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The Effect Elon Musk’s Social Security Office Closures - Senator Raphael Warnock

2025/3/30
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参议员Raphael Warnock:我非常担心Elon Musk关闭佐治亚州五个社会保障办公室的计划。这将严重影响136,000多名依靠社会保障福利的居民。最初的关闭公告发布在其网站上,后来又否认了,这让人们对实际情况感到困惑。我需要知道,关于办公室关闭的最终决定权在谁手中,是提名人还是Elon Musk?此外,减少电话服务和关闭办公室将导致民众前往办公室办理业务的人数激增,这将使老年人的等待时间更长。我不认同将社会保障福利与富人的情况相比较,因为老年人的处境与富人截然不同。我要求提名人承诺保持佐治亚州所有社会保障办公室的开放,并增加员工数量以应对预约人数的激增,确保老年人能够方便快捷地获得服务。 提名人:我承诺将以事实为基础、规则为导向的方式运营社会保障管理局,并确保有足够的员工为民众提供最佳服务水平。

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Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Elon Musk podcast. This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads that shape SpaceX, Tesla, X, the Boring Company, and Neuralink. I'm your host, Will Walden. Thank you, Chairman Crapo. Mr. Bizigmano, welcome to you and to your family present today. Congratulations.

Thank you for your nomination. Thank you for meeting with me in my office a couple weeks ago. I enjoyed that. Thank you. Thank you. I look forward to continuing our conversation. I want to follow up on some of the issues that we discussed in my office. When we met, I shared with you my strong view that retirees in Georgia who rely on Social Security deserve reliable, timely delivery of their full benefits with world-class customer service services.

And you've got a long record of delivering that in the private sphere. That's why so many Georgians and I were alarmed looking at what's happening. Last month, when several news outlets reported that Elon Musk and his Doge team announced on their own website plans to permanently close five Social Security customer service offices throughout Georgia.

These closures in Brunswick, Columbus, Gainesville, Thomasville, and Vidalia would give Georgia the highest number of planned Social Security office closures of any state. Those five cities represent five counties with over 136,000 people who rely on Social Security benefits. But since I raised the alarm, since I made some noise about this,

Doge is suddenly out on X, I guess that's what you call the platform now, denying the closures that it posted on its own website. They posted those closures on their website. And now no one seems to know what's true or whether or not these announced closures will affect Georgians' access to their benefits or other services. So, sir, I know that you aren't currently at the Social Security Administration.

and perhaps you can't speak to the plans hatched by Elon Musk or Doge without you, but if you're confirmed to lead the agency,

Americans deserve to know who will actually be in charge of their benefits. I think we heard an answer from you a moment ago from my colleague, but I'm going to ask you again for the record. Where will the buck stop on this decision, specifically with respect to office closures? As someone who represents a state where they announced five closures, I made noise about it. It was on their website. Then they withdrew them and acted like I made it up.

They put it on their website. I just need to know when it comes to office closures, who's going to be making that decision? You or Elon Musk? Me. That's a good answer. And so I hope to be able to follow up with you on that. And I'm 100% available for you, sir. What was that? I'm 100% available for you. I appreciate that. And not with, you know, I appreciate that, but so that the seniors in my state

Those are the folks I'm concerned about. Yep. My own mom. That makes two of us. And others. Will you commit to keeping all field offices in my state open for Georgia seniors? You know, I've asked this question more than one time today. And what I will commit to is that there will be no decision made without you knowing about it. I have no intent to close field offices, but I've studied nothing on the topic.

So it's a little hard to commit to something. I think study is a good thing. And what we've seen so far is no study, no real knowledge about what's going on, just an effort to close offices to be able to announce that you're addressing waste, fraud and abuse. And we all know this is true, regardless of whether we're Democrats or Republicans, because then they have to go back and rehire some of the people they fired.

And you're a businessman, sir. And you said earlier you wouldn't operate in this way. The reason I'm asking about these field offices and these announced changes, because it could lead to an increase of 7 million visits to field offices per year across the country. The fact that they're now not allowing you to call on the phone.

an estimated 200,000 additional visits in Georgia alone, which is why, frankly, I think that it's a terrible idea. But if confirmed, will you commit to increased staffing at Georgia field offices to account for this massive expected increase in appointments and to help ensure Georgians can easily and efficiently make appointments? Let me be clear about what I'm asking. If you're no longer able to call on the phone,

which is a decision that's already been made, and you've got to go online or go to the office and actually have an in-person appointment, you're going to have a backlog. So I want to know what's the answer to that. How is it that I can assure the seniors in my church that their lines are going to get longer and longer? I disagree with the Commerce Secretary who said, well, if his mother-in-law missed a check, she wouldn't worry about it. I guess she wouldn't. Her son-in-law is a billionaire.

That is not the story of the seniors in my church.

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Will you make sure that they have access to find out what's going on with the benefits that they have earned? Senator, first of all, thank you very much. You know, I've spent my career overseeing financial institutions, and today I serve 3,500 financial institutions in America. And that means we have community banks, rural banks,

And I know what it means to have to serve neighborhoods and also serve rural communities. You know, my commitment is that it will be a fact-based

rule-based organization we run that we will ensure we have the staffing to get the best level of service for our constituents. So I'm giving you a longer answer, but we will have the talent that we need to get the job done at a service level better than today's. I appreciate the answer. I'm just trying to get Georgia residents, senior citizens involved

the benefits that they have earned. No one's giving them anything. They've paid into the system. Thank you so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. Thank you. Senator Blackburn. Thanks for listening to the Elon Musk podcast today. I appreciate your support and I appreciate you spending the time here with me today.

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