SUPERFLY #65 - Rob Lowe Talks Hollywood
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But he hasn't yet. I'm a minimalist. I figured that out. I'm a minimalist. I think as you go along and you get to buy things you like and you do things, you start to get that way. And that's what I'm starting to get. You don't need a ton of things. I need elbow room. You like your freedom. You like different things. But once you have a car...

You got some clothes. It's good for the economy. You know, that's all I can say. If the whole country was me, we'd be in a deep depression. Oh, yeah. I'm out there. I do throw some back into the econ, but I try not to get too...

Too pushy about it. This is literally not the word I'm looking for. You were pretty close and it was kind of clear. You don't want to say, hey, I got some beans in my jeans, even though I'm showing off a teal pullover today. Do you want to mention the maker of the said sweater so that you may get a free one in the mail? I don't think I know. I know it's teal and I know it's for real and I know

I saw a basketball by Shaquille O'Neal. Even after a big meal, I'm not made of steel, but this is for real with teal. Dude, we just lost a thousand viewers. It's a big deal. They haven't even gotten focused yet. We're on in the background. They're flipping a smash. Dude, don't squeal. Please.

So dumb. I'm going to adjust my camera. Yeah. So here we are. We made it to another Superfly. Everyone's stoked. We do have a guest later, but right now I want to hear about anything that happened in the last week of note, and it better be of note. Should we tease? Tease the guests? No. No, go ahead. Ladies and gentlemen, can you do a drum roll sometime? Yeah.

Ladies and gentlemen, in a little bit, we're going to have our good buddy, the one and only, really, the hardest working man in show business. Been with us, America, been a star for a long time. Still looks like he's a high school senior, Rob Lowe. Rob Lowe, Brett Pack. Rob Lowe, Brett Pack. But first, Dana. I had an observation. Oh, good. Okay. So what do you do?

Like there's this really nice guy at this place I go to for breakfast and stuff. And he's one of those people that really likes to laugh. So he'll say something, but it's just perfunctory information. But he'll laugh like as if it's a joke. And am I supposed to laugh like that?

Like I walk in and he goes, hey pal, normally you come earlier. That's awesome. And then we're leaving. He goes, you know, you should adopt me. I mean, he's the greatest guy with an incredible sense of humor, but it's just informational. I want to give him a joke or something. I know. I think the problem is we're comedians.

And the same pilot that said when I got on, he saw me and then he goes, hey, we got our 737 on the lawn speaker. Hope our door doesn't fly off. You can't do jokes like that just for me because everyone goes, what the fuck? It's not funny to some people. And then when I'm also...

ordering and if you're a comedian anything you say you go do you guys have eggs here uh before 10 they go yeah what just you mean yeah just yes it's fine he just likes to laugh i think it's very sweet but i um yeah i like that he's laughing and everything that's like you write lol but after what they say

Yeah. I mean, it's sweet, but I feel like I want to give my... Like my joke with him is like, hey, where's Bob? Because you can't be him because you must be his younger brother. You look so much younger than when I saw you last time. And it wasn't my best joke, but at least it was somewhat humorous. Yeah. At least some reason to laugh, like a cue line, like, here we go. Yeah, I know. It's awkward sometimes, but it's still...

It's fun. Sometimes like people text and they go, Hey, like I get in a fender bender with a guy and he's like, Hey,

I guess I should get your insurance, LOL. And I'm like, yeah. And he goes, you weren't hurt at all, were you, LOL? I'm like, I don't know where we're going to stop joking and it's serious. I don't know what's going on. You can't put LOL on everything. Well, Laugh Out Loud used to be a big bar. Laugh Out Loud funny before these little memes came in. So most of the things are slightly humorous. We've got to come up with something, I guess, SH, slightly humorous. That doesn't happen. Yeah.

M-H, minimally humorous. Minimally humorous or K-F would be good. Kind of funny. Not a put down, but not a compliment. But laugh out loud. A-N, almost nothing. I mean, almost no reaction. By the way, no one's making reactions. They're just saying they bother putting R-O-M-L-F, roll on the floor laughing my fucking ass. I go, you don't have to go through all those histronics to tell me you're not even laughing at all.

Well, I don't know. Where were you? Do you remember the first time you realized you could add these little hearts or little pictures, a little dog, or the first moment you said, hey, wait a minute, I can take this just English language print with all this stuff. I used to put like 50 in there. For my age, I spent way too much of a part of my day looking for emojis. Maybe two to three hours. That's what they're called, emojis. Emojis. Emojis.

I put R-O-L, I put roll on floor, falling on ground, lit on fire with a bear trap on my nuts. That's how hard I laughed. Did you just make that up? Yeah. That's pretty good. It's not bad, right? Usually I think your ad libs are kind of pre-planned. You don't get a little note card up. Heather's holding a note. She scribbles a joke and holds it up. Yeah, just get little cue cards. I just read it. Yeah, but that was actually...

It's pretty good. Yeah, I'm always looking for where's the parachute, where's the fucking big rock, where's the ball of yarn. The shit I send people are like this. You put all your work into this stupid fucking text. It's always funny to say, what's up, fuckface? You know? That's funny. It's just always good. I like that. That's good. My pronouns are...

What's up, motherfucker? Those are your pronouns? Yeah, that's my pronouns. I put my pronouns are, and I put yarn, and then the fucking alien guy. Let's be honest, your pronoun is teal sweater.

Dude, everyone's buzzing about this. Callback. Yeah. It's pretty sweet, but I don't want to overdo it. I don't want to hear it in the comments. I'll block you, by the way. I'll block the shit out of you. I don't take... Have you ever read the comments and then realized the next morning, damn, I cried myself to sleep last night? Yeah. I think we, overall, I figure that people watch them and do comments as it's going because as the show goes on, it's now as new subjects. They're just sitting there. Yeah, they're just like...

kind of funny. Nah, don't care for that one. And then they're like, teal actually isn't a color of the rainbow. I'm just glad they're engaging. That's the thing. I guess it's good, yeah. It is fun to hear the thoughts because I'll read the thoughts, but if they get too out of control and too rough, then you got to

because people go, why would you block me? I go, well, I'm here to have fun. I don't need someone saying something horribly, crazily negative and threatening or something. You go, obviously I'll block you. I assume as two high school kids, let's get the Tommy boy and the Wayne's world guy, man. He goes, shut up, man. I'm typing. Just shut up. Tell him. Literally anyone I DM that, and I get pissed off if I really can't take it. They're like, Oh my God, I'm the biggest fan in the world.

Are you though? And that's what you chose to write. That's what you picked. And you thought that would fly. Have you ever posted something critical online? No, because I'm sane. An article, YouTube. No, I could imagine saying I disagree or I don't know what you're doing, but I wouldn't say anything where it would be so rough and

This guy in Michigan was writing me saying, I'm going to bust every bone in your body with a baseball. He was like literally threatening to kill me over and over. And I just wanted to, I should have posted it just to say, because he's in a band and I wanted to say, hey, this is, I've just posted this to show your friends. This is what you do in between band breaks. You've got a psycho behind you on the drums because he's writing all this shit. Then you see his pictures.

He's at practice. I'm like, quit acting like you're a nice guy, fish. It's usually like a wedding or something. The girls that send me the dirtiest ones, you should go to their page and send them at their wedding a week ago. I just, the anonymity. Hey, look at that word. Do whatever you want. I mean, I feel less alone. I get inspired by the comments if I'm watching a Beatle thing, because, you know, I'm kind of a fanatic.

And that's like John Lennon's In My Life or whatever it is. And then the comments are just like, I thought I was the only one. They're just like, oh, this band is a miracle. Oh, yeah, I like that. By the way, I swear to God, and it sounds like I'm lying. I was going to dinner. We talk about the Beatles so much. I thought, I've never asked Dana, because you like so many Beatles songs, if you had to love In My Life.

In my life. Oh, yeah. But we never mention it, but it's a great one. Is it Lennon? The places I remember in my life. I love you, my love. It was in an old Jodie Foster movie, I think, and I remember hearing it going on. The silliness is that John Lennon is like 25.

you know, and it's about his life. He's just a kid. Yeah. Um, and you know, obviously it's the melody and the lyric. Now that is the one Beatles song, or there might be just a couple, um,

where Paul and John remembered it differently. So Paul remembers, you know, there's the middle eight. Lovers and friends, I will be full. I love you more. So Paul feels like he was a big contributor or an important contributor. It's very Lennon. You know that that first part is so Lennon, you know.

I don't. There are places I remember, you know, just... But that's one... We're going to have Paul back on. Oh, yeah. We're going to ask Paul to come back on. I want to get Ringo on too. Because when they came out of the gate after the Beatles, I don't think it was John or Paul that had the first hit, was it? I thought Ringo sort of came out big and no one expected it. And so did George Harrison. Is that true? No. Okay. But they were...

Thank God it wasn't Paul. I was saying this bullshit too. I just remember that Ringo, I think would have been the one they wouldn't have expected to have done from. And then he had Photograph, which is a fucking killer. Oh, that was in the, that was in the seventies. Ringo had Ringo, a true star. I think it was called. And only 16. Big hit albums for sure. But back at the beginning, you know, they had Pete Best and they had to let him go.

And they Ringo always was a fan of theirs. Like in Hamburg, Ringo is with Rory and the hurricanes. And he would, he would hang out at the club. Oh, brought some of the fan club in. He just liked them. And Paul didn't see Selena. John would, would bring the songs to Ringo and George Harrison in the early days. It goes like this goes like this. And then Ringo's genius was picking the perfect drum thing to that song. Tom, Tom.

They were like me brothers. They were like me brothers. Peace and love, me brothers. Who had the first hit after the... You got balloons. Who had the first hit when the Beatles broke up? Go. Obviously, I don't know. The first mega hit was, I think... Band on the Run? No, George Harrison's All Things Must Pass. His double album is still the number one selling post-Beatle album. Oh, really? And he had a hit called My Sweet Lord. Oh, that was a fucking killer. Yeah.

McCartney had massive hits and Ringo and John. I mean, if you look at Dream No. 9 and Imagine and Watching the Wheels, Lennon had his stuff. I love that song. I'm just sitting there watching the wheels go round and round. Now, Gervitz took me to see Beatles, not Beatles, but McCartney and Wings, Killer.

Hey, I'm sorry. Am I rich? We're sitting up close. I'm sorry. Are these good seats? Must have been the Wings. Wings broke up in the 80s, I think, as a band, but the latest incarnation of Paul McCartney's. Really? I couldn't have seen Wings at the beginning? I thought, this is where people in the comments, I thought Paul McCartney and Wings was in, it was this band that has the name of a band, but you know. Well, I would have been, I can't even say these numbers. It's too embarrassing.

Uh, but okay. Let's do a few stories. Don't leave. Should I do any stories? Yeah. Oh no, we got to do, um, should we just bring out our guests and, and end it there? Yeah. And just so that, just so people know, and more of a tease, don't, don't do the laundry right now. Oh, I don't do the laundry right now. We're just going to discuss a little bit, the recession that's happening for all the different people who work in Hollywood, not, not the movie stars. And so Rob's very, uh,

He has some insight into that. He does his hit game show in Ireland for a reason. It's much, you know, you listen to the podcast. Yeah. And I'm going to ask him a real question. Is Bulgaria a real place? Cause I always hear that country and I, I gun to my head. I couldn't find it on a map.

Dane, I'm a little bit of a spendy Susie. A boozy Susie and a spendy Susie. I'm more of a boozy Susie, but yeah. You are a spendy spender, yeah. And a lot of our listeners are nice enough to write in and say, you look like you drank a lot and slept on your face. But that's just constructive criticism. Well, it's very concise and you don't really drink very much, I'll tell the fans. Just puffy. Okay.

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Oh, yeah. We also have the same manager. We always talk about Gervitz. Got to get the money. Rob Lowe likes money. You don't like money. I was just on the phone with him. I said, I got to go help team Gervitz with the two star clients. You're the star client because you're a hard worker. We like to take naps and take months off at a time. You actually work.

I, I, I, what is it? He goes, Rob Lowe, he always made money for his partners. Likes money.

Yeah, Rob Lowe. He always tells me, I could tell Rob Lowe and he'd say yes right now. You don't like to do anything. You hate money. Yeah, I guess you just don't like money. Rob, I just did a thing. I ran into Shaquille O'Neal and he goes, I don't know if I like that sweater you got on. I go, this is teal, man. It's for real. And teal is a very expensive color. I tried to trick him. And he goes, man, you're walking around trying to look like Rob Lowe.

why would way why would real oh that's so isn't that funny the last thing i saw robbie's running on the beach with his shirt off because of course i go on daily mail because i'm addicted to the sure you got it to the madness and it's not you don't look average you don't look normal no you look you're looking good he's he goes that tom cruise like

whatever that is. Tom Cruise. I love Tom Cruise. The guy's brilliant, but he doesn't take his shirt off anymore. Does he in movies? No. Cause he's smart. I took a lot of shit. It was like, I was like, you did really? God damn it. I, I, I would, you know, it's like, I said, frame it correctly. Like there's, there's a certain level with which the framing reveals, you know, that I'm in my third trimester.

Yeah. That I'm, you know. Of life or your pregnancy? Of my donut belly.

You were coming right at the camera. Side angles are the worst. You can look in the mirror and look at yourself and go, damn. Then go side angle. Whoops. That's where all the sins are. Yeah. You know, Tom Cruise runs with his hands straight up and down like this for less wind resistance. In case he has to crash. And he usually runs for about roughly 15 to 20 minutes through every movie in a full sprint every take. Yep. I'm like, okay, well, I want to ask Rob. He knows his way around the movie business.

And I have a question for Rob. Do, because I would say if I ran into Tom, I'd say the most impressive thing, if it's real, is not hanging off the airplane. It's sprinting with that kind of authority at 60 something because the hip flexors. So do you think they do slightly speed it up a little bit? No, I was, Tom and I, I think both,

I think I could be wrong, but I think we both initially learned to run from Emilio Estevez's running coach. There's a guy named- I like how you're the only one that calls him Estevez. Is this for the outsiders? What movie was this? This was, it would have been post outsiders. And it was a guy named Milan Tiff and he won the triple jump. Okay. In the-

He was in the 1968, famous 1968 American Olympic team. All right. That's a close city where he went 29-2. Bob Beamon set the record. I guess the triple jump may also have been a world record or close. Yeah. I'm not sure if he won there, but he was on that team. And anyway, we were all training with Milan and he was a big, the hand thing was the big thing. And then he also make it a flap, by the way.

there's this and then you make it like you make it a little flat down yeah yeah um hey what about this uh breakfast club reunion why don't you guys have an outsider's reunion

Well, we're doing St. Elmo's Fire Part 2. We are going to do that. What? What? Uh-oh, we just trended. Thank you. Thank you, Rob. Thank you. No, you are St. Elmer's Fudd. St. Elmer's Fudd. And everyone's coming back for this? Everybody's coming back. I mean, we got to get the script right.

I mean, you know, we've all been there for that one. Have you got a draft that you read and set? No, no draft yet. It's due any day. You were never really a Brat Pack guy per se, right? Because you had too many other things going on. I don't consider you part of it, but you crossed over with it or were you? I mean, I think I, I mean, I know this, that I'm on the...

cover of that new york magazine article that coined the brad pack okay so then you were part of that oh yeah yeah as much as i would like to deny it but you know what i like i i think it's cool but having a totally a name it's great those are great movies

John Hughes movies are not like those movies. Great movies. Great movies. Great hooky name for your club. Mare Winningham, Ally Sheedy. Yep. She's a great actress. Ally Sheedy. I know it all. You know it. You know it was in the St. Elmer's Bud. Yeah. Now that's good. But did you see this breakfast club? That was kind of cool. It was great. It was so cool to see them on stage. I haven't been able to see or find...

The entirety of the interview, I've only seen the clips, but it was super, super sweet to see everybody together and hear them talk about the movie. It's Eclipse World. Which one of those, if any, have blocked you? Go ahead.

All of them. Anthony Michael Hall has blocked you. That I find hard. He is a nice dude. I signed with the 50s. He is a very nice dude. Did you have him on literally? We had him on fly. I did. He was great. Fly. He was great. Charming, smart. Yep. Yeah. Great actor. Always was a great actor. He's amazing in that movie. Breakfast Club for me is the best of...

that moment in time. That movie holds up. Very cool idea. After that eye guise of the 80s perfectly. That was the one. Teacher Paul Gleason was great. Amazing. Grab some wood, bub. Why they don't make movies like that anymore? They don't like it. It's all dog shit. How about they don't? How do you like that? I'll sign you up for a movie like that. You want to do a movie?

Sorry, go back into Gervitz. All right. Now, Rob, we were going to talk to you a little bit about the state of the state because nothing too heavy because we're all a bunch of idiots. We literally don't know. Well, it started with his comment about the floor. Sorry to interject, but that was interesting. Yeah. Right. Yeah. The floor is shot on Mars with the space origin. It's easier for us to shoot on the outer rings of Mars. No shit. Yeah.

In terms of that's less cost prohibitive

than shooting it in Los Angeles. You know, I will tell you this, Rob, just to for sure interrupt you. Yes. Well, I did a game show, which those game shows are kind of interesting because they can always come back. Snake out, snake eyes. Snoke oil. Don't, no, don't do that. Snake oil. You know, David, the thing is you need to be careful when you wear a hat on a, on the one sheet. Is that, is that a Lorne thing?

It should be because it's true. I saw you in the straw hat boater and I thought... Oh, that's right. I had a straw hat going. Riverboat gambler, maybe.

I'm not sure. You know, it's the hat and cane thing. It's very stubby K. It's very early Minnie Mouse. It's fine if you're Hugh Jackman and you're in the Music Man. This is your best, Lorne. I haven't heard you do it in a while. This is a good one. He's admonishing me for my poster. Yeah. But to get out Hugh Jackman was, that's where, because it fits Lorne's rhythm. So Hugh Jackman, you know,

Unless you're tap dancing. But I think what you'll find is you're not. You don't want to be Clue Gallagher before 1960. So only Rob knows who Clue Gallagher is. I do not know who that is. I like the idea. How does Tarantino do it? He gets these guys from nowhere. He puts Clue Gallagher

I don't know if it was once upon a time, but whatever. But anyway. It was once upon a time. My story was before I was so rudely, rudely made fun of. David, it's your turn. Go. It's not really any story. It's kind of like Rob's. The funny thing about that was we met one night to talk about doing the game show. First of all, these guys are all great, except Fox. And then they said, you know, we talked about what it would be and it's sort of kind of interesting idea. And they go, we do it in LA, which is not that hard. And I was like, great.

So the next day we go to make the deal and Gervitz goes, okay, here's the deal points and you shoot it in Ireland. I go, wait, this wasn't even 24 hours later. It's been already been moved to Ireland. So the joke was you're hoping Tarzana, like what Rob said is that they just said, well, it's, it's cheaper. And the bigger picture here is I get a lot of complaints and a lot of concerns. Of course, we've got a lot of talented makeup people here. We've got a lot of union guys, uh,

Why aren't we doing more here? And it's really a big problem that everyone kind of skim jobs over, but it's a problem. And people are leaving town. I've been able to a number of times say, if I'm doing it, I'm going to do it only in LA. I did that with 911 Lone Star. That was going to move to, it was going to be in where it took place in Texas. It was going to be in Austin.

And I was able to keep that production. That's unreal. Five seasons, right? Five seasons. I was, I turned down an amazing production.

series that was going to shoot in New York. I asked them to move that to LA and they couldn't do it. So they just didn't make it at all. And because I have, we know those people that make the, you make the, make the movie business work, the technicians, the grips, the, the electrics, the drivers, the caterers. They all moved here for one reason. Everyone's here because it's Hollywood. It's Tinseltown and we're losing that.

And we can't just have high taxes and crime. You got to have something to offset it. And it's like, oh, it's Hollywood. We make movies. We got to be here. And it's hard to keep arguing that when they keep going. We got to make it incentivize it. Right. And listen, it's not like California is gun shy about throwing money at people. No shit. My favorite is the way they draw the line here. Exactly. We'll throw money at every...

in class of person that's ever been invented but when it comes to the people that make hollywood go that's the most famous thing about the country i think they're gonna have to prove their right here's 20 billion for homeless actually we lost but it's somewhere and then they go hollywood you're gonna get 750 million aren't you excited i'm like for the whole fuck we can't have a b in front of it nothing

That's like four shows. You do one avatar. That's 400 million. Well, and also you don't know if you're going to get it. That's the other thing. It's that's really the other thing because you, you can't even, what are you going to do to go into casting pre-production, all of that stuff, hoping you literally hoping you literally actually win the lottery. And it is, it's a lottery. Yes. It's been, it's bananas. It's like, I mean, look,

Hey, don't get me started on the state of the state. This is the idea to get you started. There is one metric that is a little sidestep I read about, that the cost of living in LA for all the people we're talking about, a basic home is about a million bucks in Los Angeles County. I believe that. And so that's another driver of people kind of going, I don't know if actually all these

people who make movies, the grips, the crews, everything, whether they're moving out of state, cause while there's more production in Atlanta, so I'll just, I'll step outside that thing. But, uh, Austin, it has to be a cause to live, but it'd have to be someone taking it on and funding it that we have to at least match the incentives. Yeah.

Sure. Which there is a bill and the state is. Yeah. Even if it's a push. Yeah, there's a bill. There's a bill now that apparently is going to be really, really helpful. My understanding of it and I haven't I haven't read the bill itself. But my understanding of it is that it would make California at least on par with New York. Yeah. New York has more than us. Right. Right now. Oh, God. Yeah.

Because I never hear any, I hear Boston a lot. I hear New Orleans. I hear Austin. There's a lot where they're making it very easy. There's also things like this is where, you know, there's enough blame to go around equally. And look, I'm a believer, the IATSE crew are the greatest crew.

uh, artisans and technicians in, in the world. But the unions, I think also have to come to play ball. I, I, I just saw a study of a movie that was granted. I don't know.

how long the shooting schedule would have been for, because that would affect the number, but their number for their grip grip department, which for those of you who don't know, the grips are the people that build the sets, move the walls, do all the construction. The budget was $59,000 for run of the movie in Hungary in LA. It's $59,000 for the key grip, uh,

So, and how many grips average? Yeah. I mean, 10, 12. You can, you can see why, you know, if your goal is to get your movie made, your goal is to get your movie made. Right. Yeah. I, we did a small movie bus boys that Theo and I wrote and we, I asked, can we do it in LA? And Theo was nice enough to say, cause he's, he's out in Nashville, spends a lot of time in Austin and,

And we were talking about Austin. Then I said, is there any way we can do it here? I know it's just a drop in the bucket. It's a small movie, but just the idea we're doing it here. And selfishly, I like it here, but it's also like, I can't, I got to practice what I preach. I got to try. Some movies are set other places and it's hard to cheat, but it's hard to cheat Hawaii if you're in LA, you know, whatever. But we did it here and every single person in that crew was coming up going, I love that you guys are doing it here. I love it because we have nothing. We just, it's, everyone's,

scraping by and i think we're not here to really complain and bitch about everything we're just trying to say people should just know about this and i don't even know the easy fix there's no easy fix but fuck it's hollywood the other thing i would add i would add is we're going to be fine we you know it's sure we have the ability to go to different places and do things like that and we fight to keep it in la and sometimes we have the weight to do it other times we're

We don't. And these subsidies don't go to the stars. They're not subsidizing you or me. What they are subsidizing are the working men and women that make this industry work.

And I think that there can be a misconception. It's like, oh, these, you know, very famous actors are getting subsidized. It's not us that's being subsidized. It's the people that need it. The people are getting crushed. I think 18,000 jobs have been lost in the last few years. We had the pandemic and

Then we had sort of a recession and we had the strikes and I don't have enough information. The input of that, whether some of the studios said, okay, we get that. We'll just go to London. We'll go to Ireland. So it is very complex. But those are the people we're talking about who laid down roots in LA, have worked here for maybe multiple generations.

And the work is really dried up. It's a severe recession in the interior of that business. I mean, studios have never been this actual physical studios are just sitting there. So we, you know, we want to keep it and we want to do it in a smart way. But I, if Rob wants to run for mayor next time, the cycles up, you know, Karen Bass is, you know, she's doing fine. But I think that I would, I would support. He hasn't read this bill. So it'll fit right in.

Great. I'm already happy. I haven't read what's in it, but I like it. I love it. Yeah, I'm with you guys. The three of us don't get affected as much. Even Busboys, we funded ourselves, so it was a little more, but at that level, it wasn't that much more. But when you get these budgets that are $50 million, obviously these movies are getting bigger and bigger, and $50, $100 million, it matters. The sort of competitive threshold is 30%. You can get 30% of your budget back.

It's that high. Wow. Yes. Yes. That's, that's sort of the stand. That's, that's, you know, basically Atlanta, England, Hungary, Canada. And look, it fluctuates a little bit. Sometimes it's a little bit less, sometimes a little bit more.

My favorite is now is, hey, you're going to go shoot in Toronto. And then you get to Toronto and they go, well, actually, you're shooting in Hamilton. That's the new Toronto. Hamilton is the new Toronto because there's even more money to be picked up. How far is that? More nickels lying under the maples up there in Hamilton because you're 60 miles outside of Toronto. So even Toronto is not good enough now.

I mean, when the bean counters finally have their way with us, we literally will be shooting in space. You know, Dana, I saw Mindy Kaling the other night at this little shindig. And it made me think she does a masterclass. You know, that's one of our sponsors. And it reminded me masterclass can really help you. Like they have great people on there.

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So in layman's terms, non-show business terms with that tax credit, say you're going to make a movie and your budget is, is 10 million. And you go to the, one of these countries with this is tax break. All of a sudden you have maybe 30, you have 15 million in a sense to spend. Okay. So that's right on actors on grid and on housing. I mean, I think, um,

I forgot. Also, what it does... Oh, Rob, this is what I was going to say. Sorry. The benefits are... Let's say you're doing it in Boston. We need grown-ups out there. The benefits are there's a tax break for the city, which they have to cover, but...

All, everybody comes to stay in their hotels. They make money. Everyone goes to eat every night. They make money. You're going around the city. You're buying groceries. Everything is being helped in that city. And that's the idea to get you there. And then you see the city. Maybe you want to move there one day. So all that is a plus. So that's kind of how they rationalize it. But here we have so many facilities and so many ways to make a movie, make it really, really easy. And then it just starts to dry out. And I'm not going to say it's fully gone, but it is

It is a red alert. Just in distress. I mean, it is our tax base. It creates a lot of revenue and it is global fame. It's a global attraction. Although, you know, I mean, the Hollywood side is still there. But the ecosystem of it, you know, the car wash that goes out of business, the smaller restaurants, the catering companies that go out. Catering's for sure. It trickles down to the way that people don't really...

They think Hollywood and they think stars. And it really isn't about that. It truly isn't. Because like I said, we'll always get the phone call to go somewhere. But, you know, my my my guy that does all the wardrobe for my show or who does, you know, does all the lighting. Yeah, that phone is not ringing.

And they got kids in school and it's brutal. It's brutal. Yeah. So something will be done because it has to be done. And who could be listening to this podcast? Governor Newsom. Who can do something? What are your analytics like on this podcast? Who's...

Who's listening? Who's in that? Like, could they give you a sample? Single women under 25. No, it's, uh, we have a mature audience, people who vote and pay taxes. And, you know, I'd say, no, we have a, we have a pretty older crowd. It's probably split down the middle men and women. And, uh, in all seriousness, since we're doing it, if you're listening to this in California and you're so inclined, uh,

pick up the phone and call your congressman. It

Or more importantly, it would be your state representative because right now it's a state issue. So call your state representative, really. Seriously, just email them, drop them a line. That really moves the needle. People always think, oh, well, I'm just one person. But you know, I was on a show called The West Wing, and I learned a little bit about politics. And they have a metric. It's probably changed in the 25 years. But if one person calls, they look at it mathematically, right?

That that means that is the way that at least 10 other people are feeling who didn't fall. Makes sense. Yeah. Hmm. Well, what about the governor? Is that another, is that a place to start too?

Yeah, it seems like it seems like he's on board with this now, but he's going to need the votes. That's my understanding. So I think we I think the governor is on board, but we're going to need the votes. I've seen like I said, I think there are people that don't want to help Hollywood, even in California. I mean, Hollywood does a great job sometimes of stepping in it and making us all look like buffoons. And sometimes it comes back to haunt us. And I think that there are people that don't want to throw a lifeline to what they consider bad.

Hollywood. Frivolous. Yeah, it has a bad image, doesn't it? Listen, you watch enough award shows and I can understand. These pampered, self-righteous, clueless morons. Ricky Gervais said it all at his famous speech. Oh my God. One of the great and funniest moments you could ever see on a YouTube clip. I could never not love it. Thank you, God, and fuck off.

You know nothing. You've been nowhere. You know nothing. You've seen nothing. People tell you what to say. They tell you where to go. They tell you what to wear. Don't tell us anything about anything.

So get your little award. Thank you, God. And fuck off. Well, maybe we'll let Rob go because it's very nice to jump on and talk to us. Rob, we miss you. Just quickly. Anything else? I mean, you always have so much going on. Don't you do other, another podcast? No, whatever. Literally is, is going strong. Uh,

loving doing it get it wherever you get your podcast i started really paying attention to filming it like you guys do um which is a bummer because now i have to make sure my toupee is oh yeah i mean i meant my hair i'll give you my guy you're the one who said the best hair in hollywood in history

Who has it? Well, I think I thought it was Richard Gere, but you said it was someone else. Something O'Brien, I think. I don't know. Maybe I'm transposing different. Conan's hair is pretty fucking good. Conan's hair on the Oscars was amazing. That's my hair. That's my hair girl. Oh, she did a great job on it. I like on one specific thing. He was great on the Oscars. Sometimes on his podcast, it's not his best day, but he's always great. But he was great on the Oscars.

Yeah. I love him. He's, he's, he's going to always have, you always have. Mine's not too bad today. They get mad when I say I look at my hair, but Dana and I were arguing that when you're in here, my face looks all, all bright from the goddamn light in my eyes. And then the hair, but the hair has got a little flip to it. Yeah. Rob has such good hair. He covers it up. He doesn't give a shit. And I'm like, fuck, if I had that hair, I would never put a hat on again. Yeah.

I know that's, that's a great irony is, is I, I've got good hair, but I do like my, well, when the Dodgers win the world series, I got a sport. They got a good, they got a good chance. Didn't you have the, the hat that said NFL on it or something? Just go teams. It's actually funny. Go teams. Go teams. I want everybody to win. We did a, we did one movie up in Toronto, but we were pretty much in Toronto.

I did too in Toronto. It was a Tommy boy story. Tommy boy was in Toronto. And I'll tell you another thing. All of the Brat Pack movies you talk about, all of those, all John Hughes movies were in Chicago. They were in Chicago. Yes, there were tax breaks. There's always been tax breaks. This is not a new thing. No. Which has gotten way, way, way, way, way out of control. Yeah. It's a global thing now. But there was a thing where everything shot in Chicago in the 80s. But it wasn't...

for every one movie that shot in Chicago, there were still five or 10 shooting. Yeah. And this is a Chicago backdrop too, to some of those blues brothers out there. Yeah. John Hughes is there. He was there. Yeah. I have one question before we let you go. Do you literally, no pun intended or whatever, does the show the floor take a hundred, a hundred Americans and put them up in Dublin or where, uh,

So you import this audience. And that's cheaper? They don't have Irish accents when they win or they come up. And that's still cheaper to bring 100 people and put them up?

Uh, yes. And, um, and listen, Gordon Ramsey did all the, all his master chef stuff was in Ireland for years. Some of it still is, but, um, you would be, uh, I think, I think beat Shazam. I mean, it's, it's, it's right now they do it. First of all, they do it very, very well. They know what they're doing. Sure. Top of their class. The experience is great. Um,

And I love it. But at the end of the day, I would like to keep our industry alive if we could. But listen, these companies have a fiduciary responsibility. They're not in the charity business. They never will be. They never were.

And, you know, I get why they flee California. By the way, all businesses. California makes it impossible. California makes it impossible. If you're a successful business, you're sort of on the enemy's list. They don't like that. Yes, 100%. How do we squash it? I'll tell you what you do. Nobody changes until they're in enough pain.

Right.

maybe our industry and California in particular is in enough pain to finally make some changes to what is unsustainable, absolutely unsustainable. Absolutely. And just compete in the free market. You know, we've got places to compete. Let's keep stacking the things we don't. Whatever they're doing, we should do. Like, let's make an even playing field. When Chuck Chaplin, when Chucky Chaplin came to LA and in the Hollywood...

renaissance there and buster keaton they like the weather light likes you know i mean those are romantic times but we just have to compete and i know we can and and um

I want to thank you both for being on Dana today. This is a sub podcast we have. Now let's start the super fly. Thanks for being on David and Kelly. Thanks, Rob. Great to see you, bud. No straw hats. I got the message. This is all about telling me no straw hats. No straw hats.

the cane was really the bridge too far. I mean, they say hold it for one picture out of a thousand. They only need one. I literally was like, I'll hold this for two seconds. They're like, we'll never use it. We'll never use it. If you were driving down the Fox lot and you see that huge...

You're like, hey, is that Jiminy Cricket? Was there a chicken in the background? Nice try, Rob. Let's not make it worse than it was. There was no chicken. I think there was a farm animal. I said no to the chicken, I think. I'm just saying, if you're listening to this podcast, please Google David Spade snake oil. Yeah. Yeah. Lauren had a whole dinner devoted to that picture. I'll give you that one. I'll give you that one.

Oh, it's a career killer. You know, David, the other thing is, um, barbershop quartet is a line that it doesn't scream comedy. It sings it. Uh, okay. That's enough out of Rob. I'm now getting mad. Okay. Thanks, bud. Crazy man. This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Superfly is executive produced by Danny Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss, Berman of Odyssey, Heather Santoro, and Greg Holtzman.

Hope you liked it.