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Coming soon: The Wolf-Krugman Exchange

2025/6/4
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Martin Wolf: 我认为当前世界经济面临诸多挑战,其中最紧迫的是由美国前总统特朗普发起的贸易战,这场贸易战不仅对全球贸易体系造成了冲击,也深刻影响了各国的政治经济关系。我们需要深入探讨贸易战的根源、影响以及可能的解决方案。此外,一个值得关注的现象是,作为全球经济最成功的国家,美国却选择了一位似乎有意破坏其经济基础的领导人,这背后反映了更深层次的社会和政治问题。我对此感到困惑,并希望能够理解这种现象背后的原因。同时,我也认为,在讨论世界经济时,我们不能忽视中国在全球经济中的角色。我们需要思考如何引导中国在全球经济中发挥更积极的作用,避免其采取具有破坏性的行为。 Paul Krugman: 我对欧洲经济的现状感到担忧,欧洲在经济发展方面似乎缺乏活力,未能充分发挥其潜力。我希望能够探讨欧洲经济面临的结构性问题,以及可能的改革方向。此外,我对人工智能(AI)的发展及其对经济和社会的影响非常感兴趣。尽管当前世界面临诸多挑战,但AI作为一种新兴技术,有望为经济发展带来新的机遇。我希望能够深入研究AI在医疗、制造、金融等领域的应用前景,以及可能带来的伦理和社会问题。我认为,在关注当前危机的同时,我们也应该对未来的发展趋势保持关注,为未来的发展做好准备。

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I'm Martin Wolf, the Financial Times Chief Economics Commentator. And I'm Paul Krugman, Professor at the City University of New York and, I guess, self-employed online pundit. In six episodes to run throughout June and early July, we'll be discussing the economic events reshaping our world. And it's going to be interesting doing this together because, well, we've known each other, according to my calculations, around 40 years.

So what topics would you like to discuss? I mean, obviously, it doesn't look like the trade war and all of that is going to be over anytime soon. And we need to talk about that. Are you prepared to think a little about the political economy of this?

How can it be that what is on the face of it, the most successful economy in the world, has decided to elect somebody who intends to blow it up? I'm friends with some science fiction writers, people who write sort of near future dystopian stuff. And they're very upset because they feel that they're being put out of a job because they're

What's actually happening is making everything that they wrote look mild by comparison with the reality. I mean, if it weren't for Donald Trump,

We would be talking a lot about how do we get China to not be such a disruptive player in the world economy. I'd like to talk about Europe and why is it lacking. Almost for consolation, I've been doing some work on AI and what it might mean. These are all things that if it weren't for that guy in the White House, would all be at the top of our conversation and really we should be talking about it.

Well, I actually think those are very much the issues we might want to discuss. I think we have enough subjects, don't we? Should be fun. I'm looking forward immensely to our conversations. I'm sure I'll learn a lot. And I'm sure that our listeners will too. And they will be able to listen on the FT's Economic Show starting in early June and available for free wherever they get their podcasts. I think that's been rather good. Okay.

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