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“SAE on activation differences” by Santiago Aranguri, jacob_drori, Neel Nanda

2025/7/1
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TLDR: we find that SAEs trained on the difference in activations between a base model and its instruct finetune are a valuable tool for understanding what changed during finetuning.

This work is the result of Jacob and Santiago's 2-week research sprint as part of Neel Nanda's training phase for MATS 8.0

** Introduction**

Given the overwhelming number of capabilities of current LLMs, we need a way to understand what functionalities are added when we make a new training checkpoint of a model. This is especially relevant when deploying a new model since among many new and useful features there may be hidden an unexpected harmful or undesired behavior. [1]

Model diffing aims at finding these differences between models. Recent work has focused on training crosscoders (roughly, an SAE on the concatenation of the activations of two models) and identifying latents that are exclusive to one or the other model. However [...]


Outline:

(00:31) Introduction

(01:50) SAE on activation differences

(02:20) Pipeline for identifying relevant latents

(04:45) KL Dashboards

(05:55) Example: inhibitory latent

(08:34) Roleplay latent

(09:40) Uncertainty latent

The original text contained 4 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.


First published: June 30th, 2025

Source: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/XPNJSa3BxMAN4ZXc7/sae-on-activation-differences)


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Images from the article: (Figure 1) Top activations for a latent from the diff-SAE related to detecting jailbreaks.)(Figure 2) Step 1: Identify an interesting high KL token. Prompt taken from LMSys.)(Figure 3) Step 2: Calculate attribution to the KL for each direction in diff-SAE.)Screenshot showing a wizard roleplay prompt and dialogue about making coffee. Two different responses with coefficient values shown.)A data table showing text changes with green and red columns marked with arrows.)Bar graph KL Attributions" showing distribution with peak near zero.

The red circle highlights a data point at -1.0." style="max-width: 100%;" />)Chat conversation about making coffee with coefficient value indicators shown.)Histogram showing KL Attributions" with outlier point circled in red." style="max-width: 100%;" />)Programming conversation showing AI responses about inappropriate content request, with coefficients.) Apple Podcasts and Spotify do not show images in the episode description. Try Pocket Casts), or another podcast app.