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What Makes a Culture: An Indian Case Study with Jayant Bhandari

2025/1/8
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David Gornoski
通过广播和播客,深入探讨社会、文化和宗教问题,并应用模仿理论解释人类行为。
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Jayant Bhandari: 我对印度的了解仅限于我所处的上层社会,而大多数印度人的生活远比我经历的更加残酷。底层人民的经历难以言表,因为他们精神上受到了极大的创伤。我在印度的成长经历让我近距离接触了腐败的政客和官僚,这深刻地影响了我的世界观。我渴望逃离印度,体验世界其他地方的生活,但最终为了改善印度社会而返回。我在印度的童年并不快乐,当时的文化压制了快乐和享受。印度的医疗系统极其糟糕,医院和医生只在乎钱,不关心病人的生命。印度人极其物质主义和原子化,他们只关心个人利益,不关心他人。英国殖民者在印度建立的制度促进了印度的文艺复兴,但同时也导致了大量贫民涌入城市,加剧了社会问题。印度对新冠疫情的应对非常糟糕,大量死亡并非直接由病毒导致,而是由于医院系统混乱和管理不善。对印度抗疫的正面评价是西方媒体的夸大其词,实际情况是混乱和管理不善导致了大量死亡。印度是一个极度专制的社会,个人权力凌驾于法律之上,人们普遍漠视他人的权利和苦难。在印度,女性很容易利用虚假指控来陷害男性,而真正的受害者却得不到帮助。印度文化中的喧嚣、气味和混乱是人们逃避生存危机的一种方式,这导致了普遍的焦虑和不快乐。印度人缺乏饮食观念,他们不了解营养,饮食习惯不健康。文化是基因表达的结果,即使人们迁移到其他地方,其文化特征也可能长期存在。宗教在不同文化中会根据当地基因和文化背景而发生改变,例如在非洲和印度的基督教。一些文化能够吸收文明价值观,而另一些文化则无法做到,印度就是后者的例子。印度人缺乏战斗精神,这与他们社会中的专制和腐败有关。我建议年轻的印度人寻求真理,不要自欺欺人,并认识到印度的许多问题。印度的官僚机构效率低下且容易被蒙蔽,离开印度的成本很高,但许多富人仍然选择留在印度。我很少与印度公司合作,因为他们不遵守合同,并且我認為在印度投资的机会大多是虚假的。对印度的正面描述大多是出于政治正确和虚荣心,而忽略了印度社会的现实问题。我認為追求真理能够消除生存危机,因为真理能够让人们脚踏实地。由于印度人在温哥华的数量众多,我离开了温哥华。我認為如果美国能够重拾基督教价值观,这可能会对印度产生积极影响。 Surit Dasgupta: 印度文化经历了从相对传统到高度消费主义的转变,这导致了家庭之间的物质竞争。我认同Jayant Bhandari对印度社会现状的许多看法,并且他的观点给了我很多希望。普遍平等主义是一种神话,需要被摒弃。我对基督教的理解加深了我和Jayant Bhandari之间的共鸣,特别是关于自我反省的方面。许多印度人皈依基督教,但这需要对基督教教义有更深入的理解,否则只会沦为一种形式主义。 David Gornoski: 基督教并非自动产生积极结果,而是提供了选择不同道路的机会,而西方的积极方面与基督教的价值观密不可分。高信任度的社会建立在对人的尊重的基础上,而这种尊重源于对“人皆上帝的形象”这一观念的信仰。如果美国能够重拾基督教价值观,这可能会对印度产生积极影响。

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What does Jayant Bhandari highlight as the core issue with Indian culture?

Jayant Bhandari emphasizes that Indian culture is deeply materialistic and atomized, where individuals prioritize personal resource acquisition over communal well-being. He states that Indians often lack concern for others, as long as they can benefit personally, even if it leads to harm or death for others.

Why does Jayant Bhandari believe Indians need noise, smell, and chaos?

Jayant Bhandari argues that Indians use noise, strong smells, and chaos as a form of escapism to avoid addressing their existential crises. This constant drama and sensory overload act as a coping mechanism, similar to drinking alcohol, to suppress deeper emotional and psychological issues.

What does Jayant Bhandari say about the Indian healthcare system?

Jayant Bhandari criticizes the Indian healthcare system, stating that hospitals and doctors often prioritize money over patient care. He mentions instances of overcharging, unnecessary procedures, and unqualified doctors, particularly in cities like Bhopal, where many doctors falsely claim medical qualifications.

How does Jayant Bhandari describe the impact of British institutions in India?

Jayant Bhandari acknowledges that the British set up institutions in India, particularly in Calcutta, which catalyzed the Bengal Renaissance. He notes that the British identified and trained the best Indians to run these institutions, which contributed to India being seen as the 'jewel of the crown.' However, he also points out that the influx of impoverished people into cities like Calcutta diluted the benefits of these institutions over time.

What is Jayant Bhandari's view on the Indian government's COVID-19 response?

Jayant Bhandari describes the Indian government's COVID-19 response as disastrous, citing mismanagement, corruption, and the abrupt halt of transportation services, which forced millions to walk long distances to return to their villages. He estimates that around five million Indians died, not directly from COVID-19, but due to the chaotic and dysfunctional healthcare system and government policies.

How does Jayant Bhandari view the role of Christianity in Western civilization?

Jayant Bhandari acknowledges Christianity as a crucial moral framework for Western civilization, but he believes that the quality of people existed before Christianity refined and absorbed these values. He argues that while Christianity is important, it is not a universal solution, as some societies, like India, have failed to assimilate its principles despite exposure to Christian missionaries.

What advice does Jayant Bhandari give to young Indians?

Jayant Bhandari advises young Indians to seek truth and avoid self-deception. He encourages them to confront the harsh realities of Indian society rather than living in illusions, such as believing India is a superpower. He also suggests that moving abroad may not be an option for everyone, but self-reflection and understanding the truth can reduce existential crises.

What is Jayant Bhandari's opinion on Indian food and its impact on health?

Jayant Bhandari criticizes Indian food as being unhealthy, consisting largely of oil, carbohydrates, and sugar. He argues that Indians lack an understanding of proper nutrition and often wear vegetarianism as a badge of honor without considering the negative health impacts of their diet. He also notes that the hallucinogenic effects of such diets contribute to intellectual laziness.

How does Jayant Bhandari describe the Indian legal and police system?

Jayant Bhandari describes the Indian legal and police system as corrupt and tyrannical, where police frequently file fake charges, beat suspects, and even engage in extrajudicial killings known as 'encounter killings.' He notes that courts often do nothing to address these abuses, and many Indians accept this as normal, perpetuating a culture of tyranny.

What does Jayant Bhandari say about the Indian media's role during the COVID-19 pandemic?

Jayant Bhandari criticizes the Indian media for encouraging police brutality and harsh measures during the COVID-19 pandemic. He mentions that the media supported forceful vaccinations and the beating of migrant workers, reflecting a broader societal acceptance of tyranny and disregard for individual rights.

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Jayant Bhandari joins David Gornoski and Surit Dasgupta for a conversation on the sausage making of culture, corruption in Indian society, the anthropological roots of tyranny, how to build a high trust society, and more.

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