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Why are Israel's deals to exchange hostages so lopsided?

2025/2/17
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Benjamin Netanyahu
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Daniil Hartman
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Gershon Baskin
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Ilana Grichevsky
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Benjamin Netanyahu: 我与特朗普总统在释放剩余以色列人质问题上保持完全合作和协调,我们拥有共同的策略。释放人质是当务之急,否则将面临严重后果。我们必须尽一切努力确保所有人质都能获释,这是我们对国民的承诺,也是我们坚定不移的决心。任何阻碍人质获释的因素都必须被清除,我们将不惜一切代价实现这一目标。 Gershon Baskin: 我曾参与促成沙利特交易,尽管释放了大量巴勒斯坦囚犯,包括后来成为哈马斯领导人的辛瓦尔,但我并不后悔。拯救生命是最重要的,如果沙利特再被关押一个月,他的状况可能会迅速恶化。以色列政府更倾向于一对一的交换,但现实情况是,巴勒斯坦方面希望尽可能多地释放囚犯,而以色列人质的家属则希望尽快让亲人回家。内塔尼亚胡政府将人质问题政治化,使得许多以色列人认为与哈马斯达成协议就是支持哈马斯,这是一种错误的认知。 Daniil Hartman: 赎回人质是犹太教最重要的诫命之一,具有悠久的历史和文化根源。历史上,犹太人被俘虏往往是为了迫使他们改变信仰或索取赎金,因此赎回人质的伦理在以色列社会根深蒂固。不抛弃自己的人是以色列的自明真理,我们必须尽一切努力将他们带回家。试图通过立法或死刑来阻止未来的人质交换是不现实的,因为当人质被扣押时,我们最终都会付出代价。坚持赎回人质的价值观是以色列的力量源泉,这体现了我们对人道主义和团结的承诺。 Ilana Grichevsky: 作为人质,我经历了难以想象的折磨,但我从未失去希望,相信以色列会尽一切努力将我救回。这种信念是我生存下去的动力。即使在最黑暗的时刻,我也坚信我的国家不会抛弃我。最终,我获释了,这证明了我的信念是正确的。我希望我的经历能够激励其他人,让他们知道无论面对多么绝望的境地,都不要放弃希望。

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This chapter explores the reasons behind Israel's willingness to engage in seemingly unequal swaps of hostages for Palestinian prisoners. It examines the complex dynamics of prioritizing the return of abducted citizens, while acknowledging the concerns this raises among Israelis.
  • Israel's willingness to make lopsided deals to secure the release of hostages.
  • The social contract in Israel regarding the return of captured soldiers and citizens.
  • Concerns among Israelis about incentivizing future hostage-taking.

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An Israeli delegation is in Cairo to hash out details for the second phase of a ceasefire deal with Hamas. Under the first phase of the deal, Hamas agreed to release a total of 33 Israeli hostages – and Israel said it would free around 1,900 Palestinian prisoners and detainees.NPR's Jerome Socolovsky looks into why Israel has long accepted lopsided deals to bring back abducted citizens. For sponsor-free episodes of Consider This, sign up for Consider This+ via Apple Podcasts or at plus.npr.org).Email us at [email protected]).Learn more about sponsor message choices: podcastchoices.com/adchoices)NPR Privacy Policy)