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And just like that, we're back with yet another carefully reckless episode with your girl, Jessalaria. So this episode is going to be different. I'm here with my best friend. Okay, definitely was about to let y'all fucking know, but since y'all are no strangers to this man, so y'all already know.
Okay, we're not going to do fixing the mask and all that because she don't know what she be talking about. And I don't want y'all to stop sending me y'all stories because I got a clown up here trying to help me give y'all advice. Baby, I'm the one that gives the best advice around here. You telling them things that they shouldn't do. And I tell them shit that they shouldn't do. Baby, please. All right. So we're going to discuss previous topics that we had up at the Breakfast Club because I want...
my listeners opinions I want my best friend's opinion or whatever so in a more recent episode of Breakfast Club I was intrigued by this rabbit hole I went down and then if y'all know me y'all know I love Saucy Santana I love him and I was looking at one of his lives that he had did with Karisha a couple months ago well you know months back and he was saying that at a certain age he
He is going to want kids, you know, and go get a wife. Now, I don't know. We know the personality that Saucy Santa holds. He's playful. He, you know, he always looking to laugh and make somebody laugh, you know. So I don't know if he was joking about this, but we also know that he don't be lying. You know, we know he play, but he don't lie. And, you know, he don't say things that he gonna have to regret later, you know, so.
I honestly felt like it's the truth. If it was a joke, it's the truth in every joke. And I feel like, you know, maybe still just want kids and, you know, I'm not going to say the wife part, but I think maybe he does still want kids somewhere down the line. He wants to be able to have his children with a woman. You know what I'm saying? Like not, not be with her. Like, but definitely like best friends. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like I, I, I feel like,
and it's to his own prerogative if that's what he wants to do that's what he wants to do but he said that on live and I want my best friend who's also gay so she says to let me know what she thinks about that like what you mean when I think about it think about what what do you think about it what I just fucking said this is why maybe I wasn't listening but you right so now moving on so um next topic uh
So also, bro. Yeah. What the fuck do you think about it? Because we can fucking keep on going. Baby said so also. Right. But no, I'm saying like, all right, what you mean what I think? Like, that's his, that's his shit. If that's what you want to do, you're going to do it, right? Mm-hmm. You a man. You do what you want to do. Mm-hmm. You grown. Mm-hmm. I'm talking about you. Damn. Mm-hmm.
And what else? Right. You know, if you want to put a baby up in some mile, you're going to do it, right? Right. I'm not saying I disagree with it, but it was a topic that we had on Breakfast Club and some people had called up and they were saying, like, what's...
Well, they think that he was making like a mockery of gay people that he was saying like what he was saying and how he feels was proving the wrong side. Right. And I'm just feeling like, no, they were looking at it a different way. I'm not even going to say they were looking at it the wrong way. I just don't think Saucy Santana has in his mind.
To be with a woman? Yeah. No, he don't have it in his mind to give a fuck about what somebody think about how he feel. But that's the thing. Everybody feel differently about different things. So I hate that people try to put a... You don't have to think the same way someone else does. Right, right. If he want to go and change his mind... Well, I know... Well...
It's his decision. Yeah. It's his decision. Because I'll piggyback off of what you said. Like, if you want to change your mind and listen, that don't have nothing to do with you being gay. You could be straight, gay, bisexual, trans, whatever. People change their minds about the way they live, the way they move, the way, you know, anything. And then sometimes you don't even change. You just evolve and you grow. And, you know, sometimes we had a caller to call up.
And they said, when he grows up and, you know, they agreed with him. And because they were like, because the guy said the same thing. He was like, well, I think about that a lot as well. No, I'm not going to say I'm not going to be gay anymore. Right. But I do want a wife and kids. And I do want, you know, and the only way that.
I will be able to be with a woman as if she knows everything about me. I'm not going to hide anything from my past. You know what's going on. Full transparent. I'm letting you know everything. If you're okay and you're willing to accept it, that is going to be somebody that I could be with. You know what I mean? And I agree with that person completely.
It's because people can change their minds, not change your mind about being gay, but you just grow out of certain things. About how you want to live your life. About how you want to live your life, which has nothing to do with your sexual preference. That's your choice. It's your choice. So, yeah, and I do want to, before we get off of this topic, I do want to end off on this.
Stop caring about what other people think about you. You know what I'm saying? Like, don't ever give somebody else power over you. If you wake up and you want to be gay or if you are born gay or if you are just whatever, that's who you are. Don't even give... Yeah, don't even give nobody else the power. You know what I'm saying? Don't do that. Like, I remember just recently watching Candace Owens. She was speaking at a college or something like that. And...
You know, a couple of trans students had asked her a question that this one in particular question, it was mind boggling because she was like, how do you feel about us feeling victimized by your presence here today? Why the hell would you give her that much power? She could have answered anyway. She could have. She could have. She would have said, I don't give a fuck how you feel or I feel that y'all shit. Yeah.
Nah, you're already giving somebody grounds to shit on you when you ask somebody how they feel. Nah, don't give nobody. No, you are who the fuck you are. If you're not fucking confused and you know who you are, that's who the fuck you are. You speak on how you feel, you keep the fuck moving. Or you ain't got to explain yourself to no fucking body. No, my thing was when people was asking her, what do she think about them? I mean, yeah, it was like, like, yeah, why do you?
And remember that, yeah, why do you care? And then the one lady, I mean, the student, a girl, she was like, I am not confused. So what do you think about that? And she said, well, at least we know that you're not confused. So that's not really a question. That's a statement, honey. Congratulations, you're not confused. Like, that is it. Yeah.
That is it. Yeah, it's like they almost didn't have anything to say. So they just wanted to say something. First of all, I'm not confused. I never said you was like, like, so yeah, I just stopped giving people power over you. You know what I mean? That's all. If you love me, you'll listen to this commercial and then we'll be right back.
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next topic so on the breakfast club a couple weeks ago we was discussing people spinning the block nelly and ashanti just did that all right now they was asking me dj envy and charlamagne was asking me have i ever spent the block and got it right or did i ever spend the block and got it wrong or just my experience with spinning the block and i'ma tell y'all like i told them i spent the block
I attempted to spend the block with somebody else, but I actually did spend the block with my son's dad back when my son was very, very young. And Rome couldn't wait 48 hours to cheat on me. Again, I said, damn. And the crazy thing is...
I actually didn't want to cheat. I had a boyfriend at the time. You had a good ass boyfriend. I had a good man. I surely did. I had a good ass boyfriend. He was very involved with me, my son, my family. He was good. I know. He was amazing, right? And then me being young, I'm not going to say dumb because, you know, you're just young and you grow up.
I was young. And you just grow up, you know? And you still dumb because you claim you gay but don't know what fucking girls want you. So yeah, you might as well just go back to being straight. Yeah, you still dumb thinking you're going to get some pussy. Oh my gosh. Sorry, guys. So... Why'd I say sorry? Right. Sorry. I don't want no pussy. Like, yo.
What was we saying? Fuck. Yeah, because your mom fucking ate it. Anyway, Jess is gay. Why are you gay? Jess is gay. All right. Who says I'm gay?
She talk about us every fucking day. I know. I love you. All right. Spent the block. Yeah. He couldn't wait 48 hours to cheat on me, honey. And the crazy thing is I was with a guy, a very, oh no, we already, we already passed that. I was with a good guy. So I went to the guy. I didn't want to cheat on him. I went to him and I said, listen,
We are fairly new, and before we go any further with this and, you know, fall for each other even more, I just want to let you know I want to try it again with my family. My son is young, you know, I guess I'm not over Rome. My son's dead, and I just want to try it. He was pissed, but he was an older gentleman. He was very understanding. He was upset, though, heartbroken, if I must say, and...
He couldn't say anything. He was just like, "Damn, at least you being up front with me. All right, cool, whatever." You feel me? He did do a little begging and pleading, and I was weak, honey, 'cause this man was fine as fuck, finer than my baby father.
Oh, no, you ain't going to play it by my mother. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. No, my baby father. They both cute as hell. Yeah, both cute as hell. But Andre was given. Oh. Damn. Name drop. So I get, I get, I leave him. He said, all right, whatever. I leave him. I go back to Rome. We go down to the aquarium, take our son out the next day. And then that night, he even snuck out to go fuck somebody else. I'm like, damn, you couldn't wait two days?
God damn. One day, not even 24 hours, this nigga. Listen, I broke up with the nigga at 9 a.m. We was at the aquarium with our son at 12 noon. By 12 midnight, that motherfucker was sneaking out to go cheat. And I was like, what in the fuck? Are you serious? And guess who he was cheating on me with? A man. Ah! Oh my God!
Psych room. That's my brother. That's my brother. No, he was cheating on me with one of his other baby mothers. Darn. Well, it was only, I was the only one at that time, only baby mother at that time, but the next girl, um, with, with, uh, his next baby's mom. Oh.
yep yep yep yep that was so crazy but next thing you know he was bringing the baby over to you next thing oh yeah I remember that shit yep yep yeah that little girl so fucking crazy so cute so then after that I said alright well fucking I'm gonna go get back to my nigga you know what I'm saying I'm gonna go try and get my nigga back cause I just broke up with him yesterday morning so he should still be feeling sad and I and I should go back and be like I'm gonna go back and try this like hey psych
You know, that was a joke. It was a complete prank. I'm a comedian. Yeah. Ha ha. So, yeah. What you think? What's up? I'm here. That nigga said, bitch, you don't get the fuck out of my face, bitch. You just, no, don't play with me. No. That's whatever. You think the grass green on the other motherfucking side. And you already knew you was getting cheated on anyway. That's how you found me. And then you're going to leave me for this motherfucker to cheat on you again and then try to come back. Baby girl, bye. And I fucked that man up. I fucked his head up. I was upset.
And I still struggle with forgiving myself for that.
I was trying to be a family. Fuck. And this motherfucker Rome just wanted to have his cake and eat it too. You know what I mean? But that's neither here nor there now. The story is water under the motherfucking bridge. It's done. Because me and Rome are excellent, great friends now. Co-parenting is all we do. And we're more like family. So it is what it is. But have y'all ever spent the goddamn block?
and it didn't work or it did work how are y'all experiences with spending a damn block how was yours have you ever spent a block Bess spend a block spend a block nah usually when I'm done I'm done but I will give a bitch hella chances that's it I gotta stop that too nah you didn't
yeah you really did that's why i said but nah yeah i'll be giving too many chances for sure but i don't i don't never spend the block once i'm done it'd be a wrap baby yeah so like no never going back to a relationship you might talk to them still y'all can hang out and chill if it's too much time in between the break if we like break up and too much time between and i said yeah it's a wrap yeah i got you i did that twice and that was it
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So a recent topic that we had on The Breakfast Club as well. So again, we're just going to name this episode Breakfast Club Topics. Was another one given by me. If your baby father and your boyfriend is fighting, who are you helping and do you feel bad? Now I said, you know, given that my baby father is not really...
a fighter and such. Like, like he, he run his mouth. He know how to run that motherfucking mouth, but who the fuck don't, you know? And, but, but he ain't really fucking like scrappy, scrap, scrap, scrap it down with you. You know what I'm saying? Um,
Who would I? I would help him. I would help him and then just have to deal with my boyfriend's mouth. Because... I mean, how would you help him, though? Like, you going to pull him off? Yeah. You going... Okay. Oh, I'm not about to swing my boyfriend. My boyfriend's about to hit me, bitch. It is really a problem. And then it's like, Rome, now you got to help me beat him up, bud. That's not what happened. And now y'all both out there. Now we all here struggling. Now me and Rome getting fucked up. Damn. Yeah. Bye, my boyfriend. Bye, your boyfriend. Jesus.
But no, no. I said that I would help Rome. But the only reason why I would help Rome, not because we got a kid together, not because, oh, I have this undying love for my baby father. No, it's not any of that. Not because I got to deal with this nigga for the rest of my life because I don't. His son do. You know what I mean? It's the fact that he can't fight...
Look, stop talking about my own. And this is my friend. This is my brother. I will never stand by and watch Rome get beat up. I just, I can never do it. I can't do it. I can't. Even if it requires me pulling him off or pulling somebody off of him or just, no, babe, what you doing? Stop.
Something. We cannot. We cannot. What about if your baby father and your boyfriend got into a... Who are you helping? My girlfriend and my baby mother. I don't know. Oh, my God. Sorry. I'm going to ask you both. I'm going to ask you both. No, you're not. All right. Let me ask you both. You're a damn boy. You're the only man in here.
Anyway. Go eat. Hello, everybody. If it was my baby mother or my father. Exactly. That was the fuck you get playing. It was my baby mother or my father. Let me settle. Hello, guys. No, for real, though. If it's my baby mother or my girlfriend. Who would you help? My girlfriend, man. Right. Because, you know, like, you know, I can't. I can't. Because.
Because, hold up, why are they even fighting? That's the thing. I don't be having that type of shit going on. Yeah, and it depends. It just would depend on the situation. Yeah, it do depend too. Charlamagne was funny. If this person, no, because look, I'm a Libra, so I'm all for right and wrong. Like, if you wrong, motherfucker, alright, I'm going to rock with you. If you wrong, I'm going to rock with you. It depends on the situation. Yeah, it really do depend. And Charlamagne was funny. His motherfucking ass going to say it. I wasn't finished. Oh, sorry. Yeah, so it depend.
Bitch, your wall is finished. Talk about something. Yeah, it depends. Yeah, it depends on what. But yeah, the situation, it's a lot of variables that could play, that could, you know, play it down, you know? Now, what Charlamagne said was funny. Charlamagne said, because I asked him, I said, now, if your girlfriend and your baby mother is fighting, who are you siding with? He said, who my kid will want me to side with. Now, you don't motherfucking know who the kid wants you to side with because the kid going to want you to side with that parent. Because what if y'all had kids? Right, yeah.
Oh, you got to have a kid, baby. Never mind. Yeah. Gotta be a motherfucking kid. Real shit. Because I was thinking about a wife and girlfriend. I know. Why do you have a wife and a girlfriend? Yeah, why the fuck do you have a wife and a girlfriend? They should be beating your ass, nigga. Yeah. But ultimately, it literally should be the person that you're with. It should be the person that you got to go home and lay down with, to be honest. I think that's the best answer. But shit. Yeah.
You got to spend the rest of your life with your baby father too. You don't have to spend the rest of your life. Your kids got to spend the rest of your life. You all got to communicate and shit. Yeah, we do. Until the child is old enough. No, you don't. Forever. I don't think so. Really? Does your parents communicate? Yes, they do. Every day. That's what's up. Yeah. Okay. But do they have to? Right. Because your motherfucking ass is a grown up. Yeah, they do because they talk about us.
Still. They still be talking about us. Right, right, right, right, right. Like, bull ass kids. Right, because I do know... Still sport. Parents, yes. I do know parents that don't talk at all. That is crazy. Yeah. It's parents that don't talk at all. And damn... None of their kids are grown. Or just don't talk at all. Just don't talk at all. And you know what is crazy? What you just said.
That's normal. The fact that you have to talk to your other co-parent for the rest of your life. And we've been so desensitized to certain shit that we think certain shit is unusual. Like, yeah, why wouldn't you speak to the child's other parent ever again? Even whether y'all together, whether they're grown or not. Yeah, why wouldn't you? Yeah.
But I'm just so used to, you know, where we grew up, you don't talk to your, you know, it is more likely that two parents don't fuck with each other. They don't talk. And your next partner don't want you to. Yeah. They be feeling some type of way. They in their feelings. You're like, yo, that's my kid's dad. And he's not going anywhere. Yeah, he gonna be here for a long time. So let's try to get used to it. And he's, I'm telling you, Rome is family. Yeah, he definitely is little bro. Yeah, man. For sure. And, uh,
Thank God my boyfriend doesn't have an issue now. But at first, it was, like I said, we've been so desensitized to shit. Yeah. And there's been stigma put on baby mama, baby father relationships. Oh, he ain't gonna ever stop fucking with his baby mama. He ain't gonna ever stop fucking with your baby father, whatever.
And then also... And you actually added, you know, you put some truth to that because you broke up with a nigga to be with your baby father before. I did. So, yeah. But I never cheated on a nigga with my baby father. Okay, but you went back to your baby father before. I did. And I let that nigga know this was what's going on. And this was hella years ago. Yeah, it was. You grew. But you're right. That stigma does play a big part in why people...
feel like, nah, because like I said, Chris at first. Yeah, I don't be with that shit either, but if I feel comfortable, that's all that matters. Yeah, so like you said, when it was new, when it was new, it was like, ah, y'all a little too close to me. Yeah, it look crazy. Yeah, it does, because Ron would call me one o'clock in the morning to vent to me about, but he don't know that he calling me to vent to another bitch until I answer the phone, but it's like, yeah, you really going to answer the fucking phone for this nigga? Like, the fuck?
it's one o'clock in the morning we just got finished fucking you answer the phone like so it was certain things alright we don't need to know all that like niggas don't even care about that part like come on why you mad cause you don't be fucking yeah so I love a truth teller I love a gay truth teller laughing laughing
And just like that, we're going to go and get the fuck up out of here. I have a very important meeting that I need to get to. But say bye to my best friend, y'all. No, no, no. Y'all, you say bye to my listeners. Hello? Okay. So, basically, since she's disrespecting you guys, I'll never have her on another episode again. All right, say bye. The right way. Bye. The right way. Ha!
You said you buy because that's the right way. Baby, I ain't never said nothing like that. You buy because you feel like it's the right way. And you love us and you talk about us every day. I do. I love the LGBT community. Yeah, because you want to be gay so bad. Oh, baby, if I wanted to be gay, I would be gay. Come on. There's nothing wrong with me. Like, yeah. Like, I know how to make a decision consciously. Like, oh, are you? Well, come on and join the club. Baby, I've been there, done that. Yeah, thank you. Ew. So...
I've been there done it I was only gay for two years and got more bitches than you ever got in your whole life yeah and you proud of that you proud that you stop no stop are you proud of that go ahead what you say say what I'm proud of what that was what exactly come on let's get one out of here yeah yeah it's terrifying we gonna get one out of here so in my deepest pain voice y'all we'll see y'all next week peace
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