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Today's episode is about how one man trick the entire tech industry to burning billions of dollars based on nothing. You may remember a time in twenty twenty one when everybody was talking about the matter of us, the so called successes to the internet that was used by mark rocket book to read me facebook, taking the heat off of a name associated with abusing its customers and misusing their data. IT was meant to be a completely digital world.
We lived in maybe IT was A V R. space. That we socialized in was IT.
We are space we worked in. Was that a virtual world? Wasn't there something to with crypto? If you're finding all of this confusing, we have something in common.
We need to go back to twenty twenty one to really work out what the hell went on the interviewing mark rockburg for the virgin july to twenty twenty one. Casey newton referred to the diverse as a maximum list interconnected set of experiences, straights out of sight. I, again, that means nothing.
But nevertheless, that's what he chose to publish a few months later when renaming the company facebook to meter. Mark socker g referred to the matter us as a more immersive embodied net where you're in the experience, not just looking at them in the multiple interviews he's given. Since socket has spent thousands of words makely suggesting the matter us is everything from a chat room to virtual reality to, and I quote, a hybrid between the social platforms that we see today, but in an environment where you are embodied IT.
In fact, a one point, mark ochberg said the matter with transition from being seen as a social media company to being a metaverse company, or without ever saying really what the metaverse was, and his descriptions veered from saying IT was a social network to a virtual reality game, to something that was part of web three, which was the term used by crypto currency convertible to sell you some sort of decentralized, block chain based thing. In reality, matters met of us was far more boring. They would only ever release two media conventual experiences for the quest and oculus head sense, one for socializing called horizon worlds and another for work called inventively horizon workroom.
What kind of felt luck? A con at the media in the tech industry Crystalized around IT with this strange frenzy, excitement. Look, at the time, I didn't know you, you weren't listening to this podcast, but if you felt like you were being swindled, you should have been, believe your ears, believe your eyes.
Mark uc. Berg renamed a trillion dollar company and hype an idea that he could not describe, and then he sent the entire techy go system into a years long panic attack, resulted in billions of dollars being wasted on non existent ideas. At the time, I was one of the loan voices decrying that made up Better of us. I was screaming into the voice that despite all of this press, all of this hype, nobody, not the journalist, not the investors, not mark zuck burg, could actually describe what the met avers was. Zac berg would go on to burn tens of billions of dollars investing in research and development, allegedly building the matter of us.
And multiple startups would claim that they now entered the matter of us, only to end up ditching the idea toward the end of twenty twenty two and early twenty twenty three as interest rates tightened and tech stocks began to suffer, eventually entering what zuko g would call the year of efficiency, which was code for laying off thousands of people and refocusing meta on artificial intelligence after seeing how well ChatGPT was doing. I've always been an anti met of us, mostly because nobody could tell me what I was. In fact, in may twenty twenty three, I wrote a piece of business insider declaring the of us dead, something which pissed off him swing the year of epic games, the developers fortnight, who then, quote, tweet, IT.
With this kind of sarcastic indignation, I will now attempt to do tim swing, his voice, the universe is dead, rote swee name, who was definitely not upset with me. Let's no online wake so that we six hundred million monthly active users in fortnight, minecraft row blocks, pub g, sandbox and V, R, track and more. Its passing together in real time, three day.
I think that's how he sounds. Look, tim, you're wrong. I'm right. The met of us was dead. And by met of us, I mean the ugly butcher user's scam perpetuate in public where companies like epic snapped a new logo on something old and tried to claim that was the future.
What sween is describing are actually video games, video games that have existed for outputs of a decade that were never once referred red to as part of the metaverse, despite this being a 9 term from my book。 And it's just ridiculous because these people never use this term before until IT helped them sell crap to investors. Whether or not the met of verse may actually exist one day in material to the fact that this was one of the largest and most conspicuous s i've ever seen and nobody has been held accountable.
Nevertheless, the matter us does actually mean something just kind of a pain in the ass to explain, even for the truest of met averse believer. S IT isn't really an easy thing to define in twenty twenty two eye of my own relation, for whatever reason, decided to travel to santa clara, california to attend the augmented world expo tech conference about mixed and virtual reality. And of course, now the matter us.
This conference is that existed for a quite a long time I had been before, but before I was around things that existed like a and they are augmented reality, meaning that something you put over your face, perhaps like the vision pro, or we are like the oculus headsets and quest had sets. The matter was already selling without mentioning the matter of us. And I remember, despite spending days surrounded by people discussing the matter verse, talking about the metaverse, walk around boots that said, meet diverse on them, trying products that are were apparently the metaverse, and having jury conversations about what the metaverse could be, I couldn't get a consistent or compelling definition of what a meet of us actually was.
Okay, let me give to go there depending on the person. The met averse is a virtual space where you live or it's a video game, or it's a virtual al reality experience, or it's a filter on your camera that makes you look like a dog. This is how varied the media's description was of what the metaverse was.
IT was basically anything that involve the real world being kind of masked by digital things. If you watched mox ochberg october twenty twenty one video, you might believe it's a virtual world that encompasses your senses, a fully sensory experience that the kind you'd honest clients, horrible book, ready play one. Now you may be thinking that's not technically possible.
I would be completely enough, right? The conceptual ambiguity, of course, and the fact that a lot of the stuff people talking about just wasn't possible and still isn't today, didn't stop many, many companies from cashing in, raising hundreds of millions of dollars investors to build products that did not and probably could not exist in an industry called the most of us, that nobody, not the investors, not the founders, could actually describe. Let me give you some examples.
But there, a company that raised over sixty million dollars that, according to take brunch, did so to create a meet of us for Jenny to play and interact with each other. I've downloaded bud. I've looked at what, but is they don't mention the matter verse anymore.
It's actually a microtron action rid LED iphone APP that lets you visit other people's very generic looking spaces. I used to review massively multiplayer online R P J S like world Walker and things like that. I've seen one hundred million of these things, versions of what bud does have existed for a long, long time.
Then there's another company trip that's T R I P P. Because why name things? Normally they raise twenty six point three million dollars to create a stood, and I quote, to power a mindful metaverse and said, made of us is community driven in practice.
It's a viral reality APP that shows you these weird, trippy visions, though you would imagine seeing in A P. S. A for drug bears in the nineties. They cost ten, twenty dollars. It's very strange that this company raised that much money, and nobody has done the due diligence to actually follow up with them and asked them what the hell of meta verse was and why IT justify these massive valuations. Each one of these problems filled multimillion dollar metaverse companies was incapable of describing themselves outside of using concussion grade buz words.
They are good reason too, though, if they used real words that meant things you might catch on, and indeed, their very stupid investors might catch on, that they were trying to sell you things that already existed. And I think that, that is really at the heart of the metaverse boom and why everyone is so. So vae, about the definition of the matter s because being specific reveals that is a huge con used by the tech industry to pretend that they're innovating, for starters, for any definition of the met averse to make sense or to have any actual value, you really have to remove gaming entirely from the conversation.
Otherwise you can't cheating. If you're gonna consider fortnight or row blocks, go to them out of us, you kind of have to consider a world of warcraft and ultimate line or any other avatar base game that ever existed. A part of the matter us, at which point isn't the man of us just chat rooms? Isn't the matter of us just computer games?
If that's the case, how is this a multitrillion dollar industry? The matter us isn't the future if it's just different international of talking to people using a digital lavatory, that's the actual present. sure.
Maybe it's worth trillion dollars or three trillion dollars or however much the video game industry is. But that's a ridiculous way of looking at this if the metaverse exists in the way they say IT does. Charity existed decades ago.
What's interesting about this is despite all of the conversation about the universe being this giant, interconnected world where people can get together and they don't look like themselves. Maybe you don mous, despite all of that rosie mckinsey grade bullshit, there's been worries about the massive vely multiplayer online R P G industry, which is world of warcraft and its ilg declining for quite a while. In fact, IT has been slowing down, overtaken by a number of different free to play games on phones and councils.
It's still going out. There are still tens of millions of players playing these games. But if you're saying the matter of verse is talking to friends on fortnight, then really twitter and blue sky the universe two, because I talk to friends on there all the time and some of them have pictures the aunt of their actual faces, and that's the thing.
If your definition of the universe is whatever is useful at the time, you just a politician, you're not the software developer, you're not to take founder. You're a fucking in liar. In early to two thousand, twenty two people were calling microsoft seventy five billion dollar acquisition of call of duty and world of warcraft developer activision blizz quote metaverse related.
Now this was really frustrating because it's kindly like saying that piece is a competitive to diet code because both of them are liquids. You can't just say something is like the other thing because you wanted to be that way. You actually have to prove that the existence of interaction in a virtual world wasn't the metaverse before, but IT got turned as such because, and really only because, billions of dollars got invested in the matter, us.
And they needed something, anything, to point out and say, look, look, this exists. This is real. IT worked before. Please don't ask too many more questions. Tim sweeney of epic argument, the one I previously referred to, that the meet of us isn't dead because people play robo ks or four nine only makes sense if you define the matters in the broadest way possible.
And it's an argument that I hate to say kind of has some way considering the definitional fuzziness of the of us, but that also allows people who beg them of us to point to literally anything and call IT the meet of us, and then use that as proof that the metaverse is destroy for greatness is I message. The metaverse was I R C. The earliest chat room function of the internet, the most of us was aim I violence. The messenger was that the man of us.
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What the hell is the matter of us? IT just all kind of feels like bullshit. 40 and robo ks have succeeded, not because they are both enjoyable spaces to hang out in, but because they're accessible, they're easy to play. You don't need a confluent tutorial if friends can take you out to play, or you can just walk out as kind of demonstrate by their extremely Young demographic.
S now it's kind of hard to find verifiable h da for these tiles, but one survey published twenty twenty one set up, the ten to twenty eight group has the highest percentage people have played a proto metaverse game, which includes titles like mine raft 4 row blocks。 Now you may hear that's like that, and think j is, this might be the future. This is the present.
This ship is existed for five to ten years. Anyone telling you the matter of is the future? It's just trying to pretend they were part of the past, laughing their faces and give them the finger.
And I fully disagree that fortnight is a space for hanging out. It's a game. It's a game that simple enough to play that you can play around in IT and have a conversation.
And if you won't plan IT, you'd probably call the people or face time that are some other form of thing. There were some ious articles around the time of the met of us, about fortnight being the new place where kids hang out and play together. And what pisses me off about that is the same thing that pisses me off about the metaverse in general.
In the it's have been playing video games online a while. They've been using headsets a while. These things already existed, a mox zog book, and his cronies, such in the delay of microsoft, as i'll get to tim sweeney of epic, all of these people trying to claim that this was the future and that they were part of him.
They were doing so to pump up their stock failures, to make IT easier to sell their stock. In the case of epic, it's all quite laughable and is extremely cynical. Now fortnight, of course, had a concert in them from performance traffic, Scott.
And when I say the concert, I kind of mean it's this sweetly rendered three d version of travel. Scott looks like an x box three sixty game, and IT was performed to twelve point three million players at once. I was defined as a breakthrough moment for the meet of us, and allegedly was the demonstration of its potential in the entertainment space.
Except that's really just an online game, an online game with instances because you didn't have twelve point three million people in one place, you had groups of them in the same way that fortnight did the n experiment of a new star wars movie involving a plot point that you needed to make sense of. The third new star wars movie is quite messy, but in both of these cases, these were just three are exhibits watching this live kind of had no point to IT you want interacting the travel scope, flipping off the ma as you could, didn't do anything. These were just rolling demos where you happen to be surrounded red by other people who didn't know what the health to do with themselves.
These things, these experiences, are immersive in the same way that most video games are. You focus on a point and you're not really doing anything else and pass that is just fucked in drab. This is the future, going through a weird Walker le towards travel, Scott, with a bunch of people drop up and down trying to work out what I held the doing there.
This is the future. This is the man of us being able to watch with stuff flying around you in a video game. Cool, I guess. And that feels like the present now kind of feels like shit. And the problem was that the majority of these metaverse companies just seemed totally lost as far as what the metaverse was, why a consumer should use, and in many cases, how they should use them.
Yeah, in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, these companies got billions of dollars a funding by slapped, met aversa, decentralized on everything dealie ed, in this case referring to using a block chain decentralized to do a thing. Usually was, this is how companies like sky, Mavis axy infinity, raised one hundred and fifty two million dollars at a three billion dollar valuation for egypt to currency power browser based pokemon clone that cost hundreds of dollars to play. And then they invented a new kind of loan shock, where people would loan you the money to buy your axe to stop the game, and then you'd be some kind of servant for them.
They then got hacked by north korea. This will be a future episode, don't worry, companies like sky Mavis are not the only ones. This meet of us boom started in october twenty twenty one, which is the thick of the post lockdown crypto currency boom.
And they took a advantage of the general thu zz ess to cn people into investing in more crypto currency bullshit, the block chain and the associated ponzi scheme nonsense. That followed was a recurring theme within many of the first metaverse. Companies, non function gable tokens, N, F, T, Z, you might know them.
We're essentially a mechanism, the claim to demonstrate ownership of a digital asset. And they were touted as a way to handle virtual real state during this metaverse boom. There were tons of articles about this claiming that people were selling fifty million dollars of metaverse real less day.
Nobody cares anymore. It's all. And indeed, many other metaverse companies were also decentralized. Quote web three businesses, a serious name for the centralized blockchain software that barely worked.
And these companies just printed money, not literally they maintain their encrypt ta currencies, which they then put metaverse on top of which can't retail investors into purchasing these things, things like viral and viral homes and viral items to put in the viral homes. This all sound stupid at the time. Yeah, places like the new york times in the wall street journal, we're doing whole articles about how important IT was.
In reality, the metaverse was a cynical con that help rich people get richer at times of the back of retail investors that still believe that crypt to currency was meaningful and would never crash again. Yet the entire tech industry worked to deliberate. The term met of us in a way that kinder echoes the empty height you're seeing around arta facial intelligence today.
And I kind Operate in the same way too. They took a technology that already existed, and then they massively overstated what I could do in the future. And I haven't even got a meter or the general state of virtual and mixed reality. Nowhere was the corn more on, I guess, until IT wasn't then at one a hacked away where I believe mark uc. Burg lives. In early february twenty to twenty three, the wall street journal pointed to the matters healthy q four numbers where its stock Price jumped by twenty percent, thereby reinstating its membership in the club of companies with a market capitalization over one trillion dollars.
As proof that met at ahad, and I quote, finally figured out how to sell the meet of us, the journal pointed to meta reality labs division, which houses the company's meet to verse efforts, which made of a one billion dollars in revenue for the first time, driven primarily by healthy holiday sales of matters quest 3 virtuality。 He had said that was the big sign that the metaverse was fine, except IT wasn't. That's a fifth of matters, forty billion dollar q four revenue.
So are roughly a sick of the amount of money that reality labs burned with the unit making a four point six five billion dollar loss, which was its highest on record. And in the case of virtual reality in general, is still a very early stage technology. Most headsets, including the latest oculus inquest devices, which matter, of course, makes, are still uncomfortable, clunky and still buggy, more so than the vision pro.
They not immersive, and they routinely make people feel a kind of physical sickness, which is not ideal. And that as flagship met of us, title horizon wells is still ugly and awkward and nobody uses IT multiple articles have now come up where people just can't find other people to meet in matters is also confusing. And horizon is so obviously inferior to zoom, microsoft teams or any other form of modern communication.
The the only reason to use IT is to be upset or get sick or not at your colleagues, which I can do for free using my web. Came over zoom and of course matter obviously knows this because in early twenty twenty three leaked documents obtained by the virtuous alex heath revealed the only one in ten horizon worlds users returned after trying the title for the first time since its launch. Horizon words and I really hate this is the flagship metaverse title from the world's most vocal metaverse company called meter that renamed itself to matter because of the matter, us.
Razon world has continued to share its monthly active users to the point where IT just kind of feels like a mass market open grave. Nobody is there. It's worse than empty mall because you can kind of see what people would buy there.
It's just negative space and all of this is just a stunning fall from Grace considering the capital, both reputation or monetary, that's not about pumped into IT. When mark zark berg announced in twenty twenty one that facebook would rebrand a meter, he claimed that the metaverse would be the future of the internet. The glitzy spicious promotional video that he used alongside the naming change described this future where we would be able to interacts seamlessly and virtual worlds, users would make eye contact and feel like they were in the room together.
The metaverse offered people the chance to engage in an immersive experience, and this was what marx za burg promised. And these are bold claims that are, of course, totally unfulfilled. And i'd argue they are never going to be.
A functional business proposition requires a few things to thrive and grow, but of all, a clear use case and a target audience, and then, of course, the willingness of customers to adopt the product. Zk berg wax poetic about the matter of us as a vision that spends many companies and claimed IT was the successor to the mobile internet. Yet he failed to articulate basic business problems that the matter of us would address.
Absolutely nothing underpinned maxara burgs promises about the matter of us. And IT still is ill defined then as IT is now. And yet executives, investors decided that I just didn't matter, that the matter us didn't mean anything, because, of course, money could be made. Microsoft C E O saying a della would say at the company's twenty twenty one ignite conference that he and I quote, could not overstate how much of a breakthrough the universe was for his company, the industry and of course, the world.
As mentioned earlier, microsoft seventy five point four billion dollar acquisition of activision blizz was described by microsoft in interviews as a metaverse play rather than a major player in the gaming sphere, acquiring some of the world's most believable, profitable franchise like call of duty, tony hawk bled for craft the loan, many others created by activation. Row blocks, an online platform that I mentioned earlier, one of the most popular with kids in the world right now, up there with fortnight, has existed since two thousand and four, but wrote the metaverse hide wave to take itself public. The IPO raised at a forty one billion dollar valuation at the time of writing this script.
Its market cap is now twenty seven point and six three billion, a far cry from its debt and a fraction of its pandemic era peek when the company was worth seventy eight billion dollars. important. Know about your blocks Better away. They've never made a profit kind of a big problem in the business industry.
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Even businesses that seem to have very little to do with tech jumped on board walmart join the metaverse by creating a robo ks experiences that they would eventually shut down less than a year later. Disney created their own metaverse division in early twenty twenty two, only to lay them all off in march twenty twenty three, in twenty twenty four this day, would then invest one and a half billion dollars.
The metaverse lovers, epic games, you know, the makers of fortnight, and I quote, they did so to collaborate on an all new games and entertainment universe that will further expand the reach of beloved disney stories and experiences in an epic four nine. The word meet of us is never used. In twenty twenty two, the consulting firm gartner claimed twenty five percent of people would spend at least an hour a day in the meet to verse by twenty twenty six.
A year later, they changed their tune, publishing a document that described in stock detail both consumer and business apathy toward the man of us, as well as its fundamental technological limitations, which is said couldn't be remedy in the short term. At least gartner wasn't alone. The wall street journal said the met avers could change the way we work forever.
The global consulting firm machinery predicted that metaverse could generate after five trillion dollars in value by two thousand thirty, adding that around a ninety percent of business leaders expected the met of us to positively impact their industry within five to ten years. Not to be outdone, city put out a massive report that declared the man of us would be a thirteen trillion dollar opportunity. But twenty thirty, I must be clear, most of these reports are bullshit.
Most of them are based on them. Just guessing they will judge these numbers to mess with you. They are lying to you if you see a min organ, a report, and it's quoting an x by y year thing, a thirteen trillion by two and thirty, laughing up.
Walk away. They are fucking with you. They are doing this to corn investors and by proxy, you. And despite all of this hype, the why was always absent from the discussions of the metaverse potential, particularly went talking about anything that wasn't a video game. Well, I failed to see the distinction between the nap g like called the world craft request, and a so called metaverse game like robo ks, or fortunately, I can gonna be gauging ly concede that a virtual workplaces, conceptually distinct ough to have its own name. That doesn't mean it's a good idea or worthwhile, though in many respects, all of this metaverse al hype illustrates a detachment of the sea sweet from the people who actually do work.
The fact that both sechin, a delay of microsoft, a mox ocbc of meta, believed, or what have had you believed, the ordinary office workers want to hold meetings in virtual rooms while wearing A V, R headset, strongly suggest they haven't met a person in quite some time. Billions, literally billions of dollars, could have been saved by mark zc berg asking one of his programmes or one of his add sales people if they wanted to go work in a kind of low rent copy of second life that sucked even more. And i'd know what I said, no, is not keep mental, except we all know the truth.
X cc book didn't give a shit about anyone actually using this. He needed some air cover to get over facebooks crisis history, and he knew that the media and investors would drink down whatever slop he had prepared for them. I'm not sure if you remember, in twenty twenty one and twenty twenty two, money was much easier to find.
Consumer spending was up, every stock was up, everything was selling. Everyone I knew was doing pretty well, unlike twenty, twenty, when everyone kind of crush back down to earth. I actually think the meet of verse com would have gone on a lot longer had the zero interest free economy, which all attack in a later episode, not fall in the palm.
In short, though, there was a time when investors, in particularly venture capitalists, could get money and much, much lower rights. One might even say zero percent. Sadly, reality would come for the markets, and in turn would kill, invest, specious dreams of the met of us.
Early twenty twenty three was a rough time for everybody. Microsoft shuttered its virtual workspace platform, all space V R in january twenty twenty three, and then laid off the hundred people who worked at the industrial metaverse statement. microsoft.
They then made a series of cuts to its holds team, which was the augmented reality glass, the most people of kind of forgotten in september twenty twenty three. Mister metaverse himself, him sweeney, an epic would lay off eight hundred and thirty people, attributing IT to there. And I quote, unrealistic metaverse ambitions.
Several months off to my article, I should add the billions of dollars invested around this half bike concept that the thousands, if not tens of thousands, losing their jobs, and the metaverse s savior would also be the one to ultimately kill them. Meta mark ZARA burg would declare in a march company update that meta single largest investment would be advancing autistic al intelligence and building IT into of their products. Metz chief technology officer Andrew w. Boz boz worth told CNBCNA223。
He, along with mark zai g and the company's chief product officer, Chris cox, when now spending most of their time on artificial intelligence, the company even stopped pitching the met, averse to its advertisers, despite spending more than one hundred billion dollars in research and development on its mission to be, and I quote, metaverse first, while mark eckbert sometimes suggest the metaverse isn't dead by simply telling you that they are developing things to their headsets and the people are making games for the quest, the right is on the wall. Matters done with the matter of us. I don't believe for a second moxa bug ever really had any interest in IT either because he never seem to be able to define the matter of us beyond a slightly tweet facebook.
With avatars and composing hardware, the metaverse was a means to an increase share Price rather than any real vision for the future or the future of human interaction. And maxara bug used this outsized wealth and power to get the half of the tech industry and a good portion of the american business world in line behind him and behind this half baked corn. The fact that mark zuker burg is clearly stepped away from the metaverse is a fairly damming and ditech of everyone who followed him.
Anyone who still consider him a visionary tech leader. IT should also be the cause for some serious reflection among the the venture capital community, which recklessly followed maxara bug into blowing billions of dollars on a hype cycle founded on the flimsiest possible pressure. Lease language in adjust world mark zuck g should be fired A C A of matter.
Yet in the real world, this is literally impossible due to the corporate structure of the company, zuko misled everyone, earn billions of dollars, convinced an industry of followers to submit to the stupid session, and then killed IT. The second that another idea started to interest wall state, there's no reason that the man who has overseen the layoff, tens of thousands of people, should run a major company. And there is no future, for matter, with mark OK bog at the home, mark my words, IT will stagnate.
The time has come for online advertising and for facebooks, only way of making money. And then you will die and follow metaverse into the grave of oxo c dog. While the idea of virtual worlds or collective online experiences may live on in some formal actually exist already, the capital m met of us is quite dead, and its desk should be remembered as arguably one of the most historic failures in tech history in historic global con that contributed to society y's mistrust of the tech industry at large.
The metaverse is always bothered me. IT bothered me back twenty, twenty one. And IT bothers me today. IT was so clearly spacious.
Reporters talking to max ZARA burg aid up the slope, and d helped him fill in the gaps when he clearly had not thought about this concept much further than he needed to, to give a corporate demonstration of nothing. The metaverse is an example of media weakness. When IT comes to the powerful, these people have to be treated with suspicion.
When they can't fill in the gaps, you ouldn't fill them in for them. In fact, you should push them further and further and further. Every interview with max ochberg should be uncomfortable.
IT should be inhospitable. Right now, moxa kb is trying to sell the vision that meta is an artificial intelligence company. Multiple reporters have talked to him about this, and i'm calling upon members of the media to stop giving him interviews like this. It's time to push back. It's time to push back on people like mark docker g that cannot tell the truth, that cannot reveal the actual agendas.
If we people speaking into microphones, into people speaking to the powerful, into people who have to know this industry and tell other people about IT, if our job involves talking to these powerful, ultra rich, ult, influential men, our real job is to ask them questions. That is simple, like, hey, man, you renate your company. You renamed IT because of this one thing.
What is that? What does IT mean? And when they fail to give a code answer, the response should be value IT should be discussed IT should be perhaps not an absence ity, but something a Jason to one.
There is no space to give people like mark zuck burg further power. They don't need further fuel. They already have IT. The meet of us was the creation of mark october's power, that he could say one vae thing, billions of dollars .
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As a result, we must criticize these people. We must do so loudly and proudly and aggressively.
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