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Conflicted Community: Karim Sadjadpour Interview Pt.1 – Iran’s Global Strategy

2024/6/12
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Thomas Small: 伊朗的对外政策策略与其国内局势及与西方关系密切相关，需要深入探讨。 Eamon Dean: 伊朗的全球战略目标是确保在中东地区拥有最终决定权，这与该地区其他国家的利益存在冲突。 Karim Sadjadpour: 伊朗的长期战略目标是将美国逐出中东，用巴勒斯坦取代以色列，并推翻美国领导的国际秩序。同时，伊朗政权的生存依赖于维持封闭的环境和反美立场，这与该国人民的愿望存在巨大差距。伊朗会根据自身利益选择性地使用宗派主义策略，并愿意与任何共享目标的国家合作，即使这意味着牺牲自身的国家利益。 Thomas Small: 伊朗与沙特阿拉伯的关系改善，以及中国在其中发挥的调解作用，表明多极世界格局下国际关系的复杂性。 Eamon Dean: 海合会国家计划与伊朗达成一项持久的不侵略条约，并向伊朗经济投资2500亿美元，这将对中东地区的地缘政治格局产生深远影响。 Karim Sadjadpour: 只要现任最高领导人阿里·哈梅内伊在位，上述协议就不太可能实现，因为伊朗政权的生存依赖于反美立场。 Thomas Small: 伊朗在中俄伊轴心中是相对弱势的一方，但其反美立场最为坚定，愿意牺牲自身利益。 Eamon Dean: 中国对红海地区的关注并非为了学习如何对台湾实施封锁，而是为了保护其在该地区的贸易利益。 Karim Sadjadpour: 美国国内政治和外交政策目标之间的紧张关系，阻碍了对多极世界形势的有效应对。中国和美国就中东问题拥有更多共同利益，美国应该更灵活地运用策略，而不是将所有国家都视为统一的轴心。

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Karim Sadjadpour discusses his upbringing in the United States, his family's background in Iran, and how his experiences living in various countries led him to focus on Middle Eastern studies and foreign policy.

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Iran is rarely out of the news at the moment: from the death of President Raisi (which we covered in our last Conflicted Community episode), to the rumours of Supreme Leader Khamenei’s illness, and with unrest inside the country ever present, it feels like a country at the precipice. So this week, we again look to Persia to make sense of what Iran’s global strategy actually is.

And this week, in a Conflicted Community first, we welcome a guest onto the show to help Thomas and Aimen on their way. Karim Sadjadpour is an Iranian-American who has focused on Iranian foreign policy and the region’s geopolitics throughout his career. After spending time in Iran (and evading arrest), he is now a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, and a contributing writer at the Atlantic and the New York Times, as well as an adjunct professor at Georgetown University’s School of Foreign Service.

In our first of two episodes with Karim, we discuss Iran’s global strategy towards foreign policy, how it intersects with the new multipolar world, and what they actually get from their axis with Russia and China. This first part is going out to all Conflicted listeners, but part two (coming out tomorrow on June 13th) is exclusively for Conflicted Community subscribers.

To listen to part two, you’ll need to subscribe to the Conflicted Community, where you will get bonus episodes like this one, alongside many other benefits, including our Conflicted Community chatroom, where you can interact with fellow dearest listeners, discuss episodes past and future, get exclusive messages from Thomas and Aimen, ask future Q&A questions and so much more.

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And finally: Conflicted Season 5 is coming soon on July 17th! Watch this space for more information…

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