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Israel rigged pagers and radios to explode across Lebanon

2024/9/18
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Jaina Raff: 以色列对黎巴嫩真主党实施了前所未有的复杂网络攻击,导致多人伤亡,美国官员证实以色列私下承认对此负责。此次袭击是针对真主党成员寻呼机的精准打击,显示出以色列情报和军事技术的先进性。 Elsa Chang: 以色列对真主党的两次袭击发生在以巴停火谈判陷入僵局之际,可能加剧地区冲突,甚至引发全面战争。这起事件凸显了地区局势的复杂性和脆弱性,各方需要谨慎处理,避免局势进一步恶化。 Daniel Estrin: 以色列利用真主党成员为避免被监控而改用寻呼机进行通信的弱点,实施了袭击;此次袭击可能削弱真主党的反击能力,但同时也增加了地区冲突升级的风险。真主党可能因为内部怀疑和通讯受损而难以立即反击,但这并不意味着冲突已经结束,以色列可能还有进一步行动。 Michelle Kellerman: 以色列在黎巴嫩的袭击行动加剧了地区紧张局势,阻碍了以巴停火谈判,美国国务卿布林肯对此表示担忧,并呼吁各方展现政治意愿以达成停火协议。埃及外交部长也警告说,以色列的行动可能导致地区全面战争。美国正在努力促成停火,但面临诸多挑战,包括以色列和哈马斯的政治意愿问题。 Jaina Raff: Electronic pagers belonging to members of the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah exploded on Tuesday, killing those 12 people and injuring thousands. The attack was unprecedented, a sophisticated cyber operation. A U.S. official told NPR that Israel privately claimed responsibility. Elsa Chang: Two unusual attacks come at a time when negotiations over a ceasefire deal between Israel and Hamas have stalled. What could this mean for the region and the threat of an all-out war? Daniel Estrin: So I want to walk through some of the things we've learned about these two enemies, Hezbollah and Israel, over the past 24 hours. First, Israel... Hezbollah is led by a shadowy figure named Hassan Nasrallah. And he was worried that his group's operatives' cell phones were being spied on. This was not a secret. This was said in a televised address that he gave from a hideout... in Lebanon, and his message was to his military operatives, get rid of your cell phone. Nasrallah said, please break it, bury it, lock it up in a metal box, do it for a week, two weeks, a month... These, referring to the cell phones, are deadly spies. Now, his speech was back in February, and around that same time, Hezbollah switched to beepers... Israel's leadership, remember, has not officially claimed responsibility for these pager explosions. But Israel's defense minister, even just a few days ago, warned that military action was the only way to stop Hezbollah's attacks on Israel and to allow tens of thousands of Israeli civilians to be able to return to their homes safely near the Lebanese border. And today, Israel's defense minister said the center of gravity is moving northward, meaning toward the Lebanese arena. He said that Israel is – allocating resources and forces there. And he said we are at the start of a new phase in the war... Well, what do you think the likelihood is of Hezbollah retaliating now? We're hearing from security experts in the region that actually Hezbollah has taken such a big hit with these latest explosions that it may not have the capacity to initiate a retaliation now. First, its communications have been hijacked. Thousands of its operatives are are wounded. There is likely very deep suspicion within Hezbollah that could spark a lot of questions about who may have collaborated with Israel to booby trap these pagers. And Amr al-Sabaila, the Jordanian security expert said Hezbollah may just not be in a position to attack now... you don't know the level of infiltration and what's next surprise Israel is preparing for you. And this means that going to war in such conditions might be a suicide recipe for Hezbollah. And what we know now, Elsa, is that Israel is not only fighting a conventional war against Hezbollah with airstrikes, we are now seeing a much more mysterious kind of subterfuge. Michelle Kellerman: The Israeli attacks in Lebanon have sent diplomats scrambling to head off a wider war in the Middle East... Egypt's foreign minister, Badr Abdel-Ati, warned that Israel's latest actions against Hezbollah threatened the whole region... Any unilateral actions towards the escalation must be condemned and is totally rejected and does not encourage any stability. Such dangerous escalation can lead to what we have warned from before, which is moving to the edge of a comprehensive regional war... Secretary Blinken has been trying to prevent that for months now, arguing that if Israel and Hamas can reach a ceasefire deal in Gaza, then things would quiet down in northern Israel and Lebanon. But he says the Gaza ceasefire talks have been challenging and take time. Time and again, we've seen that in the intervening time, you might have an event, an incident, something that makes the process more difficult... that threatens to slow it, stop it, derail it. Blinken pointed to the recent killing by Hamas of six hostages, including an American, as one example of an incident that has derailed the talks on a ceasefire and hostage release. He stopped short of directly criticizing Israel for the attacks in Lebanon... He didn't explain why he's not going to Israel this time around, though he sounds frustrated that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has not shown political will to get a Gaza deal done. Blinken says the U.S. has put forward some ideas to bridge gaps between Israel and Hamas. They are clearly resolvable, but... The key ingredient to getting a resolution of these outstanding issues is political will. That's what we're both looking for going forward. That's what's so imperative that we're going to get the ceasefire across the finish line. His Egyptian counterpart was more downbeat, predicting that the Israeli attacks in Lebanon will set back efforts to reach a deal in Gaza.

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Hezbollah members were killed and injured when their pagers exploded in a sophisticated cyberattack attributed to Israel. This occurred during stalled ceasefire negotiations between Israel and Hamas, raising concerns about regional stability and the risk of a wider conflict.
  • Israel is suspected of orchestrating a cyberattack against Hezbollah using rigged pagers.
  • The attacks killed and injured numerous Hezbollah members.
  • The incident occurred amidst stalled ceasefire negotiations between Israel and Hamas.
  • There are concerns about potential escalation and all-out war in the region.

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周三,黎巴嫩贝鲁特的哀悼者聚集在一起,埋葬了前一天被杀害的十几人。

周二,属于黎巴嫩真主党武装组织成员的电子寻呼机爆炸,造成12人死亡,数千人受伤。此次袭击史无前例,是一次复杂的网络行动。一位美国官员告诉NPR,以色列私下承认了责任。就在葬礼进行的时候,又发生了另一起爆炸。

消息传来说,附近有人寻呼机爆炸了。但葬礼仍在继续。

那是NPR的Jaina Raff,她在葬礼期间在贝鲁特报道。这次,真主党使用的通讯设备被引爆了。在黎巴嫩南部,至少有14人丧生,数百人受伤。请考虑一下。这两起不同寻常的袭击发生在以色列和哈马斯之间的停火协议谈判陷入僵局之际。

这对该地区和全面战争的威胁意味着什么?我们回来后将提供最新消息。我是NPR的Elsa Chang。感谢我们2024年《深思熟虑》节目的主要赞助商Anthropic的支持。Anthropic的Claude是为所有人设计的AI。Claude提供具有突破性的智能,其价格适用于繁重的任务。Claude

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这是来自NPR的《深思熟虑》。两天内对黎巴嫩真主党武装组织的两起袭击造成数十人死亡,数千人受伤。真主党指责以色列发动了袭击。一位美国官员告诉NPR,以色列私下承认了责任。但NPR表示这不是NPR的错。

周三,以色列国防部长约阿夫·加兰特暗示了以色列军方和情报部门的出色成就。他说,以色列正处于,“引用”这场战争“新时代的开始”。NPR的丹尼尔·埃斯特林从特拉维夫通过电话向我们带来最新消息。你好,丹尼尔。你好,艾尔莎。所以我想回顾一下我们在过去24小时里了解到的关于这两个敌人,真主党和以色列的一些事情。首先,以色列。

我们能否谈谈这些寻呼机?因为我们昨天了解到,真主党使用老式的寻呼机进行通讯。为什么?我以前不知道。是的,事实上,真主党由一位名叫哈桑·纳斯鲁拉的神秘人物领导。他担心他组织的特工的手机被窃听。这不是秘密。这是他在从黎巴嫩的一个藏身处发表的电视讲话中说的。

他说,这些手机是致命的间谍。现在,他的讲话是在2月份发表的,大约在同一时间,真主党改用寻呼机。据约旦安全专家阿米尔·埃尔-萨拜拉说,他与真主党内部人士有联系。我们今天和他进行了交谈。他说,这一切都是继去年10月7日哈马斯袭击以色列之后发生的。

一天后,10月8日,真主党开始向以色列发射火箭弹。此后,以色列经常袭击黎巴嫩境内的真主党武装分子。因此,真主党一直担心以色列实际上通过智能手机追踪其人员。因此,他们改用寻呼机。但是等等,以色列现在特别从这些爆炸中获得了什么好处?

好吧,请记住,以色列领导层尚未正式承认对这些寻呼机爆炸事件负责。但以色列国防部长甚至就在几天前警告说,军事行动是阻止真主党袭击以色列并允许数万名以色列平民安全返回黎巴嫩边境附近家园的唯一途径。今天,以色列国防部长表示,重心正在向北转移,这意味着朝黎巴嫩地区转移。他说以色列正在——

在那里配置资源和部队。他说我们正处于战争的新阶段的开始。那么,你认为真主党现在报复的可能性有多大?我们从该地区的安全专家那里听到,事实上,真主党在最近的爆炸中遭受了如此巨大的打击,以至于它可能没有能力现在发动报复。首先,它的通讯已被劫持。数千名特工

受伤了。真主党内部很可能存在非常严重的怀疑,这可能会引发许多关于谁可能与以色列合作安装这些寻呼机的炸弹的问题。约旦安全专家阿米尔·埃尔-萨拜拉说,真主党现在可能没有攻击的能力。

你不知道渗透的程度以及以色列接下来会给你带来什么惊喜。这意味着在这种情况下发动战争对真主党来说可能是自杀式的。我们现在知道的是,以色列不仅正在对真主党进行常规战争,进行空袭,我们现在还看到了一种更加神秘的诡计。这是来自特拉维夫的NPR的丹尼尔·埃斯特林。谢谢你,丹尼尔。不客气。这

以色列在黎巴嫩的袭击导致外交官们争先恐后地阻止中东地区爆发更大规模的战争。这是国务卿安东尼·布林肯在过去一年的大部分时间里一直担心的问题。NPR的米歇尔·凯勒曼正在开罗与他一起旅行。布林肯国务卿刚登上飞往开罗的飞机时,寻呼机就开始在黎巴嫩爆炸了。

他的访问旨在关注与埃及的关系,埃及是一个重要的地区伙伴,也是加沙停火谈判中的关键参与者。但埃及外交部长巴德尔·阿卜杜勒-阿提警告说,以色列对真主党的最新行动威胁到整个地区。他通过翻译发言。

任何导致升级的单方面行动都必须受到谴责,并且完全被拒绝,并且不会鼓励任何稳定。这种危险的升级可能导致我们之前警告过的事情,即走向全面地区战争的边缘。他警告说,一场全面的地区战争。

布林肯国务卿几个月来一直在试图阻止这种情况,他认为,如果以色列和哈马斯能够在加沙达成停火协议,那么以色列北部和黎巴嫩的情况就会平静下来。但他表示,加沙停火谈判具有挑战性,需要时间。一次又一次,我们看到,在此期间,你可能会遇到一个事件、一个事故,一些事情会使这个过程更加困难。

这可能会威胁到减缓、停止或破坏它。布林肯指出,哈马斯最近杀害六名人质,其中包括一名美国人,就是一个破坏停火和人质释放谈判的事件的例子。他没有直接批评以色列在黎巴嫩的袭击,

这些袭击已经掩盖了他自去年10月以来的第十次访问该地区。他没有解释为什么这次不去以色列,尽管他听起来很沮丧,因为以色列总理本雅明·内塔尼亚胡没有表现出达成加沙协议的政治意愿。布林肯表示,美国已经提出了一些想法来弥合以色列和哈马斯之间的差距。它们显然是可以解决的,但是……

解决这些未决问题的关键因素是政治意愿。这就是我们未来都在寻找的东西。这就是我们迫切需要完成停火协议的原因。他的埃及同行则更加悲观,预测以色列在黎巴嫩的袭击将阻碍在加沙达成协议的努力。NPR新闻,开罗的米歇尔·凯勒曼报道。

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