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Coming soon: Martin Wolf and Paul Krugman unleashed

2025/6/4
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Martin Wolf: 我认为当前全球经济面临诸多挑战,其中最紧迫的是由特朗普政府引发的贸易战。这场贸易战不仅影响了美国自身的经济,也对全球贸易体系造成了冲击。我们需要深入探讨这场贸易战的根源、影响以及可能的解决方案。此外,我还认为有必要从政治经济学的角度来分析这些问题,理解政治因素如何影响经济决策,以及经济发展如何反过来塑造政治格局。我希望能够和Paul一起探讨这些复杂的问题,为听众提供更全面的视角。 Paul Krugman: 我非常同意Martin的观点。特朗普政府的政策给全球经济带来了巨大的不确定性。一个本应是世界上最成功的经济体,却选择了一个似乎想要破坏它的领导人,这本身就是一个值得深思的问题。我担心特朗普政府的保护主义政策会加剧全球贸易紧张局势,并最终损害所有国家的利益。此外,我也对欧洲的经济表现感到担忧,它在很多方面都未能充分发挥其潜力。当然,我们也不能忽视人工智能等新兴技术对经济的潜在影响,尽管当前这些问题似乎都被特朗普政府的政策所掩盖。

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I'm Martin Wolf, the Financial Times Chief Economics Commentator. And I'm Paul Krugman, Professor at the City University of New York and, I guess, self-employed online pundit. In six episodes to run throughout June and early July, we'll be discussing the economic events reshaping our world. And it's going to be interesting doing this together because, well, we've known each other, according to my calculations, around 40 years.

So what topics would you like to discuss? I mean, obviously, it doesn't look like the trade war and all of that is going to be over anytime soon. And we need to talk about that. Are you prepared to think a little about the political economy of this?

How can it be that what is on the face of it, the most successful economy in the world, has decided to elect somebody who intends to blow it up? I'm friends with some science fiction writers, people who write sort of near future dystopian stuff. And they're very upset because they feel that they're being put out of a job because they're

What's actually happening is making everything that they wrote look mild by comparison with the reality. I mean, if it weren't for Donald Trump,

We would be talking a lot about how do we get China to not be such a disruptive player in the world economy. I'd like to talk about Europe and why is it lacking? Almost for consolation, I've been doing some work on AI and what it might mean. These are all things that if it weren't for that guy in the White House, would all be at the top of our conversation and really we should be talking about it.

Well, I actually think those are very much the issues we might want to discuss. I think we have enough subjects, don't we? Should be fun. I'm looking forward immensely to our conversations. I'm sure I'll learn a lot. And I'm sure that our listeners will too. And they will be able to listen on the FT's Economic Show starting in early June and available for free wherever they get their podcasts. I think that's been rather good. Okay.

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