The Modern Witch – Psychic Gifts & Sacred Connection (with Cawnawyn Mor)
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You are listening to A Psychic Story, a podcast that shares behind-the-scenes insights of people who lead supernatural lives among the ordinary. And I'm your host, Nicole Bigley. Join me every Wednesday as I dispel the myths behind magic and lore. Welcome to A Psychic Story. Mysticism Demystified.

Hi, psychic listeners. Our guest for this episode of A Psychic Story is a composer, astrologer, and eclectic witch. Her music is based on stories of ritual, paganism, fantasy, and folktale. She is also the featured monthly astrologer on the Bonfire Babble podcast. This is the story of Conowyn Moore. Welcome to A Psychic Story, Conowyn. Thank you.

Thank you so much for having me, Nicole. I am thrilled to be here. We usually start out with people's backstories and all of that good stuff. But first, what does psychic mean to you? So to me, psychic is truly somebody who is able to have an awareness of energy that like

goes way deeper, right, than the typical day-to-day interactions we have. It's somebody who's tapped into potentially different dimensions, but I really think of this as like

Being able to communicate with angels, with ancestors, with the way that like nature is manifesting on a level that we cannot necessarily see in our day to day, but a psychic is able to tap into that with a deep awareness. And it's almost like they're able to feel the pulse or the rhythm of the universe in a way that most of us

might go our whole lives and never really tap into. So I personally believe that everybody holds that power in some capacity. And for many, it just has to be awakened and practiced and utilized in a day-to-day manner. But some of us

are more naturally inclined to tap into that energy and that awareness. But I truly believe that that power exists within all of us. And some of us out there are paving the way and leading the way for all the rest of us to awaken those abilities. And speaking of that, do you have psychic and intuitive abilities? My belief, as you said, we all do.

But what are yours? I really feel like it took a while for me to really recognize and I guess accept that, yes, in fact, this is what I'm experiencing. Because throughout my childhood, I distinctly remember talking to people that were not there. And, you know, it was a form of play as a child. And now growing up, it's like, oh, we actually, that may have been really truly me talking to my great-grandchildren.

mother, you know, to people that have passed on. And when I was 14, I had my very first experience that I truly looked back, I looked back on throughout my whole life and went like, that was something different. And now that I've really embraced my witchcraft practice, I've been able to just manifest a better understanding of what all of this is and how I interact with

these different realms. And I truly believe that I'm lucky enough to say that I have this ability that I'm practicing it all the time and getting better at it. And that I've seen others also in my life awaken to it as well. So it's been a very cool journey to accept it, I guess, like really is the best way to say. Well, I know you've had other experiences, but you said that one moment stood out to you when you were in your teens. That was at Gettysburg, correct? Yeah.

Can you share a little bit about that? Of course, yeah. I was with my eighth grade trip and we were just doing the tour that everybody does when they go to Gettysburg, right? And we came upon this statue of a Confederate boy who was holding a flag. And we were being told the story of the flag bearers during that battle. And it was like,

Suddenly I had a complete out of body experience where I was there on the battlefield. I dropped to my knees. I could smell the blood. I could hear the anguish and the cries and it just completely took me over. It was like I was physically transported through time to a different space.

And everybody around me was just like, what is wrong with her? They're looking at me like, what's happening? But I remember just like being so viscerally in that space. Like I was connecting with the soul of this boy. And like, I had a really hard time looking away from his eyes. The statue, right? But like, it was as if I was there and it took me about an hour to really truly recover and feel like back into myself again.

But that always stood out to me as such a profound moment of connection to something much bigger. And I think, you know, I could have gone my whole life and not had that experience and maybe not recognize like there's something more out there. There's something that we don't understand that we haven't put science in terms to. And for me, connecting in such a visceral, deep way was like proof that there's more that I don't understand, but I'm curious. And that kind of awakened that journey within me.

And looking back now, did you find more information about that experience that you had? Like, for example, do you think that you actually have been there in a previous life? Was it a not a body experience or were you more tapping in, I guess, to the energy of the place and all of that? Thank you. Yeah, that's a great question to clarify. I believe that my form of what

whatever this gift is, whatever this ability is, is truly being able to sort of bridge that dimension and put myself there. So maybe it's through empathically connecting to that soul, to that spirit across time, or perhaps it's just being able to sort of dance across different dimensions. Because I use this now as a tool when I'm doing my own meditative or trance work and then also when I'm writing my music.

I find that it's very easy for me to sort of slip into new places. And so I think that was kind of the first instance where empathically I was really bonding with this soul, this person that we were hearing their story, because I don't necessarily believe I have a past life in that time.

But I wouldn't be surprised if I did have a past life in some form of a battlefield just based on some of the way my practice has unfolded over the years. But that specific instance, I do think I was just really bonding with that soul in that moment. And you're bringing up a memory for me. And that is when I was in high school, I loved history. I still love history. And

And a part of me wonders if I was somehow intuitively tapping into things when I was reading about history or we would go on those field trips too. I don't think I ever went to Gettysburg, but the Civil War in particular was such a huge time period, obviously, in America for so many obvious reasons. But also, I felt drawn to that time period. But looking back at the photos and

seeing all of that, it's almost as if these people were jumping off the page, their experiences and pain and everything else. So thank you for sharing about that. Okay. So one other question before we get into the main topic aspect too is, so when you had that experience, was there any conversations or anything that afterwards you had with friends or family? And also, did your family have any sort of psychic or intuitive abilities that you know of then or now?

So my father has always been a really incredible person in my life because he, not only have we had this father-daughter relationship and have been very close, but he and I would go deep into the evenings talking about all sorts of topics. So I think it actually took me quite a while to admit to him that I'd had this experience. Now, as I've gotten into my adult years, you know, he knows I've kind of gone on my own path because my family growing up was

Christian and very much not accepting of, I wouldn't, I mean, I shouldn't say not accepting. That's not quite fair, but I would say very afraid of, like there was a lot of fear around like, what is she doing talking to ghosts and getting interested in like past lives? Like this is not what we taught her. And it was very different from my upbringing. But he and I always had the space where we could really talk about anything and

And one of our favorite topics was aliens. We would discuss aliens late into the evening. So it kind of opened this doorway for me to have a safe space to just express my curiosity, my questions with him because he had a lot of questions too. And he's a bit more eclectic in

his study of history as well as like religion and culture. He's been around the world and has been exposed to a lot of different ideas. And I think that had a huge impact on where my spirituality has now manifested. But yeah,

I, uh, I didn't really have the ability to admit to anybody that I was going through that. Even my friends with me on that trip, like, I think I asked them like, did you feel that? And they're like, feel what? You know? Yeah. Like you didn't, you weren't there. I was,

The guy got transported to another time reality. Yeah. And that was, I mean, that was quite an impactful trip as a whole. So that was one of many things that occurred that I hold with me dearly now. But I would say that, yeah, it's taken me a very long time to find a community that I could really be open and express those ideas with. It was almost something, I won't say that I've forgotten, but I'd put way in the back of my mind that,

And then when I was exposed to a lot more people that have just been open to it in recent years, especially one of my friends who's a very gifted psychic and wonderfully just meant she's been a mentor to me for years. And when I told her about that experience, she's like, oh, yeah, definitely. So just having that validation much later was very rewarding. But at the time, yeah, I really didn't have anyone I could expressly say those things to. I at least had that space, though. And I think that's why I've been able to just...

Embrace it fully as an adult. Yeah. And if we have time, I would also maybe love to talk about that your passion about nurturing psychic awareness in children, because I do have another podcast, which maybe later you can come onto that one when I pick it back up. Yeah, yeah. It's a spinoff of this one. So it's for kids and teens.

But yeah, I think that when we have support, either way, whether we are supported or we aren't supported when we're children with intuitive abilities or psychic abilities, it's

it really informs who we become and who we are. And some people will use that as a launching pad and others, hopefully later they can revisit it, but it all forms our experiences. I think about how do we break down those walls or how do our abilities actually evolve over time? So definitely something to talk about if we have time. Okay, so for those not familiar, what is paganism? And also kind of a follow-up to that is

witchcraft and modern witchcraft and how you identify. Love it. You're hitting me with a summarize all of this into like a beautiful sentence. We'll see. I have a lot of Gemini, so I tend to write. Go right ahead. The floor is yours. I will mute my mic. Appreciate it.

Thank you. No worries. So paganism, I would define that as a spirituality or a spiritual practice, rather, connected to something other than the main Abrahamic religions. Oftentimes, this comes from a cultural observance of multiple deities. So a pantheon of deities, for example, like the Greek pantheon is one we're very familiar with, even in modern culture. But looking at polytheistic deities,

structures within a spiritual practice. It's typically how I think it's kind of umbrella termed for paganism. And this can also extend into worship, like through animism and expressing our spiritual practice through recognizing the divinity in all things, whether they are mundane items or they're natural items or they are animals or plants or whichever. So I think it's a really broad umbrella term.

and probably hard to pinpoint, but I really see it personally as seeing the divinity in all things, that God exists in many, many forms. And personally, I observe a bit more of a when you separate out the deity. So I try to really examine

examine deity through the culture that it's coming from. So I wouldn't blend together necessarily a Greek pantheon with an Irish pantheon and say they are the same. They may share similar characteristics, but I do treat them separately because of course the cultures are very separate, very different. So I try to take in a historical context as well.

So there's sort of my approach to paganism and then also what I understand the definition to be. And then if we think about witchcraft, I really look at witchcraft as this is a practice around being able to manipulate power through all things. So recognizing that all things do hold power as well as intention and manipulating those things. And often we think of manipulation as maybe a negative term, but I really truly believe

look at it as if you were manipulating an object or clay in front of you. It is a recognition that I have an ability to change this through the power that it holds. And I recognize that power. So it's almost kind of like magic, manifestation, alchemy in a way, to some extent. Absolutely. Yeah. I would say that for me, I would define witchcraft as a practice, right? And it doesn't have...

be tied to a deity or tied to paganism. But to practice magic, right? Or also to practice, I mean, witchcraft has had so many different labels thrown inside of it, right? Where like just the act of saying an affirmation in the mirror, you're not necessarily, you know, working with anything tangible, but you are changing your entire body or your entire...

mindset through intention. So really, I think it's more witchcraft to me is more about intention than it is the manipulation of magic specifically. But I think magic is very much blended into that. And correct me if I'm wrong or misunderstanding this, but you can be a witch and or practice witchcraft, but that doesn't necessarily mean that you're Wiccan.

Because Wiccan is a religion, correct? Correct. Yes. Yeah. In simple terms, yes. And, you know, we don't have to talk in too much detail about that, but about Wiccan, how is that then? I mean, I understand the concept of religion with that, but that is that more of like your day-to-day life and how you infuse everything with it?

Personally, I really look at Wicca through the lens of this was established by Gerald Gardner and his coven and then was taken and hived off into all the covens we see today. It is, I would say, more structured like a religion. They are going to have very specific ways that they're celebrating different holidays, different Sabbaths throughout the year, the way that they interact with magic and intention. So there's a lot of crossover there.

right? But witchcraft in itself, working with intention stretches way, way, way far back. And in fact, you know, if we look at history, they're not necessarily calling people witches either. That was a more modern term that we've kind of put onto that practice.

But Wicca, I think, is kind of this blend of the religion and the practice and the spirituality all together, which is, you know, a beautiful blend if that's the way you want to live your life. But some people don't resonate with the Wiccan structure because a lot of it has been adopted from other cultures and sort of retrofit into something, which...

works as a package. Absolutely. But I don't consider myself a pagan personally. Okay. And I wasn't planning on asking this question, but it's come up a couple of times psychically. So I'm going to go ahead and bring it up. And if you don't know the answer to that, we can move on too. But I keep hearing druids and druidism. So what is that in relation to what we're talking about here now?

I love that you're asking this. And this is something that I am currently working on, like understanding further. So the term Druid, to my understanding, and this, I mean, please, anybody listening, use this as an invitation to study further because there are great resources out there and I'm not necessarily one of them because I'm learning from them. But I do work with the Irish Pantheon. And so Druid, the idea of Druid comes up a lot. Many people modern day would prefer to call themselves a Druid over a witch because

And a lot of that, I think, comes from the Celtic practices. And you can tie that specifically to the Irish, to the Welsh, to the Scottish, depending on where you're pulling your inspiration from. Druid itself, there are a lot of druidic practices and circles that are stemming from those Celtic or proto-Celtic practices.

religions. And they can get very specific as well, like I said, down to the different culture. Some prefer to use the term drí in Irish, at least, that I'm familiar with. Laura O'Brien is somebody that I follow closely and they prefer to be known as a drí. And so, yeah, I think that there's

a lot there for people if you're interested in that delineation. But I would say it is definitely different from witchcraft practice because it stems from a cultural religion. Yeah, a lot of times when I'll tune in or it'll come up from somebody in their energy field or even previous lives,

alternate lives, as I like to call them. I'll see people outside and a lot of the nature and the elements and it feels mystical. And to your point, more of that cultural of where a location is in the world. But yeah, so I feel like I need to do some research on this separately because it keeps coming up. So I'm like, thank you. All right, we need to move on to what we're here to talk about today. So that is, so what does modern witchcraft mean to you?

And how do you use it in your day-to-day? So for me, modern witchcraft is, I mean, I'm going to go back to what I said earlier, which is like that intentional use of and recognition of power. So personally, on a day-to-day level, I'm a mom of two very young kids. So my practice does not look as performative as many witchcraft practices online may try to get you to believe that they look like. A lot of mine has more to do with a recognition of

I'm going to surrender to the universe and try and accept what is coming to me today and operate with awareness of the present moment that I'm seeing what's coming in and interacting in the moment with that. That feels so vague to say, but a good example is I have an alarm going off on my phone right now. And for me, just a little...

reminder every hour or so on these like special times, 11, 11, 12, 12, 13, 13, right? It gives me the awareness to just stop, be present and, and,

embrace something and then I move on with my day, you know, and it's that constant reminder of like, keep your eyes open. Magic is around every corner. You know, that's kind of how I approach my own modern witchcraft. For a lot of people, this can look like doing full-blown rituals, going on trance journeys every night, lighting your candles for manifesting and doing your glamour magic in the mirror. And I love to incorporate all of those practices and

none of them are required, right? I really feel like it's that deep intention through everything you do, recognizing the power of the magic in every piece of your life. If you're doing that to me, that is witchcraft. But

A lot of people, I think, feel the pressure to do more of the performative work. And there's a lot of meaning to that. When we assign all of that attention and intention into that action, it holds more power and all of the stillness we can create around it to focus our energy is only going to amplify ourselves.

our results. But some of us, we have very busy lives. So to me, it really looks like a here, there where I can. And then if I'm able to really step into the work I do channeling through composition, as well as I would argue a lot of my work in astrology and I would say my ability to incorporate my astrological practice into my day-to-day, that to me feels like my witchcraft. And

And you say something that's key for people hearing or listening to this episode, and that is whether you have a spiritual approach to your life or you have steps or routine, rituals, whatever that could look like for you. It sounds the same to you where you say you're intentional about what you incorporate into your day-to-day, but it doesn't have to look the same way every time.

You know, we get hung up on the checklist or even myself when I'm asking guests, all right, what are some tips? What are some steps? What are these things? But it's not necessarily meant it being whatever that practice is or however you show up for the universe to be intentional to some extent on, okay, when and how am I incorporating it? But it doesn't have to be this, you know, step-by-step blueprint, so to speak. Right.

Very rigid, I guess, is the word that was evading me that I was trying to say here. I would also like to, if you're cool with it, talk about some of the ones that you mentioned. So the glamourine, the trans journey, take a little bit of time to explain some of the things in detail that people aren't familiar with what that looks like and how you do it.

Absolutely. Yeah. Trans journey for me has been one that I've really enjoyed recently. I've been giving myself the time to actually take that where I can. So for me, what that looks like, though, I'll be completely transparent, is

I have what a lot of people consider a mind palace. So I go to this place that I've created in my mind as sort of a, just a landing zone, I guess. But it allows me the space comfortably to connect with the different elements, to gather materials. And I go where...

I feel called. So sometimes that looks like going to the underworld and speaking with King Hades. Sometimes that looks like going to the forest and speaking with the creatures that live in the forest and the different animals that show up as deities. Sometimes this looks like talking to my higher self and just having a conversation under the moonlight, like, you know, and so it's, it can be very, I really want to encourage like anybody listening that like,

Like I try to approach a lot of this through play because when we're playing, we're letting go of that rigidity that like might get in the way that might cause a judgment. Like I want to be able to fully just immerse myself in something unapologetically, authentically.

And have that experience in an innocent light, write it down. And then after that, I take that moment to really assess it and to start pulling it apart. But in the moment, I'm really trying to be very open and playful. Now I am a Leo, right? So this kind of goes to the territory. I have a son in the fifth house, if any of you know what that means. Play is kind of my shtick.

And so, and self-expression. So that is how I approach a lot of my trans journey work. And I leave it very open-ended. If I'm going someplace new or working with a new deity, I try to do some research around that and maybe look up a prompt for a trans journey, just so I have an idea of like, what are some things I should bring in that instance? But a lot of times, you know, some of my most powerful work, I remember I connected with the spirit of my grandfather and my grandmother and my aunt.

shortly after I was giving away this car that my grandfather gave me and I felt really guilty about it. So I just wanted to go talk to him. And I listened to this YouTube meditative journey to go visit him and talk to him. And I think I got maybe two minutes into the prompts and then he was there. And then I just stopped listening to the YouTube. I just let it unfold naturally. And it was

easily one of the most powerful experiences I've had in that space. So not feeling so connected or so like strung into whatever prompt you're using because there is room to just explore and to let things happen and to not approach that with judgment. So that would, I would say is sort of my approach to transjourney and meditative journey. Real quick, what did he say about the car? Oh, he was...

That man was such a icon. Like, honestly, he was like larger than life kind of person. And he just didn't even care. He was just like, it's just a vehicle, huh? Like, don't worry about it. He was lovely. And just being able to connect with him, I remember feeling just such a relief. Like it was immediate. Oh, there's nothing to it.

this is a car. Yes. And I took care of it and it's reached the end of its life. And so we actually left it in like a beautiful sunflower field and it's like still there, I guess. It can get so fanciful, but

I also just feel like having that sacred space in my mind is really comforting in those moments where maybe I missed the car or I do feel guilty. It's like, no, no, no, we put it somewhere special together. And then also too, before we move on to the next thing, is that I wanted to say, when I was younger, my guides and angels, Michael in particular, taught me how to create a sacred space in my mind. And so I never heard about it the way you framed it, which was my, what was it?

A mind palace. Yeah. A mind palace. Okay. So who knew I'm doing witchcraft and I had no idea through my guides and angels. Here we go. And it's in my book. So if I shared that with anyone, your sacred place, it's very similar. Okay. Now please continue. Are you going to say maybe glamorine? Is that?

the next one? Oh, sure. Yeah, I can go into that. I didn't know where you're going to go next, but I wanted to kind of talk about that. Yeah, sure. So glamoring is, this is an age old, right? Like how long have we as humans been trying to affect the way that we personally show up in the world and adjust our appearance to perhaps

bring in more attraction or bring in more friendships or just have a better personal, I guess, impression when we walk into a room. So glamoring for me really shows up. I do a lot of work with sigils. And so I work with sigils using them on my body through my products. I use affirmations.

and speak those into the mirror. I'm really working actually like right now with this whole Venus retrograde. I find like it's a great time to sort of rework and pull apart and understand on a deeper level, like what your Venus looks like for you. So for me, that was like, how am I actually showing love to myself? Am I, am I doing, if I'm, am I really loving myself to the, to the degree that I could be? And

And lo and behold, I really don't feel like I was. And so just that kind of practice ended up affecting the way I was doing my Glamoring Magic. And instead of being more focused on manifesting things from an outside place, it really became more about cultivating an inner love. And that's shown up in such a beautiful way just in the last recent week. So this is kind of what I meant about incorporating some of the astrology too. Because for me, a huge part of my practice is looking at what the planets are doing and

observing the transits and seeing how can I best utilize this because I look at transits as the weather. And so, you know, it's not happening to us. Like when it rains, the rain isn't like out to get us. It's just raining. So how are you going to dress when you go outside? It's up to you. And so I use those transits as a

method of crafting whatever it is I'm going to be focused on during that time period. And I find that to be really beneficial and useful. So in the form of glamoring specifically, that's one that I've been really using a lot because of this Venus retrograde. That's a really good way of looking at it. I hadn't thought of that before where it's like raining.

How are you going to dress? How are you going to go about the day based on the weather or the planets? It's, yeah, essentially just the energy outside and inside. So however you want to show up for it. Okay. So we've been talking a little bit about, you know, your personal journey, but can you share if there was a specific moment or a turning point in your personal journey into witchcraft? Sure. Yeah. So this is actually when I met that friend of mine who is

I'm a very talented psychic. I feel very lucky to say that I live in a home that I consider my dream home. But there was always this spot in one of the rooms that felt a little icky to me and sticky. And this was around the time I'd been really diving into astrology. I had a bit of a mental breakdown earlier in the year. And it's because I was trying to run like six YouTube channels. I'm a little ambitious, okay?

So again, the Gemini just gets really loud. And so I was trying to run too many things. I turned to my other mentor, who's my astrology mentor, who I love and adore. And she kind of got me. Astrology was like my gateway drug to all of this.

And so I started looking up more things around like, how do I improve my psychic ability? And how do I connect with angels? Like I've been using angel cards for a while, actually as my step into like, I'm going to start working with these Oracle decks and these things. So that was kind of a slow, gradual moment. But I do remember when

I decided I need to do something about this corner of this room. And there's this nearby store that sells a bunch of like metaphysical items. I should just go in there and ask somebody for help. Like, what do I do about this? So I walked in and she was the first person to help me. And she goes by the laughing gypsy, but her name is Rochelle Baron Knight. And she's,

Meeting her was so great. She got me like a sage stick. Like, you know, I did the whole thing and now the room feels much better and my son sleeps very peacefully in there. But it turns out it was facing a graveyard that's like up the road from my house. Yeah. And there's a creek that runs down the graveyard into my backyard. That'll do it. So yeah. And now having visited that place many, many times and tried to care for it and, you

talk to the spirits there. We don't have any other sticky issues, which is nice. Yeah. And conversing with her more and connecting with her, I started doing her new moon circles that she was hosting. She now has her own store. We had a group for a little while called the Awakened Mages where we would just talk about stuff and

just all the things you can't talk to like average day-to-day people about, you know, what do you think of hermeticism? You know, that kind of thing. And we would practice our like psychic gifts and try to predict things and work on clairtangency together, clairvoyancy, like all sorts of

fun practices that she would have for us. So really wonderful, wonderful gifted person that I adore. And that was kind of like my big step into that space. And then also recognizing like, oh, I do have a sense about this. Like who knew, you know? Yeah, no, that's great. And so what is a warrior witch? That's hard to say. Warrior witch. Say that five times real fast. And how does that differ from maybe other types of spiritual practitioners?

I love that you're bringing this up right now. We have Neptune just entering Aries, so this feels very on point for this. Okay, so I'm guessing the reason you're asking this, if I may sort of decode this a little bit, is because I work with a group called the Divine Warrior Witches. So that group really came from...

a dream that my friend and I had. So I joined a coven years ago and that coven disbanded, but my sister through that coven, she and I decided to take up the reins and celebrate the Sabbaths in the community. And for us, we really felt that at the time, this was 2021. So people were really struggling to find any form of light, of hope. And we really wanted to come in and give the community a space to come together and practice together. But

when we face those day-to-day battles, when we face the injustices, the inequality in the world, when we look at the state of the world and we wonder, like, how can we possibly live to find another day, right? When it feels really hard to continue to pursue a spiritual life or a life that is steeped in hope and in a belief and an awareness of something bigger and fighting for our Mother Earth, right? Like, these were all things that we were thinking about and

really being a warrior, which to me personally is about recognizing that divine power within you and using that to lead the charge, to be the one that steps up and says, you know, let's practice as a community. Let's get together. Let's strengthen each other through this work. Let's recognize the divine within each of us and accept and open to all of that. And also what are you doing to cultivate that?

that ability to fight within yourself, which again, I think is with Neptune having just entered Aries on the 30th of March, like this is a question I think the collective is going to be very much asking going forward in whatever capacity that shows up for you, right? Whatever your beliefs are. So I personally use a lot of my own practice in my exercise routine, in my ability to defend myself, that is a core.

part of who I am. And so I see that manifested in that way, but I have friends who, you know, just getting up for them and like doing their day-to-day routine is a big win. So it's, it's also about celebrating those wins when we can stand up and,

you know, act on behalf of ourselves, let alone a community. But anyway, that was, that's kind of the seed of where that warrior witch came from. And it's really something that all of us are considering all the time and trying to expand as well as our community expands. Yeah, that's really powerful.

And you answered this, but I'm going to ask it one more time too, just to make sure if there was anything else you wanted to build upon. Like how may that differ from any sort of other types of spiritual practitioners? Yeah, great question. I would say, you know, again, it's where is your intention going? Some people are not born to feel like they want to be a warrior and that's okay. And not everybody has to go to war. That's, I honestly, I think that's the blessing of having people who are willing to step up so that not everybody does have to be at war all the time.

So if your practice looks like very nature-based, very peace-filled, if you're working with, you know, the other folk and you want to like have your tea parties, like please, by all means, do that and enjoy and find that joy because there are some of us who feel called to step up and fight where necessary. So you don't have to. I, you know, and without sounding too self-sacrificing, right? Because there is an element of that. But truthfully, like...

this world is meant to have many different shades of practices. So not everybody has to feel called to be a warrior, but in those moments where you do have to fight for something or just motivate yourself to move in some way, sometimes a bit of that energy can go a long way. Yes, yes. Well, thank you so much. Okay, so next question, is the path of witchcraft for everyone or does it call to certain types of people? Hmm. Hmm.

Isn't that the question? Like I said, I was doing it and didn't realize I was doing it to some extent. And truthfully, what is that? I would say it can really be viewed as somewhat of a label. That's how I define it. But others might define witchcraft entirely differently. And so in their mind, maybe they aren't doing it.

I really feel like the term witch is something everybody has to, if you're in that sphere, right? Like if you're exposed to this, doing the inner work to figure out what that relates to, how that looks to you is really important if you're going to pursue that in any form, whether it just be knowledge of it or an actual practice. And it took me a little while to really be comfortable with the term. Again, I grew up with a Christian background, so I was unpacking some of those biases and

And then also, I kind of have always viewed myself as a bit of like a renegade rebel where I'm like, I'm not going to fall into the category that everyone says I am when actually I was in fact doing what I now consider to be witchcraft, you know, at the time. So, you know, some of it was just an acceptance around what are my own issues with that term because the term holds true.

a lot of history inside of it and a lot of prejudice and bias. So to answer your question a little more directly, I think that if you're feeling called to look into or pursue witchcraft, really understand what it is you're following. What are your motivations and what are your intentions? And then if you want to take that label on and recognize it as a part of your identity, it's

why like really know why I earlier tried to give my answers to why I you know use that and I think everybody's might look a little different and that's okay because these terms are important to use and I just I wouldn't I would caution anybody just throwing the term on like it's a hat to wear right like that that's where things can get complicated because if you're questioned about it or if you're interrogated frankly which this day and age witches are still interrogated right like

you should have an answer. You should be able to back yourself up, have a solid foundation. Yeah. And I'm loving that we're talking about this too, because that is, again, one of the main reasons I called the podcast A Psychic Story is because there's fear about coming out of the psychic closet. There's a fear about putting on another label. And by the way, I don't feel that we have to have labels or definitions or terms to

but addressing it head on at least and being able to have a conversation around what is a psychic? What does that mean to you? What is a witch? What does that mean to you? How do you maybe live a life that incorporates some of those things that is the essence and energy behind something? So all very important as far as what you're sharing and everything. Okay. Okay.

So what are some daily rituals or tools? We talked about the things like, you know, trans journey and glamorine, but are there other things that you would maybe recommend or for people to consider if they want to step into which energy? Ooh, which energy specifically? Yeah. I mean, um, and maybe you can share also what, which energy is, um, and how that may differ too. Cause I kind of went straight into that without maybe explaining it. Oh, no worries. It's all good. Yeah. I can totally, you know, um,

Yeah. And for me, again, I want to emphasize it's going to look different for everybody. You can ask any witch and they're tapping into that. They're tapping into the pulse of whatever their practice is, is going to look different. For me, I found the most beneficial thing, especially because of the schedule I lead, the life I have, which just a few years ago when I started this journey looked nothing like this. I was spending way more hours being able to just dive into these practices. But now I'm

For me, it's about those little moments of connection with something bigger than myself. So I would say, recognizing that you can take five minutes. I literally set a timer for five minutes and I sit on my front porch. I don't even have a chair out there. I just sit with my coffee and I just try to connect to... And this can look like anything. It can look like connecting to source, connecting to universe, connecting to your higher self. Something bigger than yourself that is...

a recognition of those greater powers that be, right? That there is something more out there. For me, I'm connecting with my highest self. And I really just come with the curiosity, the question of like, what do you see for me today? Where should I be going? And that openness and then just allowing whatever visual internally, because I'm able to visualize, maybe this looks like different for you. Maybe you're hearing something. Maybe you're feeling something in your body. Maybe you see something out in nature that like

speaks to you on some symbolic level, right? But I can usually just close my eyes and be given a picture of something. And sometimes I don't understand it at all. The other day, one of my pictures was like, I was painting a white castle. I was like, I don't know what that means. Sounds great. It sounds really fun. But like, I have no time to paint today. But thank you. But you know, it ended up meaning something more...

resonant later on in the week. And so it's really cool opening yourself in just a small little fragment of time to that bigger universe. And then just being open about it. Approach it with zero judgment. It doesn't have to mean anything in the moment. You may not understand it whatsoever. Or perhaps it's really profound and it means a lot. And then you have that gift of that moment. I would say starting with that, if you can start your day with some sort of awareness tapping into...

It will give you that framework and that foundation throughout the rest of your day to sort of carry you in those moments that maybe feel super mundane and not connected to witchcraft, right? It may inspire you to light a candle later that day or perhaps do some more time in front of the mirror doing some glamour work or perhaps go out in nature and really connect with and like

work on something. It can also look as simple as cleaning up the earth around us and like participating in a community service, again, tapping into something greater than ourselves. Because I really feel like as a witch, that's what the intention is. It's the awareness of the power that exists outside and like in all things. And so if I'm trying to work with that, manipulate that, have a relationship, build right relationship with that,

It takes first the awareness that it's there. And so I have to tap into that. So I would say that that like for me is probably the core practice that I've been able to incorporate. And again, it's five minutes on my phone. Everybody's got five minutes or make it three minutes, right? You know, if it's in the shower, that's fine, you know, but wherever you feel like you can just...

take a second and connect. And I tell my husband, I'm like, I'm taking my five. And he knows, like, don't bother me. I go do my five and that's it. Yeah. Well, so many things that you said about that. So the first thing is the awareness aspect of it, because it's not as much about being present and

in that moment as much as it's about being and the awareness allows you to continue to have your consciousness awakened and expanded and aware but then also that connectedness to source to spirit what have you and then it's almost as if you give yourself unintentionally or intentionally a little assignment because what you're doing is what i can't remember the exact words that you use but what do i need to know about today or

it sort of reminded me of the Course in Miracles where there's that, where would you have me go? What would you have me say and to whom? Or how may I be in service? So different ways of framing that. But that gives you something because I am, I'm going to rat on myself a little bit or tell myself is that I tend to have a laundry list of things that I want to do that day or that week or what have you. And just because we have that list doesn't necessarily mean that

I need to breathe today or maybe I don't need to go through everything the way that I had it in my mind. So being aware and asking and then following what you receive, I would interpret that too to say intuitive hits to some extent too with that connectedness. It sounds like that's the way that you can step into which energy. Yeah.

Certainly. Yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much for that. Okay. So I forgot that I wrote this down, but I'm glad I did because in my mind I was like, I want to ask her about this. You mentioned oracle cards and deities and working with angels. Are there specific deities, archetypes, or other energies that you and or witches often work with?

I would say for witches specifically, that is like open book. And honestly, anything goes. Like nowadays, I feel like people are starting to assign like deity into like make-believe fantasy characters. But you know what? You're treating it like an egregore and it holds power for you and it holds power over a community. Why not? It's a recognition of that. So when it comes to like working with different mediums, whether it be Oracle decks or tarot decks or angels or, you know, like...

meet any witch and everybody's going to have a different connection. So that I really feel is up to the witch. For me specifically, my two main deities that I work with, and I do choose to work with deity, that was not always the case, but they came knocking, let's say, and

It's been hard to ignore, and I've found many benefits of embracing it fully. The first and foremost being the Morrigan, the Irish phantom queen, goddess of sovereignty and victory in war and prophecy, which also has sort of blended in with some of the psychic awareness, yeah, because she works primarily with prophecy. And so she's a big one that I'm working with. And you said Morrigan? Is that how you pronounce? Okay. Yeah, the Morrigan. The Morrigan, okay. Yeah.

Yeah, she's kind of a collection of many would refer to her as sisters. There are many different forms that she comes in. And so it's hard to just put her into one singular because she's many different things.

but she is from the Irish Pantheon and Irish practice. And then more recently, I was invited to personify King Hades in a production that we did for our Samhain ritual for the community. And that has led down just an incredible relationship that I've been trying to build with King Hades of the underworld, of course, coming from the Greek Pantheon. So very different places. I

And, you know, I've done work with other deities as well. Like I said, I started actually with angel cards was my very first entrance into pretty much everything

any sort of awareness around like, maybe if I pursue this further, I might find some answers. And sure enough, that angel deck is really, really prominent in my practice still. And then I was exposed to working with Bridget from the Irish Pantheon, also known as Saint Bridget for any Catholics listening out there, right? She is also a saint. And I've worked with Hekate, I've worked with

Of course, working with King Hades, you end up by default working with the Droid Queen Persephone, with Odin from the Norse Pantheon. And I've really used a lot of my own background, my own history within my genealogy as a guide for this because I felt connected to it. By no means are you required to have any form of DNA or connection to these CEDs to work with them. But I personally just found that as a beneficial guide, I guess, to starting that work.

But the Morrigan came to me much earlier than my witchcraft practice and then sort of re-entered my life as that began really developing. But yeah, that's for myself, I would say the primary ones that I'm working with. Yeah. And I would say for anyone listening too, if you're drawn to a certain deity or ascended master, archetype, angel, that sort of thing, it

It's either they're in your spirit team, maybe in an alternate life you had and in the culture you lived there or experienced it. I know at some point I'm going to dive into the Greek mythology and deities because they came up a little bit when I was working on the book Looking for Angels.

So I have Zeus in there. One of my dogs name is Zeus. I have no idea right now what it means. I just know, okay, put a pin in that. It's going to happen later when I have time. But I'm sharing this because there's going to be, I believe, a reason.

why you're pulled into that and to your point about it doesn't necessarily mean you at this moment have to have this DNA running through you. There is a reason that you're feeling connected and drawn to learning more or what have you and how that looks. Okay. We also talked a little bit about this too, but I want to dive a deeper into it. What role does community play with witches?

You know, that one, I feel like every reaction I've had has been, I feel the magic. So community, I mean, that again, I would take it back to it really depends on the witch. So many of the witches that we've worked with had the pleasure to work with and as well as people that don't consider themselves witches who come to our community Sabbaths.

A lot of them have practiced solo for years and have been looking for community. I think personally that community can offer such a profound experience in doing magic collectively together in a shared space. That amplification of energy can just be so powerful.

incredible in a group, but it's different from working solo. So some of my most profound experiences were completely by myself at two in the morning in my other room with a really great deck and a scrying ball, right? So it really depends on what you're feeling drawn to. And I think that the need for connection has really been emphasized in recent years with all of the tumultuous life stuff we've had going on

in our world. And so I see a lot of people seeking community and it's very humbling. And I find it an honor to be able to serve the community in such a way that we do where we're providing these ritual Sabbaths.

It's what drew me to really dive into joining a coven and wanting to do that kind of work. I also have a background, admittedly, in production, in film and theater. So it appeased to that as well. But being able to meet so many different types of people simultaneously

seeking connection on a greater level has been incredibly humbling for me. And just to be able to share the meaning of these Sabbaths throughout the year and have these, again, pulses of connection through the entire year, just as an offering really to people. So if you're a witch out there practicing by yourself and you're seeking community, I so strongly encourage, see what's out there because it's,

it can surprise you. I mean, I can't believe how many stores I'm... Stores and places... We operate out of Crescent Moon Gifts in Tacoma, which is a bit of a mega store. They've got so much stuff. But just around that store alone, which is a fabulous resource, there are so many other new places popping up all the time and great places that have been there forever. So the community has a lot to offer. And I would really encourage anyone to just research and

If there isn't anything in your area due to the community itself that surrounds it, like trying to put something together, putting a hangout out, just go meeting up in a park. That's what

We did as the awakened mages that I mentioned earlier, we would just go to the park, sit on a bunch of blankets and talk about hermeticism. It was great. And that can feel like doing magic together. You know, we, and we did at times we, we had a ritual out in like on a beach somewhere for a full moon. It was wonderful, you know, and that was just a group of friends of us that just wanted to talk. So I think, you know, it's, it can be really incredible, but it's by no means a ritual.

like an absolute, you must do this in your witchcraft. I just, I would like 10 out of 10 stars recommend. And technically there's a lot of witchcraft and rituals that happen in religion. Absolutely. Oh yeah. That's a whole nother podcast. Not even one episode, multiple episodes. All I say is like, when you were talking about me, I'm thinking of group prayer and

and energy healing and all the things. But community, I personally feel is extremely important, even if there's something to be said about getting in person, but when you can't, there's also the virtual component of things for sure. Absolutely. Okay. Yes. So what are the biggest myths or misconceptions about the line of work you do, whether that's through the witchcraft aspect of things, astrology, anything in between? Yeah.

Well, I think, you know, it's funny. There's so many layers of misconception, right? Because even within the community itself, there's a lot of like...

you know, wait, you work with them? Like, are you kidding me? Like that's, are you scared? You know, um, you invited what into your house, right? So, uh, there's, I would say there's, I mean, across the board, right. Um, even what we were talking about earlier with astrology, we're like considering it like the weather, a lot of people will use astrology as some sort of an excuse to like, I'm going to just have bad behavior because I've got a cancer boom. Like, give me a break. Yeah.

That's just your attitude. I stopped blaming everything on the moon a long time ago, but it's still, you know. Well, I still do, straight up. Mercury retrograde. I feel like it's always in retrograde. Yes, exactly. It feels that way. Absolutely. Mercury is quite prominent. So, you know, I think, you know, within the community itself, there's a lot of misconception. And I'm going to go back to what I was saying earlier about play and just embrace

embracing the practice without a sense of judgment is really what I have found to serve me best. And that goes for all the different types of witchcraft I've been exposed to where it's like, wow, you do what? I've never heard of that before. And I've thankfully been able to look up many resources and see lots of different types of practices. But all the time, I'm always surprised by different groups and cultural backgrounds as well that play into these things.

So, you know, I would say that everyone is going to come with their own misunderstanding. And when it comes from the outside world, absolutely. There's an element of needing to stay safe as well. As a mother, I'm really concerned with that. So I use a magical name as my public name. I have a totally different private life that I keep very private and off of

the screen because I'm not interested in sharing that with a community that might come with its own preconceptions as well as the community I live in approaching my children with some sort of judgment or prejudice. So,

It's absolutely out there. And I think it'd be foolish to not recognize that. And so, you know, having a sense of holding back necessarily, like you don't need to spill out your entire practice to everybody. When you find out someone else is too, a witch or a magical practitioner or also a psychic, like,

using your, like, don't let that open the floodgates because you don't know who you're working with and where they're coming from. That's not to say, you know, don't have a conversation by all means, but how can we approach these conversations in ways that are more curious instead of judgmental and more open instead of prejudice, right? I think it

it extends far beyond just everybody out there who doesn't get us. Those same tendencies come into our own community. So it's so important to be aware of that and to protect yourself. I'm sure as a psychic, you're having to protect yourself

from all sorts of dimensions, let alone people, let alone, you know, misconceptions. So I think it really extends. It's part of, I think, the human condition in a way where we're trying to observe and categorize and make sense of things. And sometimes that can turn into,

like quite honestly, hate and judgment that looks really ugly. So protect yourselves out there because it's everywhere. But I definitely think across the board, I've definitely been faced with, I mean, even in my own immediate family now, a lot of them, I don't tell what I do at all. They have no idea. I just say, I'm a composer. And that's usually the end of that conversation. Yeah. No, you're right in the fact that this podcast has grown and as listeners across all areas,

In every single country, people would ask me, do you feel like you have to protect yourself or you have to say some sort of prayer or anything before you go into an episode? And I didn't have to. But now what I'm recognizing and realizing is

Is that so much that I share with the show here? I'll find things out later. So an example would be just very quickly, I moved into a house and there's a lot of energy in this house and I could feel ghosts. And it was like the first time I actually had experienced something to that extent. And then after a while, I didn't feel them anymore.

I didn't feel them anymore. And I was like, I tuned into it. I was like, where did they go? Because I didn't sage. I didn't do any. I was thinking about it, but I wanted to sit in the energy of the house and be respectful of who was here before me, who is here after me, all the things. And I'm like, somebody out there.

said a prayer and got rid of them or cleared my house without me. You know what I mean? So now I'm having to reverse that. So I share that because that's one very specific example, but you're right. Like we don't know what we open ourselves up to all the time, but it's about what I'm hearing you say is some of those misconceptions out there is that go into things eyes wide open and you don't have to share everything.

and wear your heart on a sleeve and you can be intentional about that. But also I do feel like we're divinely protected as well. Um, so whatever that can look like for you too. Um, okay. All right. So we ran out of time to talk about nurturing psychic awareness in children, but maybe we can have you back on, um, the other podcast to talk about this more in detail, but before we completely go away from that, cause I want to make sure I give you some time to

discuss a little bit briefly, is there anything that you would recommend to caretakers of psychic or intuitive children? Oh yeah, absolutely. And that is it's remain open, remain nonjudgmental. You don't have to buy into every single thing. I mean, children are imaginative. They're fanciful. My son makes up some of the funniest stories, you know, but then,

there are times when it's like, oh, like there's a thread there. I might just pull on that a little bit. And what I try to do is approach it openly, but with a bit of a scientific like,

let's pry this apart a little bit. And it's not coming from a place of, oh, well, you didn't see that because that doesn't make sense. It's more like, well, what did they look like to you? Like gathering more data. And if they're able to articulate, and now granted my oldest is three, so very young. But as they get older, I mean, I've seen this really be a benefit to him because it's not coming from this place of mom doesn't trust me. Mom is judging what I'm doing. I can't tell mom what's going on.

I want to be able to open the space for that conversation, similar to how my own father was able to do that with me. And let's just talk about it in an open way. Let's just discuss it and know more. And I'm going to ask questions and clarify a few things. And I don't have to come from this place of, oh, well, you're just making that up.

Or, oh, that's such a funny story. If that's something that's happening that's real to them, that's worth noting. They're choosing to share it with you as a parent or as a trusted adult for a reason. And maybe it's as simple as they just want to share, but isn't that a beautiful thing? So cultivating that space to share openly, I think is so important.

and coming to it from that place of openness and just asking questions. Just listen. Just be open and listen to what they have to say because it is pure magic. And that's been my guiding principle in these younger years. And we'll see how it develops, of course, as they get older, if they end up doing that. But they're growing up, thankfully, in a much more open household

that is aware and discussing these things, you know? And so it'll be interesting to see where that goes. And I'm here for the ride. And it's such a gift when adults can do that, whether you're a teacher or you're a parent or again, any other sort of caretaker. So yes, absolutely. Okay. And then finally, before we get to where people or how people can connect with you or learn more about your offerings, what's one truth you wish every aspiring witch knew about their own power?

It is not going to look like what you think and what others look like as well. It's going to look totally individual to you. So approach that with openness and no judgment. Truthfully, it's going to look different and it's not going to be what you expect. I keep hearing that. So that must be something I need to take and reflect in my own life too. Okay. All right. So now for real, where can people connect with you or learn more about your offerings? Where should they go?

Thank you. Yeah. So you can find out all of my astrology offerings. I do offer readings as well as recorded readings, as well as all of the music I'm currently composing on conawinmore.com. That's C-A-W-N-A-W-Y-N-M-O-R.com. And so that has everything, frankly. Also how to connect with me on social media. I am across YouTube and Instagram and TikTok, mostly posting a lot of music and sometimes astrology content, but yeah.

uh, and a lot of witchcraft content. If you're interested. Thank you so much. Well, I'll be sure to include everything in the show notes. I've appreciated our time together. Thank you so much for coming on a psychic story. Thank you so much for having me. This is a fabulous conversation.

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