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Trump is taking a hammer to traditional pillars of soft power

2025/3/19
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马可·卢比奥:我认为美国对其他国家的援助不仅仅是出于人道主义的考虑,它同时也是为了维护美国的国家利益。通过提供援助,我们可以降低恐怖主义招募和反美情绪的风险,因为如果美国是他们活下来的原因,那么他们就更难被煽动起来从事反美活动。 在担任国务卿期间,我的观点有所转变,我支持削减美国国际开发署(USAID)的合同,因为其中一些项目并没有服务于美国的国家利益,甚至可能对美国的利益造成损害。 唐纳德·特朗普:我们向许多仇视我们的国家提供了数十亿美元的援助,我认为这是一个左翼的骗局。我们需要重新评估我们的对外援助政策,确保我们的资金用于支持那些真正与我们站在一起的国家。 我下令关闭美国国际开发署,并对美国之音等政府资助的媒体机构进行整顿,因为我认为它们是纳税人资助的激进宣传工具。 丹·格里克曼:我认为特朗普政府对美国和平研究所采取的行动是不可接受的。美国和平研究所是一个重要的机构,它致力于通过和平手段解决冲突,维护美国的利益。 美国需要软实力和硬实力。美国和平研究所、美国国际开发署和美国之音都是美国软实力的重要组成部分。削减这些机构的资金,将削弱美国在国际上的影响力,并可能导致更多冲突。 虽然每个机构都应该接受审查,但我们应该以正确的方式进行,而不是通过敌对接管或资金削减的方式。 艾米丽·冯:美国之音对中国的听众来说,曾是一个重要的信息来源,即使在它被视为“敌台”的时候。它为中国人民了解世界以及世界了解中国提供了一个窗口。 美国之音的关闭,将使中国共产党感到高兴,因为它减少了一个重要的信息来源,让中国人民更难接触到来自外部世界的真实信息。 吴晓平:特朗普政府削弱美国之音,让中国共产党感到高兴。美国之音的关闭,将使中国人民更难接触到来自外部世界的真实信息。 史蒂夫·卡帕斯:削减美国之音的资金,意味着美国将信息战场拱手让给伊朗和中国等国家。我们正在放弃一个重要的工具,这个工具可以帮助我们传播美国的价值观,并与世界各地的人们建立联系。 露西·霍恩比:美国之音塑造了人们对美国的积极看法,因为它提供了真实的新闻。虽然它并非总是报道正面消息,但人们尊重它所提供的真实信息。

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The argument for international aid is in part a moral one, but it's also been about U.S. interests. As then-senator Marco Rubio put it in 2017: "I promise you it's going to be a lot harder to recruit someone to anti-Americanism, anti-American terrorism if the United States of America was the reason why they're even alive today."Now, as secretary of state, Rubio serves under a president who is deeply skeptical of the idea of international aid. "We're giving billions and billions of dollars to countries that hate us," President Trump said in a speech last month. His administration shuttered the U.S. Agency for International Development. A federal judge said this week that move violated the constitution. What's left of the agency has been folded into the State Department.Trump has also moved to gut government-funded, editorially independent broadcasters like Voice of America, and attempted to effectively eliminate the congressionally-funded think tank the U.S. Institute of Peace.This sort of soft power has been a pillar of American foreign policy. Is the Trump administration walking away from it?We talk to former Democratic congressman and former secretary of agriculture, Dan Glickman, who sponsored the legislation that created the USIP. And NPR's Emily Feng) reports on the legacy of Voice of America in China.For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org).Email us at [email protected]).Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)