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You are listening to A Psychic Story, a podcast that shares behind-the-scenes insights of people who lead supernatural lives among the ordinary. And I'm your host, Nicole Bigley. Join me every Wednesday as I dispel the myths behind magic and lore. Welcome to A Psychic Story. Mysticism Demystified.
Hi, psychic listeners. For this episode of A Psychic Story, we have back Courtney Orlando. So if you missed the episode that we had with her last week, I suggest you go back to that one because you're not going to want to miss it. We have a very detailed and amazing conversation about many things, including her story and how she got to where she is today. And where we're picking up right now is to talk more about psychic stories.
and intuitive abilities, what they are like and how she experiences them, and dive in a little bit deeper to nodal point therapy. So welcome back to A Psychic Story, Courtney. Hi, thank you, Nicole. I'm glad to be back. Yes, and thanks for staying on so we could continue this part two of the conversation.
So where we left off is we got deep and detailed into the different energy bodies. And as I mentioned, we were discussing the interconnectedness of it all. And the part we weren't able to talk about was when you mentioned that your abilities really came back online after all of those other experiences that you were having. And I thought if it would be helpful, maybe if you don't mind sharing a
how you experience psychic intuitive abilities, intuition, whatever you want to call it, what that's like for you and maybe walk people through maybe some ways that they're experiencing it on their end. Absolutely. So, you know, we got to the part, I think that we said a little bit, but I'll like backtrack, but go forward from there because this was like life changing. Right. So I'm in that dark night of the soul. And just to put it
Just to put it lightly, I always feel like, oh my God, this doesn't even sound real when I say it. But in that, it was like a three-year period. In that year period, I contributed to it as well. I always say there was the things that were taken from me, but there was the things I gave away. So when I tell you that I broke down on every level, I literally was put on end-of-life care and then also...
Then got off it, but then still went through three, well, two near-death experiences and one where I out and out died. You know, I lost my house. I lost my children. I have everything back now. But like at the time, I just, I went from this very healthy person to like in a three-year period of time.
from the end of December 2015 to the beginning of 2019. I mean, when I'm talking about like, and I had my degrees and everything like that, and I was very successful in my nursing career. I lost it all. I wasn't working. I was disabled. I was sick. I went homeless at one point. It was honestly a nightmare. I lost my home, my cars, everything.
And you think like, okay, it was horrible. And I'm not gonna, you know, I do a lot, been in years and years of trauma therapy since. But I have to tell you something. It helped me so much in that time where I was coming into like this relationship with self. And this has everything to do with intuition. And my relationship with the all that is. And this really like accepting myself that I...
I've always been a person that just didn't meet. Like, I just don't, I don't fit in the box. I never have.
And that can make you feel really disconnected if you're not at peace with that, right? You feel strange. You feel a little bit different. You feel like you don't belong. But then in some ways, people can be like, oh, that's awesome. But then feel like they want to just take all that. But then like, where does that look like? And so for me, part of my intuition and developing a huge part of it was to come into not only like,
was to come into whole body health. So I really did walk the walk of addressing my chronic pain. I walked the walk of addressing
where my health had went to complete disaster, you know, with conditions that were supposed to end my life. You know, and I know that everybody doesn't get to have my story where I come into thriving health, but like, no, I am going to say that that pain was a gift. Actually, I am. I don't enjoy it. I don't want to repeat it, but it was a gift to me. And that's where I found my power. I
You know, when I could get really present with those parts of me and say, I'm going to go ahead and I want to come into my aliveness. I have spent most of my life, you know, at that point it was 40 something years of my life in trying to mute down who I was, to apologize even for my very existence.
to pray out certain parts of me. You know, the concept, I don't care what religion you're in, it happens. It's a patriarchal imprint of like less of me, more of you, right? Less ego, more of this. No, we're here to be human. We want a balanced ego, right? And we want a balanced spirit and we want to be in harmony. And sometimes finding that balance is
But when you do find that harmonic balance, which is my specialty in patterns, right? And the work that I do in nodal point, you're learning about where you've got to go to the imbalance to invite the balance. It will tell you everything you need to know to get to your balance. And then you've got to practice it.
And I always say fail. Fail and have a great relationship with failing because you're just gonna fail forward. You know, people fail and they go, "Oh, that's it, I'm not good at it." No, you just, you stopped it right there. So somebody says, "I'm not intuitive like you." No, you're not, you're intuitive like you. You know, there's no you, there's no Nicole Bigley on the planet with your experiences both in this lifetime, your body, your makeup, your soul,
right, all your astrological makeup in tune with that, you are such this unique imprint and you fit into the puzzle of the collective, right? We complement each other in a way, right? If we can lean into that. And so like, even with the part where it's like, no, somebody might not
be congruent or I might not be matching their vibration and that's not like a you don't match my vibration No, it's just like hey, you might have not accessed that yet Or maybe you're just it's different or I'm activating you in a way so maybe right now you can either sit with that activation and we can walk through that together and see where that trigger is and we can down regulate some of that or
You can switch over and maybe it's not that you're a bad person and I can't take it personal. Maybe it's not about me, right? It's about something they're experiencing and that something in me is riling up in them. If we can recognize that even in our own self and just tend to ourselves with compassion, right? Sometimes that compassion is I've got to step back from you. And sometimes that compassion is I'm going to lean right in.
Right. And sometimes you're going to make the mistake, but it doesn't mean that's the mistake every time because you're getting with yourself moment by moment. So I think like coming into that intuition, me doing that work, coming out of, you know, all of the injury from that car accident and I died and it was on life support for for like almost a month.
I had a major brain bleed. I broke half my body, right? Not only that, I wasn't living my best life at that time. I had gotten addicted to opiates at that time and dependent on them. And I was battling all of that at that time. Hence where I actually birthed my passion for non-pharmacological pain management and how holistic that came. But that was one of my wax on, wax off Mr. Miyagi. I was like,
That's really how you did it? That's how we were doing this? And when I realized that and it had become a passion, the odd thing was in my nursing career before all that happened, I happened, even though I was mostly in critical care and then some with disabilities, working with folks with disabilities, I had done my specialty in a two-year fellowship of pain and palliative care.
like having no idea that I'd actually have to walk through that myself, you know, and that's not most people's lineup. Okay. That was just happened to be Courtney Orlando's experience in the way that, because I know that my guides in higher power know the way I work. And
I'd like to argue with them about it, that it wasn't necessary. But when I look back, I'm like, eh, might be right. I think it was. I think it was. And so when I was doing that, what was coming on board was I told you I had decided at that point to not box myself in, to not box in the all that is and go into that relational body, rediscover with myself and the all that is.
And that's also, and I think after the car accident, by the way, that's when all like my clarity, I told you it came back with a fury, right? And so it was like I was just discovering myself. I was started to meditate in that I was doing a lot of holistic care for myself and integrative medicine for myself. So I was eating better. I was decreasing my inflammation. I was downregulating my stress. I was doing meditation. I was doing my trauma therapy, um,
You know, I was doing support groups, so forth and so on. And then NET and Reiki. And that's when I had come into actually Reiki, which I know is similar to your story. Reiki changed my world because, first of all, it really opened my channels in such a clear way. Secondly, you know what it did?
It gave me the tools that I never had and I had never been taught previously about how energy works. So like intention setting and energy boundaries and like, oh my God, it turns out half this crap isn't even mine. I just have an over sympathetic response.
And because my trauma wasn't downregulated in my stress, I was having like, I was both intuitive and hypervigilant. But when I could get my hypervigilance down, which is by the way, often mistaken for people being like, I'm psychic. They might be, but if it's crossing over with your hypervigilance, there's going to be an issue. I want to talk about that in a second. I think for me, on my path, taking that whole person approach to bring in that congruence is
And that harmony was essential. And then learning...
what tools belong to where and like where did I use them, right? Like I'm not going to use a car tool on a bike. You know what I mean? And that's what some of us are trying to do. Like an analogy. And so like also understanding like what modalities do what and why something might be incomplete at clearing your channel, I think is also essential. So real quick, do you think that a couple things is,
is that when I tell people or they ask me about energy healing modalities, I say Reiki isn't necessarily for everyone, but it is for everyone because my guides and angels and my higher self are saying and still have been for years now, it is really life force energy, source energy. It's healing energy,
Somebody put a title and a name on it and said, okay, this is how you channel or become attuned to Reiki. And I'm not dismissing that in any way because I love it. I went that path. But there's also laying on of hands. There's understanding breath work. And you raise a really good point in that.
For me, it was putting something finer and a framework together when it comes to understanding how energy works and being able to experience it at a certain level that's not so complex.
programmable and in society in the logical way of our brains working. Oh my God. Yeah. And so that's how I kind of think of Reiki is if you take Reiki and strip that out or any sort of energy healing modality to some extent, it is life force source energy and healing and you understanding how we are all connected to it and can access it. Absolutely. And that, and I think like, you know, some people want,
It gets demonized, you know, by which is which which is sad. I feel like a lot of well, it's not just the Christian church. A lot of religions will demonize certain things or say think it's because of a misunderstanding. OK, where you're really just.
you know, they'll have some experience and maybe one Reiki practitioner was super spiritual or did combined it, which is nothing wrong with that. Like for me, I know it gets combined a lot, but also I'm not attached to that because I don't know who's, I'm not there for me. So I always say like, nothing's coming through that's not congruent with your own energy field and your higher power that's for your higher good. So like,
it just defies that dogmatic positioning. And you're right. Like it's absolutely, it's a life force energy. It's just energy. And it's how do we work with that energy body? And I'm going to tell you,
Nicole, I believe it is for everybody. And I'll say that even from a medical perspective. Okay. Because... Please, disagree with me. I mean that what I'm trying to do is not fit it for everyone if it's not in their framework. But yeah. What I mean is this, okay? Right. You're right. You're right. Because laying on of hands, I like that you brought that up, is still intention. It's the exact same thing. Behind energy. Yeah. Okay? Yeah.
Do I think there's some variability? And you know, it's funny. Okay. So my dad, when he was passing away, he had gotten back a part of like the evangelical aspect of the Catholic church. And that worked for him. He was doing great with it. It was really helping him a lot and his connectedness. But like he had kind of went into the realm of like, oh, yeah,
Reiki is evil and it's from the East. And that means it's from these other gods and stuff like that. And I'd be like, daddy, that's, you know, that's not necessarily, I understand why you're being told that and where that misconception is coming from, but that's not entirely true. And then like,
I had this download and I was talking to actually his guides and tapping in because we were checking in with his energy body when he was passing if he would actually receive it or not and if it was okay. Because you don't ever, I'm never just going to send it. There's always going to be a permission there. And when I was talking to the angels and the guides at that point, they said pretty, actually, I'm going to agree with you because what they said was,
it's pretty much synonymous. They said to me, they were like, it's energy and there's an intention behind it. Now, are there different techniques? Yes. Yeah, that's where it differs within energy modalities. Sure. There's different techniques and there are different things that you can do. And I think that it's kind of like saying that like prayer would... Well, sometimes it does, but not always. Like
replace like a surgery that you might actually need, right? Like where I feel like Reiki does have a component that's very similar to intentional and working with the energy, but there's actually a medicine component to it that's working within that quantum field and across the energy bodies, which is exactly the reason why there was a study done at Bryn Mawr Hospital. Now I was coincidentally, Mr. Miyagi,
This was part of it. I was in the pain and palliative fellowship down at Bryn Mawr Hospital in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania. And at that time, one of the, a couple of members of our teachers in the group, they were doing a study, which is one of the best well-published nursing studies today on Reiki and some of the evidence behind it.
And they were doing it on orthopedic patients before and after knee surgeries. And the results were absolutely phenomenal. I'm talking about like if the patient came in and they agreed, like some of them didn't want it and some of them did. And they said, yeah. And they actually had a Reiki, like a dummy Reiki master, meaning they weren't really. And then they had a real Reiki master. Let me tell you something.
So that gave more than just, oh, we had the intention. Because when it was a real Reiki master, they only used Reiki masters in that study, the results were, they were not even arguable. Wow. They cut down healing. I don't want to misquote it, but let me tell you, it was over 50%.
people left and half the time they didn't need or they needed very minimal pain medication. The healing amplification was up. Okay, this is why you see it getting used a lot on oncology units, especially for pediatric oncology. Go into a pediatric oncology unit, talk to some of the Reiki masters. Those families will tell you some stories about how their red blood cells changed and how they were able to get a certain way. Did it
Was there a time and a place? It can help the body receive the medicine. So it doesn't, sometimes it makes you not need the medicine. And other times it helps the body to receive and utilize the medicine that's coming into it. Hmm.
And so, um, I like that I can bring that, that healthcare medical lens to the science as well behind it, because I don't take those things lightly on the ethical note. Right. Like I'm all about intuition. I also love logic, right? Like I call that the, I call it the caduceus concept of medicine. Um,
which I will one day write about, hopefully more sooner than later. And when you had emailed that, I said, we're going to have to have a larger conversation about that later because I was looking it up online and I even told Jesse, I was like, let's start here and then pick that one up later because I could see the energy behind it and your intention. That's like a big, deep topic. It really is. But just to suffice it to say without going deeper,
It's basically the two snakes going up, you know, to the wings that everybody knows that this is, this ends up in the, in the mythos of medicine. But basically one snake is logic and science. And the other one is intuition and art. That's what they represent. And so we talk about this intuition and I can't not talk about intuition without its balancing counterpart.
Because what happens is, I feel I've heard you talk and I think, oh, she's so good. She's grounding that down. I hear you like just with access to your wisdom, how like, tell me if I'm wrong, but I feel like you know the, you understand the importance of like, okay, this is what we got. But then what are some practical tips for what that might look like in your organic day-to-day life?
Mm-hmm. Right? Like, how are we grounding that down? And then where do they want me to not and just be open to the unfolding? Yes. That in and of itself is an art form. Well, thanks. Well, and I try and have some of the practicality come through because there are a lot of people out there that give you kind of word salad and they talk about terminology and things or, and again, this is not against them necessarily, although I,
you shouldn't have to go to someone so many times or pay them so much money. There should be practical steps and tips and things. I believe it goes back to the belief versus thoughts thing that people should be able to, to be empowered within it. And I will also quickly, I want to go back to the ethics portion of this too, is that I love that you have your registered nurse, you have the medical background and everything because it was really early on through my Reiki that
and I believe I spoke with Julie Ryan about this and a couple others on the podcast. I didn't realize when I would work on people that I was, it kind of looks to me in my mind's eye, my clairvoyance, um,
where I can see energy spots on people or, and I do have people come to me and ask me about their medical background. I'm not a doctor. I don't know that. And it's also hard for me to verbalize what I'm seeing. So I don't like to get into that because that is not my expertise, but what I find and what you said so beautifully, and especially with that study with Reiki as a Reiki master myself, I
I know then, is this emotional? Is it mental? Is it physical? Is it a combination? How does that impact the spiritual or that etheric and ethereal? Yeah. And then I at least know where to start then when it comes to helping that energy move, like a surgery type of thing. No, it's totally true because...
even if like, say you have all the, what if that energy body on that certain pattern line in the root cause? So I do a lot of root cause medicine. So like,
When we're looking at that, I do it in energy medicine and I do it intuitively and I do it also in my integrative health science. So I'm actually an advanced practice nurse in integrative health science and in our, and so it, I have graduate level, postgraduate level training that would kind of, people always get confused with nurses like NP and beyond. We're all kind of like there, it's just a different licensing in there. But either way, right? Guess what?
When I am doing medical intuition or even when I'm doing my Reiki, I have to say ethically, I understand my background and in this room, it is not within my scope of practice to diagnose you. I am going to tell you what I see and let's see what the roots of it and where the patterning is impacted.
And that's where I stop. Yeah, well, that's, you know what? But it's knowing your scope of practice because for me, luckily, because I have both in my background, I know where to refer them in medicine or I can give them the language. Like I'll say, okay, this is something, this part I can do. Like I can do a lot through integrative mind-body medicine, non-pharmacological techniques, a lot. But you can't always, the reality is you can't always do everything. And a lot of times I need this stuff substantiated
or I like we want to we want to look at it or they know it, but there's some more information. So I am very grateful for my background in health care and medicine because and for my advanced practice in those areas and advanced practice certifications at graduate level through Jefferson University. Thank you to them because they're amazing teachers who are very
prominent and really do take the entire psychosocial, spiritual lens of like approaching individuals because they understand that in integrative medicine would help me bridge my worlds. But like then I can say, hey, okay, let's look at what we might need here. Because I, my
I think we've said this over and over again, but this isn't about stroking my ego. Yes, I am a detailed, precision-based medium with all the clairs, which I know we wanted to talk about a little bit. Okay. And when we've got to ground it down and there's a real medical condition going here, I'm not willing to put your life on the line. Am I?
okay, because I'm attached to being right, let's substantiate that. Let me see and correlate it with your symptoms. Now let me help you get the right help if I need to move you into something that requires a greater scope of practice than I can give you. And I hope that, I mean, I see it happening more and more, but when I did this six years ago, there were very few that I could find, psychiatrists, therapists, psychologists. Yeah.
doctors, nurses that were open or that were okay with being open about the intuition and where everything worked. And more and more you're seeing that. And even the fact that you have to go to get your blood work drawn from some other lab and have it sent to Germany or have it sent somewhere to a center where people, especially when it comes to women's health issues-
They can read the blood work in different ways. So I'm all for that. And I don't want to get like too far down a rabbit hole with this, but ultimately, so it sounds like you being able, so nodal point therapy is being able to holistically look at someone on the energetic sense or the energetic bodies and then being able to figure out what modality works.
they need when it comes to that? Or how would you... Well, with nodal point therapy, that's a very... It's its own unique. So as you...
I know the listeners don't know. So I have a variety of services, right? So I have my services like that are NET, that's neuroemotional technique, which is mind, body, medicine. I've got medical intuition, which if I'm just doing medical intuition, that's where we're trying to get into like root and what else are the energy bodies around that. And then what else we have to do. There's straight mediumship, right? So sometimes I'm not doing any medicals. I'm just doing mediumship. And, um,
the Reiki and then non-pharmacological pain management that I also actually have. And then my integrative nutrition. So like I'm able to like either separate and or combine, right? And is that what nodal point therapy is then? So what nodal point is, is it is, it's based on what's called harmonic balancing. And so, um,
nodal points, the concept is actually based on a physics concept of harmonics. Like how is harmonics, how does harmony actually brought into any pattern line, right? Where is it? And so I actually use a physics-based concept, but I'm applying that concept to an energy body. So in essence,
to not make it too complicated, just think of it this way. For every, in order to get harmony, right, there's a standing wave line. And so nodal point indicates that there is basically, if you have that standing wave line, that you're,
there are two identical waves going in opposite directions at the same time, and that creates that standing wave line. I say welcome to being human or on Earth, standing wave line. And I view the two identical bodies, energy bodies going in opposite directions as the ego and the soul.
Okay. And so like just looking at that. And so sometimes a node point on a standing wave line is basically your point of most negative amplitude, like where it hits. And
or like the deepest impact. Now that doesn't mean negative. Like you don't think of a battery, right? As like the negative charge is bad, right? It's just a negative charge. It can be in the human experience or perceived that way, but it hits something. And what's more important is if on the identical one going in the other way, there is, you need an anti-node,
for every node point. And that's the most, that's the point of positive amplitude on that. So that in essence, in the physics world creates that. Okay. Okay. That's really complex, but what's happening? How are you doing it? Whoa. I'm visualizing it just for people.
because audio, I do see a video. So she's showing me the way. Yeah, like it's like, right. So it's like, I actually have a packet where I go into teaching when I'm going to do a session just so they understand what's going on. And so to me, it's not about getting rid of the ego. This is a something, this is,
a modality that is basically going to identify your most interruptive pattern, right? That has, and they always know. Oh my God, do they always know. So I'm going to identify your most interruptive patterning in your life that has manifested through almost all the energy bodies, right?
And at that point, I'm going to be able to identify that I'm mixing both evidence-based mind-body medicine with intuitive processes. Okay, so I'm bringing in that caduceus concept that I talk about. And I'm basically using my mediumship, my clears, because I have clear audience, so I can hear. I have clairvoyance. I can see. Those are my two strongest points.
I'm going to be honest with you. I have fine, clear sentience. I just don't love it. I'm always like, show it to me.
The guides are working with me like, yeah, we're just going to make you feel this one out. And what's clairsentience for people that aren't familiar? Because I think most people are familiar with the auditory and the visual, but not the sentience. So the clairsentience is the feeling. So they give you like, they'll make me feel what is the person is feeling or the other person felt. And I have to like... That's not my favorite one either. No, I'm always like, well, let me just explain it.
It didn't happen until about two years ago. And when it did, I thought I was dying. Oh my God. Wait, can we pause right there and say this? People need to know that with intuition, right? Like I was very intuitive to begin with. We know this. Then I came into peace. Then I was utilizing it. What I didn't expect to happen was when I started doing this full time and I opened my practice,
it got so strong and it keeps getting stronger. Like it's a muscle. This is what I talk about all the time. I'll tell you what happened to me, you'll laugh, but I want you to finish your story. No, I totally want to hear because I'm glad like I can see your face like, yup, you know it too. Because even as, that's why I think it's important, even as a medium or an intuitive, like
Please don't box yourself in. You know, I have a really, one of my also best friends, myself,
Natalie Levin and Katie Higley do a lot of work together. Like we collaborate a lot and do soul signatures and then we do some teaching together. And Katie and I had formulated something called Reiki Beyond the Matrix because of all the downloads and all the upgrades that have come with energy medicine. I don't want to teach, you know, 1930s energy medicine in 2025. I'm not saying I'm not down with the premise of it. Like you, I love...
I love USUI, the foundation of USUI Reiki, but it's changed and there's so much more. And like our phones are upgrading, we've got no problem upgrading those every few months. What did I say in the last episode about what we have iOS systems for real?
And we're accessing different parts of our consciousness development and we're moving through and different gifting is getting access during that time. So it's like, even when I do nodal point therapy, Nicole, I have to not box it in because in my first so many years, I was like, okay, we're just doing the pattern line of this lifetime. Well, let me tell you something.
It is merged into parallel, past pattern lives. And you know what? I could stay in my own way or I could just choose to say this part is fine and it probably would work nicely. But why do I want to? I'm not going backwards. I said I wouldn't box myself in.
And I wouldn't box the all that is in. Well, I told myself, I would, I told my guides and angels I wanted to be boxed in. Oh, are you going to, are you going to, are you going to say slow that down? Yeah. Yeah. Well, so real quick, uh, well, I hope this is quick cause I want to get back to the other Claire's and then we, and then we do need to wrap it up on this to get to Patreon. But is that,
So when I was writing the book, looking for angels, and I was talking to my guides and angels and saying, help me explain, because I didn't really call them Claire's. It was more they showed me the matching of just like you can see physically, you can hear physically, you can smell physically. All those things, you have a mirror to that spiritual aspect or that ethereal or your physical, not physical, sorry, psychic and intuitive. And so I said, okay. And then I remember...
teaching people because my angels were helping me with this. We all are psychic and have each one of these. Some of them are stronger because they just come more naturally or we've practiced or whatever. But here is the kicker. As I was writing, they said, Michael in particular, but you know, your other psychic abilities will come online. You don't have to focus on them.
unless if you're working on these, if you're using the other ones, think about it like Pilates, you know, you're focusing on really strengthening your legs or so and so much of your body, the rest of your body gets stronger.
And I said, uh-huh, well, I don't have clairsentience, nor do I want it. And I have free will and choice. And I want to box myself in. I don't want to see dead people. I don't want to feel the physical aspects of somebody else or whatever. And so I was like, I don't know why I do this. But I said, I don't believe you, but I'll put it in the book anyway, because this is what you said. And then literally a week later,
I was experiencing all these physical things and symptoms and each day it was different. And it wasn't until about two or three weeks later, I realized I'm experiencing the physical sensations that people, even though they're not coming to me for these symptoms, that's what's going on with them. And then I heard this like laughing of, we told you so. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I like, oh my God. Um, me, uh,
me and my girls laugh a lot because we can actually like, both of them, I feel like I can actually like with you, I can actually talk to and be like, yes, oh my God. Or we're saying things in real time. And we're like, we have some choice loving names for them that we probably don't want on air, but we say it with love, you know, to them, like really guys, but absolutely that. And like the clear cognizant, like the, I just know it. Like, and when I, when that comes on,
It's like I can't not say it, but I don't know how I know it. I just know it. And I'm like, they keep making me repeat it. But you're right. And is that more like gut intuition? Is that what you would call it? You know what? It's a gut intuition. That can be a way that it appears. That's how it manifests. I know, but I'm asking for people that may not be. Yeah, it can be that like...
Absolutely. I think that that's, I want to say yes to that. And it can also come on board, like literally, okay, literally, I'll give you like a really quick example. I was saying something that was like, almost improbable. Okay, like to this one client that I was working with. And so interestingly, I don't need people to be dead to talk to their spirits or their souls or their higher self. So if you give me a picture of somebody, my mediumship is not just
Like, I don't need them to have been passed on. They can be passed on or they can be alive. And in this instance, I was speaking to a live person and they were speaking to me about their connection, blah, blah, blah. And then all of a sudden, it was just like, okay, I just said, I don't know how, I don't, this sounds like I'm making it up, but this person who like lived on the other side of the country is like gonna like,
they're near you. They know you. They know that they're near you and that they're literally, and I sound like an idiot because I just kept being literally, I was like, I'm sorry I sound like this, but all I can tell you is when they make me do this and they keep making it come out, it just is what it is. Let's just leave the empty curriculum and see how it manifests. But let me tell you something. I forget it wasn't that long later, not more than weeks. That individual ended up
shooting a movie in the town over and then ended up literally right across the street from the individual. We laughed and laughed and laughed. And I was like... So that was a... I get what you're saying. So that was like it was like they just kept...
Like, I guess I heard it too, but like it was also a knowing. Like, so sometimes it hits you twice at once. The information just dropped in. Yeah, like it just drops in instantly.
And then like they're making me say it. So I guess it's coming out in thought form too. But like, yeah, it was just like for me, but I think that's, it's important for viewers to know, don't box yourself for the way it comes from me. Because the way Claire, like you say, oh, it's a gut feeling. Sometimes it's a gut feeling for me, but more than a gut feeling, they do it like that to me where I'm just like, oh.
Also annoyed, but I get it. Yeah, that's why I guess I call it gut intuition and knowing because I know it in my gut. I just know it. Yeah. And I also think that that, I don't even say it's the subtler of the Claire's or the intuition thing.
It's actually, to me, sometimes the hardest for people to discern or distinguish when they have a really strong knowing because they think that that's the way everybody else operates. And that's not necessarily the case. And I think that's where people get tripped up. Like you said, it was the same about you're trying to box yourself into an identity. If I had boxed myself into an identity, I would never know what nodal point therapy is.
Right. So like when I do this, I wasn't like trying to develop nodal point therapy. Believe me, I don't think that I had it in me to be like, I'm going to do like some of the things when I learn it from school or I can develop like a program like the Energy Harmonics, MBSR to fill to follow that up as a complimentary thing like, OK, yeah, great. But when I was coming, when I was really, I feel like.
when nodal point was coming to be, when it was being birthed, what was happening was, I have to be honest with you, at that point, I would not dare call myself a medical intuitive, right? I didn't get trained formally as a medical intuitive. I don't box myself into those programs. I'm not saying that they're not worth anything. But again, like, it was just, I was already very...
well equipped at that point and well experienced and just letting things flow through because I had went through that that period of time where I was allowing that so I was also willing to get out of my own way because what happened was this I'm just gonna say how it happened I was doing
I was doing Reiki and I was doing readings, right? And I was doing some nutritional stuff at that point. I hadn't quite completed my graduate and postgraduate training. So I was like in the midst of it so I could bring some of it. And I'm sitting there and I was actually going to do Reiki on somebody and
And I all of a sudden was seeing like literally like when I tell you I can see in a body, I know that sounds very like, oh, my God, this woman is crazy. And but it's literally like my a lot of doctors see me come see me and nurses or refer to me because we laugh about it because they're like, you're like a human MRI. And I'm like, that's how I describe it.
I just don't know what I'm looking at. Yeah. So at least you can understand what you're looking at. Well, it was funny because, you know, you got to think for how many years I've been, I've been a nurse since 2001. I am used to head to toe assessments. All right. So it wasn't like, I'm just innocently in there like, you know,
And I get from the crown and now all of a sudden I'm down in this person's heart space. And when I tell you, I'm seeing what cardiac arrhythmias they had in their history and like what this and that. And the person's like, yeah. And like different, what family member had a stroke. And they're looking at me and they just go, Courtney, how do you know that? And I stopped. And I was mid-session with somebody. So I didn't want to be like, freak myself out or freak them out. And I was like,
Yeah, that's pretty interesting. And the one woman that I was, like she knew at the time
And this goes to say that not all relationships continue, but they serve their space and time. And this woman that where I had my initial place, I'm no longer in collaboration with her, but I'm really grateful for what our relationship was at the time and what it birthed. And I'll always remain in that gratitude. And I remember her saying to me, you do know that you're a medical intuitive, don't you? And I was like, well, I don't know if I would say that.
And it took me a minute, but that was actually part of my work at self-acceptance and not boxing myself in. And so I said, "How are you gonna get out of your own way here, Court?" And I thought, "Okay, I can be clear with them. This doesn't count as a diagnosis. I'm either confirming things that happened or didn't or pointing them to where there might be something that we might be concerned about if it's tracking and we could maybe expand on things that we could do."
And what I also, what the guides helped me realize and what the angels and my higher power helped me realize and what the medicine itself taught me was,
Courtney, just like how physical medicine can track in areas that you can't, this is tracking in areas that physical medicine can't touch. They're essential for someone's harmony and their homeostasis, right? Because that's what homeostasis is. It's harmony in the body, right? It's our self in our most natural state. But what NPT does is it's bringing harmonic balance
into one, that pattern line, but also across all of the energy bodies, we might need to do some supportive things. Like I said, we're not going to minimize that. That are like, okay, if I need to refer out in certain aspects, but what can we do here? But it's still going to touch in ways nothing else can.
It might touch in parallel zones or that. And we don't say, that's where I want to go. No, you don't tell me when you're coming that way, like if you come to me with integrative nutrition or NET, I'm doing a full-fledged assessment on you. If I'm doing NPT, don't you dare tell me a thing. Tell me nothing. Say your intention and your mind, please. And I'm going to give you the teaching. They'll hit it. And I'm telling you,
10 times out of 10 times. That's amazing. They hit it. And then I'm able to actually go through, utilize my medical intuition, utilize Reiki, utilize guided imagery, which is evidence-based. So Reiki evidence-based, guided imagery, evidence-based. And also using certain frequency healings. And then I'm able to, at the end of that, I use my mediumship
to literally drop in. So I go through the whole body and using all those different things, but how I use my mediumship, which is very helpful in both my energy work and my medicine world, believe it or not, is I literally take their hands and we come from laying on the table to sitting back again. And I just tell the guides, drop me into the moment of the node where there's the imbalance.
Well, I'm excited to see this with Leo. Right? Which means we need to wrap up soon on this. Yeah. But to be clear, no point itself is a three to five hour process. Oh, okay. Then we're not doing that. So you don't want to do that. But you can do quick like talking to animals and they...
Animals are so telepathic. They have no trouble letting you know. They're so quick to let you know. I find that work with animals is much quicker than humans, to be honest.
But fast forward to that, basically, I'm able to drop into that and people are like, "Oh my God, you're explaining everything." And then we basically create a balancing point and then send it all the way back and all the way forward on that pattern line. And let me tell you something.
Now you have to have a three-week follow-up because a lot of fragmentation happens in those three weeks. But the shifts are real and I have to pay attention and listen to people, what they're experiencing. Like I can see it, but I also need to listen. How was your experience? What was this like? Because if we can, again, get out of our own way about what I think I know about it all, I can learn more and more. And the energy will teach us and the guides will expand where we're going with it. So
It is one of those modalities I don't like people to do more than one to two times a year. It'd be like saying I want to have surgery a couple of times. You know what I mean? That's not, you can do Reiki, you can do any T, you can do a lot of other modalities more frequently. MPT is not one of them, but it will change the directory of your life. And I say that with great confidence only because after three years and many, many people, you know what's crazy? Until this podcast started,
I've been booked out and I literally don't have that big of a following on social media. And I don't have signs out on the road or anything like that. And I have been booked out since the time I started. That's amazing. Well, congratulations to you. I'm excited about it. But guess what? You know why? Because it's not me.
It's their energy field. It's the angels. They have their own team. That was like me with the podcast. I said no one would listen except my mom and my grandma. I don't even want to listen to my own podcast. I love your podcast. You do great. But I can't, I don't know. I don't think people, most people like hearing podcasts.
their own voice and stuff like that. But thank you for listening and giving me that. But real quick, before we wrap up and then we reshare how people can reach you, can you give us one or two maybe easy tips or practical steps for any of the stuff we were talking about? So I'll let you pick if it's to, to de-stress, is it to tap into your intuition, anything that you would recommend people could do? Yeah.
That they could do to help their intuition, you mean? Or that they could do in general? Well, I was saying you can pick either to de-stress, to heal, or to help their intuition. Any, whichever you'd like. Because we talked, we covered a lot of ground. Yeah, we actually did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I'm just, I'm looking for some, a few practical tips, but I say a few because I don't know where you want to, what you want to pull from. So I think that the best tips that I can give people is one,
is please stop bypassing your body, right? So like I would invite you into the more that we come into our bodies, right? The more that we get congruent with the actual body and how it, what care and we start working together, I promise you it will hit your intuition. You will become more intuitive. You will. What I find is whatever it is that your craft is or your purpose is or what you're doing,
Getting into that body and enhancing the connectivity and because the body will tell you, the physical body will tell you. Yeah, because I want to make sure because we talked about all the energy bodies. But here's the cool thing about the physical body. The physical body will let you know where, what energy body the other deficits are on.
That's what I love about. That's why I do a lot of physical bypassing. It happened. You know what? No, Nicole, a lot of people do. My dad even said, because I had my birthday, Natalie and I are both our Piscean sisters. I love you guys.
And he said, when you hit these two ages, and I'm not going to say this because I don't want to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for me or anyone else. But he's like, when you hit these two ages, and I still have some ways to go, he's like, this is when your body stuff shuts down. And I started thinking. I got this intuitive hit. I said, I'm not going to wait.
until those ages. I'm going to start listening to my body more. So you've taught me a lesson that I've been needing to hear and I clearly haven't been hearing it. So thank you. I'm telling you, like even when I work with like some really, and I mean prominent mediums, I mean, there's, I get everybody can be, but certain people are just, they're here for it. That's what they are. And
These are people that already had all the clairs as well. And they ended up with some health issues. There was like some body issues or whatever. And I was able to work with them in that way, but also in looking at where other things might be in the other energy bodies, but definitely not bypassing the body, which they were doing for a while. They were trying not to, but sometimes chronic pain makes you bypass the body. So, and that can be social or physical. So,
So don't physically bypass. So don't bypass. So you, but that will, because when that connectivity increases, you become more of a clear channel because the body's going to say, here's where this unresolved stress or trauma was stored. And that's going to jack up your system from being as clear. So you like for you, it's clear. I can see your energy field from here. You are very, you're
intuition is just, it literally just, it vibrates. Like there's such this flow. It's probably a little, it's funny knowing that you're a Pisces because it's literally that flowy. Like I'm sure that boundaries weren't your strong point in life. You probably had to really work with them and learn them. But like,
It's an amazing thing when we can feel at home and it allows us to be present more easy and actually get stronger. And it's like, well, yeah, I don't need to be a stronger psychic either, but I'm open to it. You know, like...
Well, I think a lot of people that listen do for the most part. They're either curious or they want to understand. They're opening up. And so you said not physically bypassing. And then the other thing I'm going to bring back from our first part and then we'll wrap up is making sure that you're present.
Yes. Practicing present moment awareness. And that is, I said the word practice. So we cultivate our liberation, right? By practicing that. And there's tons of tools like MBSR, different meditation techniques, breath work, finding those practices from, let me tell you something. Can I just tell everybody to please find trustworthy, ethical practitioners in
This world is filled with a lot... I'm sorry if this insults people, but it's filled with a lot of wannabes who do not have a lot of good ethics and or practice in their background. It's easy to get flighty with this stuff and ungrounded. And guess what? People think it's cute. It's not. It can actually damage your subconscious and inherently your body. Sometimes it is, but it's just like a terrible experience. But like what...
It matters. Let me tell you, I do a lot of undoing in this room. Same. Same. And that's why I have an episode on scammers. And I actually the other day realized, and then we will truly wrap up, is that we wrote, I said Scott and I wrote a blog post about,
or I did, or he did, I don't know. It doesn't matter. One of us wrote it and we, we recapped all of the tips and I need to post that on my website. So if you're wondering some of the red flags or other things, I will make sure at some point. Yeah. It needs to be talked about more. I think we, we, uh, often, like you were saying in the first part of this, the, um,
toxic positivity and everything else, which is a larger discussion. That's another way of doing it. But yeah, also people that don't have like sever the energetic connections or somebody thinks, hey, I'm in this city and this is the city where it's really great to get an energy healing and you pop in almost like you're popping in to have your cards read or something. And it's way different.
I think, than having your cards read, which is, by the way, still tapping into your energy if the person's legitimately doing it. That's right.
or opening yourself up to allow somebody to do energy work on you. Very different ballgame. You're absolutely right. Like you really are because you're basically saying, yes, I'm open. And it's very intimate. And you're talking about, that is, that can be, it's a strong body, but it can be a fragile body. And it's not, I'm sorry, but it's not harmless. And, yeah.
I feel very strongly, I think, and very passionate. And I've heard when you, some of the things that I really liked about you, Nicole, is when I've heard that I was like, oh my God, thank God someone's saying that out loud. Because you've said things or different ways or where you're like, you've talked about too, like, I'm not just going to go up to people rando, like,
Yeah, I'm not, when I'm, this is the other thing, learn about energy boundaries. So here I am, I am not open all the time. If I'm going to the store or the market or I'm with my family, I have my energy boundaries set so that I'm not always on. First of all, I don't want you in my business. And secondly, I don't really, people are like, wouldn't you want to find this out? No, I don't know.
I have enough of my own stuff to deal with. Fun little story. And then it will truly, and I'll be like, what's your website again? And number. Yeah, okay. I was having a moment and I was at home and I have strong energetic boundaries and I'm sharing this so other people can be more aware of it too. Yes.
And I started feeling really good. This energy was coming in and I thought, okay, is this my guides and angels? You know, I give permission to them, obviously, and my spirit team to connect with me and to even when I'm not necessarily in sessions to hold me in this comfort. And I start feeling it out and I pick up my phone and I knew exactly who it was. And I said, are you working on me right now? And they said, yes, I am. Is that okay? Okay.
Oh my God. And I said, yes, because, and I don't want to embarrass this person because they have my, they have permission pretty much indefinitely. Yeah. And they asked my higher self and everything else. But the fact that I was able to pick up on that. And when you're talking about the, the fragility of some of this and that connection, it's
Paying attention, again, being present and aware of when there could be those ripple effects. Okay. So real quick, how can people reach you again? Okay. So the three best ways to reach me are by email, which you can find on... You can find my email on my website, which is www.notalpointenergyworks.com. And...
For the spelling of that, they'll be able to see that spelling somewhere, Nodal Point Energy Works, right? Yes, ma'am. And then the real best way to actually make an appointment with me as I'm in the process of trying to get my website and booking together, but honestly, it's just to text me directly at the business line. So that would be, don't call, text, because I get too many spam calls and I'm in session most every day, so I can't actually pick up.
So if you text me, it really is me. It's 267-
2090111. I will block spammers or people being inappropriate. So I have no problem with that. And or you can go on any of my social media. Again, I would love for more people to follow me on social media. I try to post what I can, but it's just a little, I'm more in the actual rooms and word of mouth than anything else. But yeah, I also try to put up, I've made a conscious effort to, I'm on Facebook, on Notal Point Energy Works, and
LLC, and then I'm on IG as well. So I don't go on my IG that much except for my personal IG, which is a cccrino1111. But yeah, that's pretty... Stick with the website and the texting. Yeah, and an easy way too is if you're ever curious and you can't remember and you don't go into the show notes if you're listening online,
I only follow on social people that have been on the show. So that's also another easy way to find folks like Courtney. Well, thanks again for being on. I've loved both of our conversations. Hopefully everyone else too loves the one part and the two parter. And for now we're going to head over to Patreon. So for pain members, we're going to talk about Leo. Okay. All right. Yeah.
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