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Elon Musk using X to recruit baby mommas

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主持人: 马斯克利用其拥有的社交媒体平台X,私信网红、博主等女性,与其进行对话,最终达成经济协议,导致秘密怀孕和长期协议。这并非传统意义上的家庭关系,而更像是一个计划,其核心是马斯克认为自己有义务也有能力应对人口下降的问题。他至少有14个孩子,这些孩子分散在四个不同的女性中,其中一些女性从未公开露面。 马斯克与这些女性的协议具有很强的经济性,例如,一位女性预先收到了1500万美元,之后每月还将收到10万美元的抚养费,直到孩子21岁。这些关系并非传统意义上的浪漫伴侣关系,而是与严格的保密协议、法律团队以及马斯克的长期助手贾里德·伯查尔(Jared Birchall)监管的协议绑定在一起。这些女性可能会收到安全细节、大城市的房产和持续的每月付款,但她们也同意不公开马斯克的名字,并保持一定程度的谨慎,限制她们可以公开分享的内容。 艾什莉·圣克莱尔(Ashley St. Clair)的案例突显了这种动态,她与马斯克的孩子于2024年1月受孕,9月出生,马斯克为她提供了曼哈顿公寓和私人保安,但坚持要保密孩子的存在。他们的关系恶化,她现在寻求单独监护权,并指控马斯克减少经济支持以控制她的行为,并且自孩子出生以来只见过儿子三次。马斯克将他的孩子称为“军团”,暗示他将不断壮大的家庭视为一个结构化、目标导向的力量。 马斯克的动机源于他对人口下降的担忧,他认为人口下降比气候变化对人类文明构成的威胁更大。他将解决人口问题视为一个需要解决的问题,并试图通过计算和执行来解决。他利用其作为主要社交媒体平台所有者的优势,直接联系潜在的生育伙伴,并通过法律框架来保护整个过程。 马斯克与这些女性达成的经济协议是其计划的关键部分,协议中包括巨额的预付款和持续的每月付款,以及其他福利,例如住房和安全保障。马斯克对经济支持的控制似乎是一个反复出现的因素,例如,圣克莱尔声称马斯克减少了儿童抚养费以控制她的行为。蒂芙尼·方(Tiffany Fong)的经历也类似,马斯克在私信中向她提出生育孩子的建议,当她拒绝并私下与他人分享她的经历时,马斯克取消了对她的关注,导致她从X的收入分成计划中损失了收入。 马斯克利用X平台寻找潜在的母亲,提供经济保障,并通过法律机制来管理叙事,这种方法将影响力、资源和隐私结合在一起。马斯克在权力方面拥有优势,而这些女性则可能获得物质支持,但却失去了控制自己故事和孩子故事的能力。马斯克将他的生育目标融入到公司政策中,例如,他为生育孩子的员工提供经济奖励。他公开支持旨在提高出生率的国家政策,例如,他公开支持匈牙利为生育多个孩子的母亲提供的免税计划。 马斯克试图控制生育过程中的各个方面,例如,他试图让自己的名字不出现在出生证明上,控制儿童抚养费的流向,并管理公众的叙事。他的行为引发了法律和伦理问题,例如,这些关系是否自愿,以及在经济失衡的情况下,支持是否可以被认为是慷慨的。马斯克继续在采访和社交媒体上宣传生育价值观,但他很少承认具体的孩子或安排。他利用X平台招募母亲,并提供经济合同,这与他更广泛的生存、遗产和控制愿景息息相关。

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Reports suggest Elon Musk is using his social media platform, X, to identify and contact women interested in having his children. This involves private messages, financial agreements, and non-disclosure agreements, raising ethical questions about the nature of these relationships. One case highlights the use of financial support as a means of control.
  • Elon Musk's use of X to find mothers for his children
  • Financial agreements and NDAs involved
  • Ashley St. Clair's case and custody dispute
  • Musk's 'legion' of children and Roman military organizational reference

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just for you. Elon Musk, who has publicly famed declining birth rates as one of humanity's gravest threats, is now taking personal action to counter that problem, but not in the abstract. According to reports from the Wall Street Journal, Musk has turned his own social media platform, X, into a pipeline for identifying women who may be open to having his children,

He's reported to privately message content creators, influencers, and conservative personalities on the site, engaging in conversations that sometimes lead to financial agreements, secret pregnancies, and long-term agreements. Now, what's becoming increasingly clear is that this isn't about family in the traditional sense. It's more of a program. And the central to that program is Musk's belief that he has both the obligation to

and the means to repopulate what he sees as a declining civilization. Now, Musk has at least 14 known children with the actual number possibly higher, according to sources familiar with his private life. And these children are spread across four women, some of whom have never been publicly identified.

His strategy has been described by insiders as calculated, almost contractual in nature. One woman reportedly received $15 million up front from Elon Musk, in addition to $100,000 a month in support until her child turns 21.

These are real financial agreements tied to real children, according to the Wall Street Journal. Now, in that context, it's difficult to frame these relationships as traditional romantic partnerships. They're bound by strict nondisclosure agreements managed through legal teams and at times overseen by Jared Birchall, Musk's longtime associate and head of his family office.

Mothers may receive security details, real estate in major cities, and continued monthly payments. But they also reportedly agree to keep Musk's name off birth certificates and maintain a level of discretion that limits what they can share publicly.

The goal, it appears, is not only privacy, but control of the situation. Now, Ashley St. Clair's case brings this dynamic into sharper focus. She's a 26-year-old conservative commentator. St. Clair revealed in early 2025 that she had a child with Elon Musk.

conceived in January 2024 and born that September. The relationship reportedly began with a DM from Musk on X, eventually turning into a romantic connection that led to pregnancy. Musk provided her with a Manhattan apartment and private security, but insisted the child's existence remain confidential. Eventually, the arrangement deteriorated and

and St. Clair now seeks sole custody. She's accused Elon Musk of pulling back financial support as a method of influence and of only seeing their son three times since his birth.

In legal documents, the child was referred to by initials, but his real name, Romulus, was later revealed. This too fits a pattern. Musk refers to his children collectively as a legion, evoking Roman military organization. The implication isn't subtle, though. He sees his expanding family as a structured, purpose-driven force.

The motivation behind all of this comes back to a longstanding theme in Musk's public statement: population collapse. He believes declining birth rates present a larger threat to human civilization than climate change. In a 2022 tweet, he wrote, "Population collapse due to low birth rates is a much bigger risk to civilization than global warming." Now, Musk hasn't let that concern remain theoretical. He's moved from words into action.

This isn't just about solving a global crisis though. Musk applies to seem logic to his family expansion as he does to building rockets or cars. He identifies a problem, calculates the mechanics of a solution and begins executing

His unique position as the owner of a major social media platform is he can directly message potential partners without intermediaries. And from there, discussions can shift toward parenthood, support, and confidentiality, all with legal frameworks in place to protect the whole process.

Now, financial agreements are a critical part of this system. In one example reported by the Wall Street Journal, a woman was offered $15 million up front, followed by $100,000 every month until the child reached legal adulthood. Other reported cases include Musk covering housing costs, providing apartments in major cities, and paying for security details. Now, these deals often come with NDAs shielding the agreement for public disclosure.

This is all supported by legal filings, investigative reports, and testimony from involved parties. In addition to the upfront payments, Musk's control over the financial lifeline appears to be a recurring element. St. Clair claims that Musk reduced child support to maintain control over her behavior, and the offer of security and support in her account came with strings attached. Once she sought public recognition of their child in independent custody, the benefits began to diminish.

Tiffany Fong, a cryptocurrency influencer, described a similar experience. Musk allegedly propositioned her over DMs about having his child, despite never meeting in person. When she declined and shared her experience privately with others, Musk unfollowed her. This caused a measurable drop in her income from X's revenue-sharing program, where she had previously made over $21,000 in two weeks. Now, Musk did not respond publicly to the allegation, but the financial drop-off followed soon,

after their online disengagement. Now, these cases suggest a method. Use X to access and find potential mothers, offer them financial security, and manage the narrative through legal mechanisms. It's an approach that blends influence, resources, and privacy as a little bit scummy, all in service of a long-term reproductive goal for Elon Musk. Now, the

Now, the power dynamics are very clear. Musk holds financial leverage, legal infrastructure, and the public platform to shame them. The women, in exchange, may gain material support, but lose the ability to control their own story and their child's story. And beyond personal relationships, Musk has also integrated his population goals into corporate policy.

To companies like Tesla, SpaceX, Neuralink, and The Boring Company, he has promoted financial benefits for employees who have children. Musk's foundation has echoed this model, supporting families and encouraging pronatal decisions. These aren't passive stances, though. They're active incentives that mirror his own personal beliefs.

Now, Musk has also praised national policies aimed at increasing birth rates. He publicly supported Hungary's tax release program for mothers with multiple children. It aligns with the broader trend. Musk wants systems, not just individual decisions, that encourage higher reproduction. He applies logic at home, at work, and in the public policy space.

Now, there's also the matter of control for this. In multiple reported cases, Musk has worked to keep his name off birth certificates, control the flow of child support, and manage the public story. These steps suggest that Musk does not view his role as one of co-parenting, but rather as that of a benefactor, a kind of architect designing a system with controlled variables. His behavior raises legal and ethical questions. Are these consensual relationships, or do they become transactional,

under the weight of financial imbalance? Can support be considered generous if it's withdrawn during custody disputes? And what does it mean for a billionaire to use a public platform as a private recruiting tool for children? Now, the answers remain largely in the hands of Elon Musk. The mothers involved

mainly under NDAs, are bound by court agreements and they can't say anything. But Musk continues to promote pronatal values in interviews and on social media posts while rarely acknowledging specific children or arrangements. And his followers, some are supportive, others are skeptical. Watch as he builds a gigantic family, not just for companionship, but for continuity. Now, he uses X to recruit moms,

and offer financial contracts. And it's not a side story. He's the main character. It's central to his broader vision of survival, legacy,

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