Congressman Brad Knott Exposing Biden’s Deliberate Border Crisis
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Our first guest up today, Congressman Brad Knott, serving his first term representing North Carolina's 13th congressional district, serves on judiciary, transportation and infrastructure and the Homeland Security committees. He also has a background in law enforcement, working alongside them to put criminals in jail as a prosecutor. Congressman Brad Knott, welcome to the program.

Thank you both. It's great to be with you. Great. Congressman, I'm going to start with just two questions, which I think, you know, as Liam Neeson said in Take In, you have a particular skill set for, and they're legal questions. So the first one is this. Donald Trump has revoked the security clearance for Perkins Coal, the Democratic National Committee law firm. These are the ones that gave us the Russian collusion hoax, did all this shenanigans with election law. Why would they have a security clearance to begin with?

I mean, when you and just explain to our audience what this is and why it was done. I don't think they understand because the press will make it seem like it's some dictator move. But explain why they had a security clearance, why it was taken away and why all presidents have this authority. That's a great that's a great question. And I don't want to disappoint you or the audience. But to be honest, I have no idea why they had a security clearance because I wasn't privy.

It does issuances, but one can look at the kind of circumstantial evidence of it and see that they obviously had access to individuals who had top secret security clearances, such as the candidate then, which was Hillary Clinton and her team. She was obviously fresh off of a term of being secretary of state.

She had access to all materials as it relates to the intelligence community and top secret, very sensitive information. And we know now that the Russia collusion narrative was a very intricate and detailed conspiracy of sorts to essentially facilitate the investigation into then candidate and subsequently president Donald Trump.

And the law firm was obviously integral in various ways, the depth of which we don't really know. But there was, at the very least, counsel as to how best to utilize information, some of which was absolutely false, right? Some was absolutely false, leaving in this narrative that –

was used as a predicate to receive the highest level of intrusion under the Fourth Amendment. They used a FISA warrant, essentially, to surveil and to wiretap the campaign of President Trump. And this narrative obviously spun out of control. It went on through his presidency. There was rumors. There were statements. There were conclusive statements.

that were made that Donald Trump was in cahoots with President Putin. And the danger of that is hard to overstate. Obviously, there's great tension between the United States and Russia. There's great risk towards escalating contact, I mean, conflict between these two nations. And the narrative that was spun out of a fictitious campaign ploy could have

could have had drastic and dire consequences. And the president, in his position, has the right to deny security clearances to individuals who he believes pose a threat to the country if they receive those briefings and that information. And based off of their prior association and their conduct, that law firm is not worthy of having the security clearances that they had previously. So I

I think he was perfectly within his right to do so, and now that the clearances have been revoked, the attorneys in that firm who worked with the Clinton campaign can no longer receive the information that they were once privy to. That's great. Congressman, in that regard, I mean, you're talking about, with Russiagate, a conspiracy that the perpetrators knew very well was not legitimate. They pursued it through an impeachment trial. Was Perkins Coie and these law firms...

In my view, that would cross the line almost into being an attempted coup. I'm curious if you see it that way. You know, it's...

As a prosecutor, I'm very cautious to opine with legally weighty terms. But there is absolutely deficiencies in the process. The ones that I received the most consternation from are the affidavits that were submitted by the FBI to the FISA court.

which is overseen by the chief judge on the Supreme Court. And they used clearly and demonstrably false information in the affidavits submitted to that court to gain the authorization to surveil political opponents. And

If that had happened in one of my investigations, if I had submitted false information, if I had submitted false information knowingly, I would absolutely be prosecuted. No question about it. And my law license would have been terminated. The law enforcement agents who submitted the information to me and then by extension to the court, they would have been terminated. Their right to testify in court would have been forever rescinded. And

and they would likely be prosecuted as well. There is grave, grave consequences in law enforcement, and I would submit appropriately so. When you submit something as true to essentially utilize very, very pervasive tools in the law enforcement war chest to penetrate into sensitive information that is protected by the Fourth Amendment of the Constitution.

There should be dire consequences if you abuse the trust of the court, if you utilize false information to gain that doorway, so to speak, and

Whatever role Perkins Coie used in or whatever role they played in effectuating that, that needs to be fleshed out. And unfortunately, lawyers and bureaucrats are experts, experts at creating smoke screens and utilizing language that's confusing and diverting blame and having all of these processes in place that enable them to wait out any type of investigation.

But it's a point of focus that we need to we need to turn the lights on, so to speak. Well, with Congressman Brad Knott, he represents the great people of North Carolina 13th District. You were a former federal prosecutor for the Eastern District of North Carolina. There is, as I get my subscription emails daily from The Atlantic and New York Times, and today this is what triggered me, and I'm glad you're on the show, today's New York Times article.

Is there a day you're not triggered by your morning news feature? Yeah, but this is what they're doing now. So the New York Times today, if Trump ignores the courts, then what? Is there any real example where Donald Trump ignored the courts, Congressman? Like in any situation, the first term or currently, where he ignored the courts, even when he was challenging the election and all the people he had pointed to the bench all ruled against him. Did he ever ignore the courts?

Right. The left is candidly losing their mind right now. And I was privileged to be in the chamber when President Trump delivered his joint address, basically a State of the Union address.

And the majority of the Democratic Party right now, not all of them, let me be clear, but the majority of the Democratic Party right now are aimless, they're angry, and they are trying to find something that sticks.

And, you know, this faux outrage that they are purveying is very damaging. You know, there's a prime example of someone in the White House who did ignore the courts on numerous occasions. And that was, of course, the Biden-Harris administration. Whether it was the Supreme Court who ruled that various actions that they were taking were illegal, that proved to be no impediment to the Biden administration's activist stance.

presidency. And I'm referring, of course, to the student loans. I'm referring additionally to violating legal precedent with the mass temporary legal status admissions to millions of illegal aliens. So there's one administration who did not adhere to the course instruction or to the traditions and decorum of legal precedent. It was Joe Biden and Kamala Harris. And

And right now, rather than worrying about the Trump administration and what they are trying to achieve, we should be worrying about the judicial activism that we are seeing all over the country. I mean, we are seeing a several hundred percent increase in

in the nationwide injunctions from district federal judges, which really doesn't have much precedent unless your name is Donald Trump. So the fiat of the judicial tyranny, that's a real problem that we should discuss in great detail. But to answer your question in a roundabout way, Donald Trump has always been

submitted to the court's rulings. He has played ball fairly, and I trust he'll continue to do so. But right now, I would submit that the courts are the ones that are abusing their authority, not the president.

You know, in that line, you're talking about these activist judges, some of the district courts that are making these decisions. We're seeing the impact in presidential politics and in national politics. But how much is that affecting people who do the job you used to do as a prosecutor also? Because these same sort of don't care about the past precedent, really driven by ideology, it seems like they're making a lot of decisions which are putting Americans at risk at every level.

You know, it's a good question. And, you know, I was fortunate to maintain some level of autonomy when I was a prosecutor. Where you really see a drop-off is when you start to stock federal agencies with ideologues as opposed to individuals who are mission-focused. And, of course, I don't want to speak in absolute terms. There are exceptions to every statement that I'm making. Sure.

The presidency and the executive branch has been controlled by Obama and Biden for 12 of the last 16 years. And that has resulted in a massive, massive transformative hiring expedition and plugging into various positions, whether it be federal prosecutors or bureaucrats, of very leftist individuals. And when you put someone in a prosecutor's role,

who wants to defund the police or who thinks that America is systemically racist or who thinks it is unwise or unfair to go after people who break the law in an aggressive way, not an abusive way, but an aggressive way. You prosecute the most serious crime that the evidence supports. That's not abusive. That is aggressive. And that's what a prosecutor should do. But when you have a massive influx of people who are against that very basic tenet, uh,

There is a there is a huge, huge decrease in the quality and the quantity of federal law enforcement. And that's when we start to see this this tremendous trickle down of crime, of lawlessness, of, you know, waves of illegal immigration, whatever it may be. So the leftist ideology has been felt in real ways because of the people who are who have been placed in charge.

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Welcome back to Breaking Battlegrounds with yours, Chuck Warren and Sam Stone. On the line with us, Congressman Brad Knott represents North Carolina's 13th Congressional District. He is a former federal prosecutor. Congressman, right before we went to break, we're talking a little bit about some of the impacts of the courts. But one of the other great failings, quite frankly, of the Biden administration, and perhaps it is not a failing,

is what has happened over his term with illegal immigration, throwing the floodgates open. Was that a mistake or was that a deliberate attempt by the Biden administration to change the fabric of this country?

You know, that's a very prescient question. My role as a federal prosecutor was prosecuting organized crime. Organized crime touches everything. Obviously, we know about drug trafficking, cartels, gang members. We know about human trafficking, which was one of the most harrowing things I had to investigate and experience.

And then we investigated things like organized retail theft, which many people may not know, but it's a $10-plus billion-a-year problem. Medicaid fraud. Organized crime touches everything you can think of. And because of that, I went to just about every corner of the country in some form or fashion. Cases of mine touched California to New York City.

And immediately upon Joe Biden's taking the oath of office, and I mean immediately, it was one of the first priorities of his administration. Every policy that Donald Trump had in place, which

which had secured the border, which had reversed decades of open border policy, whether it was remain in Mexico, whether it was enforcing the law as it relates to the asylees trying to get into the country. You know, very common sense thing, just simple enforcement, the border wall construction.

every one of them was halted, every single one of them. And further, people within the administration, Department of Justice, who were solely focused on prosecuting a crime called illegal reentry. So these are individuals who had been in the country illegally, had been arrested or convicted, or somehow came into contact with ICE and deported. When they come back into the country, they should be charged, prosecuted, and either deported again or sent to jail.

Just about every one of the prosecutors who was exclusively focused on immigration crime were reassigned or otherwise let go. That was just the first chapter of the book. Secondly, they undid. That is not something I've heard before specifically. I mean, that's pretty astounding.

It is. In my office, I had probably three or four people who worked alongside me. And when we would have these investigations, they would handle the immigration portions of it. Not everyone of...

of criminal investigations obviously is an illegal immigrant. We have plenty of Americans who commit crimes, but there are a certain class of folks who come here from around the world to commit crimes and enrich themselves. And if there were people who are here illegally, the immigration folks would handle the investigations, the confirmation that they were here illegally, and then they would have a separate indictment almost as like a fail safe, uh,

check on the investigation. So if I happen to lose my charges, those charges would still stick. Boom, they're out of the country. But every one of those individuals that I worked with in person were otherwise reassigned or let go. And that was consistent around the country. But then we go to the enforcement of the actual border policy. And what we have seen since Biden's left office

And looking back at what took place, it was a coordinated, expensive, deliberate and sophisticated scheme to bring people into this country on a scale, the likes of which we not only have never seen, but the likes of which we could not have survived if we had had another four or eight years of it. And just one example, temporary protected status.

That was a program that the Biden administration used to grant legal status to millions of people who came here illegally. That program in the past had been used for one, two, a dozen people at a time. If they faced significant issues, significant threats to their life or liberty, they were given PPS, temporary protected status.

Alejandro Mayorkas and Joe Biden granted millions of people, hundreds of thousands of people at a time temporary protected status. And not only that, we've also seen that there was an infrastructure of NGOs, a fiction, a

a non-government governmental organization, NGO, that were awarded billions of dollars to facilitate the migration and then the placement into the country. And these organizations, again, they were absolutely extensions of the government. They were utilized to bypass accountability, bypass scrutiny, bypass Congress,

but to facilitate the placement around the country of tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of illegal immigrants. And these NGOs were awarded awards.

billions of dollars at a time to carry out the objectives of the Biden administration, which was, again, to bring in as many people as possible during their term in office. And Alejandro Mayorkas was brought before Congress on numerous occasions. He was impeached

He sat there and stated with all intention, with all deliberate dishonesty, telling Congress the border is secure, we have an orderly process, and all of these concerns that Americans are raising are ill-founded. And I was disgusted when I saw that.

Because I was on the ground. I was seeing the overwhelming nature of illegal immigration, whether it was at schools, whether it was with hospitals, whether it was undermining Americans' wages, whether it was undermining legal immigrants' ability to find work. The effects of the illegal immigration effect.

ushered in by Joe Biden and Kamala Harris were felt in every sector of our country. And again, that does not happen by accident. It was deliberate, it was purposeful, and it would have undone the fabric of our country had it continued like they were hoping to do. We have two minutes left here, Congressman. First question, your wife played golf at Wake Forest. Have you ever beaten her in golf? Correction. I've got to correct this. She played at NC State. Okay. And

The last time that we played, the last time we played golf together, the disparity between her game and my game was such that she did not even trash talk me. All right. With our 90 seconds left here, let me ask you a quick question about Doge. So as a former federal prosecutor, I imagine you had to use forensic accounting at times, right?

Is there anything different? Isn't that what he's doing right now? Just forensic accounting on the federal government so we know what we're really spending money on, what we really should be spending money on? Yes, that's exactly right. We have $37 trillion in debt. We are paying a trillion dollars of interest every year. Elon Musk is turning the lights on, and he has uncovered some harrowing things. We had a meeting with him last week, and he said that he found...

Roughly 1,000 Social Security numbers that were for individuals over 150 years old. Close to $300 billion from Social Security had been loaned out to those individuals. None of the money had been repaid. That's the kind of mess that he is uncovering, and we must continue to provide transparency and figure out how deep the sloppiness is and how deep the corruption is. Anyone who doesn't want that should be insane. It's committed to an insane asylum. Everybody should want that as a taxpayer.

Yeah, long term congressman, we have just 30 seconds left, but it strikes me that Doge might be the most important thing that's happened in our government in a very, very long time because you've dealt with bureaucracy. There is no way to just work around the edges and fix it. You got to go after it the way they are, right?

That's the only way that I've seen that could be successful, and I hope they continue. Fantastic. Thank you so much, Congressman Brad Knott. You can follow him on X at Rep Knott. Thank you again so much for joining us. Breaking Battlegrounds back in just a moment. Support American jobs while standing up for your values. OldGloryDepot.com brings you conservative pride on premium made in USA gear. Don't settle. Wear your patriotism proudly. Visit OldGloryDepot.com today.

Welcome back to Breaking Battlegrounds. Our next guest up today, Jessica Anderson, is the president of the Sentinel Action Fund and has over a decade of policy and grassroots experience working at the state and national levels. Follow her on X at Jess Anderson to Jessica Anderson. Welcome to the program.

Hi guys, great to be here. Great. So first of all, explain to our audience what is the 2026 Senate map looking like? Great question. So the 2026 midterm map is shaking up pretty nicely. We have two states

that Republicans will need to defend. That's North Carolina and Maine. Both of these states are, you know, North Carolina, typical battleground state. A lot of the demographics have been changing. Obviously, President Trump won it. Maine is a typical northeastern state. You've got a good blend of conservatives that want to be left alone.

And then more moderate Republicans, even some Democrats that might jump over in your kind of traditional northeast political matter. So both states, though, are critical to defending the majority at 53. So for the Senate to keep our numbers where they are now for 53, we need to hold the line for North Carolina and Maine.

Second to those two main defense states, you have Georgia with the potential of a pickup. He tries to say he's a moderate. Let me tell you, he's not. No. John Ossoff is up for re-election. I'll tell you, Chuck, this is an emotional seat, right? We all remember losing the Georgia Senate races before re-election.

we gotta go back and when it uh... we are all anxious to be here to candidate in georgia it's gonna work out to be there a lot of names that are being talked about but we don't have a candidate yet what what we know so far about office liberal you've got a patch for georgians on the new break for the picking that could get us

a seat. And then I would also mention Michigan. Michigan is a race that obviously President Trump won it for the presidential. Mike Rogers ran the Senate race this last past November, lost barely. It was definitely a tight race. The demographics in the state have changed a lot. It's an open seat now. So Republicans have a chance to put someone that's

new uh... forward-looking embracing of where the party is today and i think that michigan is going to be a pick-up opportunity there's a couple other states for keeping an eye on you know minnesota's in the mix that's an open seat um... potentially more of a long shot but definitely something to keep an eye on some primaries could shake out in louisiana maybe in texas um... so there's a lot to look at ohio of course

If Sherrod Brown comes back, we'll be there to make sure he doesn't try to seek his way back into the Senate. So lots to be excited about for next November. Speaking of Sherrod Brown, it seems like he's trying to pivot from what he's been voting for. Same thing as Governor Newsom yesterday. Are these folks getting the memo that what we did in the past is not working? Or do you think they're just giving lip service and they'll continue to vote the way? Hard left liberal chameleons just like John Ossoff. Right, exactly.

Well, I think we saw the Gavin Newsom interview that he did with Charlie Kirk, you know, make news. I mean, when was the last time an interview like that, you know, drove the news cycle for a few days because of his comments on Twitter?

men in women's sports. And it really sent, I think, the Democratic Party in a tizzy because they have this so-called leader of the left providing a very common sense answer. But, you know, his answer was good. I'm really glad he said the right thing. He got there eventually. But I'm of the perspective that it's really what you say in non-election years when you're not running for president.

is actually what you believe and so i wouldn't put any stock into his answer his voting record is so liberal california has become uh... a state completely out of touch with the rest of america and so i don't think anyone in the democratic party has uh... return to common sense i think they need to in some ways declare bankruptcy and start all over because they're completely out of touch with with where america but here's the thing though i don't think they can they're too beholden to this

Like there's, you know, the polling showed 19 percent of the public is angry about President Trump's speech. And we'll talk about this in the next segment. But that 19 percent is them. I mean, they're just angry all the time. I don't know how they get away from where they're at right now.

Yeah, they are angry, and their anger actually blinds them from just being humans. I mean, you saw this when they refused to clap or even acknowledge the child that had survived brain cancer at the joint address earlier this week. I mean, you are so...

You're just blinded. I really don't know how else to say it. You just become so blinded in anger that you can't even see the truth. And so it's not going to change for Democrats until their hearts are softened, until they hear the plight of the American people. And I was starting to think about this yesterday, you know.

President Trump, the policies that he has in place affect all Americans. So at some point, the Democrat that is buying eggs, that is filling up their gas tank, that is sending their kids to school, their life is going to get better. Their life is going to get better. Absolutely. We're going to be coming back with more from Jessica Anderson here in a bit. Also, stay tuned. We have Madeline Rowley coming up. She's an investigative reporter with the Manhattan Institute breaking battlegrounds back in just a moment.

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Welcome back to Breaking Battlegrounds. Our next guest up today, Madeline Rowley, is an investigative reporter covering immigration, financial corruption, lots of that coming out these days, and politics. She is a 2023-24 Manhattan Institute Logos Fellow with previous bylines in the Free Press, City Journal, and Public. You can follow her on X at Maddie underscore Rowley underscore. Madeline Rowley, welcome to the program.

Thanks so much for having me. It's great to be here. So Madeline, the reason you're with us today is you wrote a great piece for the Free Press, a $20 billion slush fund. She writes in like all my favorite publications. Paid by you to progressive nonprofits. So it was an amazing article. My first question to you is once you wrote it and it was out for everybody to read, did you have friends call you and say, why did you let me in on this grift? I mean, I could have made millions of dollars. Did anybody call you about that? No.

Actually, yes, it's so funny you say that. I had several text emails, one from my neighbor saying, should we just quit what we're doing and start a nonprofit? And I said, I don't know, it's looking pretty good. We can make upwards of $315,000 a year. That would be great. Okay.

Yeah, I feel the same way as your neighbor. So next time you let us in on it, okay? So anyway, explain to us what was this $20 billion slush fund? And I'm sure this $20 billion was not the only slush fund that was divvied out in the last days of the Biden administration or previous administrations. Yes, well, we are certainly looking into the second part of that. But what this is, is the Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund applications went out for these grants.

in July of 2023, and that's an important note for the overall timeline of this year. The Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund is part of the Inflation Reduction Act that was passed, and it is all in all a $27 billion fund, $7

$7 billion of that went to a solar for all program, which is a little bit separate. And then we have two other programs that totaled $20 billion and eight nonprofits. I call them nonprofits, but most of them are actually nonprofit coalitions. So they're made up of several nonprofits that banded together in order to get a piece of this pie. Okay.

And as I was doing, you know, some investigative work in covering this $20 billion fund, it turns out that several of these nonprofit coalitions only became nonprofits in June of 2023, which is just a month prior to when the applications for this fund came out. Several of them also became nonprofits in August of 2023.

one month after the applications for this fund came out. So we have on our hands, you know, some brand new nonprofits here. Not only are they brand new, but

several of the nonprofits within these coalitions, um, you know, only ever had revenues of one of them had a revenue of like, I think $2 million a year, um, and, and minuscule government grants in the past. Um, so again, there, there are so many red flags involved in this and we, we think, you know, I'm thinking to myself, um, you know, how are they going to manage in some cases, uh, $500 million, $2.3 million. Um, um,

So, you know, this $20 billion fund was set aside in order to fund climate justice projects or green projects in low-income communities. And, you know, what is also disturbing about this is the eight nonprofits that received these grants, the one nonprofit coalition that received the most was Climate United Fund, which got $6.9 billion of this money.

And then we have one just under that, the Coalition for Green Capital, which got $5 billion. So these are huge chunks of money that these nonprofit coalitions are receiving. And as you look into their work plans, what do they exactly plan to do with this billion dollars? The work plans are pretty sparse. They're about 42 pages long.

You know, not super detailed here. You know, installing solar panels in low-income communities, one of the Justice Climate Fund plans to fund 8,000 electric charging stations. And we know how that's gone in the past.

Another one, for example, Power Forward Communities, which is another nonprofit coalition that received $2 billion of this money and was actually linked to Stacey Abrams. They wrote in their plan, they plan to renovate older homes and make them into multifamily units. But no real details as to how they plan to do this. And it's

It was quite disturbing in the lack of detail here. Some quick back of the iPhone math here, but to try to put this into perspective, $6.9 billion. If you make $100,000 a year, it will take you 69,000 years to make that money. I will give you better math on this, okay? First of all,

So one thing Democrats are saying, and they talk about USAID funding. Now, again, Sam and I are not against foreign aid, right? We don't want kids starving. There's a role for it in the world. It's soft diplomacy, right? Soft power, right? So for $20 billion, it only takes $13 billion then to completely return Maui back to normal after the fires, which they are still struggling and they have not gotten a lot of money yet. So that's one example.

Second example, if this is really for green energy, and I won't get into the whole science behind electric vehicles right now, but for $20 billion, you could have bought 500,000 EVs and give it to low-income people. If you really care about the environment and you think EVs are part of the price –

Give away 500,000 EVs for $20 billion, right? I mean, doesn't that sort of fit what they're trying to do, supposedly? Biden would never do that because the only guy who can make 500,000 EVs is Elon Musk. Well, exactly. But that's my point, though. I mean, it's better to just give these. Say, here's a voucher. Go buy an EV, right? I mean, if that's really what you're about, to clean up the air, and you think EVs are the solution, which they're not. But that's how ridiculous this money is.

Absolutely. And I mean, one source I spoke to when I spoke to you on this with connections to EPA said, you know, there's this $20 billion and they're doing these like little tiny projects that really aren't going to amount to any sort of carbon dioxide, you know, decrease in carbon dioxide emissions in the grand scheme of things, if you want to put it that way. And she told me, you know, why not?

put the $20 billion towards, for example, fixing America's lead pipe problem. Right. Why not put it towards that? That would be something. But then it's going towards these very little minuscule projects of which Administrator Lee Zeldin actually has no clue

who, which companies and which nonprofits, et cetera, which contractors are going to be performing this supposed work. So that's another issue that they're having is they don't know exactly where these nonprofits are planning to disperse the money to.

And that's what he's trying to find out now. Not only that, but the other element to this that, frankly, Madeline really smells to me, and we're talking with Madeline Rowley, an investigative reporter. She covers immigration, financial corruption, and politics with the Manhattan Institute. She's worked with the Free Press, City Journal.

One other element to this is a lot of these nonprofits that were created are founded or directly tied to former appointees or officials of the Biden and Obama administrations.

Yes, that's correct. And that's one thing that I as I was looking into the CEOs and executives of these nonprofit coalitions, in addition to digging into the boards and who's running the boards, sitting on the boards of these nonprofits, there are direct ties to the Biden administration. For example, the CEO of one of the nonprofit coalitions,

Opportunity Finance Network that received $2.3 billion. Their CEO was appointed to a Treasury CDFI board in 2021 and was elected chair of that board in 2024. So we have a Biden appointee running a CDFI fund nonprofit that

received two point three billion dollars. And there are several there's the you know, there's a pattern of this throughout across all of the eight nonprofit coalitions. And, you know, we have not only are they connected to the Biden and Obama administration, but they're connected to one another and that these CEOs and other executives sit on one another's board. So they sit on each other's board. So we have one nonprofit that got two point three billion dollars is sitting on the board of another that got two billion dollars.

So there's this web of interconnectivity. Do these board members get paid, too?

They do not. No, the board members don't get paid that I saw, but they do get paid large sums of money. For example, the CEO of Enterprise Community Partners, they received $600 million of the $2 million pot underneath the Power Forward Communities Coalition, the one that's linked to Stacey Abrams. The CEO of Enterprise Community Partners, who...

She was serving in the interim, I think made close to $800,000. Well, Rafael Sestaro, which you recorded over the Community Preservation Corporation, made $1.5 million salary. That's a great example. I mean, it's just eye-popping.

And you'll see the executive list, it goes down from there, $700,000 to $500,000. I mean, this is money that really blew my mind, looking at how much these people make. And it obviously raises a lot of questions there. We have these connections. They're making a ton of money. They're nonprofits. A lot of them aren't related to climate change. I mean, a lot of these nonprofits are involved in affordable housing.

uh, you know, which is a, you know, completely different. Um, so a lot of these aren't climate change first nonprofits, they're, they're affordable, uh, housing nonprofits or, um,

They don't have anything to do with climate change at all, and yet they're getting $400 million. The least affordable housing is affordable housing. I mean, it's just what they spend on this housing is ridiculous. So having worked at the city of Phoenix, there's a structure for this where actually the developers behind most of our affordable housing projects have higher profit margins than private developers. Okay.

Wow. Because private people say, no, you're going to go get wood here or something, right? I mean, it's just a different ballgame. We've got about four minutes or three minutes left with you. How much are you investigating the NGOs that dealt with the immigration wave we got? Are you starting to look into that and what money was wasted there?

Yeah, so actually I have looked into that. I've previously written, it's actually called the NGOs that made billions off the border. It's another free press article that I wrote where I look into, you know, several of the NGOs that made billions of dollars. It's very similar. Billions of dollars off the immigration, you know, it is.

under the Biden administration and specifically the unaccompanied children's program. So we have these NGOs who were granted billions of dollars by the Department of Health and Human Services under what's called the Office of Refugee and Resettlement. And the Office of Refugee and Resettlement charged these NGOs with many times sheltering the unaccompanied children that were just flowing across the border in record numbers. In 2022, I think it hit a record high one, a record

high one month of 149,000 unaccompanied children, if I'm not mistaken. Um,

So this is just a huge number of unaccompanied children coming across the border. And then those NGOs were charged with sheltering these children. And not only that, but working with ORR to quote unquote vet sponsors, which is like a whole nother problem and a whole nother issue because they were barely vetting these sponsors and in some cases handing children over to verified gang members and criminals.

And I looked into Endeavors, which I think actually is now getting investigated, if I'm not mistaken, Family Endeavors. They got billions of dollars to run a facility in Pecos, Texas. And I found that they were paying a contractor, like a music therapist, $533,000. They had horticulture therapy, pet therapy at the shelter. So again, just money out the door here to just be running

you know, programs that have been deemed unsafe multiple times by the OIG. They've done several investigations on the improper vetting of sponsors for these unaccompanied children. Well, did you see the – we have two minutes left. There was a story last week in San Diego about a shelter that was getting, I think, $7 million a year, and they said, we have no migrants in our shelter.

And reporters like, what are you doing? Well, we'll just save it for another time. I mean, they just return the money. Yeah. So that's called keeping it on warm status. So that happened quite often. Actually, they they they opened a brand new they opened a brand new shelter in in North Carolina, in Greensboro, North Carolina.

And I don't think it ever sheltered one child. They kept it continuously on warm status, you know, just in case, spending, you know, millions and millions and millions of dollars on it. And I don't think one child was ever sheltered there. You know, I'll check on where they are with that now. But there are so many examples of that where they just keep these facilities running and there are no children in the shelters at all. We have just one minute left, Madeline. I have a question related to all of this. Sure.

And fundamentally, leaving aside the causes they're talking about, are these monies really being used historically and intentionally to sway electoral politics? Because we felt outgunned on the ground in campaigns for years now, and it seems like this money is potentially one of the root causes.

Well, I mean, it would certainly seem like it. I mean, I know that one of the new CEO of, I believe it's the Coalition for Green Capital, he donated $600,000 to the Democratic cause over...

over the years. And one of the other CEOs donated $10,000 in 2024 to Kamala Harris. So I think we're absolutely seeing that, you know, the money cycling back into elections. And, you know, it wouldn't be surprising, again, if it's not just the immigration industrial complex, it's not just the greenhouse gas reduction fund. We're going to be digging into this and seeing where all this is happening.

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Welcome back to Breaking Battlegrounds with Chuck Warren and Sam Stone. On the line with us right now, Jessica Anderson, president of the Sentinel Action Fund, has over a decade of experience in policy and grassroots, working at the state and national levels. Follow her on X at JessAnderson2. Jess, when we went to break with you before, we were talking a little bit about Donald Trump's...

amazing, frankly, historic joint address to Congress. And you wrote on X afterwards as evidenced by last night, Democrat elected officials won't be able to rally behind president Trump, but maybe they will rally behind the impact of his policies, secure border, safe neighborhoods, a lower cost of living. These everyday improvements will affect all is Donald Trump potentially going to save some Democrat elected officials from getting thrown out of office by doing the things that

that their constituents want also, even if they're opposed to it? That's a good question. And it really just depends on the messaging that comes from the Democrats that are up for office. So I could see a situation where if you had Democrats through the summer, specifically in the House and some of these tight House races that are on the margins for the majority in the House,

where if they start to embrace some of the successes of the Trump policies or they start to just flat out applaud and start mentioning that things are getting better, then you have a Democrat that has recognized the power of Trump's impact and maybe it softens it to voters. But what I just described is a scenario that just feels scary.

whole park and reality it doesn't feel like any democrat whether standing today uh... is really going to get there in terms of recognizing the impact of these policies and recognizing that life is getting better for american they don't have to do that if they do that and they can communicate that back to their voters that maybe but the chances of a of an entrenched democrat at this point

embracing Trump in any way or even the successes of this administration I think are pretty far out. But like I said on that, I think this is really going to come down to their own hearts being softened and they're going to have to wake up. Their eyes are going to have to be opened to the reality of where voters are today. It just feels like it's going to have to be a supernatural moment for us to get there.

I think they're too busy making cringy dance videos. I thought that was a SNL skit when someone sent it to me last night. The choose your fighter thing? Yeah. I mean, I know I literally thought it was a parody. I didn't think they were serious. I thought you're supposed to be actresses doing this.

You know, let's just talk about that for like two seconds here. As a older millennial woman, I love Instagram, right? That's where I spend my free time looking at beautiful homes and, you know, makeup tips, right? And so the other day there was a freshman Democrat congressman.

congresswoman who did what's called a get ready with me segment on her Instagram and I watched it and I was like this is a city member of Congress putting her phone in her bathroom as she applies her makeup this is not an influencer from you know Nordstrom it's like the Democratic Party is saying okay we don't take being an elected official serious we don't

We don't take the oath of office serious. We are not elevating leadership in this country. Instead, we're going to act like an influencer to try to get clicks from millennials and not do our job that the American people sent them here to do. It just makes me so mad because it's

out of touch and out of market for what we want to see from elected officials actually leading. Well, it's performative art. And I was actually talking to a woman here in Arizona who's quite wealthy and donates money all the time. And she was talking yesterday and she said, 20 years ago when someone said they were a congressman or woman, that brought great respect.

She goes, I don't feel you get that anymore. And when they do stunts like this to influence some 18-year-old high school girl, I mean, they're really demeaning the office. With a three-year-old TikTok trend, by the way. Yeah, yeah. They're demeaning the office. They're demeaning the importance of their work. Am I wrong on that?

I think you're exactly right. And it doesn't mean you can't be innovative online. Look what the press secretary is doing with the MAGA moment at the end of the week. A quick, rapid response wrap-up to the policies that were done this way, easily to be shared online, easy to share on X and Instagram and wherever else, catchy music behind it. You can still be innovative digitally, but you don't have to be cringy. Like, come on. By the way, can we just take a minute? I think...

Carolyn Leavitt has just been spectacular. I think she has been a home run in that position. I mean, a better one we've had, and I can't remember, probably Ari Fleshman for Bush. She's fantastic. Home run. Yeah, she's a home run. She's a one. All right. With our time left here...

For these candidates who are running for Senate, the Republicans, and they were going to sit down with you and say, Jessica, what should be my message? What are the three things you think every conversation they have from the parking lot to the Rotary Club should they cover the next 18 months?

So I think there's probably three things that are worth mentioning. And before I say those three, I'll just preface it by saying the 2026 midterm election is going to be different than 24, not only because the map looks different, but because President Trump himself is not on the ballot. And so a lot of these Senate candidates, I think, are

that the conventional wisdom that the midterm elections is a negative response where the political pendulum swings the opposite of the White House is going to happen now. First thing I tell them is that does not need to be the case. There's nothing about President Trump and his leadership that is

is conventional. The man has defied every odds, including surviving two assassination attempts. And so to think that this is going to be a conventional midterms where Democrats, you know, take over the majorities is just not, is not giving credit to the president that has proven he's non-conventional and he can do things that no other Republican has done before. So I think there's a lot of reasons to be optimistic about this cycle. And I think the three main issues to

to really connect the dots back to voters. It's first gonna be the border.

We know from every single post-verbatim and poll and focus group after this last November that the number one issue driving voters out is securing the border, is providing safety and security into our neighborhoods, is getting the illegal immigration crisis under control. And so I think for Senate candidates to talk about what they did to get DHS

up and running so quickly, Tom Homan, Kristi Noem in place, and then the role that Congress has with this bill that hopefully they're going to pass here in the next few weeks to get additional border funding to the most important places at our southern border. So I love the idea of talking about that first, connecting the dots, showing them that they were real, that they answered the clarion call. Second to that is the economy. Now, I think this is one that's going to feel like it's going to take a little bit more time. We're starting to see

We're really seeing just how deep the problems of the Biden administration's economic plan has been and how much it's hurt the health of our economy. President Trump is making moves now to strengthen that. I think we're going to see the cost of living decrease. We're going to see big changes that are going to come once the deregulatory efforts are all in place and the trickle-down effect of that.

I think the summer is going to be a great time to talk about the economy. It's going to be a great time to remind people of what the price of gas and carton of eggs and education looked like under President Biden, as opposed to President Trump and his reforms. So I think those two issues, top of mind. And then the third thing I would say is that so many people came out, especially these low-compensity voters, first-time voters for Trump,

They came out because they wanted to see Washington break what needs to be broken and fix what needs to be fixed. And I know those two sentences might sound in conflict with each other. That's a great line. Yeah, you can hold them up. You can hold space for them at the same time. And they want to see fighters. Yes. So I think the senators need to talk about how they were the partner to

to President Trump going in for Doge, being serious about USAID and looking at every, you know, all the waste, fraud and abuse. Like, how are they helpful to that? Because that's those are tough, tough things to message, especially if you know someone that might have lost a job from it. Well, let's talk about the bigger picture and everything that was at stake and how

The government has just gotten so out of control. So I'd like to see more conversations of that. Obviously, I'm a big believer that you can vote early, take advantage of voting absentee. So we want to be consistent at that. The Republican Party has turned the corner when it comes to absentee ballot, early vote, fully embraced it. And I'll just leave you with this. We just ran a poll in the upcoming four big Senate battleground races. 88% of Trump voters

first time low-propensity voters from last year that we're gonna need to turn out in Michigan, Maine, North Carolina, and Georgia this coming year. 88% made up their decision on who to vote for before October 1st.

So we need to be talking to these voters early, often, and encouraging them to vote early as well. Absolutely. Thank you so much, Jessica. Jessica Anderson, you can follow her on X at Jess Anderson, too. Jessica Anderson, thank you again so much for joining us, and we look forward to having you back in the near future. Thank you so much for having me, guys. Have a great day.

Well, Jeremy, let's kick off the theme song here for... Time for some music. For some music for Kylie's Corner. ♪ Talking about crimes and the ones committed ♪ ♪ Murder and mayhem in a world of sin and oh-oh-oh ♪ ♪ Kylie's on a roll ♪

Kylie's got a corner and she's gonna start spilling out all the true crime in the world we're living in So come and take the spin listening

We're listening in. I know, it's really hard not to sing along to that, but no one wants to hear my singing voice. Actually, I think next time we're going to have to have that. We're all swooning to it. Yeah, we're swooning. So what do we got today? Oh my goodness, this was a crazy week. It was like the ghost of murderous past. They're all coming out of the woodworks.

So I have an update on the Idaho 4 case, the Casey Anthony, she's back, and then an update on the three Chiefs fans that died in the snow that I just talked about a couple of weeks ago. The Frozen Friends case. Yeah, yeah. I may have a JonBenet Ramsey update in the future. I didn't want to talk about it today because I still think it might.

Maybe a conspiracy still. But you're on the trail. But I'm on the trail. I'm on the trail. I'm investigating. So really quick, the Kansas Chiefs fans. So I talked about this, refreshed it right around the Super Bowl because it had been a year since these three men were watching a Chiefs game with their other friend. And then they were found dead in his backyard of the surviving friend's house. So...

Since then, Jordan Willis, he was the surviving friend, the owner of the house. He's been arrested along with his drug dealer, Ivory Carson. So the owner was arrested at the house finally. Yep. So the owner was arrested and the drug dealer. They're both charged with three counts of involuntary manslaughter and two counts of delivery of a controlled substance. So it's said that they provided...

cocaine to the guys that was laced with fentanyl and that's what ended up killing them. Ivory, the drug dealer, is still being held. He has a $100,000 bond in Jordan. When he turned himself in, he posted the bond in cash, so he's currently out. But investigators did say that this case is a tragic reminder of the dangers of street drugs, but make no mistake that people who

supply those drugs can and still will be held accountable. Well, and you went to this scenario, literally, I think if I remember the first time you talked about this, way before everyone else was talking about that as a possibility. Yeah, yeah. It just sounded like that was probably one of the only explanations. Jordan is standing by saying he went to bed and the guys were still downstairs doing whatever they were doing. And that's why he didn't know they were in the backyard dead for two days.

And I do believe that. But I don't know because the wife, the fiance of one of them was contacting him for two days and he wouldn't allow them in the house. He went nothing. So she broke into the house and then saw them dead in the backyard. And that's when she called the cops. They weren't even covered with snow? I don't know. Maybe they were. Maybe they weren't.

I mean, it'd be interesting to know the weather that day. It was very snowy. Was there a snowstorm? Yes, there was. Okay, so then they got covered with snow. Two days, the snow would melt. Whole new take on snowmen. Yes, yes, yes. Again, you know how you don't die of fentanyl? Don't do drugs. Don't do drugs. Exactly. Really? Is that all you have to do? That's pretty much it. Yeah. Anyways, I have an update on the Idaho 4 case. Oh, my God. This one's interesting. Do it.

The first thing I want to know is Brian Koberger is still trying to get the death penalty off the table. And he has now put on the table that he's on the autism spectrum. So he should not be. I believe that. Yeah. I agree, though. Yeah, I believe that. I mean, I don't think it should. I don't think it should prevent him from getting the death penalty. But I do believe he's on the spectrum. That wouldn't surprise me. He definitely has some OCD kind of tendencies like that. But so a judge ruled that these new documents would be unsealed.

which is why we have this and it's text messages. We got the 911 transcript with the parent, which the parents, multiple parents had said they wish didn't come out. They didn't release the audio, but they did release the transcript, which was chaotic to read. So I'm not going to read the whole thing. Thank you. But it was basically, there was four people on the phone. The, they, no one could speak

clearly they were all yelling half addresses. They were saying one person's passed out from being drunk the night before. Someone's saying, no, I think it's a homicide. They're saying, calm down. Cops are on their way. Calm down. And for our audience, think about

Let's say you're getting angry on a text back and forth. Yeah. Your hands shake. You know, you're not as nimble, right? Right. I mean, it's amazing what the adrenaline of anger or fear will do to your communications. Oh, yeah. No, absolutely. And your reasoning. And that's why the military trains in various scenarios because they know that kicks in. So you've got to go by memory and things of that nature. There's a reason for it.

Well, I mean, the fear response was what drove the COVID response, right? Which was so irrational and out of line. It's a powerful force. Let's wash our plastic sacks. Continue, Kylie. Yeah. So I'm going to rewind until the night before, before we get to the transcript of the 911 call. But so Dylan and Bethany, those are the two surviving roommates. They were texting back and forth, um,

During all during this entire incident and those were the text messages that were released. I'm going to go through those because they're actually kind of quick. So Dylan said that she was woken up at 4 a.m. to what she thought was Kaylee playing with her dog in the room that was right above hers. And then she and then it's also known that Zanna got door dash at 412 and was also on TikTok at this time.

Phone records show around 4.17, Dylan trying to call all four roommates, getting no response. And then this is when even the roommate downstairs, she still didn't get a response. She didn't get a response from her either. So then she texts Kaylee, who was upstairs, saying, Kaylee, what's going on? She then texts Bethany, who was downstairs, and says, I'm freaking out. Please answer. I'm assuming they had some kind of phone call because right here they said that

Because when Dylan was talking to the cops, she said she saw a man that she thought was a fireman with bushy eyebrows. So that's how she identified this man coming down the stairs. She's then texting Bethany downstairs at 4.22 a.m. saying, no one's answering. I'm really confused right now. And then Bethany says, dude, WTF? And then Zanna was wearing all black. I think suggesting that it could have been her. And Dylan responds, I'm freaking out right now. No, it's a ski mask almost. And she said,

Shut the F up. Dylan then says like he had something over his forehead and little mouth. I'm not kidding. I'm so freaked out. Bethany said, so am I. Dylan said, my phone's going to die. F word Dylan. And then Bethany said, come to my room, run. And then she said, run down here. Um,

And then it's known that both of them just fell back asleep and then woke up around 10 a.m. So then at like 10.23, they all start calling the roommates again. No one's answering. Text messages are going out to them saying, Kaylee, are you up? Please answer. What's going on? And had these two survivors all been up drinking the night before? Yes. Is that why they fell asleep? It wasn't like they drank a lot. They were all out. Yeah, drank a lot. They were very drunk. So then around 11 a.m., Dylan calls her dad. And then shortly after calling her dad, they call 911. How old were they?

Were they under 21? No, I think they're all 21. Okay. They're all 21 or 22 because they were about to graduate. They were older college students. Yeah, one of them, Kaylee, was actually just visiting because I think she graduated early from this university and she was just back in town, which is even more sad because she wanted to show off her new car that she had just bought. So...

Then after she spoke with her dad, literally shortly after they called 911, and it was just frantic being like... They were discussing Zanna. They weren't discussing anyone else. I'm assuming they probably didn't go upstairs or even go in the room or even look that much because they're saying...

Our friend was passed out the night before. She's not getting up. Someone's yelling in the background. No, this might be a homicide. And then they're all just trying to say, calm down, try to get us the address because they were half saying the address. And then it was also so then that's kind of it's just left there. They're using the text messages and the 911 call just as a timeline. They're not using it as hard facts of like, this is what happened that night.

And then the other thing that they released from the unsealed documents was DNA samples. So there was three different DNA samples found under Maddie's fingernails that are not Brian Koberger's. And then also an unknown DNA sample that was on the door rail. But I want to point out that Maddie and Kaylee were out at nightclubs that night or like at clubs. And I think when you're there, you're like you're grabbing onto people's arms. You're like touching them. I don't think it's like as...

to have someone else's DNA. Especially when girls, especially when I imagine college-age women have a little tipsy. Yes. They're a little lovey-dovey. Yes, very lovey-dovey. I'm hugging everybody. They went to multiple places. They went to a food truck. Every female they meet in the bathroom is their new best friend. They're going to brunch tomorrow, blah, blah, blah. Lovey-dovey with claws. Yes. All those nails. Yeah, that's what, yeah. So Brian was trying to use this DNA, or his lawyers are trying to use that there's so many different DNA samples that they can't say his DNA on the sheath is fake.

anything of relevance. But his DNA's there, right? His DNA's there in the house and he's stalking them. Yeah, so why would his DNA be in the house? That's just stupid, right? His car was seen on a video that night around four or something. So he's at the scene. Now, this is what's freaking me out, though. This guy

Because he was studying criminology. Yeah. And when he was arrested, he said, was there anyone else arrested? So it's always been a question if there's someone else involved in how he could possibly overtake two people in each room. I think there was. A man. Same. I do too. I think there's someone else involved. That would not surprise me. Four people is a lot of people. Yeah. Yes. Even if three are female. Yes.

Well, even just one has to be able to call nine or, you know, I don't know, but you would think one would be able to call even just walking into a house with the ill intent with that many people in it for a single person would be dangerous. I mean, yeah. And then if Bethany did identify, see him just in him, you know, making eye contact and then just leaving, crossing your fingers, hoping.

Yeah, and why did he... She was going to wait that long. Yeah, why did he leave these two? It's always my mystery on that, too. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know. But speaking of people that got away with murder... Yeah, who got away with it? J.C. Anthony. She's back on social media. I cannot believe she's doing this. Total narcissist behavior. But the problem is, this shows how clever she is, to be honest with you, because she realizes, if I take this side in the extreme thing, no matter what I've done, I am now the patron saint. Yeah. She waited 20 years to make her... Because...

Her daughter would have been 20 this year. Waited 20 years to make her comeback to social media when there's a whole new generation that doesn't know what happened. Don't know her. Because I think it happened. It probably ended right around me. I remember watching Nancy Grace.

in this verdict. And then there was like this theory that Casey Anthony was living in Arizona, in Northern Arizona. Nancy Grace. I totally forgot that name. Oh, she's still up there. Oh, and they've woken up the beast. Casey Anthony woke her back up and she's just screaming about the whole thing. It's so amazing to watch. Oh, I'm going to have to check that out. Yeah. We need to get Nancy on the show actually for an hour just in this studio. I would love. Oh, I mean, oh yeah. I would love to. She's like probably the one that got me into this. Her and Casey combined got me into criminology. Yeah.

But...

I want to read this part of what she said in her videos because she said, for those of you that don't know, my name's Casey Anthony, my daughter's Kaylee Anthony, and my parents are George and Cindy Anthony. This is not about them. This is not a response to anything they've said or done. The whole point of this is for me to reintroduce myself. I'm doing this both personally for me and in a professional capacity. My goal is to continue to give a voice to people, to give the tools and resources that they can utilize to

So they actually know where they can turn to. One of my main reasons to doing this, there are people close to me who have been targeted, attacked recently. I don't know who's her friend or who's close to her, but someone. People close to me who have had some recent things occur to them. When necessary, people need to step up, myself included. So as a proponent for the LGBTQ community, for the legal community, women's rights, I feel it's important that I use my platform that was thrust upon

And now look at it as a blessing instead of a curse. I have no doubt she does not have a friend in the LBGT community. Again, if you support their cause, they look past everything else. Am I wrong? As a reminder, Kaylee...

murderer is still out there. It's still a cold case. So why, if she's innocent, why was she not saying, I'm coming to this, please help me find my daughter's murder, if she was innocent? Yeah, no, she killed her daughter. Yeah. Killed her daughter. And then she's obviously not talking about her parents that she's advocating for the hate or anything that they're getting because the last communication, Cindy has come out and said, these are the last communications with my daughter. These text messages, I just think were totally savage on her part. Casey texted her and said, I'm going to once again ask you to

I'm going to once again ask to come and retrieve my daughter's ashes as well as more of the property or anything else of mine that's still in your house. I will be in town in two weeks. So let me know if arrangements can be made. Thank you. And then her mom responds. Sorry, but there is nothing here for you to pick up. I'm not parting with her ashes. That's all you gave me in the end. I'm not trying to be mean. That's how I feel. And she said, stay with your murderous, adulterous, rapist husband. You don't deserve any part of her and you will never again have any part of me. You chose your husband over both your grandchild and your child.

biggest mistake of your life and then she comes back with your dad never touched you or kaylee you need help how dare you don't ever say that i don't deserve any part of her i fought for her when you put her in the woods to rot and be eaten by animals and insects live with that and then sent a photo of kaylee

And that was their last communications. Wow. Yeah. That's brutal. Wow. Yeah. And so the judge on the case also came out and he made the statements that she's craving attention after being out of the spotlight for a while. Casey wants to make cold, hard cash. That's why she's asking fans to pay $10 a month or $100 a year to subscribe to her sub stack and will not allow anyone to comment on any of her pieces unless you are a paid subscriber. Can I say how much it bothers me that she...

She gets paid more for her sub stack than we do. Well, we're not asking. So we're not. I mean, like people pay $10. Guys, we're living in a world where people are paying $10 to follow this. But that's how people get paid. This is insane. But that's a society we live in. And again, my guess is she will do OK with this because of what she is supporting and

That group of people will support anybody, doesn't matter what their background is, as long as they say you do what you want to do and it's okay. And there's kind of a niche for...

and that type out there too, right? Well, think about all of... The one thing about the Menendez case that's always in the forefront now because of the Netflix series. Did you watch it, by the way? Yeah. I had to stop and think. I couldn't get... It just made me feel yucky, right? It was stomach-churning. Yeah, it was hard for me to do, but...

I saw an interview, and I think it was in People magazine, you know, the sources for all culture, and just how many proposals they got in prison from women. Yeah. How many people out here? And this happens all the time. All the time. Why? Explain this to us as a woman. I don't. Maybe I need to have one of them on my segment.

What is it? Oh, that would be great. Can you make that happen? My first guess. Yeah. An inmate lover. Is that what they would be? Yeah, inmate lovers. Inmate lovers. Now look at that. Now that's finally a good idea. I have lots of good ideas. We shouldn't. Kylie did get us great guests today. Oh, Kylie did. I'm always getting guests, but now I've got to start getting guests for my segment.

Well, seriously, I would love to get one of these prison lovelorn pen pals on. Prison lovers and Nancy Grace. Yeah. Let's do it. All right. All right. TikTokers are also creating a lawsuit to sue Casey Anthony for emotional distress.

You're just giving her more publicity. Yeah, she wants it. Well, that was a great show today, Kylie. Thanks. Thank you for doing it. To our friends, you can always catch us at BreakingBattlegrounds.vote or wherever you can get your podcasts, including Pandera now. Pandera. Pandora. Pandora. Pandora. Sirius. And where else you get it, on behalf of Jeremy, Kylie, Sam, and myself, have a great weekend. Take care.