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Want a Healthier Mocktail? Here’s How

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节目主持人: 我注意到越来越多的人,尤其是年轻人,开始选择全年饮用不含酒精的饮料。虽然人们想要这些饮料看起来、感觉起来甚至尝起来像真的一样,但如果做得对,他们并不想念酒精。关键在于整体体验:外观、感觉和味道。重要的是,我们知道酒精对我们的健康有害,它与各种疾病有关,包括高血压、心脏病、中风和痴呆症。2023年,世界卫生组织表示,任何程度的饮酒都不安全。最近,美国卫生局也表示,酒精会增加癌症风险。所以有很多理由不喝酒。最近我也开始尝试无酒精鸡尾酒,比如无酒精Negroni。如果调制得当,使用合适的杯子、冰块和环境,有时我根本分辨不出区别。我最近不得不问我的服务员,她是否确定她给我的是无酒精鸡尾酒,因为它尝起来和感觉起来都像真的。 许多无酒精鸡尾酒为了弥补酒精的缺失,依赖于果汁、苏打水和糖浆,含糖量很高。在家制作或在酒吧点单时,可以要求减少甜度或添加少量水来制作更健康的无酒精鸡尾酒。 Kira: 我们的一位听众Jane想知道一些健康的无酒精鸡尾酒选择,因为她觉得很多无酒精鸡尾酒的含糖量很高。 Miles McQuarrie: 我们制作美味饮品的一个秘诀(其实不算什么秘密)就是加水。如果你想到一种含有两盎司杜松子的饮料......我们可以用两盎司水代替,只需调整一下分量,就可以不用添加太多糖和果汁。这样就会变得更轻盈、更清爽。想想柠檬水或酸橙水,里面有很多水。所以我们只需加一点水来弥补酒精蒸馏酒的体积不足。记住,无酒精鸡尾酒,就像鸡尾酒一样,应该小杯慢饮,而不是那种你大口喝掉的巨型饮料。你不需要添加很多糖或花哨的糖浆。如果你开始为了增加分量而添加更多东西,那就没必要做成大杯的。经典款鸡尾酒在稀释前通常只有三到三点五盎司,所以它不应该是12盎司的鸡尾酒。你也不必完全戒酒,也可以选择低酒精度的饮品,例如雪利酒和加强葡萄酒。使用这些来制作饮料是很棒的,这也不是什么新鲜事。这就像欧洲长期存在的开胃酒文化,你从这些低酒精度的饮料、汽酒等开始。我认为这些通常比完全不含酒精的饮料能提供更多有趣的风味,因为当你处理低酒精度的苦味利口酒和加强葡萄酒(如雪利酒)时,你会得到这种坚果味的氧化品质。你可以真正拥有非常美味的东西,但酒精含量比一杯葡萄酒低很多。无论你的情况如何,我认为你会发现,当你开始减少饮酒或不饮酒时,你可能不会想念它。这对我来说是一个很大的启示,因为很多时候这取决于预期。如果以正确的方式呈现,如果你和好朋友在一起,如果你身处那种环境,而且你不喝酒,你可能会觉得同样有趣、同样社交。我必须告诉你,如果你已经开始走无酒精鸡尾酒路线,今天和10、20年前大不一样了,那时人们点的是雪莉圣殿。你可以得到一杯非常好的无酒精鸡尾酒,这是一个非常积极、健康的开端。

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This chapter explores the health risks associated with alcohol consumption, citing the World Health Organization's statement that no level of alcohol consumption is safe and the Surgeon General's warning about increased cancer risk.
  • No level of alcohol consumption is safe (WHO)
  • Alcohol increases cancer risk (Surgeon General)
  • Alcohol is linked to high blood pressure, heart disease, strokes, and dementia

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See store or sleepnumber.com for details. Welcome to Paging Dr. Gupta. This is something new that we're trying, where I get to answer the health questions that you've been asking. Ever since we started doing the podcast, we would get a lot of you sending in your questions, and we thought we should create a space to just try and answer as many of those questions as we can. So this is going to be our shot at that, and we're going to start off with something that I'm sure you've heard about, dry January. Dry January.

So how many of you did dry January? Well, if you managed maybe a damp January, I'm guessing that you're still feeling better. But the question that we've been getting a lot of is, what if you want to keep that going? How big a thing is this? And what we're learning is that more and more people, particularly younger generations, they are starting to choose non-alcoholic drinks all year long.

And I got to tell you, as a father of three teenagers, this is something that I can totally get behind. Now, what I will tell you is that people who are doing this, drinking non-alcoholic drinks all year long, they do still want those drinks to look and to feel and to even taste like the real thing. And what they're finding out is that if it's done right, they don't miss the alcohol. That's the key. It's the whole experience, the look, the feel, the taste,

But even without the alcohol, they just don't seem to miss it. They feel that it's just as social, just as fun. And of course, again, we know that alcohol is not healthy for us. It is linked to all these various things, including high blood pressure and heart disease and strokes and dementia. In 2023, the World Health Organization, they said something that caught a lot of people's attention. No level of alcohol consumption is safe.

The Surgeon General recently weighed in, saying that alcohol could actually increase your cancer risk. So there's all sorts of reasons not to drink alcohol.

And recently, I jumped on this mocktail train as well. I love a phony Negroni, for example. But again, if it's prepared just the right way, proper glass, proper ice, proper environment, sometimes I can't tell the difference. I recently had to ask my waitress if she was in fact sure that it was a mocktail she had served me, because it tasted and felt so much like the real thing. So given all that, we're going to jump into this week's question. And Kira, who are we hearing from?

Hey, Sanjay. So Jane is one of our listeners, and she wants to know what some healthy mocktail options are because she feels like so many of them seem to have high sugar content. By the way, Kira is one of our show's fantastic producers. We're so excited she's here. Thank you for that question. Before we answer it, though, I wanted to turn to an expert who knows a thing or two about crafting the perfect zero-proof drink. You want me to open some and pour you some? Yeah.

What you're listening to is the backside of the bar at Kimball House. This is a place just outside of Atlanta. If you want to picture it, there are dozens of bottles behind the bar. There are hundreds of mixers. There is the perfect ice. There's all these glasses, the accoutrements, all of it to help craft your perfect cocktail, or in this case, your perfect mocktail. We're catching up with Miles McQuarrie. He is an award-winning mixologist. He's been honored by Michelin and the James Beard Foundation.

After the break, we're going to ask him for his advice on how to make the perfect, well-balanced, zero-proof beverage. This podcast is supported by Sleep Number.

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All right, we're back with Paging Dr. Gupta and bartender Miles' tip number one. One of our secrets to an A drink, it's not really a secret, but we add water. So if you think of a drink that has two ounces of gin...

We'll sub in two ounces of water and just balance it to get the volume right without having to add too much sugar and too much juice. And so it becomes kind of just like leaner and lighter. So you think about like a lemonade or a limeade, it's got lots of water in it. So we just add a little bit of water to make up for the lack of volume in an alcoholic distilled spirit.

Tip number two. Remember this. Mocktails, like cocktails, are actually meant to be small and savored. Not these gigantic drinks that you slurp down. You don't need a lot of added sugar or fancy syrups. If you start to compensate to make more volume to make it a big drink, it doesn't need to be a big drink. Like, cocktails before dilution are often three, three and a half ounces in a classic style drink. And so it's not meant to be a 12-ounce cocktail.

beverage, you know. And finally, remember this. You don't necessarily need to go all or nothing with alcohol. You can also go low alcohol.

Using sherry and fortified wines and things like that to make drinks are great. And that's nothing new. That's like apero and aperitivo culture in Europe for a long time, where it's kind of like you start with these lower alcohol drinks and spritzes and things like that. And I think those can often deliver a little bit more interest from a flavor profile than completely zero proof, just because when you're dealing with

Low alcohol, bitter liqueurs and fortified wines like sherrys. You get this nutty oxidative quality. You can really have, you can have something that is hugely flavorful, but lower in alcohol percentage than a glass of wine, like by a significant amount. Whatever the case may be for you, what I think you're going to find is that when you start to cut back on alcohol or maybe go no alcohol,

There is a chance you're not going to miss it. That was the big revelation for me. Because so much of this is about the expectation. Point being again, if it's presented the right way, if you're with good friends, if you're in that environment, and you're not drinking alcohol, you may feel just as fun, just as social. And I got to tell you, if you've started to go the mocktail route,

This is a different day than it was 10, 20 years ago, where people ordered Shirley Temples. You can get a really good mocktail, and it is a very positive, healthy first step. But back to Jane's question. Jane, you're spot on here. Mocktails are not perfect. We sort of alluded to this. Many zero-proof options, they rely heavily on fruit juices and sodas and syrups to try and compensate for the lack of alcohol.

But the good news is that if you keep some of Miles' tips in mind, you can still enjoy the fun of a really fancy drink without overloading on the sugar. So if you're making mocktails at home, or if you're ordering one at the bar, don't hesitate to ask the bartender to tone down the sweetness. Make a point of this. Or maybe, as we just learned, just simply add a little water.

That's it.

That's pretty good incentive. And if you want to hear more from Miles or learn more about the health impacts of alcohol, check out our episode called Your Shame-Free Guide to Cutting Back on Booze. We'll link it in the show notes. All right, that's it for today. If you have other questions for me, I want to know. Record a voice memo, email it to asksanjay at cnn.com, or give us a call, 470-396-0832, and leave a message. Thanks for listening. I love being here, and I'll see you next Tuesday.

Chasing Life is a production of CNN Audio. Our podcast is produced by Aaron Mathewson, Jennifer Lai, Grace Walker, Lori Gallaretta, Jesse Remedios, Sophia Sanchez, and Kira Dering. Andrea Cain is our medical writer. Our senior producer is Dan Bloom. Amanda Seeley is our showrunner. Dan DeZula is our technical director. And the executive producer of CNN Audio is Steve Liktai.

With support from Jamis Andrest, John D'Onora, Haley Thomas, Alex Manasseri, Robert Mathers, Lainey Steinhardt, Nicole Pesereau, and Lisa Namarau. Special thanks to Ben Tinker and Nadia Kanang of CNN Health and Katie Hinman.

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See store or sleepnumber.com for details.

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