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S8EP89 ICU醫師陳志金:從業十年走到人生最低潮,每天都想著離職,正向心理學讓我開始轉念

2025/1/3
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馬力歐陪你喝一杯

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馬利歐:本集訪談陳志金醫師(阿金醫師),探討其從馬來西亞到台灣行醫的經歷,以及在ICU工作中遇到的挑戰與轉變,包括SARS和COVID-19疫情的影響、正向心理學的應用、醫病溝通的重要性、團隊合作的建立等。 阿金醫師分享了其在ICU工作中見證許多生死離別的經驗,以及2014年曾經歷人生最低潮,每天都想離職的感受。他提到,正向心理學的學習幫助他轉念,並將其應用於醫療現場,改善醫護人員與病患家屬的關係。 此外,阿金醫師也分享了他如何教導醫護人員同理心,以及如何避免同理心被誤解為情緒勒索。他強調,有效的醫病溝通和團隊合作,可以降低醫療糾紛的發生,並提升醫療團隊的效率和成就感。 最後,阿金醫師也預告了其第四本書的出版計畫,是一本以繪本形式呈現,描述他和父親互動的故事。 陳志金:我從馬來西亞獨立中學畢業後,因緣際會來到台灣就讀台大醫學系,原本打算畢業後回馬來西亞,但後來在台灣結婚生根。在ICU工作期間,我見證了許多生離死別,也經歷了SARS和COVID-19疫情的衝擊。2014年,我曾陷入人生最低潮,每天都想離職。 在美國杜克大學學習正向心理學後,我開始轉變想法,將正向心理學的觀念應用於醫療現場。我學習把握當下,並以不同的角度看待事情,不再將病人的死亡視為自己的失敗。我開始著重於『救病人,也要救家屬』,並透過有效的溝通技巧,協助家屬走過失去親人的悲痛。 在教學同理心的過程中,我避免直接使用『同理心』這個詞彙,因為它在醫療現場容易被誤解為情緒勒索。我會透過角色扮演等方式,讓醫護人員學習換位思考,理解家屬的需求與感受。 我出版了三本書《ICU重症醫療現場1、2、3》,分享我的工作經驗和心得,並推動良好的醫病溝通。目前我正在籌備第四本書,是一本繪本,描述我和父親之間的故事。

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Why did Dr. Chen Zhijin decide to study medicine?

Dr. Chen Zhijin initially planned to study electrical engineering at Nanyang Technological University in Singapore to pursue a career that would allow him to earn money quickly. However, after his mother passed away when he was 17, he felt a deep sense of guilt and wanted to find out why she died before her scheduled surgery. This led him to switch to studying medicine at National Taiwan University, driven by a desire to understand and potentially avenge his mother's death.

What was the turning point that made Dr. Chen Zhijin stay in Taiwan?

Dr. Chen Zhijin originally intended to return to Malaysia after completing his medical studies in Taiwan. However, he met his future wife while working at a hospital in Taiwan, which led him to stay. Additionally, a policy change allowed him to train as a specialist in Taiwan, further solidifying his decision to remain in the country.

What inspired Dr. Chen Zhijin to write the post 'What will defeat us is humanity, not the virus' during the COVID-19 pandemic?

Dr. Chen Zhijin wrote the post during the early stages of the COVID-19 pandemic because he was concerned about the spread of misinformation and misunderstandings that could exacerbate medical issues. He wanted to emphasize that the real threat was not the virus itself, but the loss of trust and humanity among people. The post went viral, with over 3 million views and 30,000 shares, significantly increasing his social media following.

How did Dr. Chen Zhijin's experience during the SARS outbreak influence his approach to the COVID-19 pandemic?

During the SARS outbreak in 2003, Dr. Chen Zhijin witnessed the fear and mistrust among healthcare workers and the public. This experience made him realize the importance of maintaining trust and avoiding discrimination during health crises. When COVID-19 emerged, he used his platform to advocate for unity and accurate information, drawing parallels to the lessons learned from SARS.

What role did positive psychology play in Dr. Chen Zhijin's career and personal life?

Dr. Chen Zhijin attended a positive psychology course at Duke University in 2014, which helped him shift his mindset during a low point in his career. He learned to focus on the present, reframe challenges, and find meaning in his work, particularly in the ICU. This approach allowed him to not only save patients but also support their families, transforming his perspective on failure and success in medicine.

What is Dr. Chen Zhijin's approach to teaching empathy in the medical field?

Dr. Chen Zhijin avoids using the term 'empathy' directly because it is often associated with emotional manipulation in healthcare settings. Instead, he uses role-playing exercises to help medical staff understand the perspectives of patients and their families. By switching roles, they learn to communicate effectively and address the underlying needs of those they care for, fostering better relationships and reducing conflicts.

What is the main theme of Dr. Chen Zhijin's third book, 'ICU重症醫療現場3'?

The main theme of Dr. Chen Zhijin's third book is about becoming a more compassionate and empathetic person, regardless of one's role in the medical field. It focuses on the emotional and human aspects of working in the ICU, offering stories that resonate with both patients and their families, and encouraging readers to reflect on their own experiences and relationships.

What is Dr. Chen Zhijin's upcoming project after his three books on ICU重症醫療現場?

Dr. Chen Zhijin is working on a fourth book, which will be a picture book. This project is more personal, focusing on his relationship with his father and the emotional struggles they faced after his mother's death. The book will include elements from his childhood and early life in Taiwan, offering a different format and perspective compared to his previous works.

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本段介绍了阿金医师从马来西亚独立中学毕业后,如何因缘际会来到台湾就读台大医学院,以及他在求学过程中遇到的挑战和适应。
  • 在马来西亚独立中学的求学经历
  • 选择来台湾就读台大医学院的原因
  • 适应台湾学习环境的挑战与克服

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《馬力歐陪你喝一杯》節目製作第八年!喝一杯經典「人物故事訪談」繼續耕耘,陸續探索這世界有趣的靈魂們!

▲本集內容 陳志金,大家比較熟悉的名字可能是「阿金醫師」,目前是奇美醫學中心加護醫學部主治醫師。 他高中從馬來西亞的獨立中學畢業之後,因緣機會下到台灣就讀台大醫學系,原本學成就打算回去馬來西亞,但後來認識了現在的太太,從此在台灣落地生根。 他除了有治療專業之外,還有一個超過32萬人追蹤的粉絲團「Icu醫生陳志金」當初在COVID疫情開始之初,因為擔心誤解和不實的資訊,造成更多醫療上的問題,寫了一篇「會擊垮我們的是人性,不是病毒!」貼文,超過3萬次分享,單篇貼文觸及超過5百萬,不曉得你是否有看過? 在這幾年,除了持續在臉書上分享ICU的故事、剖析醫療時事之外,還有陸續出了三本書:《ICU重症醫療現場1、2、3》。希望透過故事傳遞更多醫療相關的知識,以及推動良好的醫病溝通,避免因為不瞭解、不信任而造成的對立與衝突。我們除了聊阿金醫師一開始為什麼會唸醫學,為什麼會留在台灣之外,也請他分享了很多為什麼他會有「救病人,也要救家屬」的理念。 阿金醫師說,因為在ICU看太多生離死別,2014年一度陷入到大低潮,後來去美國Duke大學上了正向心理學的課程,也開始將觀念慢慢帶入到醫療現場,自己的想法也開始做了轉變。 另外,我們常講說要有同理心,那好奇他如何「教」同理心,阿金醫師說,的確在醫療現場,醫護人員聽到「同理心」往往覺得是情緒勒索的代名詞,所以他一開始教,絕對不會講「同理心」三個字!非常有趣。 最後,阿金醫師也跟我們透露了已經有第四本書的計畫!風格跟這三本很不一樣,聽到最後,會有第四本書的彩蛋! ▲本集使用的音樂:Impressions (Acoustic) by Robert Alan DunnCreative Commons CC BY SA 3.0Robert-dunn-15 – Impressions-acoustic

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