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25 language courses for the rest of your life. Redeem your 50% off at rosettastone.com slash flytoday for yourself or as a gift that keeps on giving. David, this is kind of interesting because I was reading an article about nostalgia for the 90s and in specific Y2K, and it also referenced the movie of our guest, Kyle Mooney, did a feature film called Y2K.

where he kind of reenacts the styles the telephones the media what was the web like then everything so it plays on the fears we all had when it was turning from 1999 to 2000 and the word on the street was computers wouldn't understand that and they would all shut down at the same time and right what would we do i do know someone that went to hawaii thinking that was like a deserted island

and saying i'm just going to go to hawaii like by the way hawaii is like going to you know boston it's the same big buildings lots of electricity it's got a best buy and a house so they weren't really escaping uh you know yeah i don't know what i'm saying so yeah so he's an interesting guy was on snl

And for nine seasons, nine monster seasons. And he had a lot. We talked a lot about that. We talk about his movie and he also did sketches before that. He does a lot of improv. He's actually very interesting character. He's not just sort of a run of the mill character.

uh comic or improv he's got a lot of smart guy dry quirky uh good neighbor was first time i saw him on youtube we talk all about that and how he sort of adapted his style of comedy to the rock and roll sporting type event that saturday night live is that was very interesting to me and he wrote and directed this movies for a24 so yeah and it's you know snl's a little more to the

To the world and not just specifically to like a sliver of an interesting, like improv group, you know, you can get away with more just if you're like a hardcore comedy fan on some things. And then sometimes you go to SNL and you've got to broaden it just a little bit, even though SNL does praise,

Very weird bits. You know what I mean? Very different. Yeah. With the live show on the soundstage and stuff, sometimes some sketches are more performative. There's a word. And some are writer driven. They do more films now. Yeah.

or videos and stuff. So you can be a little quirkier, drier and stuff like that. But he had a great run. He has a lot of fans. He has his own, his own lane of comedy, his own style. Uh, and this is a horror comedy. So,

I'm sure it's going to be. Horror. Horror. Horror. Horror is the hardest word. Horror is the hardest word. And if you say it to a loved one and it comes out wrong, you're in the doghouse for a week. Honey, do you want to go see that horror film? And if she didn't get the er part. It's as bad as saying, does this place have any booths?

Does your restaurant have booths? Yeah. Booths? What do you say, Dana? Booths or booths? I went to a horror film. And before that, we went to a restaurant and sat in the booths. And it was February. February. Yeah.

And we went and we watched clips of the movie interstitially. Everybody sounds drunk when they say these words. I went and drew a horror film. It has some bulls. It's either Tom Brokaw or a very inebriated gentleman. Well, here he is. So you're going to like Kyle Mooney. Kyle Mooney. Enjoy him.

I made a mistake. The last show, SNL, Lauren, during the meeting, he's on the stage. He goes, Dana, you look like you're reading the cards. Did he really? And I said, the reason I look like I'm reading the cards is because I am reading the cards. Yeah, King Tut.

Stay out of my business. You know, I was there, Dan. I saw it. I saw it in real life. And that was truly the exact interaction. It was because the card was moving to when they had a single on me and moving back to the double. So that was a little bit. I wasn't used to that. This is inside baseball, Kyle. I'm just saying we fuck up a lot. Don't know what we're doing, but you direct movies. You create art. I don't know. We're kind of.

We're so excited to have you on here because I just love, I was trying to figure out your sense of humor. I'm like, what, what, why is it so potent? You know? Yeah. I, I, you want me to try to answer that? No, Kyle. I was going to say, I don't know if you could. It doesn't sound serious because he's eating chips or something. It doesn't sound like the most serious. He goes, you're one of the best. It relaxes the guest. The world is hanging out eating.

- It's exactly what I do with my pals. It's always somebody chewing something and then like asking a pretty sincere, vague question, I would say. - Very, very, you're potent. Describe your potency. - Yeah, it's kind of a, well, at least when I first got to know you is through my kids. It was good neighbor. That was like, you gotta see this guy.

And and your gang doing that stuff and the man on the street. And so playing it so flat, real, you know, almost kind of Andy Kaufman, but not I'm not sure it's your own lane, but it was very it's it's such a skill. That's very sweet. I really appreciate it. And I do remember I feel like at the 40th.

Maybe I met you and you had very nice things to say and it was super meaningful. So I do appreciate it.

Well, I mean, I'm kind of like a show butter out there. I'm like, I'm a needy little clown. I'm dancing for my donuts. Isn't that? By the way, you know, so when I see other people going on like a rock and roll show like SNL and going in their own frequency and lane, it's just very interesting. And I just...

I don't, you know, comedians like, uh, like the person outside the, uh, the boundaries kind of like, you're just sort of doing your own thing. But anyway, I'm sure everyone has said this to you and spoken to you. And I mean, again, it, it truly does. Anyway, you say that it sounds very nice to me because you guys are heroes. So it's, it's, it's really awesome to hear that. I think like,

The challenge, of course, is like, how do you fit whatever you want to call that? If you want to call it subversiveness or just, or like you said, subtlety, like how do you package that in a way that works for the show, you know? Right.

Do you feel sometimes it's too far out of bounds? That's a problem. You know, you want something that works, but you, and you want to be innovative. I do think that like early on, I was probably trying to do too much of exactly what I was doing on, on YouTube and on, on our internet videos. I think over time I was able to sort of like, uh, better manipulate it so that like it was, it maybe fit more in sort of a,

consumable box. You know what I mean? And that was the fascinating thing. I think for me, I think always was like, just, I'm sure this goes with everybody. And so many people have said this, but just like what hits and what doesn't, because sometimes that stuff would play. And like, we did a couple of those internet interview videos and they did, they did work well, but some of the stuff is just, is,

too non-jokey and too dry or something for the audience. And it just is, it gets nothing. Well, that is the great thing about good neighbor is you guys were like pirates doing your own thing. Like you're, you just make your little,

pieces of work and you put them on youtube but yeah to snl i think it happens to anybody whatever their sensibility but the audience discovering you on snl happened over a period of time so they knew your kind of vibe and they would start to just be happy when they'd see you right at some point you got i think so and well yeah i mean i i feel like

Yes, you do. I did start to notice it. And definitely I feel like it was in probably the latter half of, of my time there. I remember there was a monologue. I did, I did a, a piece with chance, the rapper, he had a monologue and like we both, it was a rap written by Dan Bola about. It's always Bola. Yeah, exactly. It's always Bola. It was about like Chicago and the second city and, and, um,

It was, you know, chants set like, ladies and gentlemen, Kyle Mooney or something like that. And there was like an applause and like a sense of recognition, even though I'd already been on the show, but it still felt like, oh, OK, you do you do know me to some degree. And that was really special. And even when I was back a couple of weeks ago and I saw you, Dana, like.

they were, the audience was very sweet. And so at some point it happens, I don't know. It's sort of invisible. I don't know if you know when that moment is, but it is absolutely comforting for sure. It's super nice. I mean, you came out on, on during the monologue and then there's just this roar, you know, it's just like, ah,

And I, you know, for me, people always say this thing. Are you a fan of this person or fan of that person? If I see someone on TV and they make me laugh really hard, only one time I would call myself a fan. So if you're doing it multiple times over nine years, most people never make you laugh.

Yeah, no, I agree. I feel, I mean, like, and I'm not, this is not me trying to turn this conversation into promotion for the movie we're putting out. No, we definitely want to talk about the movie. We don't have to, okay? We have no outline and no, so let's just go wherever it goes. We don't want to hear anything else other than the movie. Go ahead. I mean, I will say, okay, it's called Y2K. Friday, December 6th is when it comes out. It's about...

two high schoolers going to a party in 99 and Y2K actually happening. But what I was going to say was that like, I think there are laughs in it. And I've obviously been to screenings of it and there are moments that get laughs. And to me, I feel the same way. I feel like if I go to a comedy movie and I laugh hard once, that is a win. It's such a fucking miracle. It's so funny you say that because I can watch, you can watch things and people nod and they go, that was pretty funny. And you go,

You didn't even laugh. You go, no, it's good. Or you pitch a joke at like read through or like, you know, rewrites and they go, yeah, that'll work. And I go, wait a second. Nobody laughed. You didn't respond at all. Yeah. I just go, it'll work for who? The others? The cattle? That's true. One laugh, if you can get like a trailer with

Like I remember this is an example of just Schneider doing Deuce Bigelow. He was upside down. You remember that? And he swings on like a upside down thing, the stretch. Oh, I don't like this. Fucking put it in the trailer. Don't ruin the movie. Anyway, he gets a big laugh. That sold the whole movie because you go, oh, that made me laugh. That's the kind of movie it is. It's goofy and off the wall, but it's hard to even get one laugh. So I get what you're saying. You get, if someone makes you laugh,

Now you're in, they cracked the code. Now you go, okay, I'll pay attention now. Yes. And speaking to what you're talking about, like that, yeah. Pitching something and it's sort of being like, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think you nailed it. And I feel like,

So many of us have probably experienced that in any sort of comedy writing room when like you're talking to somebody like, yeah, man, funny. It's funny. Just like saying the word funny, but like, yeah, not eliciting any, any response. It's, it's, it's very real and something that happens quite often. Let me, let me ask you a question. I like, so you wrote and directed. Yeah.

I co-wrote it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My friend, Evan, who I went to college with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The USC gang. Yeah. Yeah. Beck does a voice in it. Yeah. Yeah. What is it about? Because I know for those of the kids that don't know, Y2K was a big deal. It was a big scary deal. Yeah. Is it a scary movie or is it comedy scary or is it not like that?

I think comedy scary is an apt descriptor. I would say, yeah, it, uh, sounds so dumb. I think horror and comedy go together beautifully. Uh,

They're hard to weave. I mean, it starts out as like, I would say, attempting to be a pretty classic, iconic teen movie, coming of age movie, comedy in the realm of- Fun movie. We got a big party to go to. Super bad. Exactly. Yes. Yeah. I mean, like we were really- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There were so many movies in that era that came out that were sort of directed to teens a la Can't Hardly Wait or even the John Hughes movies or whatever. Sure, sure, sure. And then, yeah, at midnight things, you know, again, Y2K actually happens, machines come together and these robots start terrorizing these kids essentially. It's what we all thought there's a slim chance that could happen. Not a slim. People were saying it's for sure happening. Yeah, no, my mom was scared for sure.

Yeah. Someone I know went to an island. I'm like, what are you going to do there? Harvest coconuts? Do you really want to be alive when everything goes south? Like, why does everyone want to be alive? It was going to be supposed to be like chaos, right? Like a purge or something. Because computers can't understand going to double zero or something. Yeah. And it will all crash.

But it was fine. It was fully nothing. And it's unreal that it was nothing. Cause I really, I remember thinking what was going to happen. I said, yeah, they don't understand. We only made them to 99. They don't know what to do. And they're going to, I didn't know they're going to attack us like your movie, but they did say they might not work.

So the movie is in theaters right now, by the way. Yeah. Maybe somebody's seen it that's listening and I want to say thank you if you made it out. That really means a lot. That was very cool of you. Thank you. I think I was just curious about the writing of it. It sounds fun that you're starting out with a 90s comedy and just having all the kind of

either tropes or cliches or just having fun with it, right? It's just like this big. So I just want to know how your mind thinks when you're writing because I would think

You're like there's there's jokes that are like more hard, simple laughs. If someone falls down, that kind of thing. Then there's dry, weird things that go places you don't expect. And then there's the ones that are so off kilter that people who get them bond over them, you know, that they don't necessarily kill, but friends will quote them to each other for long periods of time.

Anyway, that seems to be, I mean, how much of the process of writing, do you get a big bulletin board and you're starting to put up ideas for scenes kind of like SNL or how did this one come about? I mean, yeah, initially it was just truly the seed of the idea. I woke up on New Year's Day, 2019, hungover and just that first like little concept of like, oh, there should be a movie about teens going to a party and like,

Y2K happens, machines come to get them. I pitched it to my friend Evan, who's a very talented screenwriter and filmmaker. We started riffing on it. And within a week, we had essentially the building blocks for what the movie is and what it would be. And yeah, I think the process was super fun.

I think for a variety of reasons, one, like the movie follows essentially these teenagers and they all represent different clicks of the era. So there's like a rap rocker, there's like the popular girl, there's the sort of our lead who doesn't really fit in anywhere. There's like a kid who's really obsessed with underground hip hop. And

One, it was like fun because I am because I perform as well. Like I get to sort of inhabit these characters in the writing process and sort of riff in their voice. What are you? What am I in real life? Who am I? In the movie. In the movie, I play a video store clerk. I wanted to be in it, but I knew I couldn't be like a proper teenager. But in the writing process, I feel like I'm

Yeah. Taking over these characters to some degree. That's interesting. Cause I would do it the exact same way. I wrote a script with a friend called idiots and monsters. And it's, you know, uh, that combination. And, uh, I would just get into the characters and just riff. And he was really fast with typing and stuff. Yeah. It's a, it's a good way to do it. Um, it's great. And then, and then the other component is like, yeah, I was 15 in 99. Evan was 14 and like,

like you were saying in terms of the gags and the jokes, there are some like pretty, yeah, classic standard visual gags. Uh, but then there are like also very specific references to the era that I think like it, you won't understand really if you were alive. And then there's, I hate to say it. I actually don't even want to say it, but I'll awkward humor, uh,

which um i get uh boner jokes there is definitely a boner joke good oh now you got one ticket right over there david spade did you say there's a babe that everyone loves is that isn't that usually in these movies that the girl everyone's pining over and she doesn't talk to you until this party that is that that is rachel zegler as laura in our film yeah oh that's

That's great. That's a big star.

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It became a little sentimental. I mean, there was that other lane underneath the laughs. Do you kind of have that sort of story element in this one too, or is it more just a balls-out comedy? Or is there sort of a sweetness or something to how it ties up? Give away the movie before people see it. Just tell the ending. I mean, yeah, there's definitely...

Yeah, it's weird that I don't want to be the person saying this, but yes, I think that there is heart to it. And like, it's essentially really about two best friends and about their friendship and that person that like means so much to you in high school. And that sort of carries through the entire movie. And there's some sort of intense drama associated with it within the movie. But yeah, I mean, like,

I love making Briggs the Bear and it definitely like maybe leans into quote unquote dramedy territory or something like that. But that is something that is exciting to me. And with this movie, like we're certainly going for laughs. We're also going for like, you know, scares. But there are like moments of attempting to like tug at your heartstrings. Whether we're successful about it, I don't know. But absolutely that that there is a layer of that. Yeah.

It is interesting. You can go on YouTube and stuff and look at how someone's in a shower and they open the curtain and what's the exact cutting angle to scare you. But I assume you had a director of photography that would sort of say, okay, here, this guy should pop out here. We don't see it. We cut there. I mean, it seems fun. I mean, I think those kinds of things are just...

just exciting to land through. Absolutely. Well, yeah, our DP was a guy by the name of Bill Pope, who is sort of a legend, uh,

In his field, he shot The Matrix. He shot Clueless. Jesus Christ. He shot all the Edgar Wright movies. So like, yeah, he's- Shot The Sheriff. But he did not shoot The Deputy. No, no, no. That's a sequel. That was a big misunderstanding. So you- What about A24 you're putting it out with? That's a big company. You're dialed in. Oh, I really appreciate that, David. Listen, that's a big deal.

No, you're doing what everybody I talk to when I always do my, if you had 300 million net, what would you do? Writers who write movies for studios and stuff. Every single one says, oh, low budget indies, you know, it's lower budgeted indies with total control. Yeah. Yeah. A24 has been truly awesome. And, and kind of unlike any studio or company I've ever worked with in, in the sense that

They just are very good at branding and marketing and putting it out there. It's been pretty impressive to see how they've sort of attached themselves to it. And I think got taken out the things that potentially could pull people to the theaters. It's been a cool thing to observe. You know what? Attach themselves is better than saying they're running from it.

They absolutely, and they have, there were moments where it felt like maybe they would or could. No, they're sort of, they seem to the average guy like me that's in the biz barely, that they are pretty selective and they don't do that much. Yeah, they do. They do good, cool things. That's good to get in with that. Paul Thomas Anderson does a lot of stuff with them. So when I saw this, even before I knew you were going to come on our show, I thought, oh, that's cool.

Kyle Mooney and a 24. I just thought it sounded like a good combo that you would, they would be smart about. There's a trust letting it be.

you do your thing, hopefully. And it would be good. It's not, they don't, did you finance it independently and then get with a 24? You would got with them and they, they were part of the financing and that's how you made it. Or is it a two-step process? No, they, yeah, they were there from the top. Initially when we had the, you know, early iterations of the script, um, Chris store, uh, who created the bear and is a director and producer came on to produce, uh,

And then later on, Jonah Hill's company, Strong Baby, came on. And about that same time, A24 came into the fold. And then once we did a couple passes, but truly it was one of those situations where once they were involved, things moved fast in a way that feels very unique. I didn't think that it was going to happen overnight.

As quickly as it did. And, and it did. And, uh, and I, I truly feel blessed. Yeah. Do you know why it's called A24? I do. I feel like I read, read once, but I'm curious. It's because when you, when you look up a production company in the phone book, they put an A in front of it. So then you, you'll call them first. You know what I mean? Dana, like in the old days and the yellow pages, they put A, A, A electrician. And then that's why you call them first. Cause it's the first one you see alphabetically.

it might be. Now, do you, do you think that, do you really think they're angling for the phone company? Uh,

Would that translate to Fox? Am I trying to back out of this joke? This is what they did. I'm not saying it was the right choice. No, I'm saying this is 100% fact that they want to be in the white pages. They want to be at the top of the outfit. I know we're doing a fun podcast and everything, but I'm not following you, David. That's such a good one and it just fucking boomed. No, it's not that. Take it to the rewrite table.

It's called an urban myth. But anyway, we'll get through the inside baseball. But how many days, shoot, did you get? Yeah, 23. I'm going to guess 20. Okay. Why? Did you just say 23?

No. Well, Dana, do you want to guess or no? Yeah, I'm going to guess. I'm going to guess. Say 29. Because 824 is a pretty big outfit and Kyle likes to spend money. Yeah, he likes to blow through money. At least that's what Beck told me. So I'm going to, for fun, I'll say 32. Jesus. And now I feel like I need, it was- 16. I think it was about 30 days. It was, yeah. I was going to switch mine to 29. I swear to God, I was going to switch. It was like six weeks. David.

Yeah. Oh no. Cause I think bus boys is 24. David's doing an indie film. Indie right now. Yeah. Cool. Pizza, pizza hut is producing all the Lego pizza in a collab. I feel like they did some early Ninja turtles stuff.

God, they should have. A24 didn't like his pitch. I should have pitched it to them. We didn't want to pitch to anyone. We're worse. I could definitely intro you to some folks, man. But he's going right into what you just did. Yeah, we're doing it. We're doing January. That's great. Yeah. Well, ours is called Y2J.

That works for the phone book thing. Ours is called AY2K. What is that lubricant? 2K jelly? KY jelly. KY jelly. KY2K. If I do a production company, it's going to be called KY jelly. Okay. Dot com. Okay. Dot org. Dotgasm. So in the fantasy world, because this is...

I'm assuming you basically love, you love the experience. Usually movies suck and there's too many chefs or they're long, hard shoots or someone drops out. I mean, so this sounds like just a pretty good experience in making this film. I would say, yeah, I would say so. I mean, again, I had my friend Evan with me

throughout the process. And so like, I don't feel, I felt more like a collaboration than just me. I didn't feel like the pressure was all on me. Again, we had Bill Pope. We had these incredible artisans. Did Evan do Brigsby Bear? Who directed that? That was directed by my friend, Dave McCary, who I actually have known since I was in fifth grade. And he directed videos at the show for about five seasons, I want to say.

But yeah, I mean, like with anything, I think we started writing, yeah, in 2019, we shot the movie in the spring of summer of 2023 and now it's out.

You know, there's always like going to be, there were moments of doubts and frustration for sure. But overall, it's been an incredible experience and I like it. And like, that's, I feel like a pretty important component is that I do feel like it's pretty good. People don't get how to go from writing to pitching to writing. It's just like a sketch. It can all be good. And then suddenly the edit looks wrong and you're like, what fucking happened? Absolutely. You're doing the best you can and it just somehow does not

Every script at some point, I don't know what page number, say you're trying to get to 90 pages for a low budget comedy and you get to 40 pages.

Or 45. And then there's just all this, it, it, there's a part, a part where it gets really hard. At least my experience. Well, that's why I, yeah, I always link with somebody who I know is going to be better at that than me. You know what I mean? Like, uh, and, and Evan is really great at that. And, and Briggs, who I wrote it with my friend, Kevin, and I wrote, I've written with Evan and Kevin. Um, and like, they, I feel like they're just very good at, um,

and like kind of leaning into like what the character payoffs and the arc and all of that in a way that like, I wouldn't say it's my forte per se. So like it's good to have somebody like that to lean on. When I do it, I just bark out funny ideas and I go, somebody write it down. Yeah. Well, I think, and so many people do that at SNL too, I think, you know what I mean? Don't they take notes of just,

The rewrite table of just people talking in case they come up with something funny. I've heard they transcribe. Is that crazy? I'm sure. I'm sure they do. I mean, like someone's just taking down while you're talking in case you run into something and they read it back. No, that was funny. You're talking about at SNL. Yeah. You didn't experience this though. You think this is happening now? No, we had no court reporters. We had a low budget, but I feel like I've heard that about something and they go, Oh, read it back. And I'm like,

Oh, someone reads it back. Maybe it's during pitches or something. I don't know. When I was there, there are definitely people that are taking notes during the pitches for sure. Oh, okay. At rewrites, I don't remember anybody writing what was being said, but I was personally writing it down. I feel like you're hearing pitches from everybody else and I'm making notes on my script of like, okay, that's a good move. Is rewrite table still on where the old read-through was? No, it's not.

It's an 8H. Rewrite table is? Oh, not rewrite. Rewrites, yeah, but the actual read-through is an 8H. But read-through is moved, but rewrites is still up on 17? No, well, it's on both. They actually do, when I was there at least, it was on 17 and 9. So there was the office on 9 that sort of overlooks the stage. I don't know if you know the one I'm referring to. Currently, like...

It's by Lauren's office on nine. And then they also have a rewrite table on 17. They got two going? Are you mad? No, I'm, yeah. It's a monologue. This is as mad as I get. I'm like, it doesn't affect me at all. I should probably get mad about this. You know, I got tweaked. I got tweaked because I saw some of the dressing rooms, you know, and I just had a couch and a

A sink. But the dressing rooms on 8H and up on 9, they're like, there's Christmas lights, there's jukeboxes, there's refrigerators. Yeah. So when you left, who, 80, Kate and Pete left when you left. Oh, you guys all together? Did you convince them all to leave with you or did you? Blood packed. I feel like, I mean, yeah, I don't know.

how it felt for you guys. Beck left the season prior, my eighth season, his eighth season. Your buddy from USC. Yeah. You feel weird dangling out there without him? Well, that season that he left was like the quote unquote, I guess you could call it the COVID year. It was like, we had done the year prior season

ended with COVID. So we did those at home shows, but that season, which I guess was maybe 2020 going into 2021, um, was the first year where like, yeah, table read was moved to eight H it was super spread out. We were testing, uh,

every day and uh each person was you didn't share an office with anybody everybody had their own individual space and every uh their own individual dressing room and like initially the audience was audiences were really sparse it was like only like you know first responders and there would be like whatever 30 people max or something like that in studio um so that didn't i feel like beck left that season i think some of us and i feel like 80 for sure said this like i

I was like, you know, I would like to experience one more year that's closer to the traditional version of it. So, so yeah, I don't know. I don't know what our conversation was at the top of that season, but I do think that I had a sense that most of those folks are probably going to go. So you didn't say you're going to go or would anyone make you stay? Would anything change your mind? Or were you just like, you talked about it with the family. You're like, I think I'm done after this.

what was my like my personal like reasonings i mean he just had a good run and well nine nine years yeah it's too much yeah it was a good run that's i mean it pretty much came down to yes i feel like at that point my close friends had left i had pretty much done what i was capable of doing you know what i mean i don't know that i had a ton of new moves left i feel like if the moment to like

breakout further was going to come. I don't know how that would have transpired. So like there was that component and then, yeah, there was obviously just that amount of time. That's a long period to be in that environment. And then I just got married and we wanted to start a family. Yeah.

Oh, so the family took. Oh, family came first? That's definitely what I told Lauren. Like, I want to have a family, man. And he's like, oh, and I understand. I understand. Well, where are your family? Well, is there, you know, because I'm around there now and young cast members and stuff. And so even during the summer,

You're thinking about what's going to happen when you go in there and maybe there's new cast members coming and going. And then so there's this this emotional weight. Even I think Kate McGinnis said it was just she got kind of just exhausted to a point. Oh, yeah. Just needed to get away from that.

Well, it's unhealthy. I feel like you guys talk about this. We must all agree that it's not a healthy place to be. There's no air in there. It's like, aside from everything else. I was going for that. I want to say that...

a producer over there i'm pretty sure is eric kenward who said this at some point he's like in whatever 20 30 40 years there might be some sort of study about like ptsd associated with people who worked at that show because it is such an intense onslaught and like yeah there it's it's definitely not good for you there's no way it is i mean it is in in terms of like

what it teaches you and the fact that you have this massive platform. But you get what I'm saying. Well, being unprepared and going on live and it'll be in the cards and seeing the writers trying to fit the puzzle and you go and your friends see it or family members and critique it. Yeah, it's just different than anything else. I think what didn't Chris Rock say to you or somebody, like if you can do SNL, if you can produce your own sketch and land it and go through that,

Then you can direct films. You have some sort of armor emotionally on you. Nothing frazzles you because everything is last second on SNL. Well, you definitely become way less precious about your work. All of a sudden, one, you have to turn around something every week, right? I think that was like the- That's the hardest part.

One of the most, and for me, that was one of the most profound things that I took from it was like, prior to working there, I would like make stuff or write stuff when I was inspired. And that could take, you know, a couple months. Like, okay, now I got an idea. I want to pursue this thing. Now you're in a situation where you like, you have to come up with something every week to have a chance to be on TV essentially. And for me, it was like surprising that I found out that I could do

write something that I was okay with each week. Not that it necessarily ended up on the show or that it was brilliant, but at least something I was like, this is decent enough. You have to run with a wispy idea. You're like, okay, I just finished the show. I wake up from the cast party. Just got back from the party. Monday morning, you're sobered up. What are you doing? What do you got? What is your long thought out sketch with all the beats? And you're like, it's nothing. I have nothing. I don't even know. Right.

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And they would have the conads would come on more than once. And so you'd have a character with a catchphrase and then it gave you a baseline. So what were your you had some reoccurring ones that would come back on update or in sketches or do you land many of those that you could then go, oh, I'll do this character this week. You know, I mean, certainly never anything like iconic that people are like, oh, Kyle's bringing Duggar.

Dr. Ding Dong back. It's so good. That actually, I'm going to pitch that. Fucking please. Dr. Ding Dong and I'm just going to see if that can land. That's comedy writing. And Kyle, we're going to do a ding dong with Fallon this week. And then eventually we'll get a dong from Kyle. Maybe hold it for Margot Robbie. That'd be fun. Uh,

Yeah, I had a few, like, probably. But towards the end on update, I did, like, I was doing Baby Yoda, and I got to do that a few times, and that was fun. And there were a couple of video pieces that we sort of would return to. I don't think, I don't know if I can really...

remember a time where like the show was asking for me to like you gotta do maybe maybe there are a couple instances where like you should write like one of these sitcom parodies this week yeah baby yoda former child star yes yep it's been a while since i've seen baby yoga hit the headlines

Baby. They're probably deep on whatever Mandalorian season something. I think they're making a movie. Maybe I would have had a good run. Did that happen during the, I don't know what 2010 to 20, but Tina, what they're called, they're not the knots, the secondary knots, but being fanciful. I know Tina Fey early on in this, but I mentioned Bowen Yang's iceberg character,

And then I see people like Sarah doing very fanciful costumes and big, you know, headgear. Like I'm Manhattan and there's a city on your head, which I love. I love it. It's just, yeah, I think that was a stylistic thing that wasn't as big when I was there initially. But I saw that come up and it's it's really makes me laugh. It's funny. Yeah. I mean, yes, I love what all those. I mean, like Sarah is such a good example of like someone who.

I knew prior to her, I knew her work prior to her being on the show. Oh, you did? Yeah. And she's the same person doing essentially a version of what she was doing then. And I think exaggerated and like perfectly for the show. It's good for the show. I think that fits right in. I mean, if she gets it, sometimes it may be too far out for the show. But when I saw that squirrel one and it was funny because

they were made she's gone after every after every punch line and i think someone in the band is trying to match it with noise from sticks right it's right and then every time it's slightly off it's funnier much funnier you know but uh yeah i don't know what you know there are for me um and others like me i would get people saying well you know you're silly you know and it's sort of like

you know, you just get up there and you start doing your thing and acting silly, you know? So what do they say to you? That's so easy. You're so funny. Naturally. You come up with this, make it up. They push you out on the soundstage. Yeah. They let me improvise a lot on the show. Everyone's always improv. Yeah. I think like for me, sort of, I guess the struggle was a little bit of like, I do have a peculiar voice and like,

how much of it is leaning too much towards alt-comedy versus something that a mainstream audience can appreciate and be into. So sometimes there would be questions of, what do you want to be? What do you compare yourself in terms of what we've seen? You know what I mean? And kind of figuring out my space. And I think ultimately, I mostly, I'd like to think, ended up pretty much doing

what I would have done if I wasn't on the show to some degree. You know what I mean? I'd like to think I stayed pretty true to

my i guess perspective if that makes sense yeah i would i would see that i don't i don't see you pandering or anything out there wait dana i just saw this is a newsflash it's a newsflash i'm looking at his impressions and uh no great it's so funny because i guarantee you half these you don't remember i assigned or they're just a look i mean right they just gave you a look he's got john kennedy is it the john kennedy that does the hearings that we always talk about him

Oh, I have no fucking idea. I don't. This is just your Wikipedia page. I was on, like, I did, I was on, like, I think WGN, like, a couple weeks ago promoting the movie and, like, the anchor was, like, just listing off all these impressions, these, like, kind of, like... Bradley Cooper. Exactly. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know. I'm sure that, like... Michael Jackson. You do Michael... That I do remember. I actually think my Michael was pretty good. Okay, good. But...

Can we get a little bit of Michael Jackson? Hey, I want a donut. Hey man, give me a donut. Why should I do it after you guys have already done it well? I just did donut. I never always wanted a donut that good. Jam on it. See it? That's funny. That was better than the donut one. That's so funny. You should do him. He's about to go in. Michael Jackson about to get a root canal. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit. Hit.

Michael Jackson right after a root canal. Michael Jackson at the breakfast place. I love that because it's getting... Put some jam on it. See, I like abstraction. Accurate impressions can be...

But you guys, you know, Dana, for instance, that like you excel at that. And then there are those of us who don't like that's never been something that's been like a part of my toolbox or whatever. You know what I mean? I would get thrown in every once in a while. I would surprise myself and do an impression on the show where I was like, OK, I hit that pretty well. But like I never was like the dude in that.

middle school or whatever like doing the perfect mr frank impression or something like that our history teachers yeah what about a read-through when you get one you're assigned and you get it right everyone erupts because they love it because you oh yeah and then when you miss it everyone goes they kind of they're like that's also i mean yeah i mean the the

journey from read through to like the state, the state, like actually Saturday when it's like my, my Johnny Depp is feeling really good right now. It's like the live show. And all of a sudden I don't fucking know how to do this. Have you ever had it stolen from you? You have to read through the sketch gets on and they replace you.

I'm sure I, yes, I'm sure I have. I mean, like I've, you know, once, once all the celebs started coming through, like, uh, fucking Dana stealing jobs. I know. I said to Lauren, you'll come back and you'll do all these. No, I just do Biden. And I, I have five catchphrases. I've done them seven times. I'm running on fumes. I mean, so it's funny. They go, who looks like Matt Damon? And we go, let's get Matt Damon. But I'm, I'm not like, you know,

Daryl Hammond or Kevin Pollak, there are people that are truly brilliant. I mean, I can, sometimes they come to me, but sometimes I, I, I've been out there. I, when I was doing, they assigned me someone. I don't really have a hook. Oh, and that's what I think that, I don't know that this was happening a ton when you guys were there, but we were getting a lot of, I mean, I was there during a pretty intense time.

like long strung out news cycle. Like it's, you know what I mean? I was there, Obama, Trump, COVID. Yeah. Biden. And, um,

We wouldn't often get the cold opens until maybe Friday at 5 p.m., but sometimes we wouldn't get them until Saturday at noon, and then you'd be thrown into, you're going to play this Louisiana senator. Yeah. Yeah. You hear me? When they have women starting to play, it makes me smile when I think about Kate McGinnon doing Giuliani.

Because like, I'm just going to do kind of a penguin-y villain with the... And just on a bat. It's like Sarah coming out as Matt Gaetz. Just the look itself. Yes, it was so funny. It was so funny that Louis put together. And he's a Star Trek nerd. So it was completely... Do you think there's a male cast member that says, I want to play Matt Gaetz? Or does Sarah just say, I want to play Matt Gaetz? I bet that producers are...

choosing sarah that's my guess sarah just this will be funnier it is funny i i think so and david i do want to say i want to give you your impression thank god i'm a i'm a big fan of your tom petty oh yeah yes tom petty let's go back and explain it you know that he had a whole thing because he used to open for me what did you have in your trunk you had a hat by the way

You wore the petty hat. Petty hat that I stole off a valet in New Orleans. It was like a gray hat that he used to kind of wear. And then I had the skinny glasses.

Yeah. We're like kind of colored. And I used to first say I'd put those on and do an impression of a girl on Adam 12, an old cop show. So I'd put like these hippie glass and go, what are you going to do? Bust us pig. That was the intro. And I'd put the carpet sideburns on little piece. That's right. You had the sideburns with the double sided carpet. Yep.

Needed double-sided tape at every gig. Mm-hmm. And my rider, I was an opener. No one had a rider. But I would bring it where the bit would fall apart. Couldn't do the bit. And then the hat. And then try to sing like him. And it was like a close. It got up to be a closer. And then SNL, we did it. Me and Dana did him and Bob Dylan. I did it alone. But I didn't have that many. But he was in, I feel like, one of those sort of we are the world. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I didn't realize that it predated the show. Oh, yeah. I brought that one in. Oh, yeah. He was my opener. Get that guy. I'm watching to see when I go on. I see the Seinbrens come out of the little suitcase. I see the hat and I go, I got to get on deck. Get ready now. I got to follow this guy. And a lot of times I have him cut the mic right before that. I go, yeah.

And then you go, there was some sound problem. I didn't hear the ending. And I go, I know what happened. But Spade was always like never like kind of trying to get the audience to love him. So he had a lo-fi kind of attitude. And it was really funny because toward the end of our little tour to Northeast, he'd come out in shorts like cutoffs.

and kind of drape himself over the little mic stand with a Coke and go, hey, what's up, everybody? I'm coming out. Isn't that special? Everyone's leaning in to hear me. Is this guy talking? Isn't that special?

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Our next one is fracture, Dana. Let's just... Fracture. We're going to go through this. So every year, Dana, I think this is it. This is the holiday. I killed it gift giving and then somehow...

You get socks. I send you socks. Oh, Dave, it's socks. That's basically a cry for help wrapped in cheap cotton, partner. This year, you're leveling it up with the no fail jaw dropping gift. Everyone will love. Wait for it. Fracture. Fracture. That sounds something like I did to my ego in the 90s with when I read reviews. What is it?

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That's like a hall of fame. I'll take that. Exactly. You starting to get it. Single, single prints, gallery walls, frame frameless. They've got it all. I'm telling you, I'm here to tell you, David, just upload your photo and boom, you're gifting like a pro. There's no effort required. That's good for you, which is perfect. So I don't need a toolbox because I have one screwdriver in the house.

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I did. I would do it. I did it a few times. I got really, I think I,

Prior to getting on the show, I would do character bits. I would do stand-up shows. And I did this character, Bruce Chanline, which I did at the show, which was like a shitty stand-up comedian. And that's something I would do in clubs and stuff. Can I hear a little bit of what a shitty stand-up comedian talks like? Hey, good to be here, right? Good to be in LA, Los Angeles. Yeah.

City of dreams. I like that. Everybody's got a dream here, right? Yeah. Yeah. Dreaming to get, dreaming of getting across town in less than an hour. That is a good dream. Yeah. I remember this character. I love that. I say this to myself. But then he would say something very depressing, but then he would be like, but I do really need some help out here. And I think I might- That's right. He'd get kind of down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I still do stuff like that to make myself laugh. If I go out there, to me, the funniest thing a comedian can say, say they're in Cleveland and just say, what's up Cleveland? That's their first line. It's so funny to me. Oh yeah. I love it. Yeah. I just go to Cleveland. Yeah. Yeah.

Whenever I do it now, which I've not done in a while, but a lot of like, have you seen this? It'll be like, of course, it's Christmas time. You heard about this? You seen this? That sort of thing. How much money would it take to get Kyle Mooney to play a private party? You don't have to answer that, but I'm just saying it's funny to ask you. How much? As this bad comedian.

Yeah, I have a child now that I have to support, so I will do and take anything. For hire. Even what? No, he's for hire, like we all are. Yeah, I mean, above 10K for sure. Super Bowl commercial.

Yes, please. This is what we all want, right? Yes. Most money for the easiest job. I always bitterly say that everyone turned down commercials in the 90s because that's a sellout. And I think about it and it frustrates me because we read ads.

Hours and hours a week for any product. We're done being Pearl Jam and fighting the fucking power. But I am happy when I see XS and all members doing giant commercial campaigns, knowing they're making a ton of money. It makes me happy. Good. Good for it. Because selling out is taking money and being in a really shitty movie or something. But it's not selling out when everyone knows you're there to get a check to do the commercial.

Absolutely. Yeah. It's the opposite of selling. I am so eager to get in that game. I've been, I've, I've had a couple of those opportunities, but I, if, if Bud Light is interested in doing anything with me, I'm like, I'm fully in. So people tell me I sell out every commercial. I go, you don't know me. I sold out starting during SNL. I was doing 1-800-COLLECT. Beep, boop, bop, boop, beep, bop, beep. You did sell out early. Not enough.

No, not enough. I'm going to think good thoughts about you getting a Super Bowl commercial or just some kind of long-term campaign. I appreciate that. For a phone company or...

Sure. I see you as like a tech guy. Like you'd be great the guy in the store, like the Target guy or Apple helper guy. What do you do with your wiring? Is more confusing or just passive aggressive. Whatever you do with that would be funny. I love it. Okay. Okay. All right. I'm just going to make a note. Dane, any love for this young man who's answered everything we've thrown at him? Oh, I...

Just casually, I just thought it was cool. I'm just such a fan of Jonah Hill. I just love the way he, as an actor, he's somebody who pops. It's pretty cool his company was part of your film, Y2K. Yeah, absolutely. And when they came on, that was really the moment that the movie came together and that A24 signed on. And I feel like he...

He made Superbad such... He was so incredible in that movie. And that movie has become such an iconic teen film that I feel like having that sort of association and that stamp does bring a lot of value to our... Is it flattering? I mean, it probably must be. Does he call you up and stuff and say he's a big fan or he reads the script or, you know, it's...

If something, I'm obviously he's a fan. Yeah, no, he's, he's always been very, he was, uh, we sort of became aware of each other or met each other prior to me being on the show. He was a fan of, uh, of our internet videos. He's, you know, he's from the LA area. I'm from San Diego. And, uh, I made these videos, these inside SoCal videos where like I play, uh,

a San Diego bro, essentially. And I know he really liked those. So he reached out early on. And then when he came, he hosted, I think twice while I was there. And each time he came on, he's like, we should do something maybe three times. And that's so special. I don't know how many times you guys got to experience that when like a host knows you and it's like, I want to do a da da da. You know what I mean? So yeah, he's always been really cool and supportive for sure.

Now your budget couldn't have been too huge though. This isn't like Aquaman, right?

Yeah, I agree. I'd say it's not exactly like Aquaman. It sounds like Aquaman the way you told me it, but it's got to be Aquaman. And that might be that I'm pitching it poorly because I really don't want to give the impression that it's like Aquaman. Jason Momoa texted me during this podcast and said, man, I'm going to Y2K Friday night. You in, bro? He's like, dude, this sounds like a fucking ripoff. Yeah, they're just doing Aquaman. Yeah, it's exactly like doing Aquaman.

Yeah, Seth, fasten your comedy safety belts because this movie is going to blow your mind. If you could do an ad with an announcer promoting Y2K, a television ad, what would it sound like? Y2K, they don't know what's going to happen. You know, that kind of thing. Yeah, maybe. You might. Wait, here he goes. Okay. Y2K.

When do you guys want me to go? Yeah, go. One, two, three. Y2K. Y2 not. 2K or Y2K? That's the question. Why Mooney Kyle K? December 6th. Oh, here comes Dr. Ding Dong.

December 6th. All right. Thank you, Kyle. We won't put you on the spot anymore. Such a fan. I hope to see you guys at the 50th and hang out and a fan of the show and a fan of you guys. So thank you for having me.

it's been a thrill and good luck with the movie and I feel you're gonna be doing a lot of films and that's just a great career making films that you control and love I believe but I do my best in between that big ass fucking commercials I want I want my ass to be huge in these commercials all right bye guys all right take care Kyle

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