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一位未具名众议员: 特朗普和马斯克对社保系统的攻击并非基于事实,而是为了削弱公众对社保的信任,最终目标是将社保私有化。他们散布了大量被广泛证实为错误的言论,例如声称数百万已故人士仍在领取社保金。这些说法已被美联社、ABC新闻、CBS新闻、华盛顿邮报和纽约时报等多家媒体机构驳斥。实际上,马斯克对社保数据的误解源于其对社保数据系统的不了解,该系统在处理1920年以前出生的人士的出生和死亡信息方面存在缺陷。2023年的一份监察长报告显示,几乎没有一个1920年前出生的人士因为信息错误而获得社保福利。然而,特朗普政府对社保管理局的破坏行为却令人担忧。他们削减了社保管理局的员工数量,这使得一个已经在50年来人员配置不足的机构更加难以应对日益增长的受益人数量。这种削减员工的行为并非为了提高效率,而是为了破坏公众对社保的信心,为社保私有化铺平道路。 一位未具名众议员: 共和党长期以来一直试图破坏社保并将其私有化。他们表面上声称不会触碰社保,但这与他们的实际行动相矛盾。例如,前众议院议长保罗·瑞安曾公开试图将社保私有化,而参议员罗恩·约翰逊也曾将社保称为庞氏骗局。此外,特朗普政府的前幕僚长米克·马尔瓦尼曾作证表示,他们需要攻击社保,因为那里有钱。马斯克也呼吁削减包括社保和医疗保险在内的福利支出。因此,共和党人对社保的攻击并非出于善意,而是为了实现其私有化的长期目标。最近通过的临时拨款法案也证实了这一点。为了维持社保管理局的运营,需要增加6亿美元的资金,但最终只增加了1亿美元,总共7亿美元。这表明他们表面上声称要拯救社保,实际上却在削弱其客户服务能力,以破坏公众对社保的信心。前社保管理局局长马丁·奥马利也指出,共和党的目标是破坏社保,以便将其掠夺。特朗普提出的减税计划虽然听起来很诱人,但实际上会损害社保基金,并最终损害低收入人群的利益。此外,马斯克拥有社保数据,这构成了严重的利益冲突。

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This chapter examines Elon Musk's claims of Social Security fraud and presents evidence refuting his assertions. It highlights the inaccuracies in Musk's claims and explains the limitations of the Social Security data system.
  • Elon Musk's claims are based on a misunderstanding of Social Security data systems.
  • The data often lacks complete birth and death information for people born before 1920.
  • A 2023 Inspector General report indicates almost none of the individuals with misinformation receive benefits.

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So let's be clear. President Trump and Elon Musk have launched a public campaign against Social Security. Mr. Musk is calling Social Security a Ponzi scheme, and both he and President Trump are spreading widely discredited lies about the program and its integrity. But the facts don't add up. Let me read just a few of the countless news headlines debunking their false claims.

The Associated Press says tens of millions of dead people aren't getting Social Security checks despite Trump and Musk claims. ABC News says Musk misreads Social Security data. Millions of dead people are not getting benefits, experts say. CBS News says new Social Security chief refutes claims of deceased people over 100 years old getting checks.

The Washington Post says, Elon Musk claims of Social Security fraud don't hold up, and here's why. And the New York Times says, millions of dead people on Social Security? The agency's own data says otherwise.

And in fact, the claims by Elon Musk are based on complete misunderstanding of Social Security's data systems, which often lack complete birth and death information for people born before 1920, before Social Security was established and long before electronic records were kept.

A 2023 Inspector General report said that almost none of these people born before 1920 with misinformation are paid benefits. But my constituents are also worried because the Trump administration is taking a wrecking ball to the Social Security administration. Far from making the agency more efficient and

They are undermining its ability to serve the public. And why are they trying to destroy the Social Security Administration? It's the first step of a longstanding effort by Republicans to dismantle trust in Social Security and slash benefits. The Trump Administration wants to close Social Security offices across the nation and slash the agency's workforce by nearly one in eight employees.

Social Security Administration, this administration is already at a 50-year staffing low due to years of underfunding, and it's serving more beneficiaries than ever. How will gutting its workforce help it to serve the American people? Well, the answer is that it doesn't. And in fact, it's very likely a move to undermine confidence in

so that the Trump administration can privatize it. And with that, I yield back. Remember, he yields back. I now recognize Ms. Moore for five minutes to strike the last word. Thank you so very, very much, Mr. Chairman and ranking member and members. I am reminded of what Maya Angelou said when she said, she said, when someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.

And then, of course, Rachel Maddow, who is a news commentator on MSNBC, often says you need to watch what people do and not what they say. And I think that those are very helpful admonitions in view of this discussion here today. We have our Republican colleagues swearing.

that Donald Trump will not do anything to Social Security. And, you know, from your lips to God's ears, let's hope, you know, I'm on your side. I'm hoping that you're right. But we have known that Republicans have long wanted to destroy Social Security and really privatize it.

As a matter of fact, former chair of this committee, my good friend Paul Ryan from Wisconsin, openly tried to privatize Social Security. My own Senator Johnson was the first person I ever heard call it a Ponzi scheme long before Elon Musk was on the scene. And Mick Mulvaney, during the Trump 1 campaign,

who was a former chief of staff, testified before the Joint Economic Committee that, yes, we

We need to go after Social Security because just like Jesse James robbed banks, it's because that's where the money is. And so I am, you know, I'm not convinced that they're not going to do it. Musk has just basically said we need to go after entitlement spending, which he designates as Social Security and Medicare. So I think that it's important for us

our Republican friends not to be willfully ignorant, to be useful idiots about this. You know, and so that's what they say. What are they doing? Let's look at that. This CR that we passed just yesterday, in order to flat fund

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The operations of the Social Security Administration, we would have had to have added $600 million. Instead of adding the $600 just to flat fund the agency, they add an additional $100 million. That's $700 million. Watch what they do.

You're trying to save Social Security, but you want to destroy customer service. We heard Mr. Estes, the new chairman of the subcommittee, talk about how awful the customer service is. Well, yeah, but that is part of the scheme, to undermine Social Security to the point that people lose faith in it. As a matter of fact, Martin O'Malley sent me this text.

He says they just want to wreck it so they can rob it. And now with this CR and the mass firings taking place at Social Security, as we speak, they are destroying customer service for the American people, driving this agency to collapse and putting at grave and serious risk the monthly benefits of 72 million Americans. That's the former commissioner of Social Security, Martin O'Malley.

And then President Trump tells us that he's going to cut taxes on Social Security. Well, that really sounds great. Send people, I heard, $5,000 checks. That really sounds great. And that, of course, would help people making $20,000, $30,000 immediately. But in the long run, they would be hurt the most and wealthy people would be helped the most. But in the meantime, it would cost money.

The trust fund, $1.5 trillion to do that. Watch what they do, not what they say. That would undermine Social Security tremendously. The Social Security payment accuracy is about 99.8%.

So I don't know how much waste, fraud, and abuse can be found in it. This really, the last point that I want to make is that Elon Musk is a tycoon. And I wonder what the value of this data is to him. It's immeasurable. So this is a serious conflict of interest for this man to have social security data when he is a tech.

Tycoon. Member's time has expired. Thank you so much, Mr. Chairman, for your indulgence. And I yield back. I recognize Mr. Boyle.

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