • Dr. Kenner uses the 'pink elephant' example to illustrate thought suppression challenges.

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The Selfish Path to Romance. Download Chapter 1 for free at drkenner.com. Kathy, you have a problem with something that your son saw, a disturbing movie scene.

Yeah, he saw a movie when he was over at a sleepover and he claimed that the couple was having sex. And ever since he saw this movie, which is probably two or three weeks ago now, he apparently is having visions in his mind of like either his dad or myself having sex with somebody. And it's always like a close friend of ours or something.

That's embarrassing. Yeah, very. Yeah. So first, how old is he? He's eight years old. The first thing that strikes me is how good that he's open with you. He's very open. And actually, the first time he told us about it, he was crying because he knew that it was the wrong thing to be thinking about and stuff. Yeah. And my advice to him was just to pray and ask God to not give him these thoughts and stuff. And...

He did that, but it's like every single day he's bringing this up to me. Yeah. Okay. The problem with it, tell me what you think the problem might be with praying and asking, placing the, what in psychology is called the locus of control outside of himself, saying that God will change it or something outside of him will change it. Right. Right.

It makes him feel more powerless, actually. Okay. As opposed to saying, you know, we all have thoughts like, we all have occasional thoughts that we don't like. And instead of telling him, I know you're not doing this, he's asking you, how do I get rid of these thoughts?

If he treats them as, oh my God, here are those awful thoughts again. I'm having those images in my mind or I'm picturing mom and dad or mom with, you know, dad's best friend or something. Exactly, exactly. Which is embarrassing. But you can say...

honey, that can happen all the time. It's not a big deal. That tends to make it feel like it's not that abnormal for him because people have thoughts all the time and what are called intrusive thoughts and healthy people have intrusive thoughts.

Healthy people do. What happens when you get like an obsessive compulsive disorder is a person, let's say that a good parent is angry with her kid and she walks in and I'm going to make this very low key and she sees a book and she pictures herself hitting her kid with a book and she's never hit her kid. And she just says, oh my God, oh my God, what if I ever did that?

that could be the beginning of an anxiety disorder. Instead of saying, oh, I know I would never do that. It's just a mood that I'm in. If she treats it as more of a matter-of-fact situation, she doesn't underscore and highlight it and bold it in her mind as something she has to run away from. For example, let's say that when you tell your mind, don't think about X,

And one of the examples that I use often is don't think about, I think I heard this example once, a pink elephant like Dumbo floating in the air. So I don't want you to think about Dumbo at all for the next 10 seconds. Okay, Kathy? Don't think about it. Okay. Great. I see your point there. Okay. Are you already thinking about it? Right. It's impossible not to think about the pink elephant. Any idea why? Okay.

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Find The Selfish Path to Romance by Drs. Ellen Kenner and Edwin Locke on Amazon or at SelfishRomance.com. That's The Selfish Path to Romance on Amazon or SelfishRomance.com. Great. I see your point there. Okay. Are you already thinking about it? Right. It's impossible not to think about the pink elephant. Any idea why? Why? Why is that? Why do we do that?

Listen to me give myself the command. If you had told me, Kathy, Ellen, don't think about a pink elephant, I'm saying, okay, I really want to obey Kathy. You know, she's a good friend, and I want to obey her. So what is it that, what's the instruction she gave me? She told me, don't think of, oh, my God, there it is again. Because every time I give myself the instruction, don't think of the pink elephant, I'm

I paint the picture in my mind of a pink elephant. Right. So a don't command, don't think of something actually makes you think of it more and then you don't know how to get rid of it. And praying won't help. Okay. You know, praying is...

It makes the person even feel that less powerless because, I mean, that more powerless. Right. So the best thing to do is to just say, you know, you've had some fleeting thoughts and, you know, I've had that too. I've had that happen. But I would give him a different type of example.

For example, I would give my kid an example of, you know, when I was a kid, this is true, I saw dogs and cats and I was afraid of them. I was a little tight and dogs can be bigger than me, you know. And I remember we didn't have dogs or cats in our household and I remember having nightmares of dogs and cats chasing me.

And I didn't know how to get rid of those nightmares. And I just had to not make a big deal about them. And then they started to fade. Occasionally I'd have them, but I'd say, okay, big deal. You know, it's not a big deal. And that may help him see that it's not a big problem. The fact that it's sexual makes it real heightened. I know. You know, there's a second issue, which is that I was a stickler with my kids about

I did not want them to see things that gave them the wrong view of the world before they were ready to cope with it. Right. And when they were really young, I thought it was very important for them to watch the news.

You know, I wanted educated kids. And I turned on the news. And what do you see at the beginning of every news broadcast? Car accident. How many people killed or something blows up or a fire. And I thought, what am I introducing them to? There's so much good news in the world. But in the news business they have, if it bleeds, it leads. The lead story is going to be the bloodiest story. Right. So I stopped showing my kids the news.

And with movies, I would show them really good movies, but my husband and I would go through and we'd cut out the violent scenes. I would cut out the sexual scenes until they got a little older, and then I cut out the bad sexual scenes. But if there was a very nice romantic one as they were getting older, you know, hugging and kissing, maybe not explicit sex, but I wanted that.

I wanted them to see examples of good parents having good, people having good relationships. So I was selective. And my daughter even remembers at a Girl Scout function where I came in front of her, I came in front of the TV with a big sheet and covered the scenes I didn't want the kids to see. Oh, my God.

She just remembers this scene. It was a cute movie, but I remember it had a couple of scenes in it that were, they just had a bad guy in it. And so, you know, I went in and covered it. So I would find out who the parents are. I would call and ask, do you know what they saw? What movie? Well, he told me it was the movie Failure to Launch.

Okay, I never saw it. I haven't seen it either, but I, you know, and really, I don't think he knows what sex is. I think, he's told me that he thinks that it's a couple laying down in bed and kissing a lot. Oh, that's,

that's sweet and I hope it was a good scene. As a parent, as much as painful as it might be, I would want to see the movie that tortured my kid in private without letting him, you know, just privately with your hubby maybe too so you can get his context because it may have been nothing bad that he saw or it may have been. Well, that's what I'm thinking. I don't think it's a dirty movie or anything. Wonderful. Then you can help him put it in context and if all he pictures is you hugging the, you know, one of your husband's buddy, just say, oh yeah, we like,

we like each other. You know, then it's a light touch. It's not explicit sex. When they get older, there are books by Peter Maylee, M-A-Y-L-E. I think they're on my website, drkenner.com, which talks about sex and it doesn't, it's done in a very tasteful way. Is it a book, did you say? Yeah, they're kids' books. But when he gets to about the puberty age, those are good books to introduce kids to sex. But you want to read it first to make sure you're at home with them.

And you want to find the right age to introduce it to. And that was Dr. Peter Maylee, M-A-Y-L-E? I don't think it's Dr. Peter M-A-Y-L-E. Right, but it's on my website, too. Okay, and that's for more puberty age. Yeah. Thank you so much for your call. Yes, thank you very much. Oh, you're welcome. And here's a little more from Dr. Kenner. Why don't you stop drinking? Anybody can be a drunk. Anybody can be a non-drunk.

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