Shownotes Transcript
This is the time of year where you just want to donate all your old clothes and revamp your wardrobe, right? Spring cleaning means out with the old and in with the new. And that's where Macy's comes in. Yep.
Spring fashion has officially landed at Macy's, and they've got the perfect items for a serious wardrobe upgrade. Macy's knows what's hot this season, like lightweight knits that make you look effortlessly cool, matched sets that make you look as polished as a celebrity's photo filters, woven skirts, mini dresses, and red carpet-ready maxi dresses. Macy's has got all the new arrivals,
The latest colors, your favorite brands, and brands waiting to be your favorite brand. And just when you think it couldn't get any better, bam, they've got timeless jewelry, classic denim, and workwear that says, I'm here to work and look awesome doing it.
Find Macy's Spring Styles in linen, crochet, cotton gauze, all the perfect fabrics for when the heat kicks in and you still want to look like a million bucks. So what are you waiting for? Shop now at macys.com or in stores.
Summertime's here. The sun is shining. You need powerful sun protection that feels light on your skin. Meet Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Sunscreen. This is SPF 70 lotion. It absorbs fast with smooth, dry-touch finish, so you'll forget that you're even wearing it. It blocks 97% of burning UV rays and is water-resistant.
for up to 80 minutes. Lightweight, effective, and perfect for sunny days. It is just what your summer needs. Neutrogena Ultra Sheer. Sunscreen you can't feel. Shop now at Target. Today's episode of Literally is sponsored by Lowe's.
Lowe's knows that taking on more projects should be rewarding. That's why loyalty members get more every day with rewards for every home or business purchase. Plus, shop weekly member deals and get access to free standard shipping. So what are you waiting for? Join for free today. Lowe's, we help you save. Loyalty program subject to terms and conditions. Details at lowes.com slash terms.
Subject to change. Okay, here's the All-America Jacuzzi team. Me, you, Arnold. Yeah. Hey, everybody. Welcome to Literally. So, parents out there, you know what it's like when your kids have their buddies over and those kids become like your second children. I don't know if you're familiar with that phenomenon. I have one of those kids as our guest today. I've known this guy since he was probably...
six years old and he's grown up to become Patrick Schwarzenegger, the zeitgeist lightning rod from white Lotus. And just all around, like, you know, you can't pick up a magazine without seeing him in a brand deal. He's handsome and talented and funny and great actor and, you know, great family friend of, of, of ours and just couldn't be more proud. And it's, I feel like I'm interviewing one of my, one of my boys, um,
Welcome, Patrick Schwarzenegger. There's the biggest TV since. Well, you're not a TV sensation. You're I mean, White Lotus is a whole different thing. It's a zeitgeist since Mr. Zeitgeist is with us.
Patrick. Thank you for having me. Patrick Schwarzenegger, Mr. Zeitgeist. I mean, I was just just since you were about to call me a TV star, maybe I was at home with Abby and my dad the other day. And Arnold was talking about how big White Lotus was. And Abby said, Arnold, can you believe it? He's a movie star. And Arnold sat there with a cigar and looked over and said, no, no.
I guess he's a TV star, but not a movie star yet. And Abby was like, oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Arnold is not... Arnold's petting the mini horse. No, no, he's not yet. No, he's got to do about five. Yeah. But even... I was talking to John Owen about Arnold must be... Like, you know, because...
Arnold and I watching you and John Owen have your own successes. It's like, as a dad, you're both like a super proud. And then also like, keep going, kid. All right. You're in the door. You know what I mean? So for Arnold to give it, he has to give it up now. He has to, he has to give it up now. He never will. He never will.
But it's amazing when someone, the best thing is when someone now sees us both and we're together and they come up and ask me for a photo and not him. That's what gets the blood boiling. Oh, the boil must be so real. Have they asked you? And then there's one other level of humiliation for the older generation is when they, not only do they not want a photo with you, they want you to take it.
Take it. Yes. Yes. Then that's the best. Oh my God. Can you imagine? That is so sick. Um, yeah, you're the zeitgeist boy. I mean, we've got so much to cover. I mean, white Lotus, we've got, um, we have to talk about the Met Gala. You're a multi Met Gala guy at this point, right? Yeah. That was my, my third one. So, but it's, it's, this was like,
This was the first one that I felt...
not like in complete shambles of being anxiety ridden and, and like so nervous, you know, like I feel like when you have, when you're going at a time when you have a, a project or you have something, it kind of like levels the playing field a little bit where, where you feel like people are maybe interested to talk to you. I don't know, but it just, it felt a little better than, than the last ones. Well, listen, I, that was clear to anybody because you have to have like soaring confidence to carry, um,
That clutch bag. Bro, let's talk clutch bag. By the way, I'm pro clutch. Is it a clutch you were carrying on the red carpet? I think it was a clutch. And by the way, they're very strategic. You can hold some really great things in the clutch. Is the clutch so slippery that the glove was needed? No.
The glove was needed. It all was needed. Oh, listen, I'm only being devil's advocate here. I'm doing my journalistic thing because I'm down. I don't even need to talk about it. I was so sold. I was like, that's so sick. I mean, you have to understand, I sometimes carry a Birkin.
There you go. That's the highest level. This was not bad. But I tell you what, we were mid-dinner and at the Met, the portions are very small and you know how much I love to eat. Yes, I know. When we were done with the dinner and I whipped open my bag and I had protein bars in my bag and I had snacks, everybody was like jealous because it was...
The clutch came, it came in clutch. The clutch earned its name. So is this true? I just learned this. Is this true about the Met Gala? That you actually are, to go there, you have to be the muse of a designer and the designer designs your look. It's not like you go, I want to wear this and I want to wear that. You're kind of, you know, not like you're a model. Is that fair enough? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, especially this time, you know, it was celebrating kind of, uh, black designers. And, um, so I went with bomb bomb on with, uh, Olivia, who was a fantastic designer and, um,
when I went to try on the outfit, cause he kind of shows you, they, they give you an idea of what they've created and what they've sketched and what they've made. And you just pray to God that it's going to fit you. Um, I mean, I know the girls go through like weeks or months of fittings and all this stuff. The guys, it's a little, you know, more, a little easier. But, um, when I went for the fitting and he put it on, I was like, okay, I'm, this is, this is great. I love doing something that has like a little bit of a swing. Like it needs, it's like,
Yeah. A little something that's going to flare it up and it's going to be unique. It's the Met Ball. I didn't want to just go with like a plain suit. So, but at the same time, you have to, yeah, you're putting all your trust in the designer. No, it was great. I mean, and you've always been a clothes horse. How many times have I...
Have when we see each other, I think you and I always give each other the what the elevator eyes, the up and down and like, oh, the watch. OK, OK. I mean, yeah, I mean, oh, the pants. Oh, those those are khakis. Oh, no. Wait, they're Gucci. Yeah, that's what I remember. Remember that? Remember that? You rock. Of course. You rock some Gucci like khakis that were just next level.
Yep. I mean, I love, yeah, I love clothes and I love, you know, taking minor swings. I feel like I wear some stuff that's out there, but most of the stuff is not, but it's not as far as Johnny Lowe goes. What can we do? Let's have a very public conversation.
First of all, none of my family listens to this podcast, so it's great. It's like they wouldn't lower themselves to listen to this. But let's talk about John Owen Lowe. What can we do to get him out of this thrift shop situation?
Which, look, everybody goes through it. I remember it was like, oh, look at this bowling shirt I found from 1930. It's like, yeah, all right, we get it. What do we do?
It's tough because if I go to the house, if I go to Johnny's house and we jacuzzi or and I need to borrow some clothes and I put on a T-shirt and it ends up up here on my nipples, you know, they're like the crop top. I can't wear any of that stuff, but we need to have an intervention. You just reminded me, you were a clothes thief.
You like growing. You're not because now you've surpassed everybody. But when you would come over in the day, there was always like Cheryl would be like, where is John Owens brand new T-shirt that I did? It's like Pat enjoyed. Patrick was wearing it. Patrick took it.
I always knew when I was cleaning out my closet, what was Johnny's because it was size like zero or one. And it would always be like, what is this doing here? I got to bring this back to Montecito. This was, this is definitely Johnny's. I always know when you're in residence because there's also a lot of shoes scattered. Shoes scattered. And by the way,
I don't think Matthew Lowe gets enough credit for his outfits. Matthew stayed very consistent through the years. He's kind of the Adam Sandler of our family and friends. He's got the staples down.
It's really true. He is. He found his look. It works great. He doesn't, he doesn't deviate at all. No, no. He's like Steve jobs. Where's the same, like, you know, outfit that the cargo shorts and the, the, the, the Oakley glasses. And, you know, they all make comebacks and he'll be, he'll be the one that's sitting there saying, told you guys, he's told you as we speak, he's, he took, he's took some time off of, of work and is,
driven six and a half hours on dirt roads down into Mexico to go fishing on a panga with a bunch of dudes. It's like the no, no, no phone reception, no nothing really super gnarly. I just sent him a video like an hour ago of a shark demolishing a seal on right off of Catalina Island. These fishermen caught a video and I sent it to Matthew because I was like, this is, this is right up your alley.
That's that is totally up his alley. So where by the way, where are you right now? Are you still in can? Yeah, I'm in can. OK, is this your first can? It is. All right. It is my first. Let's talk. Let's talk. OK, first of all, here's my favorite can thing that I'm glad is finally getting a little press.
is the, this, everything in the world has gone to ridiculous levels, right? I just, it doesn't matter what you're talking about, any subject, where you come from, everything on its face seems absurd. And this notion of, if I have to see another headline about the, how long the standing ovation, it's so dumb. It's so dumb. I saw one day that was, that was like,
20 minutes, I think. And it said while the tweet happened, it said that it was still people were still standing.
So I was just like, I mean, can you imagine 20 minutes just standing in? I'm so I'm so curious to be in one of those theaters where it's just like it just keeps going. I don't know who's the person that sits down first or who's time or who's timing it. Are we following? Yeah. Is there? Well, there clearly is a person with an actual stopwatch because my favorite is that the publicity people can't wait to say.
So-and-so indie director got a six and one half second minute standing ovation. Such and such movie got a 11.2 stand. It's like so dumb. It's it's. But yet, if I had a movie there, I would be I'd be standing up until I might stand up for an hour. I might just keep clapping. How long do you think Arnold would stand for anybody?
He would be the first person. I don't know if he would stay. He'd probably just wave around. I don't know. He would think it was for him. Yeah, yeah. Let's face it. It's exactly right. He was like, they saw me and they were very happy and everybody was doing their thing and clapping and I left. He must have, I should ask him to see what's the longest round of applause he's gotten. He must have a timer somewhere. Not for Cannes, just in general.
This is the time of year where you just want to donate all your old clothes and revamp your wardrobe, right? Spring cleaning means out with the old and in with the new. And that's where Macy's comes in. Yep.
Spring fashion has officially landed at Macy's, and they've got the perfect items for a serious wardrobe upgrade. Macy's knows what's hot this season, like lightweight knits that make you look effortlessly cool, matched sets that make you look as polished as a celebrity's photo filters, woven skirts, mini dresses, and red carpet-ready maxi dresses. Macy's has got all the new arrivals,
The latest colors, your favorite brands, and brands waiting to be your favorite brand. And just when you think it couldn't get any better, bam, they've got timeless jewelry, classic denim, and workwear that says, I'm here to work and look awesome doing it.
Find Macy's Spring Styles in linen, crochet, cotton gauze, all the perfect fabrics for when the heat kicks in and you still want to look like a million bucks. So what are you waiting for? Shop now at macys.com or in stores.
Summertime's here. The sun is shining. You need powerful sun protection that feels light on your skin. Meet Neutrogena Ultra Sheer Sunscreen. This is SPF 70 lotion. It absorbs fast with smooth, dry-touch finish, so you'll forget that you're even wearing it. It blocks 97% of burning UV rays and is water-resistant for
for up to 80 minutes. Lightweight, effective, and perfect for sunny days. It is just what your summer needs. Neutrogena Ultra Sheer. Sunscreen you can't feel. Shop now at Target. This is an ad for Active Cash Credit Card from Wells Fargo. That's a mouthful, but that's because it packs a lot in. Earn unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases with it, big or small. So whether it's buying tickets to
to the game with your mom or grabbing a coffee with your dog. Earn unlimited 2% cash rewards on purchases you've made with it. Say it with me. The Active Cash Credit Card from Wells Fargo. Learn more at wellsfargo.com forward slash active cash. Terms apply. ♪
I got to tell you, it's like I've seen I've been really lucky when I've been to Cannes. I've I've seen great movies like particularly good movies. I saw Sex, Lies and Videotape, which won the Palme d'Or that year.
And, and, and, and like, it is like that. They, they, they should still be clapping for that movie. They should be clapping for a decade. I get it. But you can't tell me all these headlines, every single movie, most of which you never hear about again, have their, it's so, it's so dumb. But, um, I saw tree of life there. The Terrence Malick movie. That was great. Yeah. That was a really good one. Um, the red carpet, um,
By the way, we are definitely doing this. I'm going to read. This is the one percent podcast. I'm just saying because we're talking bougie bougie shit here. We're talking about Met Gala. We are. I don't care. Tell with it. The it's the best red carpet in the world. Do you want to know why? Do you? I've I've broken it down because I've been like, why is this so spectacular?
Um, first of all, like I said, everything in the world has been debased. So red carpets now, I mean, there's, there, there, there are red carpets at our mitzvahs now. So there are, there's, there's red carpet doesn't mean anything. Um, and, but there it still does cause it's double wide. So the width of it, every picture you see, every picture you see has red behind it because it's double wide.
There are photographers on both sides. So you get the famous shot of you with people taking your picture behind you. And there's no interviews.
So nobody is like, you're not like standing next to Danny DeVito waiting for him to finish talking. So, you know, whatever. You're just walking and do anything. And they only let one person. The staircase? Well, I'm getting to that. I'm building to the big finish. Then they only let one person on the carpet at the same time. And so there's like a New York traffic controller going, okay, and go. And they're playing music. You have a theme.
The last time I was there was Under Pressure by Queen, which is so sick. Oh, that's a great entrance song. Great. It's like a walk-up song in Dodgers. Yes, yes. And then, of course, which you immediately knew, it ends with the ascension up the staircase. And then you get, I saw Brad Pitt work that. I saw Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie work that red carpet. I started weeping. I wept. It was...
First of all, well, they get the you get the staircase going up and then they call your name and you get that classic turning around the turn. Oh, the turn. Yeah. Just the over your shoulder. Yeah. The Redford. Yeah. Redford. Redford insisted on most of his cover, his closest being over his shoulder slightly. They call it the Redford. Now, here's. So it's the best. That's the turn you want. The turn you don't want. I can teach you this as a young actor is.
When you're and you should be aware of this. When you do a scene and you're exiting a door and you turn and you and you smile, just know this, that it's very likely you just did your in memoriam close up. Patrick Schwarzenegger passed away at the age of 97 today. And they're going to use that shot of you turning in the door, smiling, looking like, oh, I'm just I'm just stepping off into heaven now. So that's that's that's what enters my mind.
Okay, good. Well, thank you for telling me that. Look at how sad you just got.
I just, I thought about it. I was like, I was trying to think if I, if I had done any scenes where I'm going through the door like that. Cause, cause, cause you're young. So they're going to, they'll start with you. God, remember? Oh yes. Remember? And then, and then they'll, you'll do that turn and then they'll do one of you all craggity and towards the end when, when you're getting your phony baloney lifetime Oscar that they didn't give you when you deserved it. Getting all pruned up and yeah. Pruney mooney.
Well, far, far away, hopefully. Far, far away. What? What? OK, so you've walked the closet. You've done that. I'm I've walked. I've walked it. I've done my work that I came for. And now I'm just here for an extra three days and hanging out. When I was with holding court, I was with Catherine last night.
And and Chris is Catherine Schwarzenegger and Chris Pratt are married and they're obviously longtime family friends. And we had our little we had dinner last night and it was Lila's third birthday.
Eloise, yeah, it was. Yeah, I FaceTimed her for yesterday. Oh, it was Eloise's. Sorry, it was Eloise's. Yeah. So, and we were, I walked in with my document about you to prep for my interview, and we went through it as a family, and we're like, they were very insistent that I give you tons of shit about the man purse, but we dispensed with that right away. That was definitely...
It was the way we started. It was great. It was the way we started. Okay, let's talk. Let's talk about, oh, look, you're drinking. See, I love, by the way, that smoothies became such a thing in White Lotus. Did Mike White know what a thing that is in your life, in history, when he cast you? I don't think so. I'm a protein smoothie connoisseur. I'm a fanatic. No, fanatic.
It's almost protein smoothie o'clock. I'm going to get one right now. But no, he didn't know it. And he's obsessed with them too. He drinks them all the time. Mike has his diet and his kind of like food routine dialed in to like every to the top. No way. What is it? I'm obsessed with people's food health routines. So Mike White is in incredible shape.
He's like, before, let's just say call time is 6 a.m., crew call is 6 a.m. or something, and I was working first up that morning. I'd go to the gym maybe at like 4-ish. There was one person that was at the gym, and it was Mike White. Jesus. He worked out every day, and he's got
Now he's on his third season, about to go do the fourth season. He's got the perks that he deserves. He's got the chef and he's got the trainers and he's got everything, but he's got it all dialed in. He's got all of his lunchbox with the protein shakes. He's vegan, but he's got all these different meals and hits his protein goals and he checks his HRV and his amount of sleep and his heart rate and all these different things. Every day he'll come up to me and he'd be like, what's your HRV?
What's your heart rate today? What's your, how many hours of sleep? He's like, I'm, I'm this age, but today it says that I've got the heart rate of a 21 year old. I've got the bone density of this. I've got the, you know, he's got it all figured out. I've got the bone. That's a great one. I, that's one I haven't ever thought of. I've got the bone density. Yeah. Yeah. I got the bone density. I got the protein. He's always like, what's your protein delivery system? What's your protein delivery system? But he's, uh, yeah, he loves all of that stuff.
Well, listen, he was in Survivor, right? Yeah. Survivor, Amazing Grace and all that stuff. Yeah. That's so insane. I know. I have a practical question. The resort you guys shot at, is it shut down to the public while you're there or no? Yeah. The first two months, the whole place was shut down.
And then we went and we traveled around. So actually, the first season, they shot White Lotus in like seven weeks. And it was all in one location because they had to do it because of COVID. That was how Mike kind of pitched the idea. We can make a show that's all centered at one location. We don't need to travel. We can do a bubble. And that's when HBO kind of bought into it. And then the second season, they left the hotel and some scenes took place elsewhere. And I think they filmed for three months or so.
And then our season took place over seven months. The first two months were all at the Four Seasons in Koh Samui, which they completely rented out. And then we went and traveled around. We went to Phuket and did at another hotel for the spa. We went out onto the yacht that we filmed on. We shot on there for a couple of weeks. We shot in different parts of Phuket for other events.
kind of in the city and kind of some of the local spots. And then we went to Bangkok for the last month and we shot at the hotel there in Bangkok. And then we did studio work then. So we were all, all over, but the, the, the hotel being rented out, like you, you would think that it's like amazing, but it's really quite weird when you have a day off from filming and you go down to the pool or you go down to the, the bar or the beach club, whatever. And there's not a person there.
You know, it's just like it's it's dead empty unless you bring some of the other tasks or something. Yeah, I was going to say then it makes it a camp. I I shot once at a really remote resort. And you're right. It's it's like kind of spooky, but it's also bonds you guys in a great way. Because if, you know, the people are working or doing their thing and then people are off or just figure out a way to spend time, you know, with their with their day. Who who is your who is your like homies?
I became extremely close with the people in my family. So Jason Isaacs, who you already interviewed, and then Sam Navola played my brother, Sarah Catherine played my sister, Parker Posey, who I had worked with on The Staircase before. So I became really close with them because, I mean, from the time you auditioned and everything, and then we actually booked the roles,
to then flying out to Thailand was just like a couple weeks later. So we didn't really, and Mike's not a big like prep guy, you know, there was no like table read, there was no like, you know, let's go and prepare and let's do rehearsals and let's do all the, you know, he doesn't really do that, which I think is part of the fun and how he's just kind of captures things in the moment. But our family decided to do Zooms for the weeks before we got actually out there because we needed to hear each other's accents.
I had no idea what Jason Isaacs was going to sound like from he's a British guy to this Southern North Carolina accent. Same with Parker Posey. I didn't know what she was going to do. And they wanted a distinction. They wanted the parents to have this hardcore accent, but then the kids to have a very minor accent. And so that was a trip to hear it for the first time. I remember hearing Parker's and Jason's, and I was just like, oh my God.
I knew that Parker's was going to be like a thing instantly become a thing. Yeah. Like it was just, everyone was, you know, quoting her and, and, and, and stuff on set. But yeah, I got really close with my family and so much. So like Mike white came up to me like week three and he was like, Hey, do you want to have, what are you doing tonight? You want to get dinner? And I was like, Oh, I'm having dinner with like my, you know, my family. And he was like, what the, what the fuck's wrong with you guys? Why are you, why are you guys thinking you don't have to be method.
I don't need to hang out as a family all the time. Just, just chill. Like it's not that serious. And I was like, I know, but like, we're trying to get like, we're trying to all hang out and get this, the vibe and try to build these relationships. And he was like, whatever, whatever you guys take so serious. It was really funny. That's, that's amazing. So you're telling me the minute you heard Parker do her now, it's arguably, uh,
one of the most famous accents ever, for sure. I mean, name one that's gotten more... Because people can get famous for bad accents, but this is a great accent, and it's just, I mean, tsunami. Tsunami, I know. And it's like... I mean, people were really like, you know, they were really talking about it the first weeks, and like, oh my God, it's so over the top, whatever. And then you saw videos coming out of people
which was my favorite. People had other people in, in, um, that have a similar accent from Durham read off the scripts that she had. And they sounded like just her align. It was just like, it just sounded dead, dead on. Well, you, you know, Matthew went to Duke, which is in Durham. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so we would, we would go and visit him and everybody was like, say you know me. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Now everybody's doing it. I have so many people that come up to me that went to Duke. Like that's like the, the, the first people that come up to me are people that are Duke and they just come up and they, they say some line in the accent or whatever. It's, it's really, really funny. And also I just love that whenever your dad is wearing the Duke shirt, he's doing something really nasty. Like,
he's plotting killing you guys or what he always has the Duke shirt on. And I mean, I think it's sort of apocryphal that the Duke people were pissed, but I can't imagine that they did that. It's great. It's great advertising. It's great. It's makes it's I totally agree. And they it was like the perfect meme for March Madness, too. Oh, I just knew that it was going to like it was like all over Twitter of Jason with the gun to his head in the Duke shirt when Duke lost. You know, it was just like everywhere.
It was great. It's so good. It's so genius. So you have a big date coming up. By the way, you should know I booked my house for the big wedding. There you go. Chomp Doodles, getting married. Patrick has, you guys listening, Patrick is the best with nicknames. And Abby Champion is Chomp Chomp Doodle. Chompadom, Chomp Chomp Chomp. I think you came up with Chomp.
Did I? I know I had a hand in it. I think you came up with Chompadoodle or Chompadoozers or one of those that you came up with. You're really good at nicknames too. Cinnamon Bear for your brother Christopher is, I think, one of my all-time favorite ones. Cinnamon Liquid just came, by the way. Oh, look at that protein. What are we rocking? What do we got in there? Did you clean the blender? Got to clean that blender. Yeah.
That is good. Refuel. Got to clean that blender. You got some mosh bars in there broken up. You got the whole, you got the whole thing, the whole thing going. Um, so you, that you got the big wedding coming up in the late summer before that. What, what are your plans in the summer? Um, you know what? It's been like,
Every time that I thought that I was going to be done promoting this show or being done with like, like this universe, it just has continued. I feel like I've been on a two and a half or three month world tour for the show, which has been incredible. It's been amazing. Um,
But I remember when the show came out, I was like, yeah, I'm going to do like a week of press or whatever. And then it just like continued. And I think because it's one of those shows that comes out over like eight weeks and it just continues to build momentum. And then the HBO team was like, oh, next week they want you to go to Europe. And I'm like, OK. And then I come back. Oh, next next week they want you to go back to Asia and go to Bangkok and do so. OK, sure. Oh, next week they want you to go to Australia. I'm like, wow, really? Yeah.
you know, next week they want you to go to Hawaii where it was originally filmed. Wow. Next week they want you to go to like the amount of different countries and different places that I've gone for, for, you know, press and, and a lot of the other casts too. It was just like, uh, it's been so surreal and, um, such a wild experience. So I would say that I hopefully I'm going to come back this next week and have some downtime in July or June, but,
But then I know that the FYC starts, that we're going to do stuff and all the different Emmy stuff and whatever. So I don't know where the rest of my summer is kind of going. And then hopefully get back on
on set this August right before we get married, which will be another exciting part. I love how busy you are. I love seeing your success. You're so good. And I know I texted you like right away. You're you're so good in it. You found like a whole new gear in this. Do you did you feel like that? I mean, I know that as you know, I started young, too, and I
I can remember a couple times where I discovered a new gear that I had then had forever. And then you're kind of in that gear for a while. And then you discover, if you're lucky, another gear. And I think you just keep breaking through boundaries or finding a new way to do things. It feels to me like you did on this one in a way. Does that make you feel that way?
I feel it a hundred percent. Like, I think that there's kind of three things that come to mind when, when you kind of talk about this, which is like one, you continue to grow and you get better. You know, I started acting, you know, very young. You started even younger and became a star way younger than, than I was. But, you know, getting in class, I mean, I'm still in class for, you know, every week and for the past,
you know, whatever, 12 years in the same theater school and, and, and, and, um, studio. And I think you, you just continue to learn from that and doing theater and doing plays. You continue to learn by doing other projects and working with different people. Um, but I think that when I think about your career, you had this too. I think the more I get to do it and the, the, it's really comes down to me getting to work with amazing filmmakers, like directors, um,
And working with someone like Mike White, they first off build such amazing scripts and build such amazing characters. But the process of working with someone like that, that's a writer and a director and comes from an acting background, I really think that it's helpful for an actor to get a specific performance out.
Um, so I think that's one of the things. And then lastly, it's the fact that it's an ensemble. I mean, I've been really lucky to work with amazing actors. You know, I really started to feel a change when I was on the staircase and I was working opposite Colin Firth and, um,
I mean, that was Colin Firth. It was Julia Pinoche. It was Toni Collette. It was Michael Subar. It was Sophie Turner, Dane DeHaan. Like everybody on that was Emmy and Oscar winning actors, except for me. And it was like this amazing, just like a masterclass of getting to work and learn from these actors. And I think it's kind of like tennis, you know, where you, you, you, when you play someone that's better than you,
you kind of learn and you grow and you have to kind of go up to that level. So I think, um, without a doubt, I, I, I felt like I was in a new gear or shifted into a new, um, yeah, level on this project. Did you ever, uh, have a, a moment you talk about working with, with on staircase with people who were at a level that is unbelievable. They're all masters. Um,
Where you're in a scene with somebody like that and you can't help yourself. Oh, you almost get taken out of it by what they're doing in the scene. Oh, yeah. Where you're like, you're like, oh, what the, oh, fucking, whoa, whoa, whoa. You ever have one of those? Two times I can think of it right off the top of my head.
One time was the opening scene of The Staircase when I was acting with Colin Firth, and it's a one-er. The first 10 minutes is a one-er of me being drunk in the car, getting out. There's police everywhere. I run into the house, and I find our mother dead at the bottom of the stairs. And I go, and I'm looking for my dad, and I find my dad, and he's weeping in the chair with blood all over his hands.
And I remember we didn't rehearse it at all. And I remember just going in, running in and going up to call and going and looking into his eyes. And Colin was just like the most professional in character, you know, just almost to the point where I was like, holy fuck, this is, this is intense. This is nuts. Like it was like a moment of like kind of realization that you felt like you were really in it. And it was like, I, it was kind of like a moment to myself of like,
Don't blow this, you know, like just it was like so that was one. And then the other time was on set with Parker and I we were mid scene. We were eating and I spit my water out everywhere because she made me laugh so much with because she would just improv.
dialogue on the whim. And it just totally took me out of it. She would just say things that I just, I was drinking water and we were at a table and she said something and I just spit out. And yeah, I mean, I think there's multiple occasions, but when you work with a, I don't know, I mean, you've done it with so many amazing comedic people. I feel like it just, it's hard to keep it together when you're working with someone like that. And those are always the things that
If you're lucky, that's what you take away from that. Like it will always be your your thing. Like White Lotus is is a thing that belongs to everybody now. Everybody has ownership in it. And but like and it becomes actually something different than what you did. Coppola was the first one that taught me this when I was talking about the Godfather with him.
And I was telling him how much I love the Godfather. He goes, yeah, you know, the Godfather's become this thing and everybody, you know, it's, but for me, now the Godfather feels like, you know, that lamp, you know, it exists. People know it. But, you know, for me, it was the making of it. So it's like those making of stories are so good. I just, and then, you know, and working with the greats, you know, like I can remember on Wayne's World, Dana Carvey,
I had a scene where he was, he had a robot hand. He was building, he was trying to smash it with the hammer and it was just he and I, and, and he was just trying to make me laugh in the scene. And I remember my palms running, sweat running out of my palms, trying not to laugh. And, um, that's the, so like Wayne's world is whatever, but like for me, that's what it is. You remember those working with great people and, and, and yeah, I mean, there's,
There's so many examples that I have. And I mean, it's, yeah, I'm so curious what it was like to work with. I remember you telling me a little bit about like on Outsiders or something, you know, with how different directors have worked with you. And some of them have just been like,
go act you know don't they don't they don't mess with your performance they don't come and tell you different things versus you know sometimes you work today and people are you know the lighting guy the cinematographer comes you need to hit these certain marks you need to get the light on you here when the camera guy comes and says ah you got to go over this way a little bit more and then the director needs it's a really interesting um experience to work with just different types of
of directors but i remember you saying that i think about was it was it coppola or who was it that that kind of just let you well it's what it was coppola who literally let us do it was great we would explore it it was very improvisational and like you would rehearse and rehearse and do versions and try different things and then and only then would there be a discussion about where the camera would go
And I remember because that was the era of the young filmmaker auteur that that was everybody. Then, of course, all the young filmmakers wanted to be like those guys. And so for the first I don't know how many movies I did when I came on to a set, I expected and it was done that we the actors would get the set with the director and we'd figure it out together. And then I remember one day.
Like the memo went out throughout Hollywood and you go on the set
And good morning. Good morning. How's everybody? Good. You have a good night. Yeah, that's great. OK, so I was thinking, Patrick, you're going to be seated here. And and OK, I was thinking you guys would like you're coming in the door. So you guys are really happy because I'd love you guys to get seated in this configuration around the middle of scene. And then and then at some point, maybe there's a cross over to the refrigerator. I remember going, are you fucking kidding me?
Are you fucking kidding me? And now that's how everything is done. Everything. I haven't been on a set in years where it didn't begin that way. I think like for me, Lotus was like, it was like a perfect blend of the two because I think Mike is the writer and the director and the showrunner and the creator that he has the liberty of like whatever he wants goes.
He doesn't have someone else really telling him. So he definitely has an idea in his head of what he's wanting and the kind of performance he's looking for. But he also just...
lets you do what you want with the character. Like he really allows you to breathe into it and just bring different ideas or try different takes where you're just doing something totally different or certain physicalities or certain antics or certain this thing or that thing. I mean, there's some of the best parts of this show are things that he kind of
Comes up to you and gives you what he's looking for, but then just lets you go and create the scene. And it's really fun to work with someone like that. It's very liberating of just having a director and a creator and a collaborator that's like that. Well, the more experienced, the better and more confident the directors are, the less they say to you.
I mean, that's just the way it goes. Right. I mean, you know, Steven Spielberg isn't giving direction to anybody. He's cast who he wants.
He knows what to do. You know what I mean? Whether you're Steven Soderbergh, whoever it is, it's the insecure directors that feel like they have to earn their place on the set. Right. Which is probably why casting is such an important part for this show and for him and the process that they go through to find the right person because they don't want to be doing all that when they're on set. No. No, it's like...
casting, you know, casting is the most important thing in the world. It's the most important thing for the movies. And it's the most important thing in your personal life. You've got to cast your life. Like, it's like, you know, people always say, how did you and Cheryl get together and be married for so many years? It was casting. It's like we picked each other. We cast each other. She cast me as her husband. I cast her as the wife. And the show's been running ever since.
Yeah, that's a great way to think of that. Right? I mean, for sure. This is the time of year where you just want to donate all your old clothes and revamp your wardrobe, right? Spring cleaning means out with the old and in with the new. And that's where Macy's comes in. Yep.
Spring fashion has officially landed at Macy's, and they've got the perfect items for a serious wardrobe upgrade. Macy's knows what's hot this season, like lightweight knits that make you look effortlessly cool, matched sets that make you look as polished as a celebrity's photo filters, woven skirts, mini dresses, and red carpet-ready maxi dresses. Macy's has got all the new arrivals,
The latest colors, your favorite brands, and brands waiting to be your favorite brand. And just when you think it couldn't get any better, bam, they've got timeless jewelry, classic denim, and workwear that says, I'm here to work and look awesome doing it.
Find Macy's Spring Styles in linen, crochet, cotton gauze, all the perfect fabrics for when the heat kicks in and you still want to look like a million bucks. So what are you waiting for? Shop now at macys.com or in stores. What you listen to on your run, on your road trip, your kid's graduation song, their wedding dance.
Your retirement party. The soundtrack of your life changes as your life does. Just like a financial plan from Northwestern Mutual. It's a better way to money. Our financial advisors get to know you better. They meet you where you are and help you get where you want to go. Let's get started at NM.com. The Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
All set for your flight? Yep. I've got everything I need. Eye mask, neck pillow, T-Mobile, headphones. Wait, T-Mobile? You bet. Free in-flight Wi-Fi. 15% off all Hilton brands. I never go anywhere without T-Mobile. Same goes for my water bottle, chewing gum, nail clippers. Okay, I'm going to leave you to it. Find out how you can experience travel better at T-Mobile.com slash travel. ♪
Qualifying plan required. Wi-Fi were available on select U.S. airlines. Deposit and Hilton honors membership required for 15% discount terms and conditions apply. Does it ever feel like you're a marketing professional just speaking into the void? Well, with LinkedIn ads, you can know you're reaching the right decision makers. You can even target buyers by job title, industry, company, seniority, skills, etc.
Wait, did I say job title yet? Get started today and see how you can avoid the void and reach the right buyers with LinkedIn ads. We'll even give you a $100 credit on your next campaign. Get started at linkedin.com slash results. Terms and conditions apply.
When do I see you next? When are you coming up to SB? We're moving into the new house right now, so you've got to get up here and see it. I know. I've heard Johnny told me about it, I think, this last week. We have a new dog. I'm hoping to come up. We've got a new dog. What? Yeah, we've got a new dog. You guys have a new dog every week. I mean, you have more dogs than Arnold has pets at this point. I know. I love that Arnold has the mini horse and the pig. It's so cheap. It makes me want to do that.
It's like he's totally embraced this new kind of act of life. It's just like he's such a Dr. Dolittle meets just kind of like this midlife crisis, but happiness and calmer side of life. It's really a funny...
I mean, you've seen it, but this picture of him holding court at his dinner table with a cigar in his mouth and the miniature donkey behind him on the right side and the miniature pony on the left side and the pig right below his feet eating and then the little chihuahua on his lap and then the massive 180-pound Malmew husky over there next to the horse and then the other...
what's it called? Dog with 150 pounds. I mean, it's just like they have all of them surround Arnold and he has certain meals. You know, he's got the oatmeal cookies, the homemade oatmeal cookies that are good for the horses. He's got the special meals for the dog. He's got the soup that the pig loves. He's got... It's just like it's out of a movie. It really is. Well, it is. Apparently...
Brian, our friend Brian Grazer has a movie he's developing about Arnold and the animals. And I keep every time I see Brian, I've had Brian on the show. I keep saying what's going on with the Arnold animal movie, because honestly, I don't know anything I'd rather see than a movie about Arnold and his animals. I really don't. I am so down to see that.
I saw him literally yesterday and he brought it up. I'm hoping that it happens. Oh my God. Oh, it's so good. But I want Arnold to wear his like compression socks. Yeah. Did right. And it's like, there's nothing better than the compression socks. Why did, when did Arnold start dressing like Adam Sandler? When did that happen? I, I,
but by the way his outfits are he's his his assistant sent me a photo yesterday i've got to pull this up because i make fun of arnold more than anyone for the outfits he wears the best and he's he was shooting an interview magazine i think interview magazine and um it's for his new show foobar that comes out in like a week or two and the assistant was like
We're on set. Your dad didn't bring any wardrobe. So they're shooting him how he's dressed. What do you think he's in? And I was like, I just I bet you he has a cigar and he's got a T-shirt of himself on. And he sent the photo and it was literally a photo of himself with the shirt of himself with a with a photo of himself in the background. I was just like, it doesn't get any any better.
Your wardrobe is compression socks and Arnold shirts. I mean, there's no one I love more for living his best life than your dad.
I love it. I mean, you walk into the South, it's statues of himself, pictures of himself. It's like, because look, if you're not going to love yourself, who else is going to love you? Is the way I look at it. I mean, come on. I agree. I mean, it's maybe a little over the top, but it's, you know, he's one of a kind. It's really amazing. And the cigar in the jacuzzi, I mean, you're a great jacuzzi meister, I have to say. If there was Olympics for jacuzziing,
you would represent America? I would. I would be on the platform. I would get a medal for sure. The all-America jacuzzi team? Yeah. Both of us would be. We'd be a pretty good dynamic duo. Batman and Robin type. We would do well. Okay, here's the all-America jacuzzi team. Me, you, Arnold. Christopher, your brother. C1 is, yes, he's a great jacuzzi. And John Owen as an alternate.
Yes. Johnny, the heat gets to Johnny quickly. Yeah. He's a little, everything gets to Johnny quickly. Yes. That's true. He's a good, he's good. He's a hothouse flower. Yeah. He's a good alternate choice. Yeah. Good alternate. All right. Well, love you. Enjoy the rest of con. What, what's on the agenda for today? What do you got? Well, I know it's sort of the evening there, but what, what's cooking in the next couple of days? Yeah.
You going anywhere good? I'm just going to get some dinner and go to sleep tonight. But yeah, I'm just here for another two days. I'm taking Abby to F1 this weekend. Oh, Jono and FaceTime. FaceTime. Here he is. Finally. Hey, it's connecting. Are you there? Can you hear me? He's trying to get us. Let me see if I can get him.
I know his services. There he is. Hey, Johnny. I like the record to show that I'm on a golf course. And I admit that Thursday morning, but it's actually on a yacht can. So at the end of the day, drinking, drinking a smoothie with your dad. No, I already said this is the 1% interview. I already, I already, I said, we're going to talk about red carpets and can't film festivals. It's just is what it is. Watch this shot. All right.
Let's see how the golf swing looks here. Oh, I know what hole he's on here. Little par three. John Owen Lowe is up on the tee. Looks like he has an eight iron in his hand. There's a waggle. He comes through the ball. I don't know. That sounded crispy. Oh, crispy.
All right. Well, I'll come back after. Well played. All right. All right, man. All right, buddy. Let's jacuzzi soon. All right. Love you. Thanks for taking the time. It was great. You're fantastic. See you soon, brother. Love you. All right. See you, man. I want Patrick's life. Listen, I didn't get cheated. I went down swinging. I had a really good young life. I'm not actually trading it for anything. But if I was...
I think it might be for Patrick. But nobody deserves it more. Nobody works harder. That kid will bust his ass, by the way. Just FYI. We didn't really get into it, but nobody works harder. And I'm so glad that he's having this moment. All right. Anyway, I will see you all next week on Literally. Thank you so much for listening, as always. Big hugs and kisses to all. Bye-bye.
You've been listening to Literally with Rob Lowe, produced by me, Sean Doherty, with help from associate producer Sarah Begar and research by Alyssa Grau. Engineering and mixing by Joanna Samuel. Our executive producers are Rob Lowe for Low Profile, Nick Liao, Adam Sachs, and Jeff Ross for Team Coco, and Colin Anderson for Stitcher. Booking by Deirdre Dodd. Music by Devin Bryant.
Special thanks to Hidden City Studios. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next time on Literally. Discovering a better way to money? That's everyone's jam. No matter what goals you've got queued up, a Northwestern Mutual advisor can help uncover opportunities that others might overlook. Let's get started at NM.com, the Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
All set for your flight? Yep. I've got everything I need. Eye mask, neck pillow, T-Mobile, headphones. Wait, T-Mobile? You bet. Free in-flight Wi-Fi. 15% off all Hilton brands. I never go anywhere without T-Mobile. Same goes for my water bottle, chewing gum, nail clippers. Okay, I'm going to leave you to it. Find out how you can experience travel better at T-Mobile.com slash travel.
Qualifying plan required. Wi-Fi were available on select U.S. airlines. Deposit and Hilton Honors membership required for 15% discount terms and conditions apply.