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Executive Disorder (with Marc Short)

2025/6/10
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Mark Short: 我认为特朗普擅长利用社会分歧，尤其是在民主党坚持的议题上。他能够找到那些让大多数美国人反对的议题，比如警察车辆被烧毁。纽森州长也可能觉得与特朗普的对抗对他有利，因为这可以帮助他争取民主党选民。斯蒂芬·米勒虽然真诚地相信自己的政策，但他也是一个熟练的煽动者，他的言论可能会使法官成为攻击目标。 David Axelrod: 我认为特朗普的政治项目不是为了团结国家，他认为分裂是有利的。他通过制作人的视角看待世界，不太相信规则和法律，认为强者可以随心所欲。斯蒂芬·米勒的言论具有煽动性，他似乎对团结国家不感兴趣。纽森州长也试图在对法律破坏者和特朗普之间找到平衡。 John Heilemann: 纽森最理想的情况是能够控制局面，并要求特朗普撤走军队。他不希望被视为捍卫骚乱和斯蒂芬·米勒攻击的人。特朗普想在这些情况下将执法部门国有化和联邦化。

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The conversation begins by discussing the deployment of the National Guard in Los Angeles. The hosts debate whether this action is politically motivated, considering the potential benefits for the current administration. They also examine the differing perspectives between Democrats and Republicans on this issue and its implications.
  • Deployment of National Guard in Los Angeles
  • Differing political viewpoints on the deployment
  • Potential political motivations of the deployment
  • Divides between Democrats and Republicans

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This week, Axe and Heilemann are joined by Marc Short—former Chief of Staff to Vice President Mike Pence and Director of Legislative Affairs under President Trump—for a jam-packed conversation. From his front-row seat in the Trump administration, Short reflects on what feels like a political Groundhog Day: National Guard troops on the ground in California. He opens up about working with Stephen Miller, hints at what Mike Pence might have planned next, and weighs in on the future of the Republican brand in a post-Trump era. Plus, the Hacks take on the national debt, the GOP’s tug-of-war between cultural and economic messaging, Elon Musk’s latest pivots, and peek into the crystal ball for today’s primaries.