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No, I'm home. There's a huge snowstorm outside. Oh my gosh. Don't go anywhere. Stip, please. We can't lose you. I don't want to see you in the In Memoriam this year. Well, welcome to Literally. This is someone you never, ever hear on podcasts, ever. I don't think I've ever heard Chevy Chase, the legend, the goat, on a podcast. And we have got him.
And, you know, I mean, he influenced me more than I could ever articulate. There was never anybody as smart and irreverent and deadpan and charismatic and handsome and just had his own style of humor that just blew so sky high than Chevy did in those first SNL years. And then, of course, you know,
Caddyshack, hello, and others. Fletch. I mean, this is going to be fun. Mr. Chevrolet Chase. Chevrolet Chase is coming up.
Mr. Chevy, I'm so glad to have you on this show because, I mean, we've known each other a little bit over the years and we even work together on Brothers and Sisters, but I've never had a chance to properly tell you how much you've meant to me in terms of your work, in all seriousness. And we'll get to the funny shit later. It's all good. But one of the things I love about
about this business is the people that inspired you. And then when you finally get to meet them and to say, thank you. And I need to do that because you taught me everything I ever, ever wanted to know about comedy. And when, when I was a young idiot, um, kid, 12, 13, 14 year old, uh, watching you on SNL and then through everything you've ever done, uh, you're, you're the fucking man, dude. And, uh, I got, thank you, man. That's nice of you. I mean, thank you.
Really? I love that. Yeah. Nice of you. It's really, really an honor. There's never been anybody like you, as far as I can tell, and never will be anybody like you. And I remember, I'm just going to give you a little backstory. So, you know, SNL comes out, you're the breakout star, as you should be. You're amazing in it. And then...
That Christmas, I asked my mom, you know, I was still making, just how young I was, I was still making lists of Christmas gifts I wanted. That tells you a little bit how young I was. I do that now. Yeah. The number one thing I wanted was a shirt that said, I'm Chevy Chase and you're not. That's what I asked for for Christmas. And to tell you how different the times are, that didn't exist. So I went out and made it. I made it with a print on,
things and i had it i had that shirt yeah i was just gonna say that i had the same shirt made or no somebody did on srl and gave it to me i have that t-shirt upstairs really isn't that funny yeah i'm chubby chase and you're not yeah how did how did you come up with that catchphrase um i was doing that uh update i invented this thing called weekend update
And it allowed me to do political and stuff to say things that were outrageous. But in the guise of a newscaster, it would be OK. And I was always going, good evening. I'm Chevy Chase. I was thinking about this Channel 5 guy here in New York, Roger Grimsby. He was a.
He was a newscaster in a local station, but he used to always say, I'm Roger Grimsby and here now the news. And I just didn't want it to go that long. And I'm Chevy Chase and you're not. And that's it. Let's get to the news. That was good. It's very simple. I mean, it happened right there on the,
On the update thing. That tells you what a different world it was that the notion that there could be a, somebody involved in the news and that saying something outrageous would be funny. We've come a long way. Yeah. It's a lot of physical stuff though, Rob. I mean,
To me, just about all comedy is physical. And that means the face I would make or the gesture I would make or the eyebrow lift or the turning around. I love to say this one because it was between 75 and 76. And we came on the air just at the beginning of 76. We were on in 75 too, but I was up there.
on the update set and I said, well, that's it for 1975. And here we are in 1970. Let's take a look back. Won't we? And I did, you know, that kind of thing. So tell me, I want to know how you, because Lorne Michaels appears in,
without appearing on this show all the time because I have so many SNL people on because I love SNL, as you know. And of course, nobody can get through an interview without telling a Lauren story or doing the Lauren impersonation. I've never heard that you do one. You can't be the only person in the world that doesn't do a Lauren impersonation. Oh, God, I probably did back then, but I don't know how to do them now. Uh,
Well, you know, Chevy, the thing about doing me is you got it. You got it. You don't need me. No, it's good. The thing about Chevy was everybody thought he was Cary Grant and he was actually Chevy. That's something you would say, too. Yes. All my impersonations are predicated on on me.
Look, the impersonations are bad. They're not that great. I know they're not that great. But what I'm saying is great because it's something they for sure would have said. When I do Arnold Schwarzenegger, you know, it's the thing of when they're taking it and they're putting it to the thing and they're taking it there and they don't know what it's going to do. That one word will do it. For Arnold, it's predicated on the word rurk, which is work.
but no one ever did that. Yeah. Um, tell me, okay, I'm going to, this is greatest hits. This is, I've been dreaming about this month. Tell me about land shark who invented the land shark. And why did you become a land shark? Uh, that was me. Uh, I, uh, I also wrote jaws too, which began the, the, uh, a takeoff on, on jobs. Right. Uh, so, uh, that's where the land shark appeared. The, the, uh,
It was an easy right. I just had Jane or I don't know who, Gilda, in their apartment listening to the radio and that the news suddenly came on and said something to the effect of,
I can't even remember. Oh, anyway, they were apprised of there being another shark and not just Jaws. And in this case, it was a little more serious because it was actually on land. It's a little more serious. And then I...
I had this costume that I made up that would fit right down on my knees, the shark costume. Then I'd knock on the door. And what I liked was sort of the concept that the shark was...
could speak and walk, but it wasn't really very intelligent. It didn't have a lot of... It wasn't articulate. So I would not... Sharks are. They're very articulate animals. Yeah.
So I'd say, Mrs. Carlin. And she would then be on whoever it was, Jane. So I would say, she'd say, who? Like, this is clearly not the right name. And I'd take a little pause and I'd go, Captain Clark? Yeah.
The name itself, I just screw. So is Mrs. Al? The screwing of the name thing is a, because that's also my favorite bit in Fletch. When they ask Fletch what his, right? It's the same thing, right? When they ask Fletch what his name is. I believe I did have that in there. I can't remember what.
But it wasn't. Oh, I see. Not that I'm a super fan or anything, but as Mr. Cocktoe, some. Oh, that's right. And everybody said for years and even to that, I guess.
that it was cock toastin'. It wasn't. It was, oh, I'm John. Who are you? John! Cock toastin'. It just sort of, it went away, you know. John, cock toastin'. I think I went with cock toastin'. Well, Mr. Cock Toastin'. And, of course, that was the girl's thing, and it became Cock Toastin', I guess. What a great career.
When I used to check into hotels under fake names, I often used John Coctelston. Oh, you're a silly boy. I'm a very silly boy. You're just learning the half of it. I want to see that game show again. I've been watching it very, you know, it's gone now. But the one you had where somebody sits in a machine and goes around and you say, Emma, pop them here. Yes. What the hell was the name of that?
Mental Samurai. It's coming on this summer. It's coming on. How did you end up watching my game show, Mental Samurai, Chevy? This is amazing. All I had to do was see your face. And I thought, Rob is a movie star. What's he doing on TV? And then I just started liking it. I'm asking myself the same thing. I... Well... Dig money. It's... I will tell you... Well, there's that. I will tell you that...
It's funny you say that because that's the when I'm when I'm just riffing with people. And that's what I love about doing Mental Samurai is you just get a chance to riff with regular people with insane stories and they're under pressure. And we literally had a for like, I think it was one hundred thousand dollars. And the question was, name this 1990s era world famous ensemble sitcom.
And then Friends was scrambled. And it took her 30 seconds and the clock was running out. And she said, I'm going to go with Durfans. Durfans? Durfans.
What is that? It's nothing. And she didn't get the $100,000, but it's friends scrambled. Oh, I see. And so, and I thought this is what, this is like some Chevy stuff. This is like, what would Chevy do? Oh, I'd be great on that show. You should put me on the show. Done. You're coming on season two of Mental Samurai. I'm making that happen. Okay. Tell me this. I need to know
If I have a couple of you, there's a lot of urban legends about you, Mr. Chase, as you know. Oh, I like that. We're going to go down a list of them now. Number one, did you get kicked out of college for housing a cow in your dorm? Yes or no? No, I didn't get kicked out. I did get kicked out of it.
the end of the year, having like C's or something. I don't remember. Haverford College was a very tough college and like a small Ivy League school. And I just never liked academics and stuff. So I didn't... Anyway, I'd do a lot of silly things. And I had two funny roommates who I liked. I mean, I loved one of them. And
Yeah, I'm trying to remember. It was easy to get the cow upstairs. We were like two flights up, sort of, and then down the hall. But the cow didn't want to go downstairs. And that took people to push him just to get him down to the first... And down the stairs. God, it was...
I can't remember what happened to that cow. It might still be there, Chevy. No, he got out of the dorm. I think the grass is all eaten up now. Yeah. So that is true. You kept a cow. You didn't get kicked out for the cow, but you did keep a cow in your dorm. Oh, well, that's true. But I didn't keep it. I brought him up, put him in my room.
of our small dorm room and closed the door to, there was a rule at Haverford that you couldn't have a girl in your room, first of all, after 10, and second of all, with your door closed, which I wonder what that meant. And so I actually closed the door up to about six inches to make sure I didn't break the rule.
And then came down with it. I was never bothered by that. I mean, I got in more trouble for toilet papering Beech Hall. But that was, I got a bunch of guys with me. You know, wet toilet, you know, they throw it in there before you know it, they can't get out. Anything else? No, there's more. There's more. Where were you at any time ever a member of Steely Dan? I was the drummer.
We started in college at Bard. And we had a small group of us. I guess there was like a quartet. Me and Fagan. What's his name? Becker. And we played things that were mostly jazz. Because I'm a jazz drummer and a jazz pianist. I didn't care much about jazz.
And so we did that down in a place where you could do that anyway, right on the campus. And I graduated and then they were still going.
And Donald was thinking about, you know, let's take this on the road. Let's get a deal and whatnot. And so I said, you know, get a better drummer. I didn't want to do that. And they indeed did. Recently, Fagan said, you are a great drummer. And I'm so proud now. Well, that's amazing because, you know, famously, they never had any set drummers.
after you. Yeah. I mean, they had all of... I'm obsessed with watching the making of all Steely Dan records. I'm a huge fan. And they just have multiple session players, world famous, come in and they just busted these guys' ass to play perfectly because clearly nobody was Chevy Chase the drummer. Clearly. Yeah, I don't know. I love the way Donald sings. Yes. It's just riotous. It's so bad that, you know,
And then, oh, Jesus. But people weren't seeing them and buying them for his voice. That's for sure. But they were good songs. He wrote great. Great, really. Well, and it's funny. It's kind of your sense of humor, the songs, really. I mean, it's a very specific, like sardonic.
but hilarious. I mean, Steely Ann's hilarious. They're really, really, you know, I think that happened in college that we had me and then Ken Shapiro was also quite funny and he played with us a couple of times and whatnot. I think he got that, that kind of sense of humor thing from the way I looked at things and Ken did, you know,
So, you know, I don't I'm again flattered. Another one confirmed. So all of the urban legends so far are true. And I love that. Up to a point. I mean, they have to be corrected. Well, what are the ones that need to be corrected that I didn't ask? This might be even better. The cow. The cow has to be corrected. But that's a technicality. You're getting hung up on a technicality. No. Did I tell you what the cow said? Yeah.
That's it. Okay. Hold that thought. We'll be right back.
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I'm not sure how that all worked, but it was Eric, you know, Idol. He and John are very good writers and very funny guys. I just met John at Beverly Hills Hotel, Commissary, whatever, to try to convince him that we could do a great show.
uh series a half hour together oh you guys would be great he was quite funny uh but really more serious and you know i'm too i i don't want to have to write again and uh i said well i i write no you can't write this something like that which he didn't mean and uh
And so things, and even my daughter was with me, not this one, but Kaylee, and had a camera. And we were around a table there that he had. And finally, Kaylee said, let me take a picture of you guys, of you two. And John just said, all right, I'll be a bunny.
And he put his... I can't show it. Can you see me? Yeah. His impression of being a bunny was just putting his hands up. Yes, from out of nowhere. And...
It was the only funny thing that he, it was only, it's just, he turned out to be the nutcase I wanted. And, and it was so much fun. We spent two hours together. The, the Ruttles, the, for anybody listening, if you haven't seen it, what the Ruttles is, is there was a moment in time where there were 7 billion Beatles documentaries. Like just, it was like enough with the archival footage of the, of the Beatles, please. Yeah.
Yeah. And it was always the Beatles. It was what the name of them all were. Yeah. So they did the Ruttles. Sort of like what Durfans is to friends.
The Ruddles is to the Beatles, and it's the most brilliant comedy ever. Eric Idle, the Monty Python guys, and Chevy has a little bit part in it. But do you know what the distinction of this hilarious thing is? It holds a very special distinction, The Ruddles. You want to know what it is? Oh, I don't know. I don't remember. It is the single lowest rated piece of television in the history of broadcast. Wow.
I wonder why. People loved and adored the Beatles. I've become a good close friend of Paul's. McCartney and I knew John too, but somebody shot him. But, you know, that wasn't good. That didn't work. Anyway. It was not a good day. You can ask Paul, by the way. We see each other in the summers.
You can always ask him to sing something and he'll do it. Really? Yes. He'll go, you know, for a couple of bars. What was John Lennon like? He was cheeky and not snarky, just cheeky, funny. I would see him, I was living on the west side.
around 71st Street or something, close to the river Hudson. And I think he and Yoko lived somewhere near that too, because I'd see him
quite frequently in the little park there, you know, eating something or whatever. And that's where I like to go to eat. So I think the first time I met him, I had a huge sandwich in my hands. Anyway, then I'd walk back up 72nd Street from the park.
with the two of them. And we just sort of, you know, people were very frightened of him in the sense that nobody would say, oh, Mr. Lennon, can I have you? You wouldn't even ask him because he was John Lennon. I mean, just that you might smell him is good enough. And so we enjoyed, and I was already, you know, famous in this country anyway, somewhat. So he knew who I was. And, um,
It was fun. Were you on SNL when Lorne famously offered the Beatles, I think, $75,000 to reunite? I know that Lorne and I, in his office, came up with the concept of
but I think I argued for 100, but I think it probably was 75, yeah. Anyway, the idea, and Lorne played it beautifully. I mean, Lorne, you know, he comes out of the second city kind of tradition in Canada and whatnot, so very funny guy, very bright and chubby. Chubby. I love the way he did them. You know...
There you are. The thing about Belushi is he had all the wrong heroes. That's good. Good. Good. It's a good one. And true, by the way. John was so pissed off at me. Belushi. We were in a show together off Broadway in New York before this.
called Lemmings. And it was, and Chris Guest was on it. It was Alice Clayton. Anyway, it was a hit off for Off-Broadway or Off-Broadway. I don't know what the hell we were, but it was only later that I and Michael O'Donoghue, who was a great lampoon, probably the greatest writer and a funny, funny man,
He and I became fast friends and I always do things to him that he didn't expect. So he didn't know that his officer changed a little around here or around there because
He was the kind of guy who wrote everything in longhand on a lawyer's pad, and then he'd type out his sketch. We didn't have fucking time for that. I was the head writer right after he folded it into his office, and I had to get people...
You know, we're going to be reading, have a read-through on Tuesday. It's Monday. We just had a show. So, you know, but Michael, I don't know what the hell. Well, first of all, the fact that I forget
that you were the head writer of SNL as well. That is a... I was only, you know, I was only hired for that. In fact, when I asked Lorne, can I act, he said no. You know, Chevy, you're too good looking. I don't want a traditional leading man on the show. It will affect the comedy. Good looking people are not as funny. Oh, God. Well, Deluci was the star of that awful
Broadway thing. They loved him. And finally, when Michael and I convinced him, because our lampoon radio convinced Lauren that he should hire John, we had everybody else, John came in. John used to say, I'll never do television. Which I always say, that's really bright, John, because you can't make more or anything. And he finally accepted and
But he was extremely pissed and jealous of me that I became that first star. And...
What could you do? You know, I loved him. And I have two or three photographs of us, just the two of us, uh, sitting somewhere where he's just giving me the bird from behind me, you know, the old fucking excuse my language, but you know, it's too funny. Yeah. He, I mean, it's hard for, I mean, you just exploded out of, out of that show and you were only on it for, for, uh, one season or two. Well,
Uh, one season and one day after the first season, I think I came back for a day or two, uh, that had to finish my contract or something, but it wasn't long. And what was the first big movie? Was it foul play? Well, I wasn't that big, but that was my first movie. I remembered as being a huge hit. Was it not a hit? I guess it was a hit, but, uh,
It wasn't like one of those $200 million movies like Danny's been doing. I hated it. I was supposed to be in that Ghostbusters, but they got another guy because I was busy. I couldn't fucking believe it. Anyway, because I really liked that movie. And Billy is so damn funny, all of them. Anyway. I can't believe you were supposed to be in Ghostbusters. I never knew that. Yeah.
Well, wait, wait, what's the, what's in fact, when they did the video,
for the music and it, you know, uh, they, I had the last shot on the video is me, uh, standing and, uh, I had a little cigarette that was, and just put making the cigarette go into my mouth and then back out. People always freak out about that. Well, don't you going to burn yourself? So it's a trick. Yeah. Ray, Ray Parker jr. My favorite is, is either. I forget. I always get confused. It was Huey Lewis's. I want a new drug.
And Ghostbusters, there was a big lawsuit because of the same song. So the question is who, I think it was, I hate to say it, I think it was Ray Parker Jr. who stole I Want a New Drug, I think. I want a new, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, one that won't do whatever, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Where are the ghosts? They're going to be here. Isn't that the lyrics of it? Isn't that how it went? Yeah, that is. I think there was something similar there.
With that guy, but it wasn't the same and you can't really, you can't really see. I want a new dog. One won't scare me to death. Yeah, that's good. That's what it was. In Three Amigos, let's talk about Three Amigos. Oh, I got a great Lorne one. This is an actual Lorne quote.
Actual long quote. Vintage Truthful actually said it to me. I said, I love Three Amigos. Chevy is a genius in it. It's one of the funniest movies. He goes, the first part, the first half is funny. Then the director thought he was auditioning to direct the fucking Milagro Beanfield War. Ha ha ha!
The Labral Beats. What the hell? Oh, my God. I loved making it because I had Marty and Steve. These two... You know, Steve's one of the funniest guys conceptually in the world. He's not...
He's not out there as much as I project or take back. So he's not that good. But what I'm saying is he's just a great friend and very funny. He has these concepts that are silly and funny. I remember he did a
Oh, what was it? A movie with a beautiful woman. Is it The Jerk with Bernadette Peters? Yeah, it might have been that where he jumps on the woman, starts to stomp her. Yep. She's lying down and sick. It's sort of like a Franken, but better. Al, they call me Al. Isn't that, by the way, isn't that the name of the Paul Simon movie?
You can call me Al. Oh yeah, that I love. Was that written about Al Franken? Was that song about Al Franken? You can call me Al Franken? No. It wasn't? I think Paul Simon gives a shit about who he is. Paul Simon, you know, he's right up there with the Beatles. He's been there forever, Simon and Schuster. Simon and Garfunkel. And, you know, it's funny because Lorne is the one who suggested, you know,
Why don't you do Paul's video for this new record? Graceland. Yeah, Graceland. And Paul said, that's an idea. And then there was that, a man walks down the street, he says, why am I shut? You know, great move. He'd be my bodyguard. In any case,
Paul called and said, I'm going to have to record tomorrow a video. You want to come in and you could do me and I'll just do Paul trying to carry huge things into the way. So I went there. And by the way, I learned those words.
and the singing of them on the way in on a limo from East Hampton. And I just adored him. And I did it in one take. No way. I had it down, all of it in one take. On top of which I was making little moves like with my hand and dropping a cocktail glass and stuff. So I gave him all I could. And
And I haven't heard from him in fucking years. I realize that that song is really Paul Simon rapping. Paul Simon. It's like he's just he's rapping. You want my man fought in the middle and why is my life so hard? And the man walks down the street and it's rapping. It's Paul Simon's version of rapping. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I guess so. Never thought about that, did you? I don't know. Paul, come here. Let's start. He's with Edie Burkell now. Very happy. Oh, and Three Amigos, when the burning bush, the singing bush, sorry, the singing bush. The singing bush. When the singing bush sings only public domain songs.
That's the most inside joke in the history of inside jokes. And who wrote that? Steve. Really? Yeah. Yeah. You know, Lawrence, he was given credit too for writing, but really it was, it was Steve and the singer Randy. And they, they really wrote the thing. And that's a typical Steve. In that particular bit,
I, as Dusty Bottoms, did not come into the shot. I was away from the shot holding their horses and on my own horse because they had gotten off and I didn't see the single bush and the invisible swordsman. And it's probably my best and funniest thing that I do in the whole movie is that I'm quite far in the background, but you can see it clearly with me and these horses together.
And, uh, but no, no sound or anything. I'm just behind out behind them. And, uh, I, I get off my horse and,
and actually land on the horse next to me backwards. And it's just one of those things. I just love that crap. And there it is. If you ever see that movie again, look for it. I will. It's one of my favorite sequences in one of my favorite movies. My hands shoot out. What happened? Great. I love that character anyway. And we'll be right back after this.
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Listen, I love that we've gotten this far into the interview without talking about the most iconic of iconic, of course, which is Caddyshack.
And, I mean, Caddyshack made me want to play golf. In fact, I'm dressed in a golf outfit. I'm going to go play golf when we're done today. And I blame you. I can't play golf, man. I hated golf. I'm a tennis. I thought your swing was pretty good. In fact, I've rarely played once or twice. Oh, I know what it is. I played...
for the movie, you know, I, and I apparently looked pretty good. Some golfer told me he had a good swing or whatever. And then later Billy would call me. He's a great golf. You know, he's right up there with the pros. This is his thing. And he'd call and say, you want to play golf? All right. And I'd meet him somewhere half between a club golf course.
And I go about, he's so patient. I go through the seven shots of the first hole. And then as I'm approaching the second hole, you know, pretty much,
Every time we played, he'd be sitting all the way at the ninth hole, drinking a beer and waiting for me. I mean, that's how good he was. And I wanted to play, you know, and I just I think I would shoot like 180. Yeah, it's not a good score. Not a good score. But your swing in the movie looks pretty damn good. Does. Well, I don't know.
I mean, the trick is to actually make contact with the ball. Yes, it is. And I have plenty of trouble with that with Bill. And he tried to teach me a little thing here or there. But I think I probably jerked back or something when just getting to the ball because I was nervous or whatever. I just never really made contact.
The right once once I hit a solid, you know, 200 yards thing. But that was it. So my favorite bit in that movie. And again, I think it's like everybody knew you were funny in those days. You're still funny, but you're pretty you're you're there's a lot of you're a good actor, man. There's a great moment with you and Lacey Underall, by the way, one of the great names in history.
Where she, you say, let's just pretend there were two human beings. There's a scene when she comes to my abode. No, it's when you, it's outside, it's your both in your formal attire, it's outside and you open the beer bottle can that's already been opened. Let's just pretend there were two human beings. No, that's inside. That was in my...
house and it was a perrier bottle. Oh, you're right. Okay. You're right. You're right. Look at that. And there was nothing cause I just had the top off already, but my dad was to her. And, uh, then there, and also in that, what I loved is that, uh,
I said I was just out diving or something or fishing, whatever. But what you could see was clearly a motor and skis. Apparently, it's something else. I can't remember what. But it's just...
So the fact that the tie web might go out there and just slice fish up as he's skiing. There's nothing about fishing. He's a maniac. But nobody ever responded to that. And that's just fine. I didn't want to make more of it. But yeah. And Ted Knight, I don't think gets enough credit for he's so funny. Oh, Ted. Ted.
Ted Knight. Are you my pal? How about a fresca? I mean, he is. I think he was brilliant. Brilliant. How about a fresca? How about a fresca? I mean, the fact that all of us were, there were plenty of, if I may say so, drugs on that movie. Yep. It was right at the middle of that point when pot and Coke were a big deal. And, uh,
He would just spend his time eating salads. He never wanted to have anything to do with that. But there was a night, this is a funny story too. We lived in this dorm, basically a golf motel. And so I had a room and everybody had a room. And I got a knock on the door around, I don't know, 1040. Yeah, yeah, come on in. My door was open. I'm in bed.
And it's Billy and Brian Delmarais, brother. And, and, uh, Hey Jeff, you got any Coke? No, I don't have any of that. Uh, you got any, you got any weed, man? Any? No, I don't. I'll tell you what. Um,
Go next door. That's Rodney. He might have something like that. I'm going to sleep. Okay, so they close the door. Oh, thanks, Jeff. Thanks. And knock on Rodney's door. And this, I love this story. They went in, opened his door, and he's in bed. And they said, Rodney, you got any Coke? And Rodney says, I don't know. I don't know.
Do you have any weed? Oh, yeah. You see that
The bag right in front of you, paper bag. Take it, enjoy it, enjoy. So the two of these guys take this paper bag that's screwed up and go downstairs. They're happy as hell. They go downstairs to a larger sitting room type place. And they open the bag, it's all seeds. I thought that was brilliant.
And, you know, this wasn't a real bright man, Rodney, but that was I think he'd been waiting for anybody to ask him for pot. That's what he had for them. And the two Murray brothers, you know, what the heck? They couldn't be taken. I just I the stories of that set are legendary. I mean, people always ask me what's you know, how's the movie and TV business changed since?
You know, it's changed a lot. But I mean, in those days, honest to God, you would go on a movie set and people dealt drugs like front, left and center. It was like everywhere. It might have been the high watermark. Caddyshack might have might have been right. I think, yes. And as I said, it is in the 80s, I guess, early 80s, maybe. Yeah, probably around 98 or where. But, you know, we'd gone through the 60s and the 70s.
where it was already accepted by mayors and cops and everything else, that people smoked pot and snorted Coke, that they couldn't really stop it. I mean, it was a big hit with people roughly my age who have grown out of that. I hope most of them died. I don't know. In any case, the change came about because...
views of behavior and religion got more effective to people. And there was a
It just became something that, I mean, today you'd never see anybody, uh, doing Coke. Uh, maybe once in a while you see somebody with some pot, um, that, you know, because of this goddamn Reagan and their people and his white, I would just say, no, yeah, just say this. And, uh, you know, I mean, it was just, uh, that was it. I'm glad because, uh,
I would have probably just taken it right to the grave. I love that coke, cocaine, but I just quit, damn, like that. The way I quit smoking that way too, just bam. You quit just cold turkey? That's very hard to do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, because I never believed that, that you can't do that, man. You've got to, fuck it, just don't,
buy it and don't have it from anybody. That's the zip. You know, about two weeks of wondering if I should try it again and I did not ever. And same with the cigarettes too.
Uh, it's just, uh, I don't know where I learned that from my granddad, I guess, from my father. That's great. But it's just, uh, let's, let's get on with it. You know, I wonder if the movie, if the movies of those days, what they would have been like without all of the drugs. I mean, they would have for sure been different. I'm not sure they would have been better. I'm not sure they would have been worse, but they would have been different. Yeah. The question is, um, whether it mattered, uh,
uh i i think i think it overdid itself we those drugs and that so many of these cheech and chow type films came out that people just didn't want to see them anymore they didn't know much that uh you know i mean there were references to it in
later films that I made and reference here and there but yeah Chevy you are thank you so much this has been so much fun I love catching up with you we need to do it it's great to see you this has been going on a long time I don't know how you're going to I don't know what you do but in fact I enjoyed it a lot and you know anytime you want to do
that this or something else that requires your talent and you need somebody else give me a buzz I will for sure you're the absolute best stay out of that snow get a fire hang out with your beautiful family and thank you again and again for everything you've all the work you've made and will continue to make you've made this Midwestern boy very happy for many many years
Good boy. All right. Okay. Thank you. Let's meet up again. I'll see you on the next one. All right, brother. Thank you. It was a lot of fun. Thank you. Thanks, Rob. I hope you loved Mr. Chevrolet Chase as much as I did. That was a dream come true. If you'd have told me my 13-year-old self...
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