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Whistleblower on the 28th Floor

2021/4/30
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Tim Harford: 本节目探讨了企业举报者面临的困境,以及如何激励更多人勇敢站出来揭露不当行为。通过Ray Dirks、Cheryl Eckhard和Martin Woods等案例,展现了举报者面临的职业风险、社会压力以及法律纠纷。同时,节目也分析了人们在道德困境中言行不一的现象,以及如何通过改变激励机制,例如设立奖励制度,来鼓励更多人进行举报。 此外,节目还探讨了企业文化对举报行为的影响,以及监管机构在处理举报案件中的作用。最终,节目呼吁社会应该保护和奖励举报者,营造一个鼓励举报的良好环境。 Ray Dirks: 作为一名保险公司分析师,我发现了Equity Funding公司的大规模欺诈行为。在向监管机构举报的过程中,我面临着来自公司高层的压力和威胁,甚至被指控内幕交易。尽管最终赢得了官司,但整个过程充满了风险和代价。我的经历表明,举报者需要有足够的勇气和决心,才能坚持正义。 Ron Seacrest: 我是Equity Funding公司被解雇的员工,因为我了解公司的欺诈行为,所以决定向Ray Dirks举报。我的举报行为直接导致了对Equity Funding公司的调查,也间接地保护了我自己。 Cheryl Eckhard: 我在GlaxoSmithKline公司工作期间,发现了波多黎各工厂的药品生产问题。尽管我向公司和监管机构举报,但最终却遭到解雇。我的经历说明,举报者往往会面临失业和经济上的损失。 Martin Woods: 我在Wachovia银行工作期间,发现了银行参与洗钱活动。我的举报行为导致我遭到公司报复,最终被迫辞职。我的经历表明,举报者需要做好心理准备,迎接来自公司和社会的压力。

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Ray Dirks, an insurance company analyst, uncovered a massive fraud at Equity Funding, involving the creation of fake insurance customers.

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The year was 1973. The company's bosses were hosting Dirks to lunch in their boardroom, high up in a Los Angeles skyscraper. A mundane, everyday event? No. The air in the boardroom was thick with tension. Ray, it's the 28th floor. But don't worry, the windows are locked. If that was a joke, Ray Dirks wasn't laughing. He'd heard those rumours about his hosts being linked to the Mafia.

They'd have every reason to be glad he fell out of a window. Equity Funding's bosses had been perpetrating one of the biggest, most audacious frauds in corporate history. And Ray Dierks was onto them. Because a few weeks earlier, the company had made a fatal mistake. They'd fired an employee who knew all about the scam. That employee was called Ron Seacrest, and he was furious.

He decided to take revenge. But who should he talk to? Sechrist knew he had to choose carefully. The fraud was so huge, so audacious, he feared that nobody would believe him. Except, perhaps, for one man. Ray Dirks analysed insurance companies and advised investors on choosing stock.

But Dirks wasn't your smooth-talking, clean-cut Wall Street type. Dirks was tubby and dishevelled, excitable, cynical and disarmingly candid. He had a reputation for being unconventional and a tenacious investigator. Dirks met Seacrest for lunch. Equity funding would soon be in legal trouble. But what's odd is that so too would Ray Dirks, the man who would expose the fraud.

His fight to clear his own name would go all the way to the Supreme Court. I'm Tim Harford, and you're listening to Cautionary Tales. I'm going to pose a moral dilemma. A university professor approaches a student. He wants to tell the student about a research project. It's on the effects of extended sensory deprivation, specifically on how it affects brain functioning.

He's performed his experiment on a few participants already. They'd all panicked, and their cognition was temporarily impaired. Some had hallucinations. Two even asked him to stop the experiment. But he didn't. It was just too interesting to see what would happen.

The professor explains that he needs to recruit more participants so he can continue his investigation, but he's worried that the university's ethics committee isn't going to approve his request. And you might well think he's worried with good reason. Now, put yourself in the shoes of the student hearing this rather unnerving story.

The professor explains that the committee can be swayed by testimonials about the research. So could you please do the professor a favour and write a statement to convince other students to take part? You'll need to sound enthusiastic. Be sure to use words like exciting and superb. If it goes well, he'll have more opportunities in future. He might even be able to pay you. Here's the dilemma.

Would you contact the university's ethics committee to report the professor? He's offering you money for a fake testimonial in support of a project that's clearly unethical. When researchers asked some students in Amsterdam that hypothetical question, nearly two-thirds said, yes, absolutely, they would blow the whistle. But then, with a different set of students, the researchers staged this experiment for real.

How many actually blew the whistle? Not two thirds. Not even close. It wasn't even one in ten. The take-home message from this research seems to be that we talk a big game about our moral standards, but we fall short in practice. But there's another way of looking at it, perhaps. When it really matters, we're not cowards or hypocrites.

Perhaps we're wise, because story after story tells us that whistleblowing is often far more trouble than it's worth. The insurance analyst Ray Dirks first learned the scale of wrongdoing at equity funding over lunch with disgruntled Ron Seacrest in New York. His jaw was soon on the floor. The details of the fraud are intricate. You can read them in Dirks' book, The Great Wall Street Scandal.

But they boiled down to a simple and astonishing fact: Roughly half of Equity Funding's life insurance customers were fictional. The company simply invented people and put them in their computer system. Then they sold on the future income stream from these fake policies to a reinsurance company. It didn't cross anyone's mind at the reinsurance company to investigate if these policies referred to real people. Why would it?

Selling on the policies gave equity funding cash today in return for promises of payments tomorrow. When tomorrow came, equity covered its bills by inventing yet more customers and selling their policies for more upfront payments. It was a giant Ponzi scheme. And like every other Ponzi scheme, it couldn't go on forever.

But the bosses knew that, and they had a plan. A clever one. Equity Funding was a publicly traded company. By mass producing fake customers, the C-Suite suits made it look like the company was growing quickly. And that made investors excited. The company's share price went up and up. The bosses used Equity Funding shares to buy stakes in other companies. Genuine companies with real customers. Just think about it. The chutzpah is breathtaking.

Over lunch, Sechrist calmly recounted what he'd experienced working at Equity Funding. Late one afternoon, he'd been asked by a colleague to work late on a project. Some filing. Special filing. Several managers sat around in a conference room, inventing fake names and giving them fake life insurance. Sechrist was pressed into service. He was bewildered. The others laughed at his confusion. The new kid who didn't get the joke.

Ron Seacrest told his story for four hours. He left Ray Dirks with a dilemma. Dirks, remember, was a well-respected analyst. People listened to him. Investors paid for his company's advice. And some of his company's clients had shares in equity funding. Shares that would be worth much less if what he'd heard was true. Perhaps even worth nothing at all. His clients deserved to know. This was just one man's story with no real evidence.

Should he really pass on rumours? Perhaps not, but how else could he investigate? Dirks decided to confide in a few trusted contacts. He got very different responses. His contact at the Boston company told him they didn't really believe the story, but better safe than sorry. They decided to sell all their shares. Another gave him a warning. Ray, you could ruin your reputation telling wild stories. You need to confirm this first.

Stanley Goldblum was the boss of equity funding. He was a towering weightlifting fanatic, not a man you want to cross. But so it was that the chubby, bespectacled Dirks found himself in a Los Angeles hotel breakfast room in his dated brown suit, gazing nervously up at a thunder-faced Stanley Goldblum, neck muscles rippling.

Stanley, how are you? Not good. Our share price has just gone down 17% on a single trade. Oh, that'll be the Boston company selling up. I had no idea they owned so many shares. Who else did you talk to? These rumours are preposterous, said Goldblum. But he made an offer. Come to the office, he said. Talk to whoever you want.

Dirks spent the morning being shuffled from meeting to meeting. Over lunch on the 28th floor, Goldblum tried to gauge how convincing his colleagues had been. What do you think now? Well, you guys certainly seem to make a strong case. What are you planning to do next? I don't know. I'm going to go back to my hotel room and think about it. Dirks did just that. He sat in his hotel room and thought. He called a reporter at the Wall Street Journal.

Then he talked to more ex-employees of Equity Funding. He talked to more investors. He talked to the Securities and Exchange Commission, the industry regulator. He talked to Equity Funding's auditor. And he talked to the company's former auditor, who'd been taken off the job perhaps for starting to suspect too much. That person had an alarming question. Where are you staying?

I'm at the Beverly Wilshire. Oh, how many people know you're there? A lot of people. OK, if I were you, for your own personal safety, I would move out right now. Dirks wasn't about to take chances. He walked a block down the street to another hotel and checked in under a different name. Cautionary Tales will return shortly.

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Cheryl Eckhard was a quality assurance manager at the pharmaceutical company GlaxoSmithKline. In 2002, she was sent to check out some worrying reports about a factory in Cidre, Puerto Rico. She was shocked by what she found. Water sources were contaminated. Environments weren't sterile. The factory's managers were cutting corners all over the place. One morning, the factory's director of manufacturing pulled Cheryl Eckhard aside

He wanted to know why she was showing up every morning, obviously close to tears. Eyes swollen from crying. Could she stop? It was making everyone feel awkward. You know, I do cry. I cry at night. I cry in the morning. And what I don't understand is why I'm the only one. Why aren't you crying? The Cedro factory in Puerto Rico felt like a nightmare to Eckhart. She spent eight painstaking months documenting all the problems there.

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Cheryl knew she'd done the right thing, but now she had another reason for crying at night. You lose your friends because your friends are people from work. It's difficult to survive financially and emotionally. That's an all-too-typical experience for whistleblowers, according to Kate Kenny, a professor at the National University of Ireland in Galway. Professor Kenny studied what happened to dozens of whistleblowers.

It's common for them to be shunned by former friends. They find it hard to get another job in the same industry. And that can be true even when whistleblowing is basically their job description.

Martin Woods had worked for the British police for nearly two decades when he decided to move into banking. Banks employ anti-money laundering officers to look for suspicious transactions. And when Woods started work for the London branch of Wachovia, an American bank, it didn't take him long to find some. High value deposits made in traveller's cheques with sequential numbers. Were the customers really just innocent tourists? It seemed unlikely.

In fact, they were working for a drug cartel. Drugs sell on the streets for cash. But it's hard to use big wads of banknotes to buy things in the regular economy. The cartels need to launder that money into respectable looking entries in the books of the global financial system. It turned out they'd laundered over $300 billion through Wachovia.

They'd used it to buy things like a McDonnell Douglas DC-9 airplane, which was seized on a Mexican runway carrying five tonnes of cocaine. But when Martin Woods started to report these dodgy-looking traveller's cheque transactions, were his bosses happy? No, he says, they were not.

"Martin, this is a disaster and it's all your fault." "Wait, what's my fault?" "I'm not going to get my bonus this year." At Wachovia, the boss explained, the departments that make the money give scores to the departments that provide support services. Bonuses depend on the scores, and the compliance department had topped the scorecard for years. It was getting stellar scores, it seems, because it was giving the money-making department what it wanted.

And what the moneymakers wanted from compliance was not asking too many questions. So now that I've started to do a proper job, they're giving the compliance department lower scores? Exactly, Martin. And that affects my bonus, you see? The bank was eventually fined. But for Woods himself, working life soon became intolerable.

The researcher Kate Kenny says whistleblowers often find themselves being targeted for the tiniest breaches of company policy. When Woods went to the hospital with a slipped disc, Wachovia said he hadn't called in sick in the precise manner specified in his employee's handbook.

They also told him off for helping the British police to investigate a corrupt African politician. That's a disciplinary offence. Dollar accounts have nothing to do with you. They're a US matter. The police phoned me from Mauritius. It was morning in London. They needed help right then. The US was still in bed. Fielding their car was a disciplinary offence. Because the police rang me up and I answered the phone. Yes. The stress drove Woods to the verge of breakdown.

He quit his job, sued Wachovia and settled out of court. When he applied for other jobs, he didn't have much luck. When other people see what happens to whistleblowers, it naturally makes them more cautious. Woods says he's often had conversations like this. You're Martin Woods, aren't you? Well done. I really admire what you did. Thank you. I'm an anti-money laundering officer too. And how does your bank react when you flag suspicious activity?

When I... Oh, don't do that. I like my job. I want to keep it. Those people didn't go into their anti-money laundering career intending to turn a blind eye. Like the students in the research experiment, they probably thought they would blow the whistle. But when faced with the choice for real, they chose a quiet life. Lots of employees at Equity Funding had wrestled with that dilemma too. Remember, Equity Funding had been making up fake clients.

Ray Dierks estimated that about 100 of the company's employees must have known, or at least had their suspicions. Yet only Ron Seacrest had done anything about it, and only because he had been fired. Why didn't the others blow the whistle? Some felt they didn't know enough to be sure. Some just wanted to keep drawing their paychecks. Some were uncomfortable enough to quit the company, but not to kick up a fuss.

One employee told Dirks that he had wrestled with his conscience and eventually asked the minister at his church for advice. You should think of your family. You mean I should keep on working for this company? For now, but look for another job. When you find one, leave. Should I report on what I know? You should think of your family.

A handful of employees did try to report their suspicions to various regulatory bodies, but it seems the regulators never took them seriously. And that's not surprising, because the claims about the fake insurance policies were so mind-boggling.

It would be like somebody coming to an analyst who follows automobile companies and saying, "Chrysler doesn't put engines in their automobiles. They use big rubber bands." I would have thrown the guy out of my office if he'd come to see me and tell me that. It was precisely because he expected that kind of brush off from the authorities that Ron Sechrist had decided to approach Ray Dirks. Sechrist had a strategy.

The more that Dirks poked around, he thought, the more equity funding shareholders would start to hear the allegations. Some would get cold feet and sell. And if the share price started to crater, the regulators would surely have to investigate. And that's more or less what happened. But if the SEC was grateful to Dirks, it chose a strange way of showing it. It formally reprimanded him for insider trading.

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Why do we instinctively feel that some things are right and others are wrong? The psychologists Jonathan Haidt and Craig Joseph proposed a theory: Moral Foundations Theory. They think we can trace our moral instincts to a few basic foundations, such as fairness, loyalty and preventing harm. The whistleblower's dilemma arises when loyalty comes into conflict with some other moral value.

Remember what Cheryl Eckard said about blowing the whistle on the substandard pharmaceutical factory? You lose your friends because your friends are people from work. The whistleblower's dilemma is familiar to everyone who's ever been a child. Tattletail or snitch is the worst of playground insults. Martin Woods had trouble finding another job after he left Wachovia. He thinks you can draw a line straight from the playground to our treatment of whistleblowers in the world of work.

As children, we're told, don't tell tales. And we tell our kids, don't tell tales. Why do we do that? We have an anxiety around their social grouping and their social acceptance. But we're telling them not to like people who tell tales. The whistleblower. But there must be something else going on, because we admire whistleblowers too. We root for Martin Woods and Cheryl Eckard, not the bonus-chasing boss or the cost-conscious factory director. We cheer on Ray Dirks.

Though, I must confess, I've stacked the deck. I deliberately chose to tell the stories of whistleblowers who are easy to warm to. I could easily have picked some more difficult characters, more awkward, or prickly, or priggish. When do we praise a whistleblower for doing what's right? And when do we worry that someone who snitched on others might also snitch on us? It surely comes down to how serious we think the transgression was that they blew the whistle on.

Suppose you were interviewing a candidate for a job and you heard they'd called the police on their former boss because he was extremely drunk after an office party and insisting on driving himself home. I'd think more of them for doing that. That's surely a case where preventing harm trumps loyalty to the boss.

But suppose the job candidate had called the police on their former boss because he'd jumped a red light on a deserted road when late for a meeting? That's someone I might not want on my team. And what if the whistleblowing case is hard to understand? As many are. Would I take a chance on employing the whistleblower if I had some other suitable candidate? It's easy to see why whistleblowers might struggle to find employment.

Remember the students in Amsterdam and the experiment with the unethical researcher? When given a hypothetical scenario, most said they'd blow the whistle. When actually put in that position, hardly anyone did. We get cold feet because we worry about making trouble for ourselves or for our families. We don't want to be a tattletale.

But this is a problem. Because if we want to find out when organisations are doing things wrong, we need employees to be brave enough to raise the whistle to their lips. The economist Luigi Zingales and his colleagues studied all alleged cases of fraud in big US companies over an eight year period. There were over 200 of them, including Enron and WorldCom. They wanted to find out who brought those frauds to light.

And despite the risks, it turns out that employees were surprisingly important. They revealed as many of the cases as the company auditors and the regulators put together. It makes sense. Employees are the ones who have the inside track on corporate malfeasance. And we want them to come forward when they have concerns. So how could we change the incentives around whistleblowing?

One answer, say some researchers, is to work with the grain of our deep-rooted instinct to be loyal. Leaders can choose to create a culture in which whistleblowing is seen as being loyal to the company, not disloyal to your immediate colleagues. There is another obvious way to incentivise people. Money. Martin Woods, remember, was a policeman before he worked for banks. He was used to paying for tip-offs.

If we bought information on where the drugs are, why are we not buying information on where the financial crime is? Why are we not buying information about where the tax evasion is? Why is that so different? Those are good questions. In fact, sometimes we do pay cash rewards to whistleblowers. And the evidence suggests that those rewards work, according to the economist Luigi Zingales and his big study of alleged corporate fraud.

In some of those cases, there was the chance of a payoff for information. And employees were three times more likely to blow the whistle. But few countries have made concerted efforts to reward whistleblowers. South Korea is one that has. Its government pays millions of dollars a year in rewards for tip-offs about everything from tax dodges to unsafe food to unlicensed medical products. It seems to work. In other countries, the rewards tend to be patchier.

They exist in some sectors and not in others. And that largely comes down to historical luck. The US, for instance, has a law called the False Claims Act. It dates back to the Civil War and it rewards people for saving the government money by alerting them to suppliers who rip them off. So if you work for a company that just happens to sell to the government, then you might get a reward for blowing the whistle. What kind of companies sell to the government? Pharmaceutical companies are one example.

Think of Medicare. The government buys lots of drugs. And if some of those drugs were made in a factory in Cedra, Puerto Rico, say, in a non-sterile environment, with contaminated water, well, the government might reward you for letting them know about that. Seven years after GlaxoSmithKline made Cheryl Eckard redundant, the US federal government fined the company and gave Cheryl Eckard the share she was due under the False Claims Act.

$96 million. Martin Woods wasn't quite so lucky. Just two years after he blew the whistle on Wachovia, the US introduced new laws to reward whistleblowers in the financial sector. If only he'd blown the whistle then, he'd have got $12 million.

But Woods says he has no regrets. Now, call me conceited, but I like me. I like what I stand for. I like my profile, my brand, and most of all, my integrity. Woods now works as a consultant, and he discovered why he'd initially found it so hard to get his foot in the door with a new employer. He was on a database at the Financial Conduct Authority, a British regulator. Banks could check the database for information on potential employees.

Woods was flagged as non-routine. But why might a regulator seemingly want to make life difficult for a whistleblower? Woods had his suspicions. When you blow the whistle on a bank, indirectly, you're also blowing the whistle on regulatory failure. This was certainly the case as well with insurance analyst Ray Dirks.

When the investigation into equity funding had run its course, 22 people faced criminal charges. Six went to jail, including the fanatical weightlifter Stanley Goldblum. But everyone knew the SEC would never have uncovered the fraud at equity funding on its own. A lone idiosyncratic sleuth had shown them up.

Yes, but, said the SEC, Dirks had talked through the allegations with clients who owned shares in equity funding, and some of those clients had then sold their shares. Couldn't you say that was insider trading? Dirks was furious at being reprimanded by the SEC. He took them to court and lost. He appealed, and after 10 years, got his day in front of the Supreme Court.

The SEC is a government body and before it can argue in front of the Supreme Court, it needs the approval of the United States Solicitor General. There was just one problem. The United States Solicitor General loved what Ray Dirks had done. So he gave the SEC permission to argue their case, but added a postscript telling the judges he disagreed with it. Dirks won his case. But the happy endings are exceptions.

When the economist Luigi Zingales asked whistleblowers if they'd do it all again, most said no. It wasn't worth the stress. Like the students in Amsterdam, most of us would like to think we'd blow the whistle. But if we want people to have the courage to follow through, we need to celebrate, protect and reward those who blow the whistle.

Cautionary Tales is written by me, Tim Harford, with Andrew Wright.

It's produced by Ryan Dilley and Marilyn Rust. The sound design and original music are the work of Pascal Wise. Julia Barton edited the scripts. Starring in this series of cautionary tales are Helena Bonham Carter and Geoffrey Wright, alongside Nazar Alderazi, Ed Gochan, Melanie Gutteridge, Rachel Hanshaw, Cobner Holbrook-Smith, Greg Lockett, Masaya Munro and Rufus Wright.

The show would not have been possible without the work of Mia LaBelle, Jacob Weisberg, Heather Fane, John Schnarz, Carly Migliore, Eric Sandler, Emily Rostock, Maggie Taylor, Daniela Lacan and Maya Koenig. Cautionary Tales is a production of Pushkin Industries. If you like the show, please remember to share, rate and review.

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